Players who got banned get their new accounts banned too.

Unlike Youtube who seem to take stuff down without looking into it first, Anet isn't like that. They made it clear that the 3,700 accounts they banned had been monitored closely for a while to see if the player was indeed using a bot. Once they have proof to 100% decide they where using a bot then they ban them. Anet just doesn't pick out random players and kick them off for no reason.

and how is that? By them enforcing the rules of the game layout in the user agreement and punishing the players who break it wrong? NO, by them doing this they are actually getting themselves out of the hole all the bots and gold sellers had dug.

It's not stealing at all. The former players signed the EULA a first time, showing that they agreed to the terms. If you don't agree with something, don't sign a legal document saying that you do.

lol, I guess they just got owned =D, and there is nothing they can do.

Anet isn't stealing any money, people decided to ignore the EULA and are (literally) paying for it.

While I like ArenaNet's actions in principle (you botted, you're done), it's pretty douchey to charge them and then instantly ban them. It's also douchey to charge way more for the games in the online store than brick and mortar stores charge, so it's a double middle finger.

I have no sympathy for those who truly botted and can no longer play; however from a PR standpoint ArenaNet really needs to get that money refunded.

To be honest, I would like much, much more concrete information on this before anyone starts throwing around accusations and getting up to their necks in legalese. For all we know, it could be an accident.

I don't want to discredit the original poster, but you're one person and it's hard to verify if we're getting the whole story. If the claims are substantiated, then anyone affected should immediately get in contact with NCSoft.

Ban evasion is against the EULA, yeah it's dick that they take the cash, then ban, but then again, is it worth getting jacked to set up an account to a 5 year old game that's becoming less and less active? Their own fault for not just moving on to new games.

NCsoft as well as Arenanet haven't stolen anything, as stated in the Ncsoft and Arenanet EULA and TOS, former members cannot rejoin, and upon opening an account, you are agreeing to these terms.

If anyone wants to come back that badly, you need to change your service provider, CC number etc. It's doable just as long as you don't have any lingering information that says you had a prior account.

Just don't be stupid enough to bot again.

You know that 90% of the people who got banned for PvP botting just logged in on an alt the next day, right?

Yes they should fix the system so it just doesn't let you purchase it. People need to realize though if you're going down in a bot sweep that's it. Don't try to buy the game again.

And your point is?

It's ridiculous that the person in question was immediately banned on an account he had just bought from the NCSoft store when other people aren't even banned on accounts they already used.

Oh, didn't think about it from that angle.

Probably not. Should not enter in an agreement if they do not intend to honour it.

Its just the system they have in place, I can expect there will be further progress in bots being banned with the increase in staff and the attention anet is giving it now.

It is not the account that is the culprit, it is the person. If one is banned I see it as being the person that is excluded from the game, not just the account.

Buying another account after being banned sounds like plain idiocy, perhaps in the future they should read the EULA of the games they play.

Probably to stop the RTM'er from continuing the cycle.

Gotta love the fine print.

Either way, even if the point here is to ban additional accounts bought by the 'banned', the least ANET could do is restrict them from buying a new account, rather than taking their money and screwing them over afterward.