Rarity - Staff Skins

I've not got a fire req, only got these:

20/20 Curses
20/20 Death
20/20 Blood

Yep it was yours - and I should still have it around somewhere - at least I hope I kept it, but can't seem to find it offhand though. I don't know why I would have gotten rid of it....

stay on topic!!!

Hey, and what about req 8 bo staves? Never seen any except this one
i used to own (sold for 50k 2yrs ago, wish i kept it)



Sorry for the french screen, the staff is req 8 death magic.

^^ I dont see HSR mod on it.

It seems to be a Pre Nerf Staff With no HSR or HCT Mod.
Don`t know anything about req 8 Bo Staffs - nowadays rare for sure.
Think req 8 Bo Staffs are rarer than req 8 Plat and Dragon Staffs. Don`t think that there is any req 8 Post nerf Bo Staff.

Damn that staff is weird. I reckon people would pay good money for randomness like that...

This is fairly amusing I must say, I happen to own a req8 death magic Platinum Staff without a HSR mod on it either.
Concerning the Bo Staves, I too have never seen a req8 one wether it is pre or post-update.

There was a bo staff r8 divine 10/10 that was floating around a long time ago.

Lol, I said that in a post which I later removed cause I didn't find the pic... Thought it was just my memory playing tricks on me^^ Turns out it wasn't

Does anybody know of any Q8 10/10 (pre-nerf), 20/10 (post-nerf), or 20/20 (post nerf) Raven Staves? I know there's a Q8 Death 10/10 (just bought it from Jason, tyvm!) and a Q8 Smite 10/10 (currently has a PC thread). I might start an epic Raven Staff collection if I get a few more...

~Tru

Nop not really..

Sry Tru - but you never will finish this epic Raven collection =)
Cause i still own a req 8,10/10 Blood Raven, req 8,9/9 Death Raven And never will sell them
(and a req 9,10/10deaht Raven - but its only req 9 so..)

this is how i see non-inscript staffs according to rarity

very rare tier:
dragon
platinum
obsidian earth

rare tier:
bo staff

uncommon:
ghostly staff
plagueborn
celestial
zodiac
canthan elemental staffs
crystallized earth staff

common:
Raven
Jade
Amber
(insert every other skin here)

Raven is at least as rare as plagueborn-zodiac-ghostly-celestial.
And crystallised earth is common as dirt in prophecies.

raven is like the most common staff skin in proph

They most certainly are not imo. The only place they have a decent droprate is in the southern shiverpeaks, and people chest/farm there alot less than in canthan areas. I do remember getting them alot back in the days, but from recent experience they really don't drop often. Apart from the orrish staff there aren't any real rare staff skins in prophecies, but raven makes a good second (tied with twin serpent maybe).

They drop like candy in white yes, but gold ones are rather rare if you ask me..

i agree, and you can say exactly same for the bo staff, they drop in white all the time.

Troll Cave. Ravens drop there in gold... Spend a day you'll get a few. Seeing as I used to live there I will vehemently disagree with the rarity of Ravens staves. Since tons of people used to troll farm griffen farm tundra giant farm.... Those staves drop a lot from those enemies, and they are extremely easy to farm.

That is all. Superraptors list is fairly good imo. Forgotten is fairly uncommon. Only end game factions.

What about outcast staves?

Just because you can farm one location and get a lot of X skin staff doesn't make it common. I did the Minister Cho's Estate zmish in HM a few days ago on most of my characters, with 3 heroes in the party each time. I got one gold Bo Staff, two purples and far too many blues and whites. If I farmed that mission/area I'm sure I could get several in one day. That doesn't make Bo Staves common, however. Rarity is based off of how many exist and/or drop in the entire GW population. Just because a few of us could potentially farm Troll cave or Shing Jea HM all day doesn't make gold Raven and Bo staves common; just farmable.

~Tru

Tru... My point is that many people farmed southern shiver for years. The existence of perfect ravens is evident as they are around. The likely hood that hundreds upon thousands of golds that dropped had meh stats and were merched is, in my opinion, quite high. I know I personally have seen far too many to count from when I used to farm trolls all day. I also know that a large amount of people farmed these areas, so it wasn't just a small population, it was a rather large one. Thus, I don't consider it insanely rare... No one does much in the southern shivers anymore unfortunately. Maybe if we had community wide nostalgia days and got together in teams of 8 and went around certain areas just indiscriminately killing shit for an hour or two a day... I'm saying have days devoted to farming areas throughout the week, and get huge numbers from guru to participate. Maybe some of the rarer staves/weapons would start dropping. Just an idle thought as I do this with my 4 accounts a lot and have been getting some funny drops as of late.

