Update - Thursday, November 18, 2010 (updated)

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

The costumes are a bit pricier for the full pack this time around because there's more costumes than in previous ones. So yeah, it's going to cost a bit more.

Elnino

Elnino

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

In a house

Proof Of A Nets Laziness[HB]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Narsilik View Post
Make sure you talk to the scout outside of the EotN. I think this might be necessary to do the first of the quests. Also, make sure you've seen all the dialogues in the HoM and elsewhere.
It's not required. I've managed to do both of the quests without ever seeing this scout. Must be some kind of bug that's causing the problems.

Xiaquin

Xiaquin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2010

[aRIN]

R/

I don't want to stumble on any spoilers in this thread since I haven't finished the new stuff, but to anyone that returns to Gwen and sees her repeating dialogue in an endless loop, rezone in the HoM. I went out and the next item didn't appear. I had to go back and made sure she didn't bug out. A bit annoying when doing it the hard way without wiki.

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by keli View Post
"Adjusted the difficulty of "The Battle for Lion's Arch"

When the noobs start to cry....
Alltough I hate people calling a noob..
It was a challance to do it. Why change it.. If those who couldn't do it, joint
propper guilds it would be even fun... Why o why ??

The worst part is... And don't get me wrong couse every extra quest is a bonus. But every time when there is a update for some reason I allways
check the number of hero's I can ad... but again owell.
Better luck next time.

And good job at the quests. not so good at the Change of the battle

Raynb

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Verene View Post
The costumes are a bit pricier for the full pack this time around because there's more costumes than in previous ones. So yeah, it's going to cost a bit more.
Pricier and people with male characters only (like me) went out losing. 3 Costumes for female characters and 2 for male ones, nice...

Clobimon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carboplatin View Post
Anyone tried BLA? How is it easier?
From my perspective the biggest change, or the most evident, was that they split up the final wave bosses - instead of the mega huge last wave with three. There is still some challenge to it, when done with cheerios at least. I get the feeling that people complaining are doing so without giving it another go, but rather just going off the update sentence itself.

Honestly, should the GW:B new content be so challenging that a majority of the casual players get too frustrated to play it? I understand we hardcore gamers enjoying some tougher areas, but again, is THIS content the appropriate place to employ such a thing? I don't believe it is. With this update, even when said to be easier, I actually still believe that BfLA and probably Temple are near the peak of difficulty when we're talking about the kind of content it is - which is new stuff for everyone to experience and a tie to GW2.

Life Bringing

Life Bringing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Fissure of Woe

[LOD]/[GS]/[DL]/[LOD*]

N/P

BLA HM became a joke after this update. It was the one area in the game that you could h/h that had yet to be completed h/h, and its sad to see the challenge gone. First thing i did when i logged on today was h/h it in HM, and i complete it on my first try =\. It's depressing really to see a bit of challenging content toned down to such an extent because people cant learn to play the game after 5 years.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I think if they just had uped the level of the henchies that would have been sufficient for most peeps having troubles with bla---and infuse them.

Have yet to try the new easy mode, but if the other new quests turn up something worth more than medals of honor and war supplies (xp and gold coins) I might just finish on one of the others.

Deviant Angel

Deviant Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

On a boat!

Homeless.

Mo/

Love the wedding dress! Hate the glitch!

It's a problem we have seen with a lot of armors over the years, but this dress should probably be fixed since it costs nearly $10. I don't usually play zoomed in, so it's a little annoying.

zidane888

zidane888

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Seattle WA

[Oops]

W/R

It's not a glitch. I'ts a bellybutton.

Apok

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by zidane888 View Post
It's not a glitch. I'ts a bellybutton.
If it was having its period, maybe.

Jeydra

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Life Bringing View Post
BLA HM became a joke after this update. It was the one area in the game that you could h/h that had yet to be completed h/h, and its sad to see the challenge gone. First thing i did when i logged on today was h/h it in HM, and i complete it on my first try =\. It's depressing really to see a bit of challenging content toned down to such an extent because people cant learn to play the game after 5 years.
I just tried it, and I completed it H/H in my first try too running subpar builds and subpar tactics. Wiped a few times alright but was never really threatened. Although I don't mind BLA HM being toned down (remember pre-nerf BLA HM?), I think it was toned down too much.

It's still reasonably challenging, but I'd put it as an easier area compared to Forgewight HM.

Deviant Angel

Deviant Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

On a boat!

Homeless.

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zidane888 View Post
It's not a glitch. I'ts a bellybutton.
Har har har! *smack*

It's annoying.

Narsilik

Narsilik

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

Necessary Evil

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by w00t! View Post
Is there anything that causes the scout to appear? He's been there for one char, not 3 others. All have finished EoTN. No idea what prerequisites are for the "A good Deed" quest..
The prerequisites for all of this stuff is that you must have completed ALL of the War In Kryta stuff. If you see Gwen's last dialogue about Keiran going missing, then you know you're done.

