Hinted Hero Update

SpyderArachnid

SpyderArachnid

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

United States

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They have already stated that the new hero won't be an Assassin or a Ranger, so no need to worry about those two professions.

dancing gnome

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

House of Wandering Souls

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid View Post
They have already stated that the new hero won't be an Assassin or a Ranger, so no need to worry about those two professions.
People are referring to the possibility of getting Miku as an assassin hero from Winds of Change. Stumme said there will be a hero reward for HotN and it won't be a ranger or an assassin. He didn't say anything about a hero from WoC (that includes whether or not there will be one).

SpyderArachnid

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United States

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dancing gnome View Post
People are referring to the possibility of getting Miku as an assassin hero from Winds of Change. Stumme said there will be a hero reward for HotN and it won't be a ranger or an assassin. He didn't say anything about a hero from WoC (that includes whether or not there will be one).
From my understanding, we aren't getting a hero from HotN. The hero we are getting is from WoC. In the interview, he states that we will be rewarded a hero for completing WoC, not HotN.

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Stumme
Some things that I can tease: the upcoming Keiran/Gwen content will be doing more than just resolving their story – it will also help bridge us into the new content in Cantha that will be coming. Additionally, when it’s all said and done, players will be able to unlock a new Hero from the content – and it’s probably not what you expect.
http://www.killtenrats.com/2010/09/2...eam-interview/

I'm assuming that when he says "All said and done" he is including WoC as well since he is talking about that.

Tommy's

Tommy's

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Join Date: Dec 2006

[Bone]

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I believe Stumme sais somewhere on wiki that we will get a new hero during HotN, somewhere around the wedding. Can't find it atm, so I'm not able to quote if for you, but I think Dancing Gnome is correct. No prove though :3

Hyaon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

P/W

"players will be able to unlock a new Hero from the content – and it’s probably not what you expect. "

Warrior!

SpyderArachnid

SpyderArachnid

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Originally Posted by Hyaon View Post
"players will be able to unlock a new Hero from the content – and it’s probably not what you expect. "

Warrior!
We have three already. Why would you want another one?

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

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Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid View Post
We have three already. Why would you want another one?
Which is why one would be unexpected

instanceskiller

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Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid View Post
We have three already. Why would you want another one?

so we can have four? with the upcoming 7 heroes update it would be possible to utilise all four warr heroes...if you really wanted to.

SpyderArachnid

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Originally Posted by Tom Swift View Post
Which is why one would be unexpected
Well he also stated in another interview that the new hero would be someone we have worked with before and is facepalm obvious.

But, does that mean someone we've worked with in Factions (seeing as the new hero is part of the WoC), or someone we worked with in WiK?

FoxBat

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

http://massively.joystiq.com/2010/11...-of-the-north/

Quote:
By the time everything is all said and done relating to the return/wedding arc, people will have another Hero in their parties.
The hero Stumme has been talking about is for HotN. However there may also be hero rewards in WoC since Stumme also said

Quote:
We've added Heroes this way in the past, notably with M.O.X., and to a lesser extent, Zenmai and Olias got the same treatment, and it's something I'd like to carry forward with future content.
So WoC heroes are just (logical) supposition, but nothing specific has been mentioned of them.

SpyderArachnid

SpyderArachnid

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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat View Post
http://massively.joystiq.com/2010/11...-of-the-north/



The hero Stumme has been talking about is for HotN. However there may also be hero rewards in WoC since Stumme also said



So WoC heroes are just (logical) supposition, but nothing specific has been mentioned of them.
Actually just found the interview myself too. Except from IncGamers.

Quote:
After all of the wedding content is completed, a new Hero will have joined the player’s party – and the rewards from the content along the way will doubtlessly help some players accomplish a bit more in their Hall of Monuments.
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/blog/...-the-north-qa/

So yes you were right, my mistake. Thought the new hero was being released after WoC.

