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LicensedLuny

Badly Influenced

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Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish

05 Nov 2010 at 23:54 - 41

I've had the same experience with Jade and Amber Staffs. There seem to be a lot of 20/10s around, and even the 20/20s don't seem to fetch more than "core" skin 20/20s ... often less.

I suspect it's because Pleikki and animal fighter oversupply the market opening Kurzick and Luxon chests looking for shields or cookies or something.

Granted the rarity we perceive of each could be a bit biased based on the skins. I know there are a few Jade/Amber fans out there, but there don't seem to be as many as a lot of the other Cantha-only skins.

Cleav, thanks for the clarification earlier. I think I understand the goal now. Have you considered listing criteria in the OP at all? Some kind of statement explaining that we're talking about max gold items with "good" inherent mod like 20/10 or matched 20/19-20 for skins which can't be found with inscription slots?

Cleavage

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[TRDR]

06 Nov 2010 at 05:20 - 42

^^

I shall

This is alot of work and once its finished it will be alot easier to understand fully.

Goddess Of Defense

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One Thirty Three Seven [????????????]

P/W

06 Nov 2010 at 12:15 - 43

Thanks for this list cleave, you were always helpful; came to actually check if my outcast staff collection still had any value on it lol...

N E D M

Desert Nomad

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Gameamp Guides [AMP]

09 Nov 2010 at 02:04 - 44

this is my typical luck on rare staves lol

End

Forge Runner

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N/A

09 Nov 2010 at 03:00 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by N E D M

this is my typical luck on rare staves lol

I kinda know how ya feel

Pleikki

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???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

09 Nov 2010 at 05:10 - 46

hah yeah ive had also few 20/19 Forbid staffs but never 20/20 one

superraptors

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12 Nov 2010 at 05:54 - 47

jade staffs are WORTHLESS unless they are req 8 or 9 with 20/20, hardly sell past 5k, i tried selling a dozen of them which were req9-11 20/10 all sold less then 20k, if they were any where rare id would be rich

LicensedLuny

Badly Influenced

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Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish

12 Nov 2010 at 06:16 - 48

Well, I'm not sure if this list is meant as a PC. I have the impression Cleav is aiming for more of a rarity-based sort here. As we all probably know, rarity does not necessarily track with market value.

Ultimadiorifiamma

Furnace Stoker

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Under the Tower

OdDO

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12 Nov 2010 at 14:51 - 49

......not so lucky for a Q8, but more fortunate than End, N E D M and Pleikki

Ciao,Ultima.

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

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Slovenia

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Mo/

12 Nov 2010 at 17:57 - 50

This is the only good forbidden staff that I ever found.

I found bunch of 20/20 jade staffs while chest running, but none of them sold very high.

system.fan

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Mo/A

12 Nov 2010 at 18:04 - 51

hmm i got 3 req8 10/10 forbidden's (didnt find em myself tho)...
might post pics later if u guys want em....

??iljo

Desert Nomad

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N/

13 Nov 2010 at 08:40 - 52

Joining the 20/19 club xd

system.fan

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Mo/A

13 Nov 2010 at 12:01 - 53

here are my forbiddens:

Captain Krompdown

Desert Nomad

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[PhD]; Brave and Manly Leader

15 Nov 2010 at 19:45 - 54

20/20 dragons

EDIT: Thanks, Morph. I think you requested something like this (dualmod pre-nerf orrish earth staff) a while ago:

system.fan

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Mo/A

15 Nov 2010 at 19:52 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Krompdown

20/20 dragons

wow THOSE are some rly rly impressive staves u got there

I only got those 20/20 dragons:

had a req13domination too earlier but sold it month ago or something....

gw_poster

Desert Nomad

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so cal

R/

15 Nov 2010 at 22:18 - 56

i've had 3:1 drops of gold outcast staves vs. icicle staves...does that make icicle staves rarer than outcast staves? Granted, the four gold outcast staves currently in my sin's inventory are dual-modded such as q9 illusion with 20%hsr and 19%hct spawning, but still.

system.fan

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Mo/A

15 Nov 2010 at 22:36 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by gw_poster

i've had 3:1 drops of gold outcast staves vs. icicle staves...does that make icicle staves rarer than outcast staves?

