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cormac ap dunn
I think the lesson learned needed to be dealt with a harsh blow. You may think your actions merit less punishment, but so do all the "hardcore" botters. they make the same arguements, they make the same pleas to Anet, the community at large, and then to any who will listen. Some threaten litigation, some threaten dire consequences to Anet, NCsoft, Guru mods. does the punishment fit the "crime"(bit harsh a word, but take it in context)? Certainly, for the moment you first logged into the game, you agreed to abide by the rules Anet set forth, and you agreed that whatever they decided to do as a consequence was acceptable. A harsh blow to those who thought "i'll just try it once, what could it hurt...", but we all see what it hurt in a very GRAPHIC manner. the message was sent, the lessons will be learned. Heres to hoping it was loud and clear for you.
Fear The Apocalypse
At least I can get into Kamadan d1 now hahahahaha
I loved watching all the little bots/people tied to bots QQ as they were dragged to purgatory. Simply owned, and I can not think of a better way to have done it. People who are complainging about being banned and admit OPENLY that they have botted.... I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR YOU!
I loved watching all the little bots/people tied to bots QQ as they were dragged to purgatory. Simply owned, and I can not think of a better way to have done it. People who are complainging about being banned and admit OPENLY that they have botted.... I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR YOU!
Kumu Honua
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Yea, I don't want sympathy. Not justifying botting either because it's wrong in everyway...
but aren't the consequences a bit harsh? Obviously we learn from our mistakes. There should have been a lesson not a massacre. no pun blah blah. |
We do indeed learn from our mistakes. You learned the lesson that botting is a permanent ban.
~ Angel ~
+1 you rolled the dice, you lost.
Rocky Raccoon
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And as such also irrational to punish someone for an act commited even 2 years ago. It was just an example, that's still a lot of time that can be put in over a 2 year period, even a 1 year period. I'm just saying things should have been dealt with to begin with by implementing better security measures instead of waiting 5 years to hit pretty well everyone that has ever botted with a baseball bat (or in this case, Dhuum's Scythe). Which by the way, may have been amusing, but why spend the extra time and waste the extra effort if they feel that this issue is so important.
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ZainAhmed
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Nope. The consequences are exactly as laid out in the EULA. You were warned what the consequences entailed. You simply ignored the warning.
We do indeed learn from our mistakes. You learned the lesson that botting is a permanent ban. |
Was I in need of a harsh blow to teach me that GW IS exploitable in pve and pvp(had no idea until few months back), which is hard being an mmorpg, and that anyone who exploits it for 1 second *rolls eyes* is liable to the same punishment as someone who has been using bots in pve to ruin the economy for 5 years with blatant bot usage.
I'm sure I'll get the ban lifted....
fireflyry
fowlero
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I'm a total noob in PvP, but how did those players - who got banned - manipulate the matches? I'm intrigued...
Could someone eleborate it (no, I don't want to be sent to the Void by the Emperor of Oblivion, so I'm not trying to learn PvP manipulation - plus I'm just playing JQ only, and I haven't done any real PvP (HA, GvG, Codex) for a long time now)? And good job, ArenaNet! |
You take two champ range guilds and press enter simultaneously (during dead hours, so chance of not getting your other guild are minimal) and have one side resign so free champ points.
This sounds risky to the rating however the ladder matching system is dumb, if you get "entering in 0:10" (cant remember what it actually says...) and the other guild doesn't, you know you don't have your other guild as opponent. If all players exit guild wars before that match starts, a ghost game occurs which doesn't "count" thus your guild loses no rating and you try again.
Ever since BSpike got buried this is what some PvEers (though not exclusively PvE, some PvP who still care for c-rank) with lots of money have been using to get their champ titles for HoM or for extra large e-penis.
Same is done in codex as it's so inactive, however i've no idea if they banned people doing that or not. Odds if they were doing that they'd probably sync'd champs too.
vamp08
This isnt going to turn out well, I can see the signs now.
-People are acting barbaric: "BAN THE BOTTERS!!! THEY ALL NEED TO GO!!!"
-Idolizing the wrong people: "OMG TANK U ANET I WUV YOU!!!"
