Was termination really appropriate?

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Nerel
Nerel
Jungle Guide
#201
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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow View Post
Yea,insult the "botters" of being immature,then post stuff like that. (ofcourse,most botters are immature)

Please,if your going to quote me,do so by replying with a smart answer,not a

"Lul [email protected] ur a liaur go ask for anutz help crybaby lulz bai!"

Also,the fact that I was banned doesn't prove I gained anything from botting...The detection of bots was (probably) done with dll injection detection and,since I did it once,I was banned.
Firstly, I didn't insult you... I pointed out that you got a ban for your actions.

I also suggested if you were honest about the extent of your botting you should contact support... that might seem kind of obvious, but one never knows.

And yes, if I was working NCsoft support dealing with the flood of botters demanding their accounts back, I would stop and laugh when I came across a guy who botted so little that he never made it out of the outpost... and assuming you weren't using an outpost based bot (Drunk bot, trade/scambot, Gold seller spam bot etc...) I'd still be laughing as I unbanned your account.

But, you're a rude, obnoxious little RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOwit and I don't care if you contact support, I certainly no longer care if you get your account back.

Have a good day, I know I will.
Zarion Silverarrow
Zarion Silverarrow
Lion's Arch Merchant
#202
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Originally Posted by Nerel View Post
Firstly, I didn't insult you... I pointed out that you got a ban for your actions.

I also suggested if you were honest about the extent of your botting you should contact support... that might seem kind of obvious, but one never knows.

And yes, if I was working NCsoft support dealing with the flood of botters demanding their accounts back, I would stop and laugh when I came across a guy who botted so little that he never made it out of the outpost... and assuming you weren't using an outpost based bot (Drunk bot, trade/scambot, Gold seller spam bot etc...) I'd still be laughing as I unbanned your account.

But, you're a rude, obnoxious little RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOwit and I don't care if you contact support, I certainly no longer care if you get your account back.

Have a good day, I know I will.
Is not what you said,its how.
pumpkin pie
pumpkin pie
Furnace Stoker
#203
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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow View Post
What about a 2 week ban,then a perma ban if the offence is repeated?With probation that will include HIGH monitoring?

Ofcourse,with the exeption of about 3500 of the people that botted 24/7,I think this is a good idea.
Nope, perma-ban is it. No negotiation in this case.

Sorry you are banned, you should not have use a bot when you've agreed not to use one, period.
cormac ap dunn
cormac ap dunn
Krytan Explorer
#204
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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow View Post
Is not what you said,its how.
so this is interpretive QQ now? move over regular QQ the new less definitive more open QQ is here. perhaps he put in an angry period, or a menacing apostrophe ? is my question make glaring at you the wrong way? oh no another one! EKK AN UPSETTING ECLAMATION POINT...
Zarion Silverarrow
Zarion Silverarrow
Lion's Arch Merchant
#205
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Originally Posted by cormac ap dunn View Post
so this is interpretive QQ now? move over regular QQ the new less definitive more open QQ is here. perhaps he put in an angry period, or a menacing apostrophe ? is my question make glaring at you the wrong way? oh no another one! EKK AN UPSETTING ECLAMATION POINT...
Jesus christ,this is my last reply to you...

I'm here to discuss the bans,not argue with others.

GG,you won,you beat me,etc,etc.
BuD
BuD
Krytan Explorer
#206
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Originally Posted by cormac ap dunn View Post
so this is interpretive QQ now? move over regular QQ the new less definitive more open QQ is here. perhaps he put in an angry period, or a menacing apostrophe ? is my question make glaring at you the wrong way? oh no another one! EKK AN UPSETTING ECLAMATION POINT...
No offense to OP, but this made me lol
snaek
snaek
Forge Runner
#207
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Originally Posted by The Josip View Post
I don't want you praying on 4yr old kids, you pedophile. Stop trying to make pedophilia look ok, it's not.
what is this i dont even
Lord Sojar
Lord Sojar
The Fallen One
#208
Botters are cheaters. Cheaters are evil. Evil never wins. If you botted, you cheated, and you got perma banned, rightfully so. Goodbye to you and good luck.
Ka Tet
Ka Tet
Krytan Explorer
#209
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Originally Posted by snaek View Post
what is this i dont even
I'm thinking it was either an absolute fail attempt at a strawman argument or attempted humor. Then again, he may just be the transcriptionist for the voices in his head.
Zarion Silverarrow
Zarion Silverarrow
Lion's Arch Merchant
#210
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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief View Post
Botters are cheaters. Cheaters are evil. Evil never wins. If you botted, you cheated, and you got perma banned, rightfully so. Goodbye to you and good luck.
Botting itself should not be punished,but the benefits from it.

Like; If a person botted and all it did was take 20 steps in a town,does he deserve a ban?
sixdartbart
sixdartbart
Forge Runner
#211
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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow View Post
Jesus christ,this is my last reply to you...
Can you expand that to include all of us? please please please

You said you wanted to tell your story. check {way to many times IMO}
You said you wanted to see what other people thought. check

Now please stop repeating yourself and just deal with Anet support about getting your acct back.
You are really sorry should be a good enough reason so I'm sure you will soon be able to spam your story in outposts all across the land.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow View Post
If a person botted and all it did was take 20 steps in a town,does he deserve a ban?
YES
cormac ap dunn
cormac ap dunn
Krytan Explorer
#212
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow View Post
Botting itself should not be punished,but the benefits from it.

