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Greed[Exs]

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Every Step You Take View Post
What a waste of an already weak game. How can Anet ban players who had no other choice but to play the meta? Keep reading, dont start qqing already. Hear me out. Anet took MONTHS to fix a simple problem that other games fix upon release. A simple cheatshield or something would have stopped all .dll injections and stopped this huge incident. The funny part is the guy who created the bots claims he warned anet, he told them of how easy it was, he showed them examples and all he got was a "yah well take care of it thanks". Did they? No. So he decided i guess ill release it and see if Anet finally mans up to their short comings openly rather than avoiding all problems and admitting no fault. How is a player supposed to enjoy playing a game where bots run the economy and run the pvp? Are we supposed to just sit with our hands in our laps waiting for Anet to take action? They really think that banning these people for their short comings will solve anything? Havent we seen this before? *cough*mallyx glitch*cough*duping*cough*. They need to learn to control their servers and stop constantly creating glitches. The difference between then and now is that you could avoid and ignore those past events on the grounds of ohh its just the economy. But bots can farm nonstop for days. They can win Hall Of Heroes all night and all day without fear. They can perma rupt both monks in a gvg making it stupid easy to wipe any team. They LET bots overrun the game and they LOST most of their player base due to it. Blame the players and issue bans but they gotta know these people arent gonna be buying new account and for sure wont be buying guildwars2 accounts. They are just throwing away money now. Its a joke. ANet needs to fix this mistake before it costs them 75% of their prior player base.
Thanks for this, I'm glad I'm not the only one who fully understands the situation. It's like taking a town in which people are disappearing without a trace daily and then wiping out the majority of the remaining population. Botters or not, ANet are enablers and have let this go on since release. So what? Ban them now? GJHF

And when people are enabled, they do. So what happens to the rest of, prices flux, some things become excessively expensive, others rediculously cheap. So, others seeing that the community watchdog is letting this happen, and realizing that "Hey, if they can get away with it, why should I be on the backburner when I can be making money and doing this too? It's only fair right?"

I don't think most of you realize the severity of this issue. They have just lost a large portion of the player base. Yes, some will buy new accounts, but really, how many? The game is 5 years old and dying, although ANet has claimed they will not shut down the Guild Wars servers until the last player stops playing, but they have also made claims many times over that haven't been seen through. I just think everybody needs to look it things as they are and hey, I could be wrong, things could get better... but if there is one thing I've learned (especially in the case of this game), expect nothing, or better yet worse than nothing (because things are bound to go wrong) and hope for the best. Because when things fall through, what then? Nothing but frustration.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
I like the people comparing botting to murder. Reminds me of godwin's law.
True, especially because it has been said by a botter himself.

shadows of hob

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rocky (Dragon)Mountains

Mo/Me

It is funny, 1/2 of the botters just admit it and get over it easily and the other 1/2 are mad about it....

You used a bot! You deserve this ban! I seriously hope that they are not going to give people their acounts back if they complain enough....

Greed[Exs]

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Strife17 View Post
Incorrect I believe,

My friend used a bot 3-4 years ago. with 55hp monk troll farm and those minotaurs in elona reach mission.

His account wasn't banned.

He gave me his account few months ago and still isn't banned ( he only has proph, so I just use his account to get 5year presents)

I believe they only ban recent botters. like 1-2years max.

