Costume brawl 2010

My New Name

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

new team every round sweet! cry syncers cry

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

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Originally Posted by Feathermoore Rep View Post
NO. NO. NO. They ruined Christmas!!!! Well technically Halloween, but you get my point.

Completely random teams???? Probably with syncers?? lolwut?

You lose once to a good team, you never see them again. They go on for 100 wins because they are good at the game. Why punish that????

Its a miracle to get more than 3 in a row. People at guildwars are BAD. Thats like rule number one when you're playing any matchmade game with random teammate. (Assume all teammates are bad). Throw in support/defense heavy builds, with two melee train builds (war and sin), and the gameplay becomes just as stagnant as normal pvp.

Its not fun any more. You're now literaly GRINDING the gamer title. Thanks for letting me play with bad kids all day long, and not having any chance to play with the few people that are good.

EDIT - I seriously think we should all go Necro in CB, and just make it a bspike grindfest. Just to show how much Anet messed up.

GTFO Anet. Your making this game worse.
My thoughts exactly.

Space

Space

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2009

UK

No Goats No Glory (BAAA)

The new map is a battlecry slugfest, horrible. Theres no incentive to split. if you do you get picked off as its too easy for a buffed mob to mow down loose players. If you try to outfight them without bc, it'll end in tears. The size is too small as a buffed mob can counter any split on it.

Feels like grinding RA instead of being fun. Maybe it'll get better later on in the holiday.

drkn

drkn

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2009

Wroc??aw, Poland

Midnight Mayhem

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Quote:
The new map is a battlecry slugfest, horrible. Theres no incentive to split. if you do you get picked off as its too easy for a buffed mob to mow down loose players. If you try to outfight them without bc, it'll end in tears. The size is too small as a buffed mob can counter any split on it.
On the contrary, i so far found that most teams mob the morale shrine at the very beginning, so it's safe to spare one of your own group and quickly cap BC. Then the enemy mob has to either run back and recap BC, while the 4 of your teammates can easily cap their morale shrine, or rush the four of yours (having BC on them) for more morale, while one ninja can move from BC on their back to distract them or cap their morale shrine if they get engaged in a fight and run too far away.
Tried out this tactic four times, always proved to work.

Ugh

Ugh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

R/

Yaaaaay Halloween.

I'm gonna play the ranger build until I get frustrated and switch to derv.

Regina Buenaobra

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

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Just a note: currently, the old scoring system (10 points per win) is still in effect. Tomorrow, the new point scheme (15 points per win), as noted in the update notes, will go into effect. We're sorry for any confusion caused.


EDIT: Good news: looks like we're going to update the point system today.

Thevil King

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

i just have to say, gg anet thx for your "special present"

cb is probably the event that me and my friends look forward to the most evry yr. especially so after the deletion of hb/ta. now its pretty much a joke with all this random team sht.

after having played this for about 30 games now and i realized, its even worse than ra.
just one game i have a great team and play a good game, then the next i get some random noobs and lose 20-5. at least in ra the matches are much shorter, but this, cb, is just plain torture.

i am not complaining about losing the match, but rather the fact that i am forced to play with largely brainless ppl who have no understanding of the format. with 1 person alone there is pretty much no way to carry; and when the good players are trying to win, they are completely helpless because the rest of the team acts dumb.

it will take a monumental effort for any decent player to put up with this. the old days of cb where skilled teams play against eachother in epic match ups are gone, thx to this randomized shit.

Space

Space

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2009

UK

No Goats No Glory (BAAA)

Quote:
Originally Posted by drkn View Post
On the contrary, i so far found that most teams mob the morale shrine at the very beginning, so it's safe to spare one of your own group and quickly cap BC. Then the enemy mob has to either run back and recap BC, while the 4 of your teammates can easily cap their morale shrine, or rush the four of yours (having BC on them) for more morale, while one ninja can move from BC on their back to distract them or cap their morale shrine if they get engaged in a fight and run too far away.
Tried out this tactics four times, always proved to work.
If you have team mates able to do this then more the power to you. Just seems that if you are randomising every match ( so you have no time to build a rapore with your team mates ) then having such a small map seems silly as you will more often than not find the team with bc will win such a small map by picking off people who feed the mob.

