Hearts of the North - the next Guild Wars Beyond chapter

I will bring some QQ again , but all these missions are kinda same to be honest. Same objective , kill 5 mobs each 3 steps , same reward.....

I kind of noticed this, too. Except for defending the Krytans, I'm having a hard time remembering which was which. Follow a path and kill some enemies... But it was still new content that added to the storyline, so I enjoyed it.

I just finished all HotN quests.Cant wait for the wedding.

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gwen is MINE, MINE I SAY MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I find it kinda sad that some *cough* players here see the new lore quests as mandatory and moan about it because they either don't want to do it once or whine that they "have" to do it on all their other characters aswell. I seriously wonder why they even bother playing this content, no one is forcing you and you don't miss out on anything besides the lore by ignoring the quest chain.

On a more positive note: I enjoyed these quests a lot, playing as keiran was a lot of fun. It wasn't really hard, but it doesn't need to as the quest chain's main purpose is guiding us through the lore while having a bit of fun playing a character with a unique skillset.

I really hope to see more of these unique things, thumbs up for anet.

Was earlier in this thread ;D

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=114

First Keiran Quest Vanguard Points Grinding Guide:

• Wait a while for the first group to become hostile. Kill them.
• Use some kind of a speed boosting consumable.
• Run past all foes to find Danthor.
• Kill his puppets.
• Rinse and repeat!

maybe i'll do these missions a lot to farm the ebon points , as i don't like farming their areas :d

I cant belive it,i killed Rotscale for the first time !

I wonder if killing Rotscale during these quests counts for Zaishen Bounty.

Already been noted several pages back

But it was his first time ever.

I have a strong feeling that the new Hero is Keiran.... however, it is Keiran not as a ranger hero, but as a paragon.

1) It is "not what we would expect" as promised - a twist, yet directly connected to the story, in the way no other alternative is.

2) Keiran's gradual acquisition of Paragon skills is linked with his change of character in the story - and reinforced in his proposal to Gwen by him identifying himself as a changed man of leadership - one who is going to have to lead the Ebon Hawke by the way, with Langmar conveniently dead. It is all the more notable that all of Keiran's "ranger" skills are made up, while the Paragon skills are number tweaked variants of actual player paragon skills - I.E. we might not recognize them as "paragon" skills if they didn't come from skills we already knew, meaning that the team wanted to communicate an actual movement towards paragonhood.

3) Their GW2 descendant, Logan Thackery, is likely from the second unannounced soldier class, whose concept art and screenshots strongly suggest the "noble knight" archetype often played out by paladins, etc. Paragons are the closest aesthetic match in GW1, with their hybrid martial and party-supportive nature, and identity as leaders (Kormir/Morgan) and the English word associations ("paragon of virtue" etc.) Basically then this change brings greater continuity to Logan as the heir to the legacy of Keiran, and therefore GW1 and GW2.

4) We might see this is an overall plan to gradually furnish players with 3 heroes of every profession, which could actually matter when full hero parties arrive. That likely has priority over adding 4th heroes of existing classes. This would be one strategy for the "enhanced rewards" promised for Winds of Change - the devs already commented how they see a hero as something "better than an aesthetic reward" for Keiran's quest line, so it is likely part of their plans for the future. It also sets up ritualist and assassin heros as the two of the last three classes to become 3 heroes, which is extremely appropriate for Canthan content to supply us with.

5) Miku hinted that Keiran *might* meet her again - not that they will or won't. While it is certainly possible that this is setting up future determined storyline interactions between the two, it could also hint that the "meeting" is in the form of Keiran optionally serving as a hero in your party, working alongside Miku in the Cantha chapter - and indeed Miku herself might become a hero after some progress through said content.

6) Keiran having the possibility to serve as a hero alongside Gwen - and therefore in the same "group" and "class" as Gwen - is also a very strong way to communicate their new married union to the player.

The new hero will be the ghost of Captain Langmar.

So sad that she didn't make it

That would be the single most amazing hero ever

Even if this turns out to not be true, this is a brilliant notion.

Thanks for the new content Anet. I can understand some angst from the poeple who were getting stuck with quest progression (ie finding the objects were missing), but the other boo boys who seem to hate anything new for little reason at all just need to get over themselves.

Personally I was fairly lucky - the only time I went into an area and the object wasn't there was the first one, and that was because I hadn't gone outside the HoM to talk to the guy who says go find Thackery. I had 2 sets of looped speeches but was able to go straight out and find the next item.

Possibly. The sad thing is though that's almost as bad as a sin or ranger hero.

Well Gwen is currently the captain of the Ebon Vanguard and I doubt that she'll give that position to her future husband (we all know how b**chy she can be).

Also Keiran could return in Cantha like he did (and others NPCs) in the WiK : find him, convince him to come and he appears in one or two missions.

ANet is full of surprises, so you may be right.

Please, for the love of Grenth, no.

Why not? I've been trying to run paraway teams since EotN came out, and I have to sub in Pyre as a R/P...

I'm really looking forward to Lawyers of the North: the Divorce Settlement.

I am thinking a honeymoon in Cantha for the happy couple. This would help start out the GW:B Factions content quite nicely.

Said Stumme.

No Miku or Keiran there, i guess.

Yeah, it was confirmed that the new hero is not a Ranger or Assassin, so....

There wouldn't be much originality and use of adding a new traditionnal hero ( i.e war , mes , w/e...). It would be fun to use it a few days , but then people would go back to discord or just not use it because it would be useless...

Just noticed that one of the two characters I actually got to this point still had the Rotscale bounty in her log.

Killing him as Thackeray does not count. :-\

A great analysis all around. An extra paragon will be great when we have 7 hero parties, as it will then be possible to make some great physical builds with Orders etc., without having to rely on the awful melee AI.

Except that Winds of Change will be giving us the opportunity to completely fill our party with heroes, or at least the ability to add 7. Besides, not everyone uses Sabway or Discordway.

I finished all the little missions/quests...when/where's the wedding?

I've never even touched discord. It's hardly needed........for anything.

Absolutely, but still...let me quote my favorite pop culture bible again:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...GamingSyndrome

It's the main reason why every single patch is widely hated, no matter what is changed.

Thanks for that drkn (and Stumme), now I know I can just do it on the character(s) I feel like doing it on.

You better not put your hair back...
W-What?

Is that it for now? Or am i missing something?..

I like Keiran's hair in the pony tail.

gtfo Gwen.

Sorry to say. The Wedding has officially been cancled. There are many reasons for this;

• All of the Alcohol for the reception afterwards was consumed by the Norn who were supposed to guard it from the Dwarves.
• The bride ran off like a berserker, screaming obsenities that even made the Norn blush, chasing after Pyer shortly after he told her that he would name his kittens Keirian and Gwen in honer of the Bride and the Groom.
• The Wedding coach was moddified by the Assurans and promtly blew up because the power copplings were apparently not supposed to be connected in series.
• and last but not least; The Groom is missing and in a bad mood because he was charged with littering by the LAPD (Lions Arch Police Department). Hes currently serving social labour time by running around Kryta picking up all the Arrow heads, Emblems and what not that he carelessly threw away in the past few weeks.

EDIT:

Forgot to add one.

• Only Ogden is able to join the Wedding celebration because all of the other Dwarves are currently in Drug rehab after overzealous Officers had a misunderstanding about the Dwarven version of "we are all stoned ".

^ ^
That...and Miku told Gwen she was having Thackery's baby.

Who isn't having Thackery's baby...

all the male chars? xD

Lol! You win. What you win, I have no idea.....