It would be irrationally to punish someone for their acts committed 4 years ago in a game. (in this context, not a murder orsomething lol)
And as such also irrational to punish someone for an act commited even 2 years ago. It was just an example, that's still a lot of time that can be put in over a 2 year period, even a 1 year period. I'm just saying things should have been dealt with to begin with by implementing better security measures instead of waiting 5 years to hit pretty well everyone that has ever botted with a baseball bat (or in this case, Dhuum's Scythe). Which by the way, may have been amusing, but why spend the extra time and waste the extra effort if they feel that this issue is so important.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greed[Exs] View Post
I don't think most of you realize the severity of this issue. They have just lost a large portion of the player base.
I know! The portion no one needs. Isn't it beautiful?

cormac ap dunn

cormac ap dunn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2007

Mystic Empires III [xMEx]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greed[Exs] View Post
I don't think most of you realize the severity of this issue. They have just lost a large portion of the player base... Because when things fall through, what then? Nothing but frustration.
I don't think you realize just what we "lost" sitting in LA this morning i was delighted to see absolutely NO spam bots selling gold/accounts/stupidity en mas. The best part of your post was all the frustration YOU obviously have, think i can speak for those of us who didn't cheat when i say we aren't frustrated in the least
cya in gam...oh too soon?

aspi

aspi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

eeew

N/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
1. I like this forum, and posted here even on times when I hadn't played GW for weeks.

2. I can play the game if I want, since my secondary account wasn't banned, so the joke's kind of on you. That said, I don't really feel like getting that account back to where my primary one was. It'd take far too long.
And you can't use a bot to get there
Ok you can but that would be an epic tail of stupidity.

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greed[Exs] View Post
And as such also irrational to punish someone for an act commited even 2 years ago.
O'rly? So, by your logic, the guy in the news a few years back who got away with murder for nearly 60 years (whom is now in his late 80s btw) should NOT have been imprisoned due to it "being so long ago" ? Puh-leeeeease. "How long ago it was" does NOT justify doing shit that is considered illegal (both IRL and in-game).


Grow up.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greed[Exs] View Post
And when people are enabled, they do.
No. People know the risks, and make their choices accordingly.

I knew there was bot software. I'm sure it would have been trivially easy to download it and use it. In other words, I was "enabled". But I chose not to.

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Originally Posted by Greed[Exs] View Post
"Hey, if they can get away with it, why should I be on the backburner when I can be making money and doing this too?
Um. Because they know its wrong, they know the risks, and they have the tiniest scrap of willpower?

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Originally Posted by Greed[Exs] View Post
They have just lost a large portion of the player base.
No. They lost a bunch of cheats and botters. Not players. And not a large proportion either.

St??phane Lo Presti

St??phane Lo Presti

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2010

Seattle

Please contact support if you have any question about your account being banned, posting information about your situation on a public GW forum is not going to help.

Regarding other questions about banning rules, we won't explain them in details for the reasons James Phinney explained in the ArenaNet blog post. It took us a long time to put in place the measures James describes. Remember that "If you have any doubts about whether or not something is allowed by the User Agreement, don’t do it. Don’t take that risk.".

Alesa

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

This is really good information for those looking to appeal about how NCSoft works as a heads up! So you can get some help. I know a lot are going to be frustrated when told that there is "no appeal" but you have to just persist. I wish our CM's would tell people about this, that the first standard response from NCSoft is that there's nothing you can do:

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Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
Just as a warning, this will be the first reply you will get if you email support regarding wrongful banning:

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Hello,

Your Guild Wars account has been closed for botting and/or the use of a third-party program. We want you to know that we take great care when analyzing accounts prior to termination.
For additional information on the User Agreement and Rules of Conduct, please visit the links below:

http://www.guildwars.com/support/leg...sofconduct.php
http://www.guildwars.com/support/leg...-agreement.php

Regards,
GM [Whoever gets the job of copypasting this reply here]
The Guild Wars Support Team
And should you pursue the matter further, this will be your second reply:

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Hello,

Due to the third-party program violations committed by this account, it will remain closed. We will not accept appeals in cases such as this because of the depth of the analysis prior to the block.

Please keep in mind that Guild Wars is a global game with hundreds of thousands of players. This means that standards of behavior must be upheld and we will take all necessary actions to protect the Guild Wars community and to assure that players are abiding by our User Agreement and Rules of Conduct.

