A few years back the European servers were packed to the extent you would meet dozens of people even in remote outposts. Now you're lucky if there are more than 10 people in Kamadan. Did anything happen to the EU servers so people couldn't keep playing on them or what?
Those lag spikes are pissing me off to no end but there is nothing I can do to fix them at the moment (maybe except moving to America, but I can't do that either). The choice is either play with decent ping and all by yourself, or play with people and watch as your character teleports around when he casts a spell after running. It's not THAT bad as I describe it, but it's kind of annoying because the EU servers are THERE. It's just that for some unclear reason all of the EU players have decided to migrate to the US.
Help me to understand, please?
EU players on US servers, why?
Sadalsuud
ajicorath
Trade.
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crazylady
This May help you understand a little more
I have been back ingame for around 4 weeks now after a very long break and it happend twice
Thats why i play in the American Sever
Oh yes and also trade
I have been back ingame for around 4 weeks now after a very long break and it happend twice
Thats why i play in the American Sever
Oh yes and also trade
Sadalsuud
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This May help you understand a little more
I have been back ingame for around 4 weeks now after a very long break and it happend twice Thats why i play in the American Sever Oh yes and also trade |
Are you telling me that 98% of the EU players are getting this 24/7? I bet trade wasn't that bad to make them all flee.
Bellatrixa
Actually, there are several reasons:
Some people are in mostly American guilds
Some people prefer the greater trade in the American districts
Some people are sick of people not using the language options correctly (I personally get sick of going to ENGLISH districts and seeing nothing but French etc).
Some newer people aren't aware that there are European districts.
And not ALL of the Eu players have migrated. I personally H/H most things so I prefer sticking to Eu servers for less lag. I had a guildie help me with a mission once in AD2 and I D/Ced three times in 5 mins.
Some people are in mostly American guilds
Some people prefer the greater trade in the American districts
Some people are sick of people not using the language options correctly (I personally get sick of going to ENGLISH districts and seeing nothing but French etc).
Some newer people aren't aware that there are European districts.
And not ALL of the Eu players have migrated. I personally H/H most things so I prefer sticking to Eu servers for less lag. I had a guildie help me with a mission once in AD2 and I D/Ced three times in 5 mins.
Sadalsuud
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Actually, there are several reasons:
Some people are in mostly American guilds Some people prefer the greater trade in the American districts Some people are sick of people not using the language options correctly (I personally get sick of going to ENGLISH districts and seeing nothing but French etc). Some newer people aren't aware that there are European districts. And not ALL of the Eu players have migrated. I personally H/H most things so I prefer sticking to Eu servers for less lag. I had a guildie help me with a mission once in AD2 and I D/Ced three times in 5 mins. |
2. Dunno about trade, so I can't say.
3. And how does having the entire userbase play in America helps to solve this? The only languages you won't see are Japanese/Korean etc. because English districts don't allow typing of East Asian characters.
4. If you bought the game in Europe you start in Europe by default. Applies to all PEGI rated copies sold outside of Europe as well.
Mac_Eanruig
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A few years back the European servers were packed to the extent you would meet dozens of people even in remote outposts. Now you're lucky if there are more than 10 people in Kamadan. Did anything happen to the EU servers so people couldn't keep playing on them or what?
Those lag spikes are pissing me off to no end but there is nothing I can do to fix them at the moment (maybe except moving to America, but I can't do that either). The choice is either play with decent ping and all by yourself, or play with people and watch as your character teleports around when he casts a spell after running. It's not THAT bad as I describe it, but it's kind of annoying because the EU servers are THERE. It's just that for some unclear reason all of the EU players have decided to migrate to the US. Help me to understand, please? |
It's mind boggling.
Dzjudz
- trade
- easier to find parties if everyone plays in the same dis
- don't have ping problems in america like you describe
In short, it's just more convenient.
- easier to find parties if everyone plays in the same dis
- don't have ping problems in america like you describe
In short, it's just more convenient.