Like; If a person botted and all it did was take 20 steps in a town,does he deserve a ban?
as i have said before, a second or a lifetime depends on which end of the barrel you stand... you say it was just 20 steps, the next guy says whats a few ecto, come on , i'm not as bad as so and so... so and so says, well one stack of ectos isn't like a stack of armbraces... its not about the first step you make its about the step of the guy that follows you... one of you is racing to the top of the heap, its just a question of whos step started the race...
Lord Sojar
Lord Sojar
The Fallen One
#213
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow View Post
Botting itself should not be punished,but the benefits from it.

Like; If a person botted and all it did was take 20 steps in a town,does he deserve a ban?
Yes, they do. If you used a bot, in any form, you deserve to be perma banned. Personally, I think they should be MAC and IP banned from the game, so they have no chance of returning. There is zero excuse to use a bot, no matter how you word it. It's against the ToS/EULA, and the punishment fits the crime. Cya botters!
Zarion Silverarrow
Zarion Silverarrow
Lion's Arch Merchant
#214
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Originally Posted by sixdartbart View Post
Can you expand that to include all of us? please please please

You said you wanted to tell your story. check {way to many times IMO}
You said you wanted to see what other people thought. check

Now please stop repeating yourself and just deal with Anet support about getting your acct back.
You are really sorry should be a good enough reason so I'm sure you will soon be able to spam your story in outposts all across the land.




YES
I'm only repeating myself because people keep saying stuff that contradict what I just said,hence,they are not reading it or don't understand it.

If I am to shut up because I am repeating myself,then everyone here needs to shut it.



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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief View Post
Yes, they do. If you used a bot, in any form, you deserve to be perma banned. Personally, I think they should be MAC and IP banned from the game, so they have no chance of returning. There is zero excuse to use a bot, no matter how you word it. It's against the ToS/EULA, and the punishment fits the crime. Cya botters!

I respect you,and anyone that has that opinion. Especially since I have my PC because of your help...

Anyways,so,according to your opinion,a person that gained nothing deserves the same punishment as the one that gained hundreds of ectos...
snaek
snaek
Forge Runner
#215
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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief View Post
Botters are cheaters. Cheaters are evil. Evil never wins.
good statement, and i agree with it. botters definitely deserve to be banned.

one problem here though:
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If you botted, you cheated, and you got perma banned, rightfully so. Goodbye to you and good luck.
not everyone who has tried or used a bot program would i consider a "botter".
cormac ap dunn
cormac ap dunn
Krytan Explorer
#216
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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow View Post
I'm only repeating myself because people keep saying stuff that contradict what I just said,hence,they are not reading it or don't understand it.

If I am to shut up because I am repeating myself,then everyone here needs to shut it.
Zarion, no offence man, but you have been pleading your innocence with people who did NOT bot, sympathy stopped the second you knowingly did what you did. for the love of all that is sacred STOP ASKING OUR APPROVAL YOU WILL NOT GET IT. i promise, if i could personally hand deliver your plea to support just to get you to stop repeating your sob story, believe you me, i would crawl there. If by some form of divine grace an Anet staffer sees this sad, long, overly exaggerated thread about the 20 steps ( we know it was 20 steps, you have apparently counted the steps you took years ago, committed them to memory and then drilled them into our heads) you took to your ban, goes over all the info they gathered on you and by some spectacular act of ignorance allows you back in game, please for the love of god don't tell us about it!
pumpkin pie
pumpkin pie
Furnace Stoker
#217
Actually, i do not think ArenaNet would wrongly ban anyone, if you really did not bot, go talk to their support.

ArenaNet did however take a long time to deal with this issue, that is probably to make absolutely and be very sure that those people they banned deserve to be banned. With whatever technology/programming/data gathering program thingy they write.

So, plea if you must, I am sure they have the evidence/data collected to back them up of all "botting" activities that leads to the banned.
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punisher69
Pre-Searing Cadet
#218
now listen Judge I did not know that robbing a bank, stealing a car and murdering 500 people was wrong so your only going to give me 5 days in jail right? Cool...NOT BOT=PERM BAN..
close thread, light goes out all is over.
Vilaptca
Vilaptca
Pre-Searing Vanquisher
#219
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow View Post
Botting itself should not be punished,but the benefits from it.

Like; If a person botted and all it did was take 20 steps in a town,does he deserve a ban?
Just because he was late to the botting scene and only got to use his for 20 steps doesn't mean he doesn't still deserve his punishment. They downloaded the bot for a reason, and whether or not they had the chance to use it shouldn't make a difference in their punishment as they had the intent to use it.

Also just wondering if it was pretty cool to watch Dhuum appear before you and kill your character?
Zarion Silverarrow
Zarion Silverarrow
Lion's Arch Merchant
#220
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilaptca View Post
Just because he was late to the botting scene and only got to use his for 20 steps doesn't mean he doesn't still deserve his punishment. They downloaded the bot for a reason, and whether or not they had the chance to use it shouldn't make a difference in their punishment as they had the intent to use it.

Also just wondering if it was pretty cool to watch Dhuum appear before you and kill your character?
hehe no,I was watching T.V when I got banned