Regards,
GM [Whoever gets the job of copypasting this reply here]
The Guild Wars Support Team
You may or may not get the following reply if you are still trying to discuss the issue with Support after the above two replies to your ticket:
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Hello,

Thank you for contacting the Guild Wars Support Team.

I am escalating your ticket to our Guild Wars senior staff members to assist you further. Once they have reviewed your question, one of them will contact you as soon as possible.

Regards,
GM [Whoever gets the job of copypasting this reply here]
The Guild Wars Support Team
This set of replies has been in use for years now, so anyone who hasn't had any experience with NCSoft Support should be aware that you will not get help until after being told you won't get any help. This is normal, so just grin and bear it. Yes, you will be told you do not have any chance to appeal even though you have likely been directed to Support to do just that by Gaile, Regina, or another ArenaNet employee. Again, this is completely normal, and is just how NCSoft Support works. Take it in stride and keep trying.

Greed[Exs]

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariovist Lynxkind View Post
Two things I forgot to add in my previous post:

1) Those saying GW should/should have implemented cheat shield/*insert bot prevention program here*: Ever stopped to think they had considered it, but it was incompatible with their software? There could have been issues that interfered with the client or the servers. Just an idea
That's a horrible excuse for not implementing security measures. If it doesn't work, make it work. If you can't make it work, get someone to make it work for you. If you have as some in this thread have claimed to be one of the most popular or most played games, then you have time to work things out, and if you don't, you MAKE time. And they sure as hell have the money and resources, I don't know the current numbers, but consider this. In late 2006 the had just achieved over 3 million sales (not accounts, campaigns), now figure each one at $20 to be fair (due to the fact that ANet doesn't recieve the full purchase amount, etc.). 3'000'000 x 20 =60'000'000...

$60 million dollars made before expenses back in 2006. And this was 4 years ago... So... they had more than enough to implement some form of anti-cheat system, but didn't so again I say... the situation was enabled by ANet.

Sir Cusfreak

Sir Cusfreak

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

In your backline

No Tags [NONE]

I guess the "petition to demand a response" was answered huh? LOOL hahahahahahaha
ah, it's a great day in Tyria.
I love ANET. Sorry i ever doubted.

Happy Birthday, guys.
<3

<praying for certain VERY SPECIFIC PEOPLE's bans - I hate so many of you guys, I really do. Cheater Scum.> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

now if only they would gtfo of here too, it'd be just like xmas!!!

ZainAhmed

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Earth

I need a guild

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05 View Post
O'rly? So, by your logic, the guy in the news a few years back who got away with murder for nearly 60 years (whom is now in his late 80s btw) should NOT have been imprisoned due to it "being so long ago" ? Puh-leeeeease. "How long ago it was" does NOT justify doing shit that is considered illegal (both IRL and in-game).


Grow up.
What a weirdo...actually takes gaming seriously as to compare botting to murder....XD

Voltis

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2010

My Guild Hall

Les Lions de la Terre de Feu

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stéphane Lo Presti View Post
Please contact support if you have any question about your account being banned, posting information about your situation on a public GW forum is not going to help.

Regarding other questions about banning rules, we won't explain them in details for the reasons James Phinney explained in the ArenaNet blog post. It took us a long time to put in place the measures James describes. Remember that "If you have any doubts about whether or not something is allowed by the User Agreement, don’t do it. Don’t take that risk.".
But, Stéphane, the problem is that support REFUSE to discuss and just answer by a pre-formated answer.

Mais, Stéphane, la problème est que le support REFUSE de discuter et répond seulement par une réponse pré-formatée.

EDIT :
I got the EXACTLY the same messages, but in french, than Alesa in post #539.

J'ai eu EXACTEMENT les même messages, mais en français, qu'Alesa au post #539.

Dervish Kid

Dervish Kid

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Florida

D/

gz ban more.. go to bergen, still a few in non american districts..