not rly...
maybe there are more outcast staves than icicles... BUT:

from outcast staves maybe 1 of 10 has a good inherent mod....
from outcast staves maybe 1 of 10 has a good req....
icicle staves are all inscribable which means u can mod em however and as good as u want....

thats why good outcast staves are worth far more than those inscribable drops...

cheers

Cleavage

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[TRDR]

16 Nov 2010 at 07:14 - 58

Plus if you want an Icicle Staff go do Frostmaws and your pretty much guaranteed to see at least 1 person in your party get 1.

tghoodoo

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Eternal Clarity [Ankh]

Me/

18 Nov 2010 at 03:17 - 59

Hey so i was just wondering about the rarity of a Old-school Canthan Evil Eye Staff. i seen that Luny mentioned it on page 1 of this thread, but i don't see any info other than that simple mention of it. just had a pretty good one drop for me and i have no idea bout it.

Pleikki

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???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

18 Nov 2010 at 05:22 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by tghoodoo

Hey so i was just wondering about the rarity of a Old-school Canthan Evil Eye Staff. i seen that Luny mentioned it on page 1 of this thread, but i don't see any info other than that simple mention of it. just had a pretty good one drop for me and i have no idea bout it.

Its not rly worth anything cus its quite common skin. ..

Kabong

Banned

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18 Nov 2010 at 14:25 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Krompdown

20/20 dragons

Yeah, so...Wrapped:

And this one was neglected when Kromp was gathering the images:

Thought I'd just try to make Kromp look proh.

Captain Krompdown

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[PhD]; Brave and Manly Leader

19 Nov 2010 at 04:00 - 62

Man, the guy who got those for you must have enormous genitalia.

Pleikki

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???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

22 Nov 2010 at 17:06 - 63

Uhm i had to write here my most recent exprience with forbidden staves

so i ran around 40 chests in Raisu palace HM and got 12 Gold Forbidden staffs from those 40 chests, i mean i never had even as many jade/amber staffs lol, also suprised me there were 10 diff attri ones..

4 of those were 20/10 and rest crap mixed attris prettymuch

Also ive recently run alot chests in areas which may drop bo/dragon/plat staves, Sofar had 2 dragon 1 plat and 1bo staff (my 2nd gold Bo ever yey!)

Also had 2 gold outcast and few gold plague/cele/cockrats

Those are my most recent expriences

LicensedLuny

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Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish

22 Nov 2010 at 17:23 - 64

Perhaps the Ambers and Jades wind up seeming more common because they drop in more than one map, and those are maps more players are likely to be working on for faction points and such? Pretty much the only reason to be in Raisu is to do the mission, map or vanquish unless you're interested only in chest running, right?

Just a thought.

carnage-runner

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22 Nov 2010 at 20:17 - 65

R9 Fire Cockatrice 20/10? Worth anything?

Pleikki

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???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

23 Nov 2010 at 05:16 - 66

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnage-runner

R9 Fire Cockatrice 20/10? Worth anything?

Go to A PC Section

Nah maybe 20kish

tghoodoo

Wilds Pathfinder

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23 Nov 2010 at 08:04 - 67

dunno though. i gotta q10 celestial fire 20/10 a few months back. sold for 50k. a bit less from that on yurs imo. 20 u could get rid of quick but if u sit on it i think u could get 40. but these days though most ppl are just spending money on hom stuph.... but yeah, this shoulda been more in the PC section. whoops

Pleikki

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???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

23 Nov 2010 at 13:48 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by LicensedLuny

Pretty much the only reason to be in Raisu is to do the mission, map or vanquish unless you're interested only in chest running, right?

Just a thought.

Thats possibly it, but yeah, i ran another 40 there and got again 12 forbid staffs (10 only gold tho QQ), So i guess it wasnt just random luck :P

carnage-runner

Furnace Stoker

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23 Nov 2010 at 19:51 - 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by tghoodoo

dunno though. i gotta q10 celestial fire 20/10 a few months back. sold for 50k. a bit less from that on yurs imo. 20 u could get rid of quick but if u sit on it i think u could get 40. but these days though most ppl are just spending money on hom stuph.... but yeah, this shoulda been more in the PC section. whoops

Was asking if it was worth anything, not how much. It says it's tier 4 on Eric's list but other tier 4's r9 20/10 sell for much more than what my research says a cockatrice staff gets. I guess rewording my post would have been better.

