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Originally Posted by Acehole2006
While Rt is an option it could be Suun.
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AngelWJedi
i hope its the female nf monk hench so i can kill her over and over. oo; miss leeroy jenkins. xD
yitjuan
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Originally Posted by Hyperventilate
No Sylvari yet.
Besides, in GW2 they are only 25 (I think) years old. It wouldn't make sense, lore-wise, to have one rogue sylvari be so much older than the rest. They would have more prior knowledge than they start with in GW2, since their dreams/memories go into a collective knowledge. |
Acehole2006
Although they would probably have to scale it down a bit but how cool would Albax be. I know we got 3 ele heros already so would be a waste, but model wise oww yes 
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Dzjudz
I'm thinking Evennia as a third para hero atm.
ErrantVenture
It's 100% not going to be a character we've seen yet. Why would they pick someone we've already seen when a new character let's them further bridge the gap to GW2 (which IS the whole point of GW:B after all).
Dzjudz
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Originally Posted by ErrantVenture
It's 100% not going to be a character we've seen yet. Why would they pick someone we've already seen when a new character let's them further bridge the gap to GW2 (which IS the whole point of GW:B after all).
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Acehole2006
I mean obviously im only assuming here, but im thinking... seen as its in cantha the new hero is going to be Rt. We have been told its not going to be sin right?
No reason it cant be a paragon of course but just thinking most likely here.
No reason it cant be a paragon of course but just thinking most likely here.
Icecream
Keiran as para
Acehole2006
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Originally Posted by Icecream
Keiran as para
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Acehole2006
+ i would expect him as a hero. so John's quote would be wrong in my opinion.
Zawk Tirson
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Originally Posted by Acehole2006
+ i would expect him as a hero. so John's quote would be wrong in my opinion.
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FoxBat
John described it as "not what we expect." Koning on krewe described it as "facepalm obvious." Also not a ranger or assassin. So keiran as paragon is the only idea presented so far that fits all three statements.
NerfHerder
^this, and it will involve someone from the WiK/HotN storyline. Which opens doors for my favorite guess, Blimm as a Rt.
Zawk Tirson
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Originally Posted by NerfHerder
^this, and it will involve someone from the WiK/HotN storyline. Which opens doors for my favorite guess, Blimm as a Rt.
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Only problem is that she's a monk, and we have 3 monk heroes already.
edit: I too would enjoy Blimm as a Rt.
AngelWJedi
but didnt someone say its someone unexpected but we would face palm when we saw it? so it has to be one we seen or come across our playing. and since we have to have finished facs to get the new stuff when it comes out the amount of npc's we've seen it huge.
Zawk Tirson
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Originally Posted by AngelWJedi
but didnt someone say its someone unexpected but we would face palm when we saw it? so it has to be one we seen or come across our playing. and since we have to have finished facs to get the new stuff when it comes out the amount of npc's we've seen it huge.
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skullmount4
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Originally Posted by FoxBat
John described it as "not what we expect." Koning on krewe described it as "facepalm obvious." Also not a ranger or assassin. So keiran as paragon is the only idea presented so far that fits all three statements.
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Acehole2006
I agree with what your saying about Keiran as a paragon would not be expected, but considering he used paragon skills on the last HotN quest makes it kinda obvious again dont it?.
Unless thats the hint they tried to give us without actually telling us of course.
Unless thats the hint they tried to give us without actually telling us of course.
FoxBat
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Originally Posted by Acehole2006
Unless thats the hint they tried to give us without actually telling us of course.
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Acehole2006
So who actually likes the idea of Keiran as a new paragon hero?
Would you be disappointed or pleased with this outcome?
Would you be disappointed or pleased with this outcome?
Malganis
I dont want to bring both Gwen and Keiran in my party and have them run off into the bushes together giggling, leaving me alone to face the monsters.
They are on their honeymoon after all.
They are on their honeymoon after all.
Crom The Pale
Melee update on the horizon....hmmm....
Undead Prince Rurik?
Now that might get some warrior action just for the look.....!
Undead Prince Rurik?
Now that might get some warrior action just for the look.....!
ErrantVenture
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I dont want to bring both Gwen and Keiran in my party and have them run off into the bushes together giggling, leaving me alone to face the monsters.
They are on their honeymoon after all. |
Apok
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Originally Posted by ErrantVenture
Are you twelve?
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You sicky Vicky, you.
Malganis
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Originally Posted by ErrantVenture
Are you twelve?
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I'm 35.
Lasai
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Originally Posted by Acehole2006
So who actually likes the idea of Keiran as a new paragon hero?
Would you be disappointed or pleased with this outcome? |
Deviant Angel
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So who actually likes the idea of Keiran as a new paragon hero?
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Malganis
Really? I use my paragon heros all the time. Stand your Ground, Go for the Eyes, and Fall Back or Incoming are great skills.
FengShuiDove
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Originally Posted by Malganis
Really? I use my paragon heros all the time. Stand your Ground, Go for the Eyes, and Fall Back or Incoming are great skills.
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No but in all seriousness, unless there's a big Paragon buff that makes Motivation worthwhile and Spear Mastery a good hybrid damage dealer, we really don't need another.
dancing gnome
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Good, so now you can have each hero carry one and only one of your Paragons has to carry a second skill!
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Part of the problem with heroes is you can only bring three, so something which would probably be very beneficial to the entire party as one of the 8 slots would be left out if it's not the optimum and efficient addition to take up one of the three slots.
