If not the update is already a /fail.
7 Heroes/Embark Beach Early Next Year
vamp08
Dervish update before Wintersday?
If not the update is already a /fail.
If not the update is already a /fail.
Chik N Nuggets
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
NO! I don't want "something pretty awesome" in addition to the Hero update. I want the hero update as early as possible and you can add the rest of the shit you thought about later.
|
A11Eur0
I predict a year after GW2 is released, GW1 live servers will shut down. Maybe they're going to offer the ability to run our own servers, with any achievements made being restricted to those servers.
That would be nice.
That would be nice.
FengShuiDove
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
I predict a year after GW2 is released, GW1 live servers will shut down. Maybe they're going to offer the ability to run our own servers, with any achievements made being restricted to those servers.
That would be nice. |
Black Metal
for those who have speculated as to why Anet has reversed itself on 7-hero parties, this true answer is this:
Lynsey Murdock bowed out, Joe Stumme stepped in. The Live Team is Joe's to run, and he likes 7-hero parties. Nothing more, nothing less.
Lynsey Murdock bowed out, Joe Stumme stepped in. The Live Team is Joe's to run, and he likes 7-hero parties. Nothing more, nothing less.
ogre_jd
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Prince Rogrs Nelson
The obvious reason for implementing this update is the fact that, once GW2 is out and the GW1 servers start to empty of players, you'll practically NEED the option of 7 heroes to do some areas, as PuG options will go from slim to none.
|
Kunder
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by ogre_jd
Eh. The game won't empty to *that* extent. If Ultima Online and EverQuest can hang around with a viable *paying* player base this long, then GW1'll have no problems keeping a healthy population.
|
ogre_jd
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Kunder
Depends on what you call viable. Its hard enough already to get any group outside of farming areas.
|
LordDragon
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by ogre_jd
For you, perhaps. I have few problems getting groups when I'm in the mood. Except on ZMissions where everyone seems to only want Hard Mode and sometimes in the Maguuma Jungle for Aurora Glade.
|
With the advent of Embark Beach I see people finding more people to group with than ever before. Many times I have said, "What the hell" and joined a person looking for a group for a mission I happened to be at.
When EB comes around, I am sure that others will say WTH also and join up when they were not even considering doing a particular mission. Just seeing someone asking for help can be enough sometimes.
Axel Zinfandel
That's cool
Where's my derv update :/
Where's my derv update :/
DokkyDok
Cancel Wintersday, and move the schedule up, please.
crusanderth
full heros partys = no drop for you.
gw need new loot scaling with 7 heros.
gw need new loot scaling with 7 heros.
Dark-NighT
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by DokkyDok
Cancel Wintersday, and move the schedule up, please.
|
Anyways, bring it on Anet, i cant wait to fill up my party with mah heroes.
ps Your avatar made me lol.
DokkyDok
Considering early next year is probably early summer, I might just have to find a partner for Lornar's/Dreadnaught's VQ.
Hyperventilate
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by crusanderth
full heros partys = no drop for you.
gw need new loot scaling with 7 heros. |
It'll be no different than having heros + henchmen.
crusanderth
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Elmindreda Farshaw
early next year, aka sometime in 2013. Going by how "soon" the derv update has come, and how "every other month" skill updates, with "previews" the month before. I love this game, but anet needs to just shut their mouth, no one trusts any timeline they give anymore.
|
TheRaven
It's the small things that make me happy. There's 1 update I've been wanting them to add for about 3 years now. It's tiny. Probably wouldn't take much programming time and wouldn't create any "drama" or controversy in the community like so many of the other updates manage to do.
Give me some sorting abilities. That's all.
For Heroes, I'd like the ability to sort them:
- In order that I gained them (current sort)
- Alphabetical
- By profession
- By Level
- By frequently used (may be harder to implement)
I'd also like a different order on my quest log. I don't want to spend a lot of time searching thru a bloated quest list looking for the one quest my team is gearing up to finish. They already have them separated out by region, which is nice, but I'd like another grouping level added for Campaign and auto-collapse the quest lists for the campaigns your character isn't currently standing in. You can click the + to expand the list if you want but it should collapse by default. Much like your skills collapse on the K menu if you have no points in that attribute.
Give me some sorting abilities. That's all.
For Heroes, I'd like the ability to sort them:
- In order that I gained them (current sort)
- Alphabetical
- By profession
- By Level
- By frequently used (may be harder to implement)
I'd also like a different order on my quest log. I don't want to spend a lot of time searching thru a bloated quest list looking for the one quest my team is gearing up to finish. They already have them separated out by region, which is nice, but I'd like another grouping level added for Campaign and auto-collapse the quest lists for the campaigns your character isn't currently standing in. You can click the + to expand the list if you want but it should collapse by default. Much like your skills collapse on the K menu if you have no points in that attribute.
I Echo Dshot
How hard is it to code this...
Hopefully it will release before GW2.
Hopefully it will release before GW2.
chuckles79
I willing to bet that 7 hero teams will only be from Embark Beach at first. As a test run to see if people completely stop PUG'ing.