-Claiming superiorty: "People who don't bot are incapeable of evil"
This is starting to turn into a whitch hunt and a crusade, the wrong people following the wrong leaders. Anets ingnorace is beyond comprehension, they really should be added into the great book of "How NOT to run and maintain and online RPG"
Soon this will degrade into chaos, people will report others on the accusation of botting because he/she had a lucky d-shot, someone will see another in an outpost for more than 5 minuets and spam /report. HA and GvG is going to be transformed into RA because people will now have an overbearing sense of, "Holy cow! I can HA and PvP now cause there are no bots!!!" when in reality they are complete asshats.
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cliffnote: In all honesty I dont give a ***t about pvp botting, you are all elitist a***oles in my book.
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All-in-all, Anet created something much worse by simply terminating everyone. Would you have simply exiled the one person who invented the power-drill over the screw-driver because it gave the other man a "strict advantage"? Get real Anet, your reasoning is biased *******t and you have absolutly no idea how to handle...really...any situation this game has come up with. (see: XTH)
Edit: censorship, cause I know 7 year olds run this forum
-People are acting barbaric: "BAN THE BOTTERS!!! THEY ALL NEED TO GO!!!"
-Idolizing the wrong people: "OMG TANK U ANET I WUV YOU!!!"
-Claiming superiorty: "People who don't bot are incapeable of evil"
This is starting to turn into a whitch hunt and a crusade, the wrong people following the wrong leaders. Anets ingnorace is beyond comprehension, they really should be added into the great book of "How NOT to run and maintain and online RPG"
Soon this will degrade into chaos, people will report others on the accusation of botting because he/she had a lucky d-shot, someone will see another in an outpost for more than 5 minuets and spam /report. HA and GvG is going to be transformed into RA because people will now have an overbearing sense of, "Holy cow! I can HA and PvP now cause there are no bots!!!" when in reality they are complete asshats.
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cliffnote: In all honesty I dont give a ***t about pvp botting, you are all elitist a***oles in my book.
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All-in-all, Anet created something much worse by simply terminating everyone. Would you have simply exiled the one person who invented the power-drill over the screw-driver because it gave the other man a "strict advantage"? Get real Anet, your reasoning is biased *******t and you have absolutly no idea how to handle...really...any situation this game has come up with. (see: XTH)
Edit: censorship, cause I know 7 year olds run this forum
Rocky Raccoon
pumpkin pie
hahahahaha, i just realized that synchers were taken care of as well. JOY TO THE WORLD......
/goes dig up old screenshots of proof. /revenge time
/goes dig up old screenshots of proof. /revenge time
ZainAhmed
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This isnt going to turn out well, I can see the signs now.
-People are acting barbaric: "BAN THE BOTTERS!!! THEY ALL NEED TO GO!!!" -Idolizing the wrong people: "OMG TANK U ANET I WUV YOU!!!" -Claiming superiorty: "People who don't bot are incapeable of evil" This is starting to turn into a whitch hunt and a crusade, the wrong people following the wrong leaders. Anets ingnorace is beyond comprehension, they really should be added into the great book of "How NOT to run and maintain and online RPG" Soon this will degrade into chaos, people will report others on the accusation of botting because he/she had a lucky d-shot, someone will see another in an outpost for more than 5 minuets and spam /report. HA and GvG is going to be transformed into RA because people will now have an overbearing sense of, "Holy cow! I can HA and PvP now cause there are no bots!!!" when in reality they are complete asshats. ---- cliffnote: In all honesty I dont give a ***t about pvp botting, you are all elitist a***oles in my book. ---- All-in-all, Anet created something much worse by simply terminating everyone. Would you have simply exiled the one person who invented the power-drill over the screw-driver because it gave the other man a "strict advantage"? Get real Anet, your reasoning is biased *******t and you have absolutly no idea how to handle...really...any situation this game has come up with. (see: XTH) Edit: censorship, cause I know 7 year olds run this forum |
ZainAhmed
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hahahahaha, i just realized that synchers were taken care of as well. JOY TO THE WORLD......
