I like playing guild wars cos it fun. I like both pve n pvp.
But i hate GW Art Contests and i'll tell u why.
Even if u work very hard(farm, trade, sc runs, etc) it would take loong time to make 5000e+.
But if u win in stupid Art Contests, you could get mini kanaxai, mkg, etc. And i think thats totally unfair. Sure anet can give away maybe 100-500e items for contest winners, but not like 10000e+.
Guild Wars is a video game, not a Art Contest. ><
If they keep up this bs, i'll just hire professional to enter the Art Contest for me next time.
GW Artcontest = Unfair rewards?
Winry Rockbell
FengShuiDove
You can obtain optimal items very cheap in this game. If the items that are worth more were stronger, it would be unfair. As it is, even items that are worth thousands of ecto are no better than a standard birthday mini, or a max damage Cleaver.
If you want unnecessarily expensive things, expect to spend unnecessary amounts of time or money, or expect to obtain them by being extraordinarily talented in some fashion.
Does it affect your game experience? Not a lick.
If you want unnecessarily expensive things, expect to spend unnecessary amounts of time or money, or expect to obtain them by being extraordinarily talented in some fashion.
Does it affect your game experience? Not a lick.
Gabriel of Ravn
Hire someone $ for fake money in a game makes perfect sense to me. Enjoy the game because it's just that only a game. Besides I enjoy seeing the artwork since I quit drawing after highschool I really enjoy seeing everyone else's creativity.
Winry Rockbell
I think Everlasting Reindeer Tonic, etc is fine for contests rewards. But definately not Mini Kanaxai or MKG.
FengShuiDove
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I think Everlasting Reindeer Tonic, etc is fine for contests rewards. But definately not Mini Kanaxai or MKG.
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It doesn't affect your enjoyment of the game even a little. Heck, because of the rarity of the items, you'll hardly ever see them. In all honesty, it's fun to see some of the super rare things you'll never have. It's like seeing a Ferrari drive by. There's not really any reason to own one, and sure you might enjoy one if you had it, but you can still drive to work in your Ford Taurus and get a little giddy when you come across one.
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(farm, trade, sc runs, etc)
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Megera
It's players who decide on prices, not Arenanet. The tonic you suggest may pretty much sell for the same price if it's limited to this art contest. So it doesn't solve anything. And a tonic would be a lot more noticeable than a inch tall doll walking around in town.
Winry Rockbell
riight maybe Anet should reward one frog(different to 3 gaile has) for next Art Contest Grand Winner. And whoever wins will become the richest person in gw by far.
Gabriel of Ravn
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riight maybe Anet should reward one frog(different to 3 gaile has) for next Art Contest Grand Winner. And whoever wins will become the richest person in gw by far.
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Originally Posted by Winry Rockbell
riight maybe Anet should reward one frog(different to 3 gaile has) for next Art Contest Grand Winner. And whoever wins will become the richest person in gw by far.
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Go QQ elsewhere....
Also note. For the price you could pay for a pro to do this for you...you might as well just go buy the gold.
I mean honestly if you argued that it messed with the market I would agree...but arguing that it's unfair is lolworthy.
Megera
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Also note. For the price you could pay for a pro to do this for you...you might as well just go buy the gold.
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Anyway, this thread just stinks of envy. Ah, such an ugly emotion.
Winry Rockbell
Just to make it clear, i'm not saying items like Kanaxai or MKG shouldn't exist.
But i think people should be able to get them through pvp or pve, not through bs art contest.
GW is a game. but if you want to make heaps of money fast in GW, all you have to do is win art contest..
But i think people should be able to get them through pvp or pve, not through bs art contest.
GW is a game. but if you want to make heaps of money fast in GW, all you have to do is win art contest..
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Just to make it clear, i'm not saying items like Kanaxai or MKG shouldn't exist.
But i think people should be able to get them through pvp or pve, not through bs art contest. |
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GW is a game. but if you want to make heaps of money fast in GW, all you have to do is win art contest..
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betterjonjon
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Plus, even if he/she pays a pro there's no guarantee that his work will win.
Anyway, this thread just stinks of envy. Ah, such an ugly emotion. |
Winry Rockbell
Well i already heard that couple people are planning on hiring pro(using multi accs) for next art contest, n they are already rich in gw.
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Well i already heard that couple people are planning on hiring pro for next art contest, n they are already rich in gw.
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Zodiac Meteor
Um, I don't get it.
People want money in Guild Wars?
Seriously, why would anyone need 10k ecto's? If anything, I'd be complaining that there is no writers category.
People want money in Guild Wars?
Seriously, why would anyone need 10k ecto's? If anything, I'd be complaining that there is no writers category.
Gabriel of Ravn
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Well i already heard that couple people are planning on hiring pro(using multi accs) for next art contest, n they are already rich in gw.
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In before close and this really needs to be closed.
dancing gnome
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If they keep up this bs, i'll just hire professional to enter the Art Contest for me next time.
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ArenaNet should make the items untradable. I have no problem with them having competitions and rewarding players with unique novelty items (read: mini pets or everlasting tonics NOT weapons/armour) but I don't understand why they are able to be traded. It makes these people instant millionaires in game for something they did outside of the game.
Make contest items customised to the character that wins them.
Winry Rockbell
I honestly think 10000e+ reward for winning Art Contest is unfair.
and think about this.
As you all know some people buy or sell GW gold with real money.
Say if you are a person that buys alot of GW gold, buying 10000e+ would cost fair bit, you could easily hire person for Art Contest with that money.
