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Edit (23Dec10): See the section further down in this post for all available info as to ANet's intentions and plans concerning these items.

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I haven't seen this discussed anywhere, so I figured I'd post it here.

For anyone that hasn't done the above quest yet, it's located in Majesty's Rest in a single-level dungeon complex accessed via the shrine where Rotscale and his buddies hang out. The dungeon itself re-uses the Tunnels Under Lion's Arch architecture from EotN.

I did the quest on Tuesday or Wednesday with a guildmate, and got two gold drops - one from a mob and one from the single locked chest in the dungeon. They were both inscribable - a req9 Piercing Axe, and req10 Foehammer.

Here's where it gets interesting. I assume that ANet stuck in a stealth update with the Halloween prep stuff yesterday, because when I did the quest with another guildmate last night, the drops were changed to uninscribable. This time, there were three locked chests (a lot for such a small area). One of the chests dropped a purple rune or something, but the other two resulted in gold staves - both 20/10 and both previously unavailable as uninscribable (afaik anyway). A q12 Protective Staff (Prot rather than Divine), and a q13 Illusory Staff. I only know one person that collects weirdness, so I gave both staves to Luny. But here's the pics:

I'm thinking that maybe that area is also re-using the EotN drop tables, and (theoretically at least) we might see some interesting stuff come out of there. An uninsc Darkwing Defender or one of the other EotN exclusives would be an awfully nice find. Anyone else gotten anything funky?

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EDIT:
Adding the following info for the benefit of everyone who hasn't seen it - thanks to LicensedLuny for assembling it all. I'll add any new info as it becomes available.

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Update Dec. 23, 2010

The triple-mod items (shields, wands and foci with dual inherent mods plus an attached suffix mod) and other drops from the area still exist in game.

ArenaNet is aware of the issue. Regina tells us, "bugged items will not remain in the game." There is no further information from ANet on when that will be or which items will be considered "bugged."

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra, Nov. 1, 2010

We're currently looking into the bug in which players are able to apply 3 mods/inscriptions on items. This is unintended, and we're looking into solutions. I'll give you an update about it as soon as I have more information from the devs.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra, Nov. 24, 2010

Hi, everyone. I have an update from the Live Team about those bugged items. Those bugged items will not remain in the game. They're currently in the testing process for this fix. You may want to salvage the mods on those weapons before this fix goes in. Thanks.

On Nov. 2, 2010 there was an update to "identify" (not remove) the bugged items. No further updates have mentioned these.

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Originally Posted by Update - Tuesday, November 2, 2010

Ran a build to help identify bugged items acquired in the Mausoleum during "Commandeering a Mortal Vessel."

Because these items are subject to some upcoming changes or removals, we are not permitted to buy or sell such items on Guru for the time being.

LicensedLuny

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30 Oct 2010 at 01:31 - 2

Thanks again for my two shiny new weird staffs!

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30 Oct 2010 at 01:57 - 3

it changed with the update that allowed those who do not own eotn to enter-
dunno why but it must be related

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30 Oct 2010 at 02:45 - 4

Very interesting, time to go chest hunting in the Mausoleum!

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30 Oct 2010 at 06:20 - 5

Oww Thansk for the Info! Might actually bother play first time in months now, ofc it can wait till tomorrow but hopefully its still possible then

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30 Oct 2010 at 06:50 - 6

I just finished the quest for the first time on any of my characters (I've been lazy this Halloween, shame on me.) I got all sorts of stuff that shouldn't ever drop inherent. It was all crap, and I merched it. But I took screenshots and will try to get them posted here soon.

It's providing some pretty interesting drop possibilities ... and it's an excuse to go kill Rotscale and dance nekkid upon his dragon island going "neener neener" at his corpse. Not that I ever really needed much of an excuse to do that, but still.

Cheers,
Luny

EDIT - Ok, I snapped screenshots of every drop we got inside The Mausoleum from foes or Locked Chests (all in NM.) I've sorted through them, and these are the only ones which show both
- a skin which is usually only inscribable, and
- has an inherent mod in place of an inscription.
The rest of the drops were either core skins and/or whites/blues without inscription slot or inherent mod. Such tags don't really prove or show anything new, so I didn't bother with them.

Inherent mods on:
- "Elegant Scythe"
- "Duskblade Scythe"
- "Crescent Blades"
- Elonian skin "Crude Axe" (taken from the trade window where my friend showed me his drops. The Tribal Spear next to it was blue due to prefix mod, but it had no inherent mod or insc. slot.)

We got a couple blue and purple "Hypnotic Staff"s with inherent mods, but those can drop in Factions.

FWIW, none of the drops we got in there were inscribable.

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30 Oct 2010 at 11:45 - 7

Got a purple r10 +17 while hexed banded spear and a r9 +19 while hexed pronged spear. Pretty unique. Ran it a few more times but everything else was crap so I just took the reward.