/goes dig up old screenshots of proof. /revenge time |
always hated those syncers, just wish I wasn't banned either then GW must be really fun right now...
Greed[Exs]
willie nelson
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This is starting to turn into a whitch hunt and a crusade [...cut...] Soon this will degrade into chaos [...cut...] All-in-all, Anet created something much worse
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Yours is also.
Bye.
pumpkin pie
I kept screenshots from day 1. pack rats and cheap DvDs. But I don't think I will, I had enough laugh. All this while, if you have follow the bot/sync complains on this forum, you know the botters and synchers are not afraid at all that ArenaNet is going to do anything, they taunt you and says whoever don't follow the "flow" is stupid. Guess we are all wrong!! heh.
ZainAhmed
Thalador Doomspeaker
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Originally Posted by James Phinney
Here’s an actual account we just terminated: 2,469 hours, 38 titles, 913 plat, 268 ecto, Eternal Legendary Vanquisher monument, Mini Gwen, Chaos Gloves, Mallyx’s Strife, The Holy Avenger, etc., etc. It’s all gone now. Forever. You will not want that to happen to your account.
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midnightduo1
i wonder if i could still msg my seller.....
is the buy/sell/high end thread here going to be okay? i think some of the threads in highend is going to be....invalid?
is the buy/sell/high end thread here going to be okay? i think some of the threads in highend is going to be....invalid?
gradientf
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This isnt going to turn out well, I can see the signs now.
-People are acting barbaric: "BAN THE BOTTERS!!! THEY ALL NEED TO GO!!!" -Idolizing the wrong people: "OMG TANK U ANET I WUV YOU!!!" -Claiming superiorty: "People who don't bot are incapeable of evil" This is starting to turn into a whitch hunt and a crusade, the wrong people following the wrong leaders. Anets ingnorace is beyond comprehension, they really should be added into the great book of "How NOT to run and maintain and online RPG" Soon this will degrade into chaos, people will report others on the accusation of botting because he/she had a lucky d-shot, someone will see another in an outpost for more than 5 minuets and spam /report. HA and GvG is going to be transformed into RA because people will now have an overbearing sense of, "Holy cow! I can HA and PvP now cause there are no bots!!!" when in reality they are complete asshats. ---- cliffnote: In all honesty I dont give a ***t about pvp botting, you are all elitist a***oles in my book. ---- All-in-all, Anet created something much worse by simply terminating everyone. Would you have simply exiled the one person who invented the power-drill over the screw-driver because it gave the other man a "strict advantage"? Get real Anet, your reasoning is biased *******t and you have absolutly no idea how to handle...really...any situation this game has come up with. (see: XTH) Edit: censorship, cause I know 7 year olds run this forum |
fireflyry
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HA and GvG is going to be transformed into RA because people will now have an overbearing sense of, "Holy cow! I can HA and PvP now cause there are no bots!!!" when in reality they are complete asshats.
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More meat for the meat-eaters I say.
In reality this should see more experienced players return.My alliance is seeing people who gave up PvP come back from the title grind.I think your grossly over-exaggerating the negatives here.
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Yeah i got banned too while raptor farming the GM's clearly cant detect bots at all
Maybe they got banned some bots but on the way also a lot of people that didnt bot
Good going ncsoft you suck
Maybe they got banned some bots but on the way also a lot of people that didnt bot
Good going ncsoft you suck
Lolwut1337
A friend sent this to me, it matches the situation pretty good ^^
Jidai
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Yeah i got banned too while raptor farming the GM's clearly cant detect bots at all
Maybe they got banned some bots but on the way also a lot of people that didnt bot Good going ncsoft you suck |
i botted only on my other 4 accounts?!
sound right
vamp08
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That's a bad thing?
More meat for the meat-eaters I say. In reality this should see more experienced players return.My alliance is seeing people who gave up PvP come back from the title grind.I think your grossly over-exaggerating the negatives here. |
Dont feed me psychology BS, I've been around for 5 years, I.KNOW.YOU.PEOPLE (in the non-creepy way).The people who cry wolf are just as bad as the people who ate the sheep.