Hobbs
When I solo farm I play in EU districts for less lag, but all the rest of the time I play in US districts because it's a more social environment due to more English speakers there. The European districts are mostly French and German in Local Chat.
neoteo ex animo
i still think they should remove all the language and continent districts , and just dump everyone on international dists ...
LifeInfusion
I don't know,my best drops have always been Polish.
But people tend not to write/type English even in the Euro English district. In the German district there's a lot of activity, though.
But people tend not to write/type English even in the Euro English district. In the German district there's a lot of activity, though.
Del
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i still think they should remove all the language and continent districts , and just dump everyone on international dists ...
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Yawgmoth
There were many reasons and euro players quickly migrated to american servers.
Euro English district was full of people speaking random-letters-like languages (scandinavian?) and the english speaking euro community was smaller than the american playerbase. One important reason not mentioned by anyone yet is that PARTY SEARCH system doesn't work across continents, so american districts became the default english speaking
The major disadvantage is the high pings and it really decreases the comfort of play if you play something more skill-intensive than C+Space or 1,2,3,4, ... 1,2,3,4.. on each target. I wish Anet did something with it but as it was never widely considered a problem I don't have my hopes high
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Possible solutions could be making PvE instances work just like PvP ones - they should be created on the server where the most players entering are closest to. The only problem with it would be when servers on either continent experience heavy lag issues, now players can just move to the less laggy continent in that case, but with a PvP-like change they would be stuck (except for parties with many players from the other region).
Another one would be improving the Party Search system into fully worldwide (it "just" requires a building a connection between 2 server sites for this service)
Euro English district was full of people speaking random-letters-like languages (scandinavian?) and the english speaking euro community was smaller than the american playerbase. One important reason not mentioned by anyone yet is that PARTY SEARCH system doesn't work across continents, so american districts became the default english speaking
The major disadvantage is the high pings and it really decreases the comfort of play if you play something more skill-intensive than C+Space or 1,2,3,4, ... 1,2,3,4.. on each target. I wish Anet did something with it but as it was never widely considered a problem I don't have my hopes high
. Possible solutions could be making PvE instances work just like PvP ones - they should be created on the server where the most players entering are closest to. The only problem with it would be when servers on either continent experience heavy lag issues, now players can just move to the less laggy continent in that case, but with a PvP-like change they would be stuck (except for parties with many players from the other region).
Another one would be improving the Party Search system into fully worldwide (it "just" requires a building a connection between 2 server sites for this service)
Faure
I only go there for ab, fa and other (pve) pugging. Whenever i'm with guildies doing something or HH i'm at euro for the better ping (usa is okayish, but ping goes orange from time to time).
Bellatrixa
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1. How'd you get in an American guild if you weren't playing in America to begin with?
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Why are you so against Europeans using the American server anyway? IMO as long as the language being spoken by someone matches that of where you are, who cares?
Ting Lafal
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There were many reasons and euro players quickly migrated to american servers.
Euro English district was full of people speaking random-letters-like languages (scandinavian?) and the english speaking euro community was smaller than the american playerbase. One important reason not mentioned by anyone yet is that PARTY SEARCH system doesn't work across continents, so american districts became the default english speaking The major disadvantage is the high pings and it really decreases the comfort of play if you play something more skill-intensive than C+Space or 1,2,3,4, ... 1,2,3,4.. on each target. I wish Anet did something with it but as it was never widely considered a problem I don't have my hopes high . Possible solutions could be making PvE instances work just like PvP ones - they should be created on the server where the most players entering are closest to. The only problem with it would be when servers on either continent experience heavy lag issues, now players can just move to the less laggy continent in that case, but with a PvP-like change they would be stuck (except for parties with many players from the other region). Another one would be improving the Party Search system into fully worldwide (it "just" requires a building a connection between 2 server sites for this service) |
Premium Unleaded
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Maybe in PvE but in PvP.....On an HA weekend....try hanging out on the US servers in HA and see how many ppl are there. EVERYONE and their uncle is in Intl. Dist. literaly 5 ppl in US Dist. 1 on this past Sat.
