Recent Account Bans

spun ducky

spun ducky

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

WTB: q8 bows

R/N

If the moderators don't mind I can elaborate on one of the methods they used that created some of the bans and also some of the situations of "but I only botted on my alt account but my main got banned too". So I will respectfully wait for an answer as I rather not get banned from the forums.

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

Don't post anything that would help potential botters from being detected.

insta111

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

LOVE

N/

The scary thing is that some people honestly think that botting is part of the metagame. How can not playing the game be part of the metagame?

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

They'll say anything and blame anyone else just so they can feel better.

And they don't care about the game and only make threads here to enlighten us

Paradise Lost

Paradise Lost

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2009

UK

W/

Apparently 5 people who never botted got banned just for being on the same wireless as a botter from QQ. Now thats a screw up. It appears that they IP banned alot of people. Which explains why alt accounts of bot accounts were also banned.

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradise Lost View Post
Apparently 5 people who never botted got banned just for being on the same wireless as a botter from QQ. Now thats a screw up. It appears that they IP banned alot of people. Which explains why alt accounts of bot accounts were also banned.
Occam's Razor.

Bot accounts that were alts of a main account. The accounts were linked via credit cards. Sure the person may not have botted on their main account, but did so on 10 others and funneled the cash to the prime account. When caught, all accounts associated to the CC of the bots account are banned wholesale.

Man, I'm channeling Horatio Cane...

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradise Lost View Post
Apparently 5 people who never botted got banned just for being on the same wireless as a botter from QQ. Now thats a screw up. It appears that they IP banned alot of people. Which explains why alt accounts of bot accounts were also banned.
Alt accounts of botters SHOULD be banned, there really is no difference which account you bot on.

Seriously you don't think you can keep your "title" account safe by making money by botting on an alt account do you?

NeferJackal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

Nuff said, dont believe the majority of the claims of innocence here. You paid the price for cheating, good riddance.

aspi

aspi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

eeew

N/Rt

Very very good news, I hope they are all legit bans and noone was punished for very hard work. But I trust that you can see which ones are bots and not.

Thanks for the response.

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

Faith somewhat restored, Anet were simply using the Valve Method of banning.

Good show!

To Botters: HA HA.

Nerel

Nerel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

Australia, what you want my home address?

[CAT]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by majoho View Post
Alt accounts of botters SHOULD be banned, there really is no difference which account you bot on.

Seriously you don't think you can keep your "title" account safe by making money by botting on an alt account do you?
While I do agree with this in principle, Anet should have a pretty high burden of proof before banning the non-botting accounts to ensure that innocent people don't get caught up in the bot sweep...

IP address isn't good enough, not alone... checking the logs to see where the bot account empties it's cash/loot... probably a better idea.

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

I agree, obviously there should be evidence of massive trade between the accounts.

Ariovist Lynxkind

Ariovist Lynxkind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha

Death Bringers Union [DBU]

R/

Thank you Anet. While I accept the reality that you cant exactly do anything about them in GW1 (cause all your resources are focused on GW2, and hopefully a way of preventing it) you have renewed my faith a bit with this ban.

I have to laugh at this thread for some parts though. Legal action? Sorry, but to me that is a joke. You violated a contract you agreed to upon the purchase of the game, this is your reward.

To those who 'only used a bot once, for 5 minutes, with no gain,' you still knowingly broke the rules. You knew it was against the terms and conditions, but you still did it, deal with it.

On the other hand, the truly innocent ones that accidentally got caught up in this, if you feel you have been unjustly banned, as others have said: take it up with support.


Kudos, Anet.

Neith

Neith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

Texas

One in Guild Wars

R/

Now I agree with banning the bots, and applaud the way in which it was done. But on the flip side, i received a text last night from someone i've known for a couple of years now, met the kid on the game, he tried logging in last night for the first time in several months. He's on my friends list so I do have a pretty good idea that he hasn't logged on in quite a while, and he freaked out because his account was banned due to botting. Now whether or not he has well I personally seriously doubt that he has, yes I know he needs to take up with Anet. But I do highly doubt this kid ever botted.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua View Post
Occam's Razor.