Gill Halendt

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greed[Exs] View Post
So... they had more than enough to implement some form of anti-cheat system, but didn't so again I say... the situation was enabled by ANet.
Looks like there is: they can detect botters and react to violations to the rules, dishing out suspensions.

Well... It's called free-will: the mere fact that nothing prevents you from installing bots or hacks (so, you're "enabled") doesn't make them legit or allowed. It's your choice to do it, it's your choice to pay the eventual consequences.

Assasin Foxx

Assasin Foxx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Farming Boxes At Morning [cDx]

W/

Used texmod and Multiclient now im botting, anyways was a fun 7k hours, will miss friends
But mctiggers can get unbanneD?

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greed[Exs] View Post
Thanks for this, I'm glad I'm not the only one who fully understands the situation. It's like taking a town in which people are disappearing without a trace daily and then wiping out the majority of the remaining population. Botters or not, ANet are enablers and have let this go on since release. So what? Ban them now? GJHF

And when people are enabled, they do. So what happens to the rest of, prices flux, some things become excessively expensive, others rediculously cheap. So, others seeing that the community watchdog is letting this happen, and realizing that "Hey, if they can get away with it, why should I be on the backburner when I can be making money and doing this too? It's only fair right?"

I don't think most of you realize the severity of this issue. They have just lost a large portion of the player base. Yes, some will buy new accounts, but really, how many? The game is 5 years old and dying, although ANet has claimed they will not shut down the Guild Wars servers until the last player stops playing, but they have also made claims many times over that haven't been seen through. I just think everybody needs to look it things as they are and hey, I could be wrong, things could get better... but if there is one thing I've learned (especially in the case of this game), expect nothing, or better yet worse than nothing (because things are bound to go wrong) and hope for the best. Because when things fall through, what then? Nothing but frustration.
Good Riddance.

Greed[Exs]

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by cormac ap dunn View Post
I don't think you realize just what we "lost" sitting in LA this morning i was delighted to see absolutely NO spam bots selling gold/accounts/stupidity en mas. The best part of your post was all the frustration YOU obviously have, think i can speak for those of us who didn't cheat when i say we aren't frustrated in the least
cya in gam...oh too soon?
Actually, the funny thing is, I'm not frustrated about being banned because... well, I wasn't. I'm not frustrated about botting because... well, I have never ever used a bot in any game nor have I used anything to give myself an unfair advantage over other players. I think it is 100% wrong, and part of me is extremely glad that so many "botters" or so they have been claimed are gone. What I'm frustrated about is that it took 5 years to do something, and when they finally did, they didn't take preventative action like implementing a long overdue cheat protection system. They instead covered up their flaws with a fancy little emote that "drags the characters to the underworld", never to be seen again. Honestly, I really do hope this is for the better. I just think that something should have been done a long time ago. And at this point, I hope the state of the game doesn't go further downhill than it has already gone.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

Don't blame ArenaNet for your guilt. If my beautiful mercedez 350 is park unlocked, doesn't gives anyone the right to drive it away. That's whats wrong with society, no trust anymore.

cormac ap dunn

cormac ap dunn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2007

Mystic Empires III [xMEx]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZainAhmed View Post
but the curious people like myself are QQ'ing...it's more of a sad day than people would like to know
Look, sorry you got something taken away from you, but you knew that what you did was wrong, curiosity killed the cat, so to speak (well more like Dhuum killed the botters!) in all honesty, if you don't want to be the focus of ridicule Why are you posting on here? you broke rules and expect sympathy from who? people that didn't break the rules? people like yourself that DID break the rules? seeking the former, your not going to find it, and seeking the latter? that gets you just as far as hoping those of us that didn't seek to break the rules would feel for you. i would suggest moving on, save yourself the embarrassment of more public mockery and take this as a lesson for the rest of your life. As for those few longstanding members of Guru that decided to cheat, there is NO sympathy for you from the rest of us. as regular posters on these forums you of ALL PLAYERS should have known better... a huge disappointment to say the least.