Anduin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Verene View Post
The costumes are a bit pricier for the full pack this time around because there's more costumes than in previous ones. So yeah, it's going to cost a bit more.
1 extra costume for an extra 50% price increase.

Totally makes sense.

FyrFytr998

FyrFytr998

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Connecticut USA

[ITPR]

W/

Now if they would just update again to fix the Salma not giving quests bug we can all get along.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anduin View Post
1 extra costume for an extra 50% price increase.

Totally makes sense.
Well, yeah. It does. Sucks for those that have only guy characters (and hopefully they'll change that), but it's simple math. A two-pack is usually $10, and considering the individual prices of each set, $15 for a three-pack is perfectly logical.

Bodock

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2009

dirty ballsack

[emd]

W/

They give a tuxedo for female but not a wedding dress to male?

NerfHerder

NerfHerder

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2010

So I got the new costumes this morning and now I see what everyone is talking about. The male characters got robbed. I understand the 2 versions of the wedding set. At least you dont have to waste a black dye. But the dapper and formal sets are exactly the same. There was no point in giving us both. Was the dapper set supposed to be black? That would make since.

EDIT: I'm happy with the way it looks, I always am with Anets art/costume design. And the female costumes are amazing, if your into that kind of thing. Gj as always, but a duplicate set?

Warbog The Slayer

Warbog The Slayer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2008

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Narsilik View Post
One last thing for now:

For those of you who are having trouble getting Gwen to shut up so you can continue on with the quests, sit in the hall for a bit letting her gargle up the same speech over and over again. After awhile, go out and come back in. Then the dialogue should go through it's normal course of one go-through and you should be able to continue on again.

If this is the case, I'm wondering if perhaps the third item is under the same conditions as the second, in which, when Gwen is in a never-ending loop, said item does not spawn as it would normally when Gwen only goes through her speech a single time.
tnx this worked for me

Deviant Angel

Deviant Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

On a boat!

Homeless.

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodock View Post
They give a tuxedo for female but not a wedding dress to male?
hehehe

As humorous as the mental image of a big beefy wammo in a wedding dress is, I don't think Anet wants to open that can of worms.

On the topic of cost, I'm fine with paying $15 for the complete set. I'm female and so are all my characters. I got three costumes to choose from. I can't say that I'd feel so great about my purchase if I was a guy and only played male characters. Their outfits aren't bad... they just don't look very different and there's only two.

I guess there's always the option of buying one set, but I'd avoid the wedding one because of the $3 extra that you have to pay for the shinies on it.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deviant Angel View Post
That's a lot of pink!

I love how even your bags are dyed pink...

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

I'm really starting to hate the direction GW is moving.

There has been a lot of work on costumes, and we've only seen one significant skill update in 6 months. The content is starting to seem less like GW and more like....fan service.

I feel like I'm getting farther and farther away from whatever the hell Anet thinks their target audience is.

Fillyra

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

I like new content and new costumes. I don't know if this particular costume set caught me on a bad week or something but I just can't bring myself to buy it because I feel as though it's not exotic or fantasy-ish enough T_T;;

I loved the other costumes but I can't imagine any of my characters using any of these costumes though. D'oh.

EDIT:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
I'm really starting to hate the direction GW is moving.

There has been a lot of work on costumes, and we've only seen one significant skill update in 6 months. The content is starting to seem less like GW and more like....fan service.

I feel like I'm getting farther and farther away from whatever the hell Anet thinks their target audience is.
This too, a part of me also doesn't want to support Anet until they at least address some of the major frustrations in the game lately

and at least deliver the dervish update...

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

Double-Edged sword for sure. I am happy for all of the people that like the costumes and such, and the new content for WiK/Crisis in Cantha is awesome, but that doesn't change the fact that there has been only 1 significant skill update since the TK started a year ago.

We were told we were getting a skill update every 2 months and that it was feasible to do every two months because of the TK. What happened with that?

I am completely stoked and completely let down at the same time.

P.S. The new male Mesmer armor is really cool.

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

As stated in my early post *points downward* my ranger is still having this issue. Has anyone else gotten this too? is it a bug or is it rotten luck for me?




okay this is bugged too. my ranger was on the second WiK quest so i grabbed the thing from murro in la. it made me do a few dialogs and now its saying kill these mantle. but i already killed them and turn in the quests. so i dropped the wik quest and now i cant get it back. and the log is still not updating. ;/

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

Paragons still suck. Even in tuxes.

I'm starting to sympathize with those who don't like this new direction, but as long as the costumes are kept optional and are accompanied (or preempted) by new content, I'll be alright. I just hope the Keiran quests are going somewhere good. Seems like they are so far.

Chrissie Quickdraw

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2010

We are Maligned

R/

Still have 2 toons to take thru WiK and was wondering about something now.