Bot accounts that were alts of a main account. The accounts were linked via credit cards.
No. Credit card purchases are encrypted. If your database stores this information or which accounts certain cards were used on, then it is a horribly insecure database and no one should use it.

Seriously, if they can run any type of check to correlate CC's and accounts then their system just should not be used.

Really I'm sure it was just a ban on all accounts in a wireless IP range. If you are going to pull occam's razor (which the conditions for it, never actually occur in the real world), then you'd have to go with IP range bans.

SunfallE

SunfallE

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2009

West Texas

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

R/Rt

Kudos to all of the staff that worked hard on enacting the bans. Plenty of us non-botting players greatly appreciate it.

TheRaven

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradise Lost View Post
They aren't exactly telling the truth ANet. Over the past 2 weeks ive been using texmod to get the cartography titles and ive been banned! Im sending a support ticket but if this is the case then im pretty sure their detection methods are whack.

Ive no idea whether ill get my account back now!
I use texmod everyday for cartography and my account is still there. Must be something else.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

W/

Actually I have a legitimate question: If I sign up a smurf guild for an AT with only intention of it forfieting, but this is done such that there can actually be enough guilds to have an AT, is this match manipulation?

Ariovist Lynxkind

Ariovist Lynxkind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha

Death Bringers Union [DBU]

R/

Two things I forgot to add in my previous post:

1) Those saying GW should/should have implemented cheat shield/*insert bot prevention program here*: Ever stopped to think they had considered it, but it was incompatible with their software? There could have been issues that interfered with the client or the servers. Just an idea

2) For those who felt the banscythe: be glad it was Anet taking your account, and not some hacker who slipped a code into the bot, allowing them to access your account, sell your stuff then delete all your characters. Just saying

McMullen

McMullen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/W

Can't really describe how brilliant A.Nets reaction to this is, really makes up for it being delayed.
Thank you! Please keep the banscythe coming.

niek2004

niek2004

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Afk in Gh.

Old N Dirty[ym] Good Tactics[Good]

P/Rt

À guildy that used that ks mod and high def armor .dll did not het banned.

Hantex Brinx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2009

I used textmod and KSmod and my account got baned...(but on the plaync site it says Account Status: Playable)

Fusylum

Fusylum

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Michigan

Reign of Judgement [RoJ]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
Thanks for slaying the bots. I for one do not want to be assimilated by the Borg.

Are the following still allowed?

KSMod
TexMod
Multi-Launch, or other methods of running multiple clients
Macros that are not automated
I understand that defining the line between a macro and a "bot" is rather hard to do. Example: Press "CTRL num7" to execute skill # 3 on all hero skill bars. edit: Third party software allows custom hotkeys not available in the control options menu.

Thank you.

Incidentally, I have all of those installed and my account is not banned.

EDIT: Questions answered ...





Nicely Put Together!

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Dr View Post
No. Credit card purchases are encrypted. If your database stores this information or which accounts certain cards were used on, then it is a horribly insecure database and no one should use it.

Seriously, if they can run any type of check to correlate CC's and accounts then their system just should not be used.

Really I'm sure it was just a ban on all accounts in a wireless IP range. If you are going to pull occam's razor (which the conditions for it, never actually occur in the real world), then you'd have to go with IP range bans.
Uhm... What? This is soooooooooooo NOT true!


When they permabanned 9/14 of my accounts a year ago they also blocked my credit card from the in-game store.




Quote:
Originally Posted by Hantex Brinx View Post
I used textmod and KSmod and my account got baned...(but on the plaync site it says Account Status: Playable)
That's nothing new. 9 of my perma'd accounts have said that for over a year now. /shrug

Hantex Brinx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05 View Post
That's nothing new. 9 of my paerma' accounts have said that for over a year now. /shrug
that is not good news...

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hantex Brinx View Post
that is not good news...
No no... I meant about the PlayNC "playable" part. That's nothing new. It always says that for people.


Don't be alarmed, Hantex.