*waits for the cliche' comment ending in "fail"*
Krill
Epic, epic, epic Anet.
wind fire and ice
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I can exaggerate all I want, it's called free-will. Im not telling anyone to swallow what I have to say, I just said it. This community has a nack for "omg, you said something I dont agree with, LETS MAKE FUN OF JOO!"
Dont feed me psychology BS, I've been around for 5 years, I.KNOW.YOU.PEOPLE (in the non-creepy way).The people who cry wolf are just as bad as the people who ate the sheep. *waits for the cliche' comment ending in "fail"* |
Sorry,had to.
pumpkin pie
I See You Got Banned. hahahahahahahahah
hattara
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I can exaggerate all I want, it's called free-will. Im not telling anyone to swallow what I have to say, I just said it. This community has a nack for "omg, you said something I dont agree with, LETS MAKE FUN OF JOO!"
Dont feed me psychology BS, I've been around for 5 years, I.KNOW.YOU.PEOPLE (in the non-creepy way).The people who cry wolf are just as bad as the people who ate the sheep. *waits for the cliche' comment ending in "fail"* |
Yeah, pretty easy to see which one is the better conversant here.
Grj
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I can exaggerate all I want, it's called free-will. Im not telling anyone to swallow what I have to say, I just said it. This community has a nack for "omg, you said something I dont agree with, LETS MAKE FUN OF JOO!"
Dont feed me psychology BS, I've been around for 5 years, I.KNOW.YOU.PEOPLE (in the non-creepy way).The people who cry wolf are just as bad as the people who ate the sheep. *waits for the cliche' comment ending in "fail"* |
ZainAhmed
This is just a show. Anet just wanted a pat on the back and they know the botters/syncers and what not will return...$$
cormac ap dunn
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This is just a show. Anet just wanted a pat on the back and they know the botters/syncers and what not will return...$$
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thats right, we will stand ever vigilant against Bot Zombies...
Default137
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Well I for one hope you do have the evidence. Ev1 That knows me knows I have never botted or used other 3rd party programs ( except for ventrilo and Winamp) while playing GW, yet my account has been banned. I'll see ya in court ANet if I don't get my account back. And just a word for ev1 else that has not botted or used other 3rd party software but has now been banned: Contact an attorney in your area inquire about sueing Anet for the emotional distress caused. Make them produce this "Evidence"!
This is a very valid legal complaint. The time ,effort ,and money ( buying perks from NCSOFT), gives you the cause. |
NCSoft doesn't have to do shit, when you play an MMO you sign away your rights, and agree to either play things the exact way they want things to be played, or have the chance of losing EVERYTHING to them. Honestly, they won't even have to bring up evidence, and your case will probably never reach court. They will just need to point out to the Judge that when you first purchased the game, all you purchased was the right to play in it, and everything you did in the game actually belongs to ANet. And if they believe you broke their rules, then thats all they need to take away all your goodies, because you are in effect borrowing said goodies, even goodies you bought, then it legally counts as paying a friend to borrow his stuff/renting.
Sorry if I seem a bit harsh, but either you are innocent, and will get your stuff back when YOU prove it, or your trying to garner support for your lying ass because you got banned for cheating, and don't want people to know. Judging by the fact ANet can almost certainly check records, can check conversations, and can check all sorts of other things, and your friends can't see you 24/7, and well, I'm more inclined to believe ANet, especially as this wasn't a largescale shotgun nerf like in the past, but was targeting individuals they WATCHED bot, or they watched for a period of time.
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Most of the people here suck just as much as the GM's of Ncsoft.
They think you have been banned you must have done something.
Can only hope the same happens to all that think that way.
Only good thing of this ban that i stopped playing games and have more social life again.
In the end is evry second you spend playing wasted
They think you have been banned you must have done something.
Can only hope the same happens to all that think that way.
Only good thing of this ban that i stopped playing games and have more social life again.
In the end is evry second you spend playing wasted
windtalker
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Do what you want under your "free will" but when anet does it there's a problem? Also have you actually been banned or are your trolling again?