Wrath of m0o

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

I always wanted 3 Paragon Hero's..especially this guy.
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lock_of_Ahdashim

MArcSinus

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Join Date: Mar 2010

The Netherlands

Are We Friends [NLT]

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I'm still betting my money on ghostly togo like I predicted a long while ago, you will all bow to me when I'm right muhaha.

The wedding and the hero should come quickly now btw, only a few more weeks till it's next year and we also got Wintersday coming

Wrath of m0o

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

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Diamond of Ahdashim would be sexy..
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Diamond_Djinn

SpyderArachnid

SpyderArachnid

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Lords Of Noh [LoN]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MArcSinus View Post
The wedding and the hero should come quickly now btw, only a few more weeks till it's next year and we also got Wintersday coming
This was my thoughts as well. They did say the wedding would be wrapped up before Wintersday, which means any time now hopefully.

Acehole2006

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Im really looking forward to the wedding. I doubt it will but im really hoping there is a cutscene instead of just standing around in a town. Think that will happen?

dancing gnome

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Join Date: May 2006

House of Wandering Souls

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Originally Posted by Acehole2006 View Post
Im really looking forward to the wedding. I doubt it will but im really hoping there is a cutscene instead of just standing around in a town. Think that will happen?
I seriously doubt it. I expect the wedding to be just like Zinn's Trial. A static dialogue event, although I think they did say there would be an option for us to speak for either the bride or the groom. I guess you get a menu and select a predetermined speech to everyone depending on who you selected (either Keiran or Psycho Bat).

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Originally Posted by MArcSinus View Post
I'm still betting my money on ghostly togo like I predicted a long while ago, you will all bow to me when I'm right muhaha.

The wedding and the hero should come quickly now btw, only a few more weeks till it's next year and we also got Wintersday coming
Hopefully that doesn't come at the cost of the dervish update being delayed until next year.

Acehole2006

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Mo/

Yeah real sad though . Would be quality to have a decent cutscene for such a nice event.

FoxBat

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Part of the reason they don't cutscene it is there's no voice. Although it would be nice if only for the ability to skip something you've seen 10 times already.

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

If the hero is to be unexpected then it most certainly must be one from the Spanish White Mantle Inquisition.

SecUnder

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Join Date: May 2005

San Diego CA

Eternity Lost and Found

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come on people, isn't it obvious? Its Thackeray. You already have Gwen as a party member, they get married, and now you have to lug her husband around as well! How else are they going to be making babies?

Xenomortis

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UK

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To be quite honest, I'd rather they didn't do that when they're around me.

Veldan

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis View Post
To be quite honest, I'd rather they didn't do that when they're around me.
this, lol

/12chars

Malganis

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Southern California

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That's what I said, and I got called 12 years old. :/

Jade Zephyr

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GWFC

Am I the only one hoping for the new hero to be Santa?

Acehole2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jade Zephyr View Post
Am I the only one hoping for the new hero to be Santa?
King Adelbern in a santa costume ftw

ogre_jd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Canadia

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Originally Posted by Acehole2006 View Post
King Adelbern in a santa costume ftw
He seems a more Grenchly type to me....

AngelWJedi

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Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

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ill only take santa as a hero if he dropped gifts for me each time we zoned. xD i for one hope for another mes or rt hero. but dont make it butt ugly like the rt in nahpu! xD

asb

asb

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Join Date: Apr 2008

Europe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SecUnder View Post
How else are they going to be making babies?
This is how. In GW2, we'll have to help Logan solve the mystery of an ancient record claiming Gwen died a virgin.

Zawk Tirson

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

R/

Mad King Thorn. Everyday his profession changes. It's obvious, guys.

Traveller

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

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Umm, I assume you can't do these quests if you haven't finished War in Kryta. So you can't get the new hero then, either?

FengShuiDove

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Originally Posted by Traveller View Post
Umm, I assume you can't do these quests if you haven't finished War in Kryta. So you can't get the new hero then, either?
Winds of Change is in no way tied to WiK/HotN. So you ought to be fine even if you've never touched current GW:B content or don't even have Prophecies campaign.

I think .