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godis
My experience is the complete opposite ! Last night I was amazed of all the people in ee1 Not just in Kamadan but many little outposts in NF. I guess its the HoM luring old players back.
But when buying or selling I always jump to America dis. No offense but if germans started typing in english in trade chat, life would be alot easier.
English is not my native language either.
But when buying or selling I always jump to America dis. No offense but if germans started typing in english in trade chat, life would be alot easier.
English is not my native language either.
Iuris
I'm surprised noone has pointed out the most obvious reason:
The player base is decreasing. All the time. The game is almost 6 years old, after all. So, as fewer people play, they tend to concentrate on areas where the other players are. It's simply a matter of "where are the people nowadays?" and going there.
There doesn't actually have to be a reason for people to gather in a specific place. The fact that it's known as the place where people play alone suffices. When a person sees an empty district, they'll automatically move to the districts they perceive as populous. Of you want to play with people, you go to american districts because people who play are there. It is circular logic - because it's a self sustaining dynamic.
Why this is the american districts and not international? That's where the reasons above come in.
P.S. if the game doesn't die first, I fully expect people speaking other languages to start speaking those languages in US districts, too.
The player base is decreasing. All the time. The game is almost 6 years old, after all. So, as fewer people play, they tend to concentrate on areas where the other players are. It's simply a matter of "where are the people nowadays?" and going there.
There doesn't actually have to be a reason for people to gather in a specific place. The fact that it's known as the place where people play alone suffices. When a person sees an empty district, they'll automatically move to the districts they perceive as populous. Of you want to play with people, you go to american districts because people who play are there. It is circular logic - because it's a self sustaining dynamic.
Why this is the american districts and not international? That's where the reasons above come in.
P.S. if the game doesn't die first, I fully expect people speaking other languages to start speaking those languages in US districts, too.
Bellatrixa
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My experience is the complete opposite ! Last night I was amazed of all the people in ee1 Not just in Kamadan but many little outposts in NF. I guess its the HoM luring old players back
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Milennin
I remember playing on Europian servers a few years ago, and the game was like almost dead to me. There were barely any people playing at all. Also, in major towns like Lion's Arch there were often people speaking in other languages, which is very annoying.
After a long break from the game I decided to check on American servers, and noticed the game was much more alive there.
Never having any lagspikes in American servers.
After a long break from the game I decided to check on American servers, and noticed the game was much more alive there.
Never having any lagspikes in American servers.
Aldric
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1. How'd you get in an American guild if you weren't playing in America to begin with?
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Nekodesu
I think it's because everybody is in america or german districts, or most people so maybe everybody just moved there? I can't speak German so I don't go to their server though it's better ping, also cause I know myself how epic annoying it is trying to communicate with people who can't even speak english.
I don't got much facts of it, none at all tbh. But I don't know, it's weird though, aren't the biggest playerbase Europeans?
I don't got much facts of it, none at all tbh. But I don't know, it's weird though, aren't the biggest playerbase Europeans?
Bellatrixa
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I don't got much facts of it, none at all tbh. But I don't know, it's weird though, aren't the biggest playerbase Europeans?
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Mordiego
One reason: German ppl. They are in all EU districts speaking German only.
Himm_Taeguk
I use them for Trade and PuG'ing.
ToA has 2 or 3 American Districts so do other places (DoA, Duncan's, etc.) where I can / don't like to H&H by myself. I only really go back to EE districts for playing with my Guildies.
I do all ZB and Wanted from American district's too because you can get a half decent party in less than 5 minutes.
ToA has 2 or 3 American Districts so do other places (DoA, Duncan's, etc.) where I can / don't like to H&H by myself. I only really go back to EE districts for playing with my Guildies.
I do all ZB and Wanted from American district's too because you can get a half decent party in less than 5 minutes.
MithranArkanere
I'm free like the wind.
I move here and there with a whim.
Why? Because I can.
Yes, we can.
So what If I get over 200 ping in servers other than the European?
That only affects mostly polymock. I never see myself rubberbanding around due to my own ping.
A +100 ping is still better than seeing only German trade messages and party formation.