You know, given the random PUGs I join for daily ZM/ZB, 7 heroes is not going to be as good. Oh it's nice for those of us who might want to do something in HM that's not the ZM, and GW:B content would be greatly improved. However I'm amazed at the vitriol for it.
Also stop ripping on them for the pace. If everyone remembers the day HotN started, they were releasing the stuff as they finished it. So I think they are setting a pretty good pace. Not to mention that completing HotN was practically good for an Oppressor wep in even trade...Not bad for missions you don't need other people for.
Right now, it's Wintersday, and Winds of Change in late-January in time for Canthan New Year. After that, the derv update. We'll see 7 heroes and Embark Beach sometime in late-March, April or so.
They'll be about 2 new GW 2 professions announced.
Ebonhawke by Labor Day 2011, and closed Beta of GW2 and final prof. announcements starting at Christmas. Open Beta in March 2012, and release the same day as you can get your 7th year anniversary minis.
I'd put money on all of this!
You know, given the random PUGs I join for daily ZM/ZB, 7 heroes is not going to be as good. Oh it's nice for those of us who might want to do something in HM that's not the ZM, and GW:B content would be greatly improved. However I'm amazed at the vitriol for it.
Also stop ripping on them for the pace. If everyone remembers the day HotN started, they were releasing the stuff as they finished it. So I think they are setting a pretty good pace. Not to mention that completing HotN was practically good for an Oppressor wep in even trade...Not bad for missions you don't need other people for.
Right now, it's Wintersday, and Winds of Change in late-January in time for Canthan New Year. After that, the derv update. We'll see 7 heroes and Embark Beach sometime in late-March, April or so.
They'll be about 2 new GW 2 professions announced.
Ebonhawke by Labor Day 2011, and closed Beta of GW2 and final prof. announcements starting at Christmas. Open Beta in March 2012, and release the same day as you can get your 7th year anniversary minis.
I'd put money on all of this!
shoyon456
How about you finally deliver on that Dervish balance and restructure? Oh wait, I forgot Anet just has their thumbs up their asses. Are they even WORKING on Dervish updates anymore or did they just give up?
WTH is going on there? Pretty sure the Dervish update was in the works first.
EDIT: To be clear I AM looking forward to full hero teams, however the Dervish balance is much more needed and has been on the list for a LONG time now with ZERO PERCENT VISIBLE PROGRESS. Jesus Christ we don't even have the slightest idea of what Anet has planned for the Dervish after nearly half a year, despite the constant yelling at Anet concerning what the Dervish's problems are and how to fix them.
WTH is going on there? Pretty sure the Dervish update was in the works first.
EDIT: To be clear I AM looking forward to full hero teams, however the Dervish balance is much more needed and has been on the list for a LONG time now with ZERO PERCENT VISIBLE PROGRESS. Jesus Christ we don't even have the slightest idea of what Anet has planned for the Dervish after nearly half a year, despite the constant yelling at Anet concerning what the Dervish's problems are and how to fix them.
Clobimon
to add to a post I made earlier...
I was bored so just browsing around wiki and ended up on the page for the never implemented Xunlai Market: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Xunlai_Market
What are the chances that they are revisiting this in some capacity while redesigning party search abilities? There's probably already some speculation about it. could be a reach, but who knows.
I was bored so just browsing around wiki and ended up on the page for the never implemented Xunlai Market: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Xunlai_Market
What are the chances that they are revisiting this in some capacity while redesigning party search abilities? There's probably already some speculation about it. could be a reach, but who knows.
KingCrab
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by ErrantVenture
judging by Anet's definition of "early" I'm going to expect this update to be around june. So disappointing =(
|
Life Bringing
Derv update is supposed to be out before christmas iirc. Will be a fun few months if all these updates go live as planned
Missing HB
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by chuckles79
I willing to bet that 7 hero teams will only be from Embark Beach at first. As a test run to see if people completely stop PUG'ing.
You know, given the random PUGs I join for daily ZM/ZB, 7 heroes is not going to be as good. Oh it's nice for those of us who might want to do something in HM that's not the ZM, and GW:B content would be greatly improved. However I'm amazed at the vitriol for it. |
Here comes the Embark Bay which is supposed to fix problems , but still , i highly doubt it will have a huge impact on long term....
I told it already , it would be nice to also do something for PvP to fix inactivity( more heroes/henchs allowed ) but well... they obviously don't care
End
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Clobimon
to add to a post I made earlier...
I was bored so just browsing around wiki and ended up on the page for the never implemented Xunlai Market: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Xunlai_Market What are the chances that they are revisiting this in some capacity while redesigning party search abilities? There's probably already some speculation about it. could be a reach, but who knows. |
NerfHerder
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Clobimon
to add to a post I made earlier...