Is it really tier 4 value..?

jimbo32

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23 Nov 2010 at 20:19 - 70

I'm fairly sure that Cleavage has already said that it's about pure rarity, not value. There is sometimes a correlation, but not always. Value often has just as much to do with skin popularity - for instance, there's a shitton of BDS's around due to all the farmers, but they're still worth a lot.

If Cleav's tiers were sorted by value rather than rarity, they'd look quite a bit different imo.

Masacru Ak

Wilds Pathfinder

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Romania

No Guild

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23 Nov 2010 at 23:54 - 71

This is what i got , one Holy Branch 20/20 Q9 Divine favor / Another is 20/20 Prot Q10 Divine Holy. As for others staves, 1 Outcast 20/10 earth , some 20/10 Amber (fire ,illusion, Df) , Celestial 20/10 ( fire channeling).

Cleavage

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[TRDR]

25 Nov 2010 at 03:23 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo32

I'm fairly sure that Cleavage has already said that it's about pure rarity, not value. There is sometimes a correlation, but not always. Value often has just as much to do with skin popularity - for instance, there's a shitton of BDS's around due to all the farmers, but they're still worth a lot.

If Cleav's tiers were sorted by value rather than rarity, they'd look quite a bit different imo.

Correctamundo `1234abcd

Gutemuh

Lion's Arch Merchant

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17 Jan 2011 at 02:47 - 73

Sry, posted in the wrong topic.

But never the less this deserves an up.

Muh

Dimmuborgir Satan

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???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Rt/

25 Jan 2011 at 18:13 - 74

wintergreen staff under tier 5?

The Baphomet

Lion's Arch Merchant

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25 Jan 2011 at 19:26 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimmuborgir Satan

wintergreen staff under tier 5?

Wintergreen should be in the last group. It was a reward for GvG tournament in Wintersday '06.

I think tiers 1-5 reflect drop rate instead of how many exist.

superraptors

Grotto Attendant

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25 Jan 2011 at 20:53 - 76

ive seen far more dragons and bo's then plats, should be seperate.

plagueborn should be knocked down a couple of tiers its very very common.

Taya

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28 Jan 2011 at 00:29 - 77

Yeah....just found that thread by searching for a staff.
So, wanted to ask about a Winged Staff Oldsql 20/19 Smite.... and Also winged Staffs in general. Havent seen much in Oldsql.

Btw, i agree with superraptors, platinum staffs are quite rare to find with any usefull mod.
dragon staff have become quite common, platinums are still really rare.

expugnare

Desert Nomad

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Houston, TX

The Academy [PhD]

E/A

29 Jan 2011 at 19:54 - 78

According to Pleikki, after he sold to me <3333333333333333333333, this dropped for a friend yesterday?

W/e, even if not, I'm happy as a clam.

Captain Krompdown

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30 Jan 2011 at 10:00 - 79

There are many more 20/20 platinum staves floating around than 20/20 dragons. This is even considering the recent popularity of dragon staves, which should've brought more specimens to light but has not. 20/20 dragons are (as those of us who actually look for them know) the rarest staves in the game.

Pleikki

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???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

30 Jan 2011 at 10:33 - 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Krompdown

There are many more 20/20 platinum staves floating around than 20/20 dragons. This is even considering the recent popularity of dragon staves, which should've brought more specimens to light but has not. 20/20 dragons are (as those of us who actually look for them know) the rarest staves in the game.

Well my statictics are based on drops me & my friends had.

Personally overall like 20/10 ones even. had 3-4 dragons. 0 plats and 0 Bo's

And had way more dragons dropping then bo/plat, and for the skins the change it being 20/20 should be same. as they drop for same attris etc.

Just guess for dragon staffs most ppl just keep em. when ppl rather sell bo/plat..

Tho good bo's are way more common then dragon for sure. AS Bo's quite easyly farmable when plat & dragon aren that easy, even tho posible