After 7 toons in total allready thru it I kinda got into a groove to "jumpstart" WiK with the dialogs. I'd witness them in the following order as soon as EotN was finished :
- Port to vloxen and witness Zinn's Trial.
- Port to EotN and rezone into the HoM to go thru all of Gwen/Thackery's stuff
- Do the scavenger hunt
- Watch final Gwen/Thackery dialog.
- Move to the Shinning Blade Camp and watch 3 dialogs (Initial one, Livia/Evennia leaving, Livia returning with the Asura) skipping quite a few here
- Port back to Eotn and watch Evennia meeting the Ebon guys.
- Port to LA and enter the keep, watch the Ebon folks ariving and it was quest time!

Now after all that blabla, what I'm wondering, is this still possible at all, or are these guiding quests actually going to prolong it all by forcing me to watch stuff between quests ?

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove View Post
Paragons still suck. Even in tuxes.

I'm starting to sympathize with those who don't like this new direction, but as long as the costumes are kept optional and are accompanied (or preempted) by new content, I'll be alright. I just hope the Keiran quests are going somewhere good. Seems like they are so far.
Someone needs to make a screenshot of a gay paragon marriage.

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage View Post
Someone needs to never, EVER make a screenshot of a gay paragon marriage.
Fixed for ya .

Although a Paragon in a tux might look pretty suave. My Paragon is a prettyboy anyway with his shaggy, silver hair.

Ghull Ka

Ghull Ka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle, WA

Grenths Helpdesk

N/

So at first I was like "lol, i'm not the kind of person who wants to put their video game toon in a wedding dress, i won't buy these!"

Then I was like "oh snap, a top hat. that's like one of my most requestd item! i will buy these!"

But then I was like "this top hat does not have a monacle! wtf??! i won't buy these!"



And that's my story. ;-)

Clobimon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghull Ka View Post

And that's my story. ;-)
That is a very moving story. Thank you for sharing.

I did get the wedding pack mainly because I... well, I don't know why. Because I could I suppose - and I do like the wedding couple dress. I must admit that the tuxedos seem a bit out of place but oh well.

go cubs

go cubs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

Chicago

[SIR]

D/

So new build so im guessing the 3rd one was added. Meh with the costumes, too expensive for not that great costumes but whatever. Really want a skill update or something but i guess new content is alright

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghull Ka View Post
So at first I was like "lol, i'm not the kind of person who wants to put their video game toon in a wedding dress, i won't buy these!"

Then I was like "oh snap, a top hat. that's like one of my most requestd item! i will buy these!"

But then I was like "this top hat does not have a monacle! wtf??! i won't buy these!"



And that's my story. ;-)
That's similar to my story. I'm a huge nerd, but I'm just not nerdy enough to buy wedding clothes.

If the top hat had a monocle and a mustache, I would sell my third testicle to buy it.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
I'm really starting to hate the direction GW is moving.

There has been a lot of work on costumes, and we've only seen one significant skill update in 6 months. The content is starting to seem less like GW and more like....fan service.

I feel like I'm getting farther and farther away from whatever the hell Anet thinks their target audience is.
PvE doesn't need skill updates, at least not as badly as it needs content. Content is what gets people playing. Seems like you're the one who needs to rethink what the "target audience" of GW is.

Not saying that I like PvP getting neglected (though, you did just get an update that fixed quite a few persistent issues...), but if they're going to favor one mode over another, they're going to favor PvE.

Apok

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

Third item is in Ettin's Back, somewhere behind Ventari's Refuge. Look for a sword.

Ghull Ka

Ghull Ka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle, WA

Grenths Helpdesk

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
That's similar to my story. I'm a huge nerd, but I'm just not nerdy enough to buy wedding clothes.

If the top hat had a monocle and a mustache, I would sell my third testicle to buy it.
Spot on, wot!

/equip Gorrel's Cane
/putontheritz

hitsuji182

hitsuji182

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Poland

The Autonomy [?????????]

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy High View Post
PvE doesn't need skill updates, at least not as badly as it needs content. Content is what gets people playing. Seems like you're the one who needs to rethink what the "target audience" of GW is.

Not saying that I like PvP getting neglected (though, you did just get an update that fixed quite a few persistent issues...), but if they're going to favor one mode over another, they're going to favor PvE.
100% agree, but he meant PvP skill-update. We really need these at least every month.

Shalashaska

Shalashaska

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

The Elonian Order [TeO]

W/

Broken Sword slightly below the E in Ettins Back

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy High View Post
(though, you did just get an update that fixed quite a few persistent issues...)
Nerfing one GvG team build is hardly "fix[ing]...quite a few persistent issues..."

That's fixing ONE issue....in 6 months.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghull Ka View Post
Spot on, wot!

/equip Gorrel's Cane
/putontheritz
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