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"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

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30 Oct 2010 at 12:18 - 8

<3

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30 Oct 2010 at 13:21 - 9

got a "feathered flatbow" req11 15^50 inherent....
the name usually only drops inscribable....

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30 Oct 2010 at 14:52 - 10

think its iscriptable only skin

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30 Oct 2010 at 15:17 - 11

wow rly nice staff...........too bad its not 20/20 tho

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30 Oct 2010 at 17:19 - 12

Here's an EotN exclusive:

Stupid grapes D:<

Pretty much all merch fodder on that trip, despite going with a pug of 5 other players. The only gold was a req9 Canthan skin Earth Staff with a 20% disease inherent.

@makosi: That scythe rocks
@LapaEugene: I agree with System - very nice find!

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30 Oct 2010 at 17:29 - 13

hmm i just got an offhand gold with 3 inherent mods oO
cant believe anet will just let this happen....

what do you think will anet do? is it possible to nerf those items? or will they reroll server?

cheers

jimbo32

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30 Oct 2010 at 17:34 - 14

THREE inherents?! Jesus. Care to post a screenie, System?

I can't imagine it'd be possible to apply an inscription nerf to every single item that came from that quest. What happens on a server reroll, exactly?

Btw, I saw on the official wiki where someone said they got a shield with an inherent AND a shield handle.

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30 Oct 2010 at 17:47 - 15

here:

cheers

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30 Oct 2010 at 17:51 - 16

I've been doing this run for some hours with system.fan now, and I quite expect a server reroll until October 28th now. Don't see how else they'd fix it, as they can't just delete/change gold items after they dropped automatically afaik. Won't work as it did with the triple mod greens. I hope I'm wrong, or they can find another way, but deeply smells like a reroll soon.

I got this funny guy:

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30 Oct 2010 at 17:59 - 17

Yeah, you're likely correct, Tody. It's too bad that some stuff is glitched - it wouldn't have been horrible if some new uninsc were introduced so long as they were done correctly. It's a shame that makosi and LapaEugene will probably lose those nice items on a reroll though.

I assume that a reroll means that all progress since that update will be removed? What'll that mean for all the ToT farmers? If the reroll removes everything since 28Oct, there's going to be hell to pay.

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30 Oct 2010 at 18:19 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo32

What'll that mean for all the ToT farmers? If the reroll removes everything since 28Oct, there's going to be hell to pay.

farmers? well not a big loss since tot is worthless crap anyway...

but what will that mean for traders that maybe earned few hundred ectos or something since that =)
or pvp'ers who got ghostly drop or something like that?

guess few ppl would just ragequit GW forever if there'd be a reroll =)

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30 Oct 2010 at 18:21 - 19

You're freaking me out, system. O.O

Has it ever happened before for any reason?

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"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

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30 Oct 2010 at 18:24 - 20

I can't think of a way that they could fix these items (in a reasonable manner) other than a roll back.

I can think of 3 options:

1) Roll back
2) Leave the items in game
3) Somehow detect and delete each glitched item.

Gonna be a tough thinking session for the devs if they even care about this. :P

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30 Oct 2010 at 18:32 - 21

This is awesome! I might try to get some items there! Time to buy some lockpicks! Does anyone know if i can enter this dungeon after doing the quest?

And another important question. Will this dungeon be entirely removed after this halloween? Coz then i have to hurry up

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30 Oct 2010 at 18:33 - 22

If they re-roll, I might just cry. Is this really the only way Anet can fix problems? Besides what Makosi said about detecting and deleting. Why cant they do what they did with uncond wep drops.A rollback should only apply to something massive such as the armbrace duping or ecto's being 100g at trader.

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30 Oct 2010 at 19:12 - 23

+1 for detecting and deleting (or leaving as is, wouldn't mind having three inherent water items

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30 Oct 2010 at 19:25 - 24

is there any way to redo this quest over and over?

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30 Oct 2010 at 19:31 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shy Guy

is there any way to redo this quest over and over?

I guess you could do the quest, abandon and go again. Lots of running to Rotscale though.

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30 Oct 2010 at 19:34 - 26

Alright, cuz I'm doing the first one now, and it's taking forever c.c

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30 Oct 2010 at 20:01 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shy Guy

Alright, cuz I'm doing the first one now, and it's taking forever c.c

We farmed in 20-25min per run. I stopt it now though, because I don't want to stand there tomorrow like "I've done this quest over and over for 20h, not slept at all, and it's all gone". I don't know if it's likely, but certainly quite possible.

PS: SF rush takes 3-4 Minutes to Rotscale

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30 Oct 2010 at 20:03 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by makosi

I guess you could do the quest, abandon and go again. Lots of running to Rotscale though.