If a team mobs the bc they can pretty much cap it and cut off any chance of the other team capping both morale points. Speed buff is op in such a small arena imo.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Feathermoore Rep View Post
You lose once to a good team, you never see them again. They go on for 100 wins because they are good at the game. Why punish that????
Gee, I don't know, because random teams should be random?

This really was the next best thing after trying to stop a team from getting a successful sync the first time.

Besides, there's still the Snowball ATS.

Lanier

Lanier

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

[Pink]

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the random team stuff is awesome. Get over it and stop bitching about it.

On a side note, my paragon is very happy at the upgrades this year's build recieved.

Sharkinu

Sharkinu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Romania

Smells Like Bear Spirit [Norn]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Feathermoore Rep View Post
You lose once to a good team, you never see them again. They go on for 100 wins because they are good at the game. Why punish that????.
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Originally Posted by Feathermoore Rep View Post
you never see them again.
o_O Whut? I dont know about you, but I had to fight against the same sync'd team over and over again last year. How is that fair?

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

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I'm starting to get around to the idea. But still, I will forever miss old CB.

On a side note; the sin build this year feels pretty stealthy. Don't know why

hitsuji182

hitsuji182

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Poland

The Autonomy [?????????]

Mo/A

I agree with all negative comments. They wanted good, but it turned to be shit.

Random team every match? Srsly?

Also, who did selection of templates? They are so crappy, kill slow. We don't want codex builds in CB.

Sankt Hallvard

Guest

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thevil King View Post
i am not complaining about losing the match, but rather the fact that i am forced to play with largely brainless ppl who have no understanding of the format. with 1 person alone there is pretty much no way to carry; and when the good players are trying to win, they are completely helpless because the rest of the team acts dumb.
I agree with you that this new CB sucks hard. I also agree that it's filled with terrible players.

But I disagree that this makes it harder for a good player to win, on the contrary it should be easier than ever to carry your fail allies if you are good. Hint: Assume your allies are totally awful(they are) and adjust your decisions and playstyle to them.

The format will get boring pretty fast though since you lack the aspect from previous years where you got to know your allies and started to get some level of teamwork and coordination into your teams.

Thevil King

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard View Post
I agree with you that this new CB sucks hard. I also agree that it's filled with terrible players.

But I disagree that this makes it harder for a good player to win, on the contrary it should be easier than ever to carry your fail allies if you are good. Hint: Assume your allies are totally awful(they are) and adjust your decisions and playstyle to them.

The format will get boring pretty fast though since you lack the aspect from previous years where you got to know your allies and started to get some level of teamwork and coordination into your teams.
idk where you get the idea of easy to carry, especially when your team makes some dumb decisions such as rushing towars a 5v 2 and feeding pts to the other team. tell them to stop: nope, keep feeding. they wont stop until they give 20 pts to the other team.

in that kind of feeding situation, the only thing a good player can do is avoid feeding and outcap. in which case it is impossible because every1 else on the team is getting rolled. try making kills and you get rolled too, because by that time the shrine advantage alrdy belongs to the opponent.

and yes, most likely this format is done for in a couple of days. because i honestly dont know any decent player who can put up with this. at the very least, i know that none of my hb friends would want to play this

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

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Did they fix the points yet?

It will never cease to surprise me how often the TK/Anet misses bugs. I'm sure the TK couldn't see the title being earned, but still.....how do you mess this up if you only change this little?

Crazy. Also, not being able to sync the arena or get consecs makes this arena hardly competitive and mostly boring.

R.I.P. Costume Brawl (at least the one I liked). I'll miss you...

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thevil King View Post
and yes, most likely this format is done for in a couple of days. because i honestly dont know any decent player who can put up with this.
There are a ton of bad players enjoying themselves right now. The format is quite fine without decent players.

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

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What annoys the shit out of me is I have to tell each team how to split. And 80% of the time they don't listen. I loved have a consec team, because we all knew where we went...

Shirayuki Mizore

Shirayuki Mizore

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2010

If only there was some place that people who wanted to play on organized teams with each other could compete...