If you want an English speaking pug or trade, you have to go to America.
I move here and there with a whim.
Why? Because I can.
Yes, we can.
So what If I get over 200 ping in servers other than the European?
That only affects mostly polymock. I never see myself rubberbanding around due to my own ping.
A +100 ping is still better than seeing only German trade messages and party formation.
If you want an English speaking pug or trade, you have to go to America.
ErrantVenture
Remember there's a difference between districts and servers guys. You can go to a european district and still be on the american servers. Which server you're playing on is determined by the composition of your team and you're opponents. Take GvG for example. If more than half the players in the instance (I.E. 9/16 players) are european, you'll be on euro servers. Otherwise you're on american servers. You can tell what server you're on by hovering over the little dot in the bottom right of the screen. An IP starting with 64 means you're on american servers, and IP starting with 201 or 206 means you're on euro servers. THE DISTRICT YOU'RE IN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT SERVER YOU'RE PLAYING ON, IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOUR LAG OR PING.
tl;dr servers & districts are two completely different things. Which server you're on is determined by team composition, not district.
tl;dr servers & districts are two completely different things. Which server you're on is determined by team composition, not district.
Del
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I doubt it. Largest playerbases in most MMOs are Americans. Hence why most of the events/competitions are designed around them. I would have loved to have seen a Guy Fawkes related event (think of the amount of party title points there could have been!) but as it's something celebrated almost exclusively in England, it's something that wouldn't happen. Then you get Thanksgiving and we have an event related to it because more of the players are aware of the holiday. Splitting hairs there but you get my point. You don't just have the Americans but also the Canadians, meaning the game is most active in late GMT evening. Suits me with my insomnia :P
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Edo123
I tend to play on American Dist when i wanan team up with other players to do UW,FoW,DoA and trading in Spamadan due to the fact there is a LOT more players there.
I dont know what happened when most Europe ppl went to america dist for tbh. I quitted GW for like a year and came bak and every1 was on america dist so I too went on it due to the fact that everybody left
I tend to play on EU servers with my guildies, i have 3 guild friends that play in EU servers all the way from South Africa and they are "lucky" to get orange ping.
I dont know what happened when most Europe ppl went to america dist for tbh. I quitted GW for like a year and came bak and every1 was on america dist so I too went on it due to the fact that everybody left
I tend to play on EU servers with my guildies, i have 3 guild friends that play in EU servers all the way from South Africa and they are "lucky" to get orange ping.
yitjuan
I noticed chat in Lions Arch American was better than no chat at all.
Bellatrixa
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Why celebrate a treasonous englishman fighting for spain, trying to bring catholicism (the more evil of the two evils) to power over protestantism?
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It's traditionally a celebration of King James I surviving the assassination attempt by Guido Fawkes. Puritans used it as an excuse to preach against the evils of Catholicism and burn effigies but as the years have gone by, it's now more of a ceremonial and social event. So no, it's not to glorify Guido Fawkes, quite the opposite. Hence why effigies of him are made and burnt on the fires.
Link for those who really want to read more
FoxBat
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I doubt it. Largest playerbases in most MMOs are Americans.
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Raven Wing
For me as an european who can read and write danish and english and sometimes want to sell stuff or join pug for z bounty or stuff like slavers, doa, fow etc its a simple choice:
Go to europe english district of the relevant town and often you see only some german or french announcements in partysearch.
As already said, its american district the people are.
The comments on thanksgiving are derailing of thread, why not make a new thread about that?
Go to europe english district of the relevant town and often you see only some german or french announcements in partysearch.
As already said, its american district the people are.
The comments on thanksgiving are derailing of thread, why not make a new thread about that?
AmbientMelody
What's up with the German districts anyway? It's getting tedious, because you'd expect a well-educated German to be genuine and speak in English seeing as players from all nationalities hang around in German districts thanks to their population, but what you usually get are insults, ignore button and more insults. Thanks for your generosity my German friends, I shall return the favour one day 
Too bad AM servers are unbearable with the pings they offer. There were times when EU English district was a nice place to hang out and there was a good reason to avoid AM ones, but it seems that since the migration took place it's increasingly pointless to play at EU servers, unless you speak German.