You dont even have to abandon it. Just dont click on the final sarcophagous and the quest wont update, saving you a trip to la and loss of hench. this also means that if it isnt patched/rolled back, this can carry on after the event, presuming they dont remove the mausoleum after the end of the event.

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30 Oct 2010 at 20:11 - 29

Purple Uninsc Flame Artifact of Forittude +12 q9 fire magic
armor+ 8 vs undead
fire magic +1 15%
+26hp

Divine Scroll gold Q10 unisnc +12 divine

+HCT healing 19%
+44 encahted

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30 Oct 2010 at 20:34 - 30

Q12 elegant scythe
13(ench)

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30 Oct 2010 at 20:37 - 31

Geez! Way to break GW, jimbo!

A couple things before I get to hunting again myself ...

Ok, those triple modded offhands and wands are awesome! Thank you guys for the pics!

Nice Briarwood makosi - congrats!

As for rollbacks, I don't know. The last rollback I remember was sometime in ... 2005, maybe, when the rune trade npcs reset prices and folks were buying Sup Vigs for a few hundred gold (back when they were more like 80k+ ea.) Several times in the past when there have been glitches creating "overpowered" items like this they haven't had to rollback to fix them. Most recently, it was the glitching WiK greens when they first started dropping. Here is a link to the notes I wrote up for the bug thread about those. Granted, those were cases of fixing specific quest items or greens. I'm not sure what the differences are when fixing random loot drops.

Finally, has anyone submitted an official bug report to ANet about this? I know it's all well and good to go exploring and see what drops, but it would be a shame if folks from this thread were later accused of anything like exploiting a bug. I would report it ... but I hate trying to use the NCSoft report site/system.

Has anyone already saved me the trouble???

I found this thread in the bugs section and left a link to this thread here.

Happy hunting folks!

EDIT - Ok, well I still didn't use that NCSoft support site because ... it makes me nervous. :/ I did add a note to the bug page on wiki here ...

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedb...he_Mausoleu m

I know some people will get all pissy that we let the cat out of the bag and ruined their fun. Well, it's the internet guys - the cat ALWAYS gets out of the bag. I do not want to see anyone get in trouble with ANet for "exploiting a game bug" over this kind of nonsense.

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30 Oct 2010 at 20:39 - 32

Alright I'm a PvE noob so how exactly do chest runs work? I'm using sabway and everyone keeps dying D':

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30 Oct 2010 at 20:40 - 33

There will be NO rollback. I have been farming here for sometime and did NOT want to post screens of the stuff i have gotten yet till after the event. Party poopers you guys are for showing what you got

The items will stay in the game as is. ill bet you my account.

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30 Oct 2010 at 20:45 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by LicensedLuny

As for rollbacks, I don't know. The last rollback I remember was sometime in ... 2005, maybe, when the rune trade npcs reset prices and folks were buying Sup Vigs for a few hundred gold (back when they were more like 80k+ ea.) Several times in the past when there have been glitches creating "overpowered" items like this they haven't had to rollback to fix them. Most recently, it was the glitching WiK greens when they first started dropping. Here is a link to the notes I wrote up for the bug thread about those. Granted, those were cases of fixing specific quest items or greens. I'm not sure what the differences are when fixing random loot drops.

Here's a post of Yawg on my uncond. Thread where he explains the difference between fixing random loot and others. It's just "specualation", I know, but sounds badly still.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleavage

There will be NO rollback. I have been farming here for sometime and did NOT want to post screens of the stuff i have gotten yet till after the event. Party poopers you guys are for showing what you got

The items will stay in the game as is. ill bet you my account.

QQ.

Show us now, Ericz nub!

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30 Oct 2010 at 20:46 - 35

is this even glitched?

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30 Oct 2010 at 21:18 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleavage

There will be NO rollback. I have been farming here for sometime and did NOT want to post screens of the stuff i have gotten yet till after the event. Party poopers you guys are for showing what you got

The items will stay in the game as is. ill bet you my account.

Haha. Ill bet you wanna sell or hold bugged items...

There will be a fix... with or without rollback. They will not stay in the game.

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30 Oct 2010 at 22:06 - 37

well... obey bets they will fix, cleavage bets they won't... so... who will get the loser's account?^^

I'll just farm for a few more hours.... GW doesnt have anything else interesting to do atm anyway.
If they'll fix it... who cares? won't lose anything expect bit time.
If the won't fix it... i might have few cool items

cheers

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30 Oct 2010 at 22:25 - 38

So,u runnin HM or NM?

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30 Oct 2010 at 22:39 - 39

its always NM.... even if you run there in HM it changes to NM when you enter.

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30 Oct 2010 at 22:48 - 40

Oh,didn't know that.

last 5 chests all grape..