As per my other post, which can be found here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Me
"I've used TexMod in the past to play with textures and I was never permbanned for "Third Party Software". I have also been using KSMod for as long as it's been out (both the old one and the injected one) and I have still yet to be banned for "Third Party Software".


I think it's pretty darn safe to assume that TexMod and KSMod are ok to use (for now)."

godis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

LOVE

N/Me

I start Guildwars through Texmod every day. Haven't been banned yet

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05 View Post
When they permabanned 9/14 of my accounts a year ago they also blocked my credit card from the in-game store.
Seriously if this is true, then do not ever give them your CC. Maintaining a database like that is highly insecure, a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing goldmine if identity theives can get their way in.

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

Um, Anet gets paid through the credit card. I'm kinda sure they HAVE to keep records of who bought what, at what price, via which card etc...

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Dr View Post
Seriously if this is true, then do not ever give them your CC. Maintaining a database like that is highly insecure, a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing goldmine if identity theives can get their way in.
I hate to break it to you but anyone you have ever given your credit card to in order to make a payment has a copy of your credit card number.

Time for you to break out the tin foil.

BTW, Don't ever use your CC to pay for a cab ride because I can assure you. I have that information. (Within 10 years anyway, after that records are destroyed.)

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

Good job Anet. Good job. Bots should just burn in hell. If anyone is angry because of this it's either:

A) They bot
B) Got wrongly accused (which I hope Anet fixes for them if they are actually innocent)


Again, amazing job.

Devil Luca

Devil Luca

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

GMT +1

Devil Luca

E/P

It's fantastic how many people start new thread saying i was banned but i use the bot only for 1 minute and i don't earn money -.-" For all the botter, when you decide to use the bot you know you are broken rules so what you want?!

Killing people is a crime but if one kill 1000 people and another only 1 i want too see if him say Hey i kill only 1...

SmokingHotImolation

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2008

Odense, Denmark

E/

I'm so happy. That is all.

Finally it pays off not to be a cheater - gj ANet.

MH3DL4

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2009

well i got banned but i enjoyed raping noobs with ruptbot^^
only thing to complain about is that now there will be even less ppl on gw..but probably some srs players will come back so doesn't matter of botters nice job, if i was a fair player i'd thank u^^

Enon

Enon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Taking a dip at Nundu Bay

Quote:
Originally Posted by mini pet monster View Post
LOLOLOL

DO ALMOST NOTHING FOR 6 MONTHS. THEN WHEN THERE'S ENOUGH OF EM, BAN EM ALL!!!

seriously, you killed the best pvpers, the richest gw players, and 1000s of people that loved this game. gratz.
Please add this post to the Wall of Fame. Claiming the best PvPers have been killed by banning bot users is just...

Well, you get it...

Neo Atomisk

Neo Atomisk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2008

State College, Pennsylvania, United States

Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

W/

i got banned for botting and I ain't even mad bro.
So I ask you,

cormac ap dunn

cormac ap dunn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2007

Mystic Empires III [xMEx]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MH3DL4 View Post
well i got banned but i enjoyed raping noobs with ruptbot^^
Actually you enjoyed letting a program spam, YOU did nothing, buy a hamster next time, you can watch that do something you aren't involved in and they are a whole lot cheaper then the game you lost forever (thank you for eliminating one more moron from the game ).
Again well done Anet for taking people like this out of the game.

Dien

Dien

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

the great finnish republic

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Atomisk View Post
i got banned for botting and I ain't even mad bro.
So I ask you,
Your bitter tears taste sweet.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enon View Post
Please add this post to the Wall of Fame. Claiming the best PvPers have been killed by banning bot users is just...

Well, you get it...
I rather like the 'killed 1000s of people that loved this game'.

You love this game that much you need to use a bot to enjoy it?

That's not love, that's obsession.

cormac ap dunn

cormac ap dunn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2007

Mystic Empires III [xMEx]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
I think we can all tell who's mad here!
posting on a forum to a game you can never play again is fail, and backing each other up on your group fail is funny, so guess that means your post is funny? GG on the QQ through humor though, makes me smile a bit harder as i PLAY the game (by the way Loving the content that you won't get to see play out first hand )