Devil Luca

Devil Luca

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

GMT +1

Devil Luca

E/P

But one question... now... who buy the High End Mini?

Greed[Exs]

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05 View Post
O'rly? So, by your logic, the guy in the news a few years back who got away with murder for nearly 60 years (whom is now in his late 80s btw) should NOT have been imprisoned due to it "being so long ago" ? Puh-leeeeease. "How long ago it was" does NOT justify doing shit that is considered illegal (both IRL and in-game).


Grow up.

I think you may need to grow up... because like so many others, you compare using electronic means to modify electronic software to the killing of a person... very big difference. That'd be like saying that a $2 theft from a convenience store should suffer the same fate as the guy that took an Uzi into a supermarket and massacred the entire consumer base of it. And in your scenario, they wouldn't have arrested that 80 year old man until then because they'd still be looking for them, but in ANet's case, they already had who they needed to catch but nothing about it until now...

Lolwut1337

Lolwut1337

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2010

Kama america-dis 1 :o

Straight To The [BanK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie View Post
Don't blame ArenaNet for your guilt. If my beautiful mercedez 350 is park unlocked, doesn't gives anyone the right to drive it away. That's whats wrong with society, no trust anymore.
They may not have the right, but be sure that 80% of the people passing by , knowing it's unlocked, will try to steal it .

Greed[Exs]

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot Narita View Post
No. People know the risks, and make their choices accordingly.

I knew there was bot software. I'm sure it would have been trivially easy to download it and use it. In other words, I was "enabled". But I chose not to.


Um. Because they know its wrong, they know the risks, and they have the tiniest scrap of willpower?


No. They lost a bunch of cheats and botters. Not players. And not a large proportion either.
And I don't disagree with you on this, I'm just trying to explain that when nothing is being done about a problem, there are people that tend to exploit that problem. Obviously it isn't right, but it happens, so really I'm just saying something "preventative" should have taken place and should have taken place faaar sooner then now...

Greed[Exs]

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZainAhmed View Post
What a weirdo...actually takes gaming seriously as to compare botting to murder....XD
Thank you! 12chars

Hyp3r

Hyp3r

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

freedom_razor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Pppl were QQ'ing about botters, botters are QQ'ing about bans. TBH, not much difference between two groups when it comes to QQ'ing, only the subject.

Ones couldn't live with the guy next door having leet gear, others can't live with being punished for what they knew was wrong.

Enjoying misery [as it happens now after the bannination] is a bit low, but what can you expect... Good players don't have to have high ethic standards, only play by the EULA.

Only thing to ask about/wait for is:

Unban terminated GW account [50 USD] - QTY. ?

in the game shop.

cormac ap dunn

cormac ap dunn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2007

Mystic Empires III [xMEx]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greed[Exs] View Post
What I'm frustrated about is that it took 5 years to do something, and when they finally did, they didn't take preventative action like implementing a long overdue cheat protection system. They instead covered up their flaws with a fancy little emote that "drags the characters to the underworld", never to be seen again. Honestly, I really do hope this is for the better. I just think that something should have been done a long time ago. And at this point, I hope the state of the game doesn't go further downhill than it has already gone.
Firstly, I'm glad you aren't one of the many who chose the route of botting. as far as the timing, i say better late (albeit several years late) then never. for a 5 year old game, taking these measures at all with a new game looming is impressive to say the least. i understand the frustration prior to yesterdays public banning, but that frustration doesn't need to be post banning, i for one am elated that they are still concerned enough with a game i still love after 5 years of playing. if they took the lessons learned from the last 5 years , including this latest move and implement them into GW2, they have me sold. as for the state of the game going down hill from here, time will tell, but if this last week is any indication, we are only going to see improvements!

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by freedom_razor View Post
Unban terminated GW account [50 USD] - QTY. ?

in the game shop.
/not signed. Unless the account is brand new with nothing in them

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lolwut1337 View Post
They may not have the right, but be sure that 80% of the people passing by , knowing it's unlocked, will try to steal it .
Hence Dhunnnnn dhunnnnn dhunnnn.