Zawk Tirson

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Join Date: Nov 2010

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove View Post
Winds of Change is in no way tied to WiK/HotN. So you ought to be fine even if you've never touched current GW:B content or don't even have Prophecies campaign.

I think .
I thought Miku (from HotN) was the way that you got into the Winds of Change content. I also recall reading somewhere that the Ebon Falcons were going to be involved outside of Tyria.

Targren

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Primeval Warlords[wuw]

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Originally Posted by FoxBat View Post
A fundamental limitation of GW engine is that you cannot pull up information from a character not loaded into memory. That's a big part of the lack of auction house. When account-wide treasure hunter and wisdom were added, you had to log onto each of your characters for the account title to tally their stats and add together. Zaishen quests were originally concepted as account-wide, meaning you could only do a quest once on that account per day (and presumably with better rewards.) However they could not get the quest log to share info across the account like that. There are various account-wide datas in guild wars but the important point is that these all must be stored completely separate from character data, and character data itself by definition is not.
Yet, oddly, they were able to get the Nicholas gift count to go account-wide. <_<

ogre_jd

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Join Date: Feb 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zawk Tirson View Post
I thought Miku (from HotN) was the way that you got into the Winds of Change content. I also recall reading somewhere that the Ebon Falcons were going to be involved outside of Tyria.
She may be in it - but that doesn't necessarily mean that you have to do the events in Tyria and the Far Shiverpeaks in order to go do the stuff in Cantha. Or to do the stuff in Elona that is most likely to come along sometime after the Winds of Change...

NerfHerder

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Join Date: Apr 2010

You will need to have completed WiK/HotN storyline to get the next hero. Which should be soon, around wintersday event. There is a possibility of a new hero for Cantha:WoC but I dont think it has been confirmed. The next hero will be someone related to the WiK/HotN storyline and not a Ranger or Assassin. Who or what may also be /facepalm obvious.

WiK/HotN and Cantha:WoC are seperate content. WiK/HotN is not required to start C:WoC content. However, your character will need to have completed Factions in order to begin C:WoC.

If you require sources, reread the thread.

dancing gnome

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

House of Wandering Souls

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zawk Tirson View Post
I thought Miku (from HotN) was the way that you got into the Winds of Change content. I also recall reading somewhere that the Ebon Falcons were going to be involved outside of Tyria.
She's more like a teaser or a lead into Winds of Change (people seem to think it has to do with the myserious employer of the White Mantle from Hearts of the North). So it kinda leads on where HotN leaves off with Miku, but you don't need to play through it to begin Winds of Change. Honestly, it doesn't really reveal a tonne of information, just cryptic hints and a bit of vague background info on Miku. If you don't end up experiencing it you probably won't miss much from WoC, it's more of a fun way to introduce her and flesh her out a bit for those interested.

Miku does become friends with Keiran Thackery (the leader of the Ebon Falcons) and it's possible this will form some kind of alliance or bond which will them to Cantha to aid in whatever struggles Miku faces when she returns. She might even turn up for the wedding before that happens, we have to wait.

Acehole2006

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Good job to all the people who had guessed thackeray as a paragon hero.

Leaves the question though.... it was expected, so why say its something we dont expect....

dancing gnome

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House of Wandering Souls

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Acehole2006 View Post
Good job to all the people who had guessed thackeray as a paragon hero.

Leaves the question though.... it was expected, so why say its something we dont expect....
By saying it was something we don't expect that's what helped people figure it out.

We expected it to be him from the beginning (the obvious choice) but we were told it wasn't a ranger. This threw some people off of the trail.

Then we were told it was something we wouldn't expect (we expected Keiran as a ranger not to change professions into a paragon) and that it was still obvious.

By being told it was unexpected... it made us look outside to box and at things we wouldn't expect it to be (the famous ranger becoming a paragon). It wasn't expected until we were told it was unexpected (if that makes any sense to you).

Acehole2006

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Understood. Just got in from work so now i must go and grab him from the wedding. More runes to buy hehe .