I think after the 7 hero update is implemented we will see a lot more varied and balanced party builds and heroes being used, including Keiran the paragon.
That said, I still want a class rebalance for the paragon.
Bellatrixa
I must be one of those people who sits and looks at their heroes and thinks, "If only I had more slots...", when it comes to some of them. For me, that includes Paragons. When I'm playing NF, I quite often bring Sogolon with me. I like Paras because they're semi-ranged and therefore don't leeroy in (*cough*KOSS*cough*) but do some pretty nice physical damage while yelling things to buff my party. Paras are going to be something I'll personally be bringing along with me MUCH more often once we have the 7 hero update.
I do agree with the whole Keiran and Gwen being all.. well. I'm not even sure if Gwen's the type to drag Keiran behind a res shrine while we're getting hacked to pieces...
I do agree with the whole Keiran and Gwen being all.. well. I'm not even sure if Gwen's the type to drag Keiran behind a res shrine while we're getting hacked to pieces...
FengShuiDove
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Originally Posted by dancing gnome
I like Keiran more than Morghan and Hayda so even if I only use one it will be him. I almost certainly won't use one (especially when I plan to play HM content for increased rewards not because it's more fun) until I get 7 heroes. After 7 heroes are allowed he will probably be a part of my final party build (along with Gwen).
Part of the problem with heroes is you can only bring three, so something which would probably be very beneficial to the entire party as one of the 8 slots would be left out if it's not the optimum and efficient addition to take up one of the three slots. I think after the 7 hero update is implemented we will see a lot more varied and balanced party builds and heroes being used, including Keiran the paragon. That said, I still want a class rebalance for the paragon. |
I realize we're not really arguing, but I am going to stick with the statement that a third Paragon isn't necessary without a major rebalance. I understand the cosmetic aspect, and that's fine, but given the option, I'd take Rit #3 any day considering the current state of the game. Currently, if I had a 7 hero party with 3 Rits available, I could role some character /P for the 3-4 great Command skills and not feel like I'm missing anything without a primary Para.
Acehole2006
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So who actually likes the idea of Keiran as a new paragon hero?
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However if we could have Kerian as a Paragon with some PvE skills like he uses in HotN i.e.... "Find Their Weakness!" (Thackeray) and "There's Nothing to Fear!" (Thackeray) that for me would be cool and would accept that nicely
.Now i know people are gonna say well thats a massive buff to the party. But humans can use PvE skills and cons etc, why not Thackeray as a daddy hero.
Heros are not used in PvP and nor are PvE Skills so would not effect the PvP scene.
With this kind of hero people would actually use him alot (Assuming that this is what is to come) instead of another pointless Para in my books.
FoxBat
From Anet's perspective we're probably going to get all heroes filled out to 3 anyway, so I don't think they are too concerned about which order it happens in. Heroes are strongly hinted at as Winds of Change rewards, we've already seen Miku and it's not a stretch to imagine there might be a ritualist reward as well.
dancing gnome
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From Anet's perspective we're probably going to get all heroes filled out to 3 anyway, so I don't think they are too concerned about which order it happens in. Heroes are strongly hinted at as Winds of Change rewards, we've already seen Miku and it's not a stretch to imagine there might be a ritualist reward as well.
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ogre_jd
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Originally Posted by dancing gnome
If the WoC hero is Miku I hope the melee hero update comes with a serious improvement on assassin hero ai with chained attacks. It would seem weird to know there is a problem with melee heroes and not fix assassin hero ai but then add a new assassin hero to hold weapons.
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Awesomez
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If the WoC hero is Miku I hope the melee hero update comes with a serious improvement on assassin hero ai with chained attacks. It would seem weird to know there is a problem with melee heroes and not fix assassin hero ai but then add a new assassin hero to hold weapons.
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chilly willy
whenever i need to use a ranger/derv/sin/war i give them a shield and spear or sometimes the rangers a bow just because of expertise. a crit spear hero can be a dangerous addition im a warrior so i dont need more melee for the most part. if i have to use a ranger hero i give them a bow for barrage or staff for spirit spam. dervs do ok with spears but i usually give them a scythe because scythe mechanics are hard to f up and rupting blows work great with aoe effects or i give em a staff they make good bombers in some areas. but i only use those heroes when i have to otherwise i have all caster h/h.
Boogz
plz don't give us another useless assassin hero, I don't want Miku. Sin heroes have no future, unless they receive a MAJOR rework on AI.
why would keiran be a para hero since he's a ranger on his missions? i don't get it
What I really want to see is a new mesmer/ritualist hero. We already have 3 necros, wars, dervs, monks, rangers.
2 paragons, 2 sins, 2 ritualists, 2 mesmers. One of these will get another friend. I hope its a rit, if not, a mesmer. otherwise I'd rather have an AI update over new para/sin hero
oh gawd this please. I'd LOVE another asuran hero. these little guys are so fun. I'd prefer Zinn over Blimm, but i'd love to have these guys + vekk on my party, it'd be hella funny
why would keiran be a para hero since he's a ranger on his missions? i don't get it
What I really want to see is a new mesmer/ritualist hero. We already have 3 necros, wars, dervs, monks, rangers.
2 paragons, 2 sins, 2 ritualists, 2 mesmers. One of these will get another friend. I hope its a rit, if not, a mesmer. otherwise I'd rather have an AI update over new para/sin hero
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^this, and it will involve someone from the WiK/HotN storyline. Which opens doors for my favorite guess, Blimm as a Rt.
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