Oh wait. Hello GvG. :3

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

I like the randomness and switching teams every time. Makes consecutive losses not happen as much. Well, at least for those of us not trying to sync, and hey, maybe this will persuade the syncers to go away?! A boy can dream

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shirayuki Mizore View Post
If only there was some place that people who wanted to play on organized teams with each other could compete...

Oh wait. Hello GvG. :3
Because before this Costume Brawl update we made our teams right?

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by own age myname View Post
What annoys the shit out of me is I have to tell each team how to split. And 80% of the time they don't listen. I loved have a consec team, because we all knew where we went...
It's also slightly annoying to get 4 Flawlesses in a row and then get 4 players who are below lvl 15 who just run around and complain about dying then rage when we're down 15-14 and demand that I resign.

/sigh

Oh, well. Maybe they'll change it again next year.

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
It's also slightly annoying to get 4 Flawlesses in a row and then get 4 players who are below lvl 15 who just run around and complain about dying.

/sigh

Oh, well. Maybe they'll change it again next year.
I know right? Meh, I thought Anet was done trying to make things better, but actually making it worse.

Guess I was wrong

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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oh gosh, look at all the rage from people who have played with other good players for so long that they forgot how to be good on their own and still have fun. I'm am going to feel sooooo bad for you if ANet decides to make this adjustment on all of the random-style arenas (but not really).

Metatail

Metatail

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

You can't fire projectiles (obstructed) through the door leading to both bases on Deepway Ruins. Fix please?

Thevil King

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post

oh gosh, look at all the rage from people who have played with other good players for so long that they forgot how to be good on their own and still have fun. I'm am going to feel sooooo bad for you if ANet decides to make this adjustment on all of the random-style arenas (but not really).
oh gosh, so while pve players can complain about getting rolled in pvp, pvp players can not complain about having to carry a bunch of brainless teammates almost evry single game??

wow, even if anet decides to make this adjustment, really all it does is drive more players away. yes, good players can be good on their own, but that does not mean their fav formats can get dumbed down to rubbish. thats not what good players deserve, and thats not promoting any form of skill either.

Sankt Hallvard

Guest

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thevil King View Post
idk where you get the idea of easy to carry, especially when your team makes some dumb decisions such as rushing towars a 5v 2 and feeding pts to the other team. tell them to stop: nope, keep feeding. they wont stop until they give 20 pts to the other team.

in that kind of feeding situation, the only thing a good player can do is avoid feeding and outcap. in which case it is impossible because every1 else on the team is getting rolled. try making kills and you get rolled too, because by that time the shrine advantage alrdy belongs to the opponent.
Since you can't actually outcap killing speed that's not an option. Obviously if you have 2 people who keeps saccing every time they res you will never win anyway. But if you spot a situation beforehand that you know your allies will lose(say they engage in a fight 2v3 or 2v4) and where you would normally prioritise capping bc or something else you should play on their terms. You may still lose but you might be able to score a kill that you otherwise wouldn't, at the very least you delay your allies death and keep 3/4 of them busy.

Remember the enemy is terrible too, you can "lure" and you can "tank" and you can "gank" just like previous years.

I'm already bored tho. GG Anet, AB is now officially the only playable format.

Artisan Archer

Artisan Archer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Free Wind

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Worst costume brawl bars so far?

Thevil King

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard View Post
Since you can't actually outcap killing speed that's not an option. Obviously if you have 2 people who keeps saccing every time they res you will never win anyway. But if you spot a situation beforehand that you know your allies will lose(say they engage in a fight 2v3 or 2v4) and where you would normally prioritise capping bc or something else you should play on their terms. You may still lose but you might be able to score a kill that you otherwise wouldn't, at the very least you delay your allies death and keep 3/4 of them busy.
wait, exactly how does making a kill and delay allies death help me win when no one else have any idea of how to take advantage of it? you are telling me that i should cap, delay, lure, fight/kill at the same time? wow i might be good but im not superman, nope i not good enough for that apparently.

Quote:
Remember the enemy is terrible too, you can "lure" and you can "tank" and you can "gank" just like previous years.