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That's right, people that botted actually cared about the game and played with other people. All you haters are going to hate but I know people who got banned, and they were the type of players keeping GW PvE alive. Meanwhile, the friend who lives across the country who I don't have an excuse to communicate with but we get on a play guild wars sometimes in the evenings, that's gone, because why? he used a drunkard bot or something. Makes the people who played the game because of the community, want to stop.
I know it's a surprise to all you people who live on the internet, but there is no black and white issue. People botting, macroing, w/e, need to be judged on the severity of their actions, and none of the PvE bots, at least, is equivalent to killing people. It might be equivalent to going too fast on the freeway because they wanted to get to GWAMM as fast as possible. What do you get? A ticket or a warning. Do you get the death penalty. According to the "people who don't bot," yes you do.
Honestly, some of the people who don't bot, it seems now that their sole reason for not botting was so they could laugh in the face of those who do. That seems really ethical. NOT. GG on superiority complex.
Voodoo Rage
I didn't bot, not out of any sense of moral superiority but because I didn't want to risk a ban. I used to bot all the time on Mafia Wars because I could care less if I got banned on that stupid game. I don't think the botters are bad people, just kind of dumb. They knew they were taking a significant risk by doing so.
All in all, I just want ANET to make it very clear to the rest of us remaining players EXACTLY what types of behavior will illicit a ban. As I have mentioned in another thread, a lot of us are essentially cheating in some EOTN missions by flagging heroes across the map to avoid mob spawns. That is in fact cheating and I would hope I don't get a PERMANENT BAN for doing so.
Also, there is that EOTN mission, "Service: Practice, Dummy" where you can type /resign at the beginning of the mission and it counts as complete (the one where you get the Ebon Assassin skill). I hope I don't get a PERMANENT BAN for doing that either.
I'm also curious why people who exploited the bug in the Zos Shivros Channel mission (to max out Luxon titles while being AFK) didn't get permanently banned either. That seems no different than a bot in terms of "playing the game while not being at your keyboard".
All in all, I just want ANET to make it very clear to the rest of us remaining players EXACTLY what types of behavior will illicit a ban. As I have mentioned in another thread, a lot of us are essentially cheating in some EOTN missions by flagging heroes across the map to avoid mob spawns. That is in fact cheating and I would hope I don't get a PERMANENT BAN for doing so.
Also, there is that EOTN mission, "Service: Practice, Dummy" where you can type /resign at the beginning of the mission and it counts as complete (the one where you get the Ebon Assassin skill). I hope I don't get a PERMANENT BAN for doing that either.
I'm also curious why people who exploited the bug in the Zos Shivros Channel mission (to max out Luxon titles while being AFK) didn't get permanently banned either. That seems no different than a bot in terms of "playing the game while not being at your keyboard".
Rocky Raccoon
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Most of the people here suck just as much as the GM's of Ncsoft.
They think you have been banned you must have done something. Can only hope the same happens to all that think that way. Only good thing of this ban that i stopped playing games and have more social life again. In the end is evry second you spend playing wasted |
cormac ap dunn
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Most of the people here suck just as much as the GM's of Ncsoft.
They think you have been banned you must have done something. Can only hope the same happens to all that think that way. Only good thing of this ban that i stopped playing games and have more social life again. In the end is evry second you spend playing wasted |
Nerel
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Most of the people here suck just as much as the GM's of Ncsoft.
They think you have been banned you must have done something. Can only hope the same happens to all that think that way. Only good thing of this ban that i stopped playing games and have more social life again. In the end is evry second you spend playing wasted |
If you are honestly innocent, have never botted or otherwise violated the EULA in an instant perma-ban kind of way, and yet you coped a ban... then you really need to talk to the NCsoft support people and explain the mistake (remaining calm and polite will go a long way here)... no amount of forum sympathy is going to return your account to you.
If you just botted that one time, only for a little bit, a long time ago... then I don't care about how unfair you think your ban is.
Del
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Most of the people here suck just as much as the GM's of Ncsoft.
They think you have been banned you must have done something. Can only hope the same happens to all that think that way. Only good thing of this ban that i stopped playing games and have more social life again. In the end is evry second you spend playing wasted |