Greed[Exs]

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by cormac ap dunn View Post
Firstly, I'm glad you aren't one of the many who chose the route of botting. as far as the timing, i say better late (albeit several years late) then never. for a 5 year old game, taking these measures at all with a new game looming is impressive to say the least. i understand the frustration prior to yesterdays public banning, but that frustration doesn't need to be post banning, i for one am elated that they are still concerned enough with a game i still love after 5 years of playing. if they took the lessons learned from the last 5 years , including this latest move and implement them into GW2, they have me sold. as for the state of the game going down hill from here, time will tell, but if this last week is any indication, we are only going to see improvements!
I guess your right, it just bugs me that this incident could have been prevented at all. Really, if something had've been done a long time ago, would the game be in its current state? Anyway, I just want to say that I'm not defending botters or anyone that gains an unfair advantage through the use of any means, I just feel that this could have been better taken care of it it was taken care of when it should have been.

Fluffy Kittens

Guest

Join Date: Dec 2009

ANET YOU ARE AWESOME!!!!! GOOD JOB RLY! Just make sure they won't find some other way to use bots, keep up the good work <3<3<3

Thalador Doomspeaker

Thalador Doomspeaker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2008

The Ruins of Rin

Incarnation of the Reaper [GRIM]

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I'm a total noob in PvP, but how did those players - who got banned - manipulate the matches? I'm intrigued...

Could someone eleborate it (no, I don't want to be sent to the Void by the Emperor of Oblivion, so I'm not trying to learn PvP manipulation - plus I'm just playing JQ only, and I haven't done any real PvP (HA, GvG, Codex) for a long time now)?

And good job, ArenaNet!

Voltis

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2010

My Guild Hall

Les Lions de la Terre de Feu

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thalador Doomspeaker View Post
I'm a total noob in PvP, but how did those players - who got banned - manipulate the matches? I'm intrigued...
By scarying other players, pression... syncrhonizing with friends that resign, like a RR Day, etc.

merek

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2010

Great job A-net! It's good to see that you stepped up to the plate. Now hopefully you will continue with this at least until GW2 comes out.

sincerly,
Merek

Perilay Elkhorn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Canada

R/Mo

I have been playing for about 5 years. 7000 hours. I have never botted once or even thought about botting.
Seeing these bans makes me want to get gw2. Thanks Anet for restoring faith back in "fair play".
To all those whiners who are bitching about their ill lost gains. Only one thing to say.
Somedays your the windshield...somedays your the bug.

Avoc

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

You mean 'Ban scythe' - right?

Avoc

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

I feel good knowing that these players will not get any of the HoM benefits in GW2. Sure, they will say 'lol, I am not getting GW2 after what anet has done' - but we know better.

ZainAhmed

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Earth

I need a guild

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by cormac ap dunn View Post
Look, sorry you got something taken away from you, but you knew that what you did was wrong, curiosity killed the cat, so to speak (well more like Dhuum killed the botters!) in all honesty, if you don't want to be the focus of ridicule Why are you posting on here? you broke rules and expect sympathy from who? people that didn't break the rules? people like yourself that DID break the rules? seeking the former, your not going to find it, and seeking the latter? that gets you just as far as hoping those of us that didn't seek to break the rules would feel for you. i would suggest moving on, save yourself the embarrassment of more public mockery and take this as a lesson for the rest of your life. As for those few longstanding members of Guru that decided to cheat, there is NO sympathy for you from the rest of us. as regular posters on these forums you of ALL PLAYERS should have known better... a huge disappointment to say the least.

Yea, I don't want sympathy. Not justifying botting either because it's wrong in everyway...

but aren't the consequences a bit harsh?

Obviously we learn from our mistakes. There should have been a lesson not a massacre. no pun blah blah.