I'm already bored tho. GG Anet, AB is now officially the only playable format.
yea...lure+tank+gank, doing everything in a game, now why exactly am i doing this when my teammates are running around not having a clue about whats going on?

i agree with you tho about the boredom part. this is a huge dissapointment for me and my friends because it is me who called them up to play cb... but now lol, gg.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

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Meh, it's still fun. I'm just getting tired of having to help people who don't know what they're doing and tired of having to try and carry teams on my Rit. I don't play RA for a reason (unless we're doing an ally sync).

I typically don't mind helping people in PvP, it's practically why I made my guild, but with the limited time it's hard. And I don't like to boss people around, so I feel out of place asking people to split when they're like "LOLWUT'SSPLIT?"

Rits are definitely not made to carry teams,although the utility this year is beautiful.

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

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Originally Posted by Artisan Archer View Post
Worst costume brawl bars so far?
no, most balanced class-per-class costume brawl bars so far

Thevil King

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

in addition, nice new map too. so now we got 2 maps that reward whoever spams the most dmg in a giant mobfest. good strategic capping is practically worth sht. as a matter of fact, coordination is out the window cuz in these 2 maps u just need to make a mob and go around rolling ppl. nice....

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thevil King View Post
thats not what good players deserve, and thats not promoting any form of skill either.
and to that same logic, do bad players learning how to RA "deserve" to face sync teams? because i see a lot of good players who think that they "deserve" to cheat the system by syncing.

Chocobo1

Chocobo1

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

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Necro is once again awful.

The random every game looked good on paper and I was pretty excited, but in practice it's really awful. It's so disheartening when you finally get an amazing team and then next game you get morons who have no idea what to do.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Metal View Post
no, most balanced class-per-class costume brawl bars so far
That's definitely true. Although, they laid into Sins a little too much.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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hey I won a match so now my gamer points are......388! Yes I suck at pvp, yes I am probably the reason your team lost (though I would think that 4 good players and one not so good wouldnt do as badly as 20-2)......so I guess I give up on the costume brawl yet again---too many people yelling NOOB! and other insults, I just want to have a good time, its not all about the winning for me, but guess I am the minority on that----

but it was fun, for a bit.

I Angra I

I Angra I

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Napa, CA

Inadequately Equipped [GeAr]

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
oh gosh, look at all the rage from people who have played with other good players for so long that they forgot how to be good on their own and still have fun. I'm am going to feel sooooo bad for you if ANet decides to make this adjustment on all of the random-style arenas (but not really).
I play online games to play with other people. You should probably go play Oblivion or something if you're that against playing with friends, that you try to mock people who just want to have fun with friends in an online game.

The only reason I've ever played costume brawls was to be able to play with a couple friends and have fun during the event. I don't even care about g4mer pointz or halloween party pack gift bags or whatever rewards they are that they give you. I don't even care about going on a huge amount of consecutive wins. I just want to have fun with my friends. And now that pvers who apparently want to play the entire game by themselves have complained enough, yet another event is ruined by taking the only fun part out of it.

To be honest ANet should just let you play Guild Wars in offline mode, there'd be no difference most of the time. Guild Wars: Single Player Edition

Ninja Dude

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2010

[TIG]

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
not being able to sync the arena or get consecs makes this arena hardly competitive
That's the idea.

But I do agree, R.I.P. costume brawl. The builds this year suck.

Thevil King

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by jazilla View Post
and to that same logic, do bad players learning how to RA "deserve" to face sync teams? because i see a lot of good players who think that they "deserve" to cheat the system by syncing.
i like how you twist this "logic" thing like its some fun game. but no, thats not how real logic works.

furthermore, i like how you equate "good players" with syncing, as if no other bad players synced.

just because some one syncs does not mean they are good, and vice versa. what does that mean? it means skill is still involved if you want to win. does this new change reward that? not compared to the old system.

X CDH X

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

UK

nEo

Mo/E

For CB killing>capping/splitting yea?????

The matches that seem to go well are where we roll the other team and go round in a mob capping and killing.....

I'd much rather have the same team for a couple matches as it was really fun when you got a streak going and people know some good tactics