Too bad AM servers are unbearable with the pings they offer. There were times when EU English district was a nice place to hang out and there was a good reason to avoid AM ones, but it seems that since the migration took place it's increasingly pointless to play at EU servers, unless you speak German.
Sprites
well the bad thing about germans is i don't understand them , and most of the time they won't change language 
neither i understand eastern europe or scandinavian , but i usually play in french districts , much more populated thn english ones
neither i understand eastern europe or scandinavian , but i usually play in french districts , much more populated thn english ones
Yawgmoth
It's a great shame that all non-German non-French players from Europe have to play on American severs, it's because of thoughtless design of certain game mechanics and it's also the fault of the players themselves.
There definately AREN'T more American players than English-speaking Euros. Especially during the European prime time. All the time I find myself in a full 8/8 pug of all Euro players that forms in American districts and proceeds to play on American instances... and sometimes complain about lags. When I play monk I sometimes suggest zoning and starting from euro district for better pings (high ping and lag spikes sux when monking) and then I hear from everyone that actually they're euro aswell and that's a good idea... but they'd never come with that themselves. Everyone's like completely forgotten about the existance of Euro distrcts, so it would be very hard to change players' mentality now.
Nope sir, European districts are always ran on European servers and all other districts are ran on American servers. The actual players' location matter ONLY in PvP combat instances, everywhere else in the game it's strictly predetermined and all PvE instances are created on the same server region on which the outpost district was.
There definately AREN'T more American players than English-speaking Euros. Especially during the European prime time. All the time I find myself in a full 8/8 pug of all Euro players that forms in American districts and proceeds to play on American instances... and sometimes complain about lags. When I play monk I sometimes suggest zoning and starting from euro district for better pings (high ping and lag spikes sux when monking) and then I hear from everyone that actually they're euro aswell and that's a good idea... but they'd never come with that themselves. Everyone's like completely forgotten about the existance of Euro distrcts, so it would be very hard to change players' mentality now.
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Remember there's a difference between districts and servers guys. You can go to a european district and still be on the american servers. Which server you're playing on is determined by the composition of your team and you're opponents. Take GvG for example. If more than half the players in the instance (I.E. 9/16 players) are european, you'll be on euro servers. Otherwise you're on american servers. You can tell what server you're on by hovering over the little dot in the bottom right of the screen. An IP starting with 64 means you're on american servers, and IP starting with 201 or 206 means you're on euro servers. THE DISTRICT YOU'RE IN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT SERVER YOU'RE PLAYING ON, IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOUR LAG OR PING.
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AmbientMelody
Not to come off as an ass, but the idea of fracturing European districts to language-based ones was a fail since inception. I prefer a Babylon over Ghost Town, not sure about you.
Anon-e-mouse
Players need a way of blocking or ignoring chat that's not in the appropriate language. Districts was a way of making that happen. I happen to like GW's way of doing things than most other games where the players are seperated out into different server worlds and there's no communication between them.
That being said I really do wish those people not using English in the Euro English districts, either use their home district, or the International district (which is WHY IT'S THERE).
The number of times I zone in and see complete walls of text (usually Dutch) that I can't read or understand simply beggers belief.
That being said I really do wish those people not using English in the Euro English districts, either use their home district, or the International district (which is WHY IT'S THERE).
The number of times I zone in and see complete walls of text (usually Dutch) that I can't read or understand simply beggers belief.
bhavv
I prefer to play in America channels because there are more people, more activity, and I managed o find myself a large and active alliance through America districts.
EU servers are completely dead, it makes no sense to play on them. I would prefer to play all my MMOs on American servers if given the opportunity because Europe is a rather tiny place in comparison with so many fewer people playing games, further divided by so many languages.
EU servers are completely dead, it makes no sense to play on them. I would prefer to play all my MMOs on American servers if given the opportunity because Europe is a rather tiny place in comparison with so many fewer people playing games, further divided by so many languages.