I was bored so just browsing around wiki and ended up on the page for the never implemented Xunlai Market: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Xunlai_Market What are the chances that they are revisiting this in some capacity while redesigning party search abilities? There's probably already some speculation about it. could be a reach, but who knows. |
I know they are designing an auction house for GW2, I thought I read somewhere that this feature would also work for GW1, but I cant find the source. So, it could have something to do with that as well.
bsoltan
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by NerfHerder
I know they are designing an auction house for GW2, I thought I read somewhere that this feature would also work for GW1, but I cant find the source. So, it could have something to do with that as well.
|
I think they even said that they are not going to be developing an auction house or trade system for Guild Wars.
ogre_jd
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel
That's cool
Where's my derv update :/ |
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by chuckles79
Also stop ripping on them for the pace. If everyone remembers the day HotN started, they were releasing the stuff as they finished it.
|
Darcy
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by ogre_jd
...which would probably account for all the bugs.
|
Rushin Roulette
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Life Bringing
Derv update is supposed to be out before christmas iirc. Will be a fun few months if all these updates go live as planned
|
As fro updates and promised updates. I just hope that the updates will be bugfree (Or at least not many bugs) by the time of release.
FengShuiDove
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by ogre_jd
Still, it's not as if Dervishes *need* much of an update, being death machines and all, if my Heroes are any indication.
|
And to whoever it was placing bets on their speculation, I'll drop $100 against the statement that 7 hero parties will be available only from EB. That's literally contrary to the entire purpose of both mechanics. EB is for people to group with others, and 7 heroes are for areas that people can't PUG or don't want to PUG, so areas that are (1) not ZQ and (2) difficult so trusting PUGs is foolish like DoA.
Putting 7 heroes only in EB would literally take the purpose out of both.
Amy Awien
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
... Literally every physical, including Ranger and Paragon, does better with the Scythe than a Dervish does.
|
Quote:
| Dervs are without a doubt underwhelming in almost every scenario. |
Dark-NighT
Just had this idea, Anet should place the zaishen Mission and Bounty flags in the new outpost, making it more convinient for everyone, add a rune trader so that people can setup their armor before going if needed.
vader
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by crusanderth
full heros partys = no drop for you.
gw need new loot scaling with 7 heros. |
Reformed
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
Literally every physical, including Ranger and Paragon, does better with the Scythe than a Dervish does. Dervs are without a doubt underwhelming in almost every scenario.
|
Karate Jesus
Haha, I called this a while back. No surprises here.
Obviously, John is a bit more concerned with weddings and costume money than skill updates and good content.
Oh well.....
Obviously, John is a bit more concerned with weddings and costume money than skill updates and good content.
Oh well.....
dancing gnome
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Reformed
"Will the 3-hero restriction be lifted so we can have 7 heroes in a party?
A: It is high unlikely that this would happen as long as the playerbase remains strong (which it is). I expect that it will be years before we even consider it further." Is it a reversal of policy or is the game worse off than they are willing to admit. After years of people asking for this I highly doubt pressure from a survey is what tipped the balance. |
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
NO! I don't want "something pretty awesome" in addition to the Hero update. I want the hero update as early as possible and you can add the rest of the shit you thought about later.
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by jazilla
Yes. Or for the 6th Year Anniversary update/Party.
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by NerfHerder
As to what the "awesome" thing is, we know Melee AI has been discussed. I'm also thinking some sort of hero formation orders. Something like a panic "Spread Out!" button, that makes heros scatter would be helpful in addition to formation ability. To me, Control Features > AI upgrades. But, melee still needs some special love. Of course it would only make sense to upgrade Henchies as well, why even have them if they are going to become even more useless with a full hero party.
|
Maybe the awesome thing is the dervish update which is becoming a myth rather than a vague promise.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by ogre_jd
...which would probably account for all the bugs.
|
Reformed
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by dancing gnome
It's a change in Live Team leads. The old lead personally didn't want 7 hero parties, the new lead did a survey and found out the vast majority of players disagree with the old Live Team lead.
|
Ghull Ka
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
NO! I don't want "something pretty awesome" in addition to the Hero update. I want the hero update as early as possible and you can add the rest of the shit you thought about later.
|
7 Heroes NOW please.
jazilla
I am bummed that it has taken this long to get the Dervish update rolling but we should put this into proper perspective. Wasn't the Derv/Para update part of Linsey Murdock's plan when she was in charge? She also wasn't going to do 7 heroes, and John Stumme is now that he is running things so maybe that is why the Dervish update is on the back burner. That is all well and good if plans have changed, but it would have been cool if we were dropped a line on why it isn't happening anytime soon, seeing as the wiki still says that it is an upcoming feature being added to the game.
There seems to be an information disconnect here. While I am super stoked that John is doing some things that seem really cool, it would be nice to know what is happening with the Derv/Para ideas that were supposedly in the mix months ago. Do they intentionally leave us out of the loop on this stuff, and if it isn't happening why is it still on the wiki that the Derv update is still "coming soon"?
There seems to be an information disconnect here. While I am super stoked that John is doing some things that seem really cool, it would be nice to know what is happening with the Derv/Para ideas that were supposedly in the mix months ago. Do they intentionally leave us out of the loop on this stuff, and if it isn't happening why is it still on the wiki that the Derv update is still "coming soon"?