Carnage.

Alot of people did farm trolls and they did drop alot, but that was 4 years ago.
And I never claimed them to be incredibly rare, just rare. If you ask me you'll end up with more gold zodiac staves after a day of urgoz and deep than raven after a day of troll farming. Adding to that the fact that people still do deep and urgoz.

It wasn't 4 years ago! Don't ruin my nostalgia. It was only yesterday....

But srs.

I still don't think of them as rare.. maybe uncommon but, meh. If it was a day of southern shiver farming with 8/8 vs deep/urgoz full team farming... Just drops. I agree more zodiacs... the team size is also larger though so yea.

And true, people still do deep and urgoz, not so much with trolls since that stupid update with the drop scaling crap.

Deep is easy doable with 7H. Im doing it regularly because i love it - but drops are not worth of my time
In few years i never get 20/20 zodiac staff.

Bo Staffs

As far as what we're seeing "a lot" of new supply come to market lately, I think you might rate Bo Staffs as a little less rare. I'm told Cho farming is extremely popular with many players and quite well documented on PvX; a friend of mine does a lot of it and lets me ID all his golds for the title points. We see a lot of gold Bo Staffs (usually with stats that make them nearly merchfood, sure, but gold Bo Staffs nonetheless.) From what I've heard, the friend in question seems to have unusually good luck with gold drops there, but I think it's safe to say he does enough of it to have a pretty good sample of his own loot. Rough guess would be that he's been passing me about 10-12 unid gold items from Cho's per day, on the days he's not doing something else with his GW time. This has been going on since I got back to GW from an extended break last Halloween. There's usually at least one gold Bo Staff in every two batches, and it's not particularly rare to see more than that.

Likely relevant and of interest to this discussion, we do seem to see a lot of gold Bo Staffs without a max base. Quite a few of them have 19HSR and/or 11-21 damage instead of max, although they're all r9 or higher. Despite that tendency, I'm not sure it's reasonable to keep considering Bos in the higher rarity rankings with all the people farming there these days.


But you agree that Southern Shiv farming is rather unpopular these days? So would it be a fair possibility that the bulk of the "nice" Ravens were from those old days and they're more likely to now be resting on inactive accounts, effectively removed from the current market? It certainly doesn't seem like we see many new Raven Staffs come up for sale these days.

omg /signed!!! That sounds like fun ... and utter chaos, too!

My Cho farming buddy recently took a break to caravan-vanquish some areas in Ascalon with his precious slav .. er, heroes. In the batch of golds to ID from his adventures that day, there was an r12 20/10 inherent Obsidian Earth Staff. It's the first "nice" modded inherent Orrish I've ever held, and one of the few anything-modded inherent versions I remember seeing drop at all - I was all giddy about it. He let me keep it. He thinks I'm a big dork, but he thought that already anyway. So now I have a snazzy new res-shrine staff to console me.

o.O !!! Dude. Nice staff. oh nice staff. I got an r11 core fire staff 20/20 from Hell's Precipice chest runs. 80 lockpicks on HM and I didn't get 1 mag... Depressing stats imo. With regards to the farming thing, I think it would be really cool to have a weekly event on guru. Where a huge group of people goes out to a given territory in Tyria/Cantha and just farms. NM/HM doesn't matter to me. Just going out and killing everything. In effect... Huge team vanquishes of odd areas. Areas around ToA in NM and HM. RoF island chain. Southern Shiver. Ascalon. End game cantha. The Deep/Urgoz. Jade Sea. Echovald Forest.

I suspect if we had a few dozen people doing this we'd at least see a couple cool drops. Some 20/20 staves for sure, maybe some perfect shields. But I'm dreaming... Time to wake up. *SLAP*

*cough* pick up NM Defend Droks on one of your alts and go chest running = titan + so. shiv loot potential *cough*

Pardon me. It's dusty in here.

I can't speak for others, but it sounds like the sort of thing I'd be interested to at least try ... if I saw a place telling me when/where and how to sign up ... the sort of place someone motivated would have to take on the role of lead organizer. *cough*

id join aswell

*cough* I'll have to try that. *cough* Pick up NM Defend HoD... R8 white 16AL mag last month... gave me dirty ideas that i've yet to pursue... *cough*

It has begun.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/k...t10501754.html