Or if you are a GW gold seller, you can also hire person for Art Contest and sell the prize for real money, and make profit. etc
and think about this.
As you all know some people buy or sell GW gold with real money.
Say if you are a person that buys alot of GW gold, buying 10000e+ would cost fair bit, you could easily hire person for Art Contest with that money.
Or if you are a GW gold seller, you can also hire person for Art Contest and sell the prize for real money, and make profit. etc
Zodiac Meteor
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I never considered this. It would be the cheapest gold purchase ever considering the insane value the art contest prizes have in game.
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As you all know some people buy or sell GW gold with real money. Say if you are a person that buys alot of GW gold, buying 10000e+ would cost fair bit, you could easily hire person for Art Contest with that money. Or if you are a GW gold seller, you can also hire person for Art Contest and sell the prize for real money, and make profit. etc |
Dedicated GW players don't give a rats butt about 10k ecto's. Tzu uses her gold mine to make Guru contests, why? Because once you bought everything, you got nothing to gain.
In my opinion, if your a dedicated Guild Wars fan, you don't need money because you already know the game inside and out and have what you want. The people that strive to win contests are probably dedicated Guild Wars fans.
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I honestly think 10000e+ reward for winning Art Contest is unfair.
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If you look back at kani's and what not it's also irrelevent seeing as though at that point prices of them were alot lower as well and have only gained price over time.
If you look at the current c/os on the two that came up when I search they c/os are 4500e...
So basically if I bought ectos from the people I know.. I could get them for a little over 600$. And theres no risk. Theres no chance that my artist will loose and what not. Better investment imo.
Winry Rockbell
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Dedicated GW players don't give a rats butt about 10k ecto's. Tzu uses her gold mine to make Guru contests, why? Because once you bought everything, you got nothing to gain.
In my opinion, if your a dedicated Guild Wars fan, you don't need money because you already know the game inside and out and have what you want. The people that strive to win contests are probably dedicated Guild Wars fans. |
Anyway i think a lot of people like highend pets but they are just too expensive. Maybe you know people with Kanaxai, Panda, IG, etc but i even know anyone with Oni.
novawhiz
The thing is- Its not a 10000e or 5000e or 1000e reward. Its a unique little fun eyecandy that it theme related to the contest.
Because there is nothing else to do in this game/spend money on in this game, yes some people will choose to pay crazy amounts for these fun little pets or tonics or w/e. But Anet isn't paying the artists with ecto. If they decide they want some stacks of ecto to gather dust in storage instead of a dumb 6inch pet to follow them around then who cares.
And no one QQd about all the GvG pets work much more than these contest pets. Or what about the Europe mini pet contest that was 100% pure lottery.
And i dont see how hiring an artist well ensure a win. Some of the simplest/stupidest creations win the contests over and over.
Because there is nothing else to do in this game/spend money on in this game, yes some people will choose to pay crazy amounts for these fun little pets or tonics or w/e. But Anet isn't paying the artists with ecto. If they decide they want some stacks of ecto to gather dust in storage instead of a dumb 6inch pet to follow them around then who cares.
And no one QQd about all the GvG pets work much more than these contest pets. Or what about the Europe mini pet contest that was 100% pure lottery.
And i dont see how hiring an artist well ensure a win. Some of the simplest/stupidest creations win the contests over and over.
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Maybe you know people with Kanaxai, Panda, IG, etc but i even know anyone with Oni.
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which last i check he got his...
Kanaxai
Panda
Vizu
zhed
shiroken
ghost
oni
naga
yeti
grawl
and
Vizu
without winning an art contest...afaik at least.
dancing gnome
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/facepalm. My dad is a sculptor, he makes money by sculpting, I could hire him but, you would have to be retarded to hire someone to enter a game contest. 10000e =/= Real world currency.
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The simple reality is the most precious resource anyone can spend in a computer game is their time - we all have a finite amount to spend in life. If it's going to take me a few hundred hours of ecto farming the same tedious content for a reward I want in game or 3 hours of my pay check to buy that amount of gold in the real world, the only thing stopping me from doing it would be the fear of getting caught. Some people like to "earn" their rewards, some don't care.
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You um, missed the part that you get banned and lose the money. Just sayin'
Dedicated GW players don't give a rats butt about 10k ecto's. Tzu uses her gold mine to make Guru contests, why? Because once you bought everything, you got nothing to gain. In my opinion, if your a dedicated Guild Wars fan, you don't need money because you already know the game inside and out and have what you want. |
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The people that strive to win contests are probably dedicated Guild Wars fans.
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Make the rewards customised and untradable and there will be no problem. Players still get unique novelty rewards for their efforts, no-one gets super rich for real world abilities. It's the fairest thing for everyone - otherwise why not just give the winners a few thousand ecto as a reward?
Winry Rockbell
Well i'm glad at least some people understand my point.
Actually hiring pro was my idea but i told everyone i know cos i thought the Art Contest rewards were unfair. n few people really liked the idea hehe
Actually hiring pro was my idea but i told everyone i know cos i thought the Art Contest rewards were unfair.
n few people really liked the idea hehe
Zodiac Meteor
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The thing is- Its not a 10000e or 5000e or 1000e reward. Its a unique little fun eyecandy that it theme related to the contest.
Because there is nothing else to do in this game/spend money on in this game, yes some people will choose to pay crazy amounts for these fun little pets or tonics or w/e. But Anet isn't paying the artists with ecto. If they decide they want some stacks of ecto to gather dust in storage instead of a dumb 6inch pet to follow them around then who cares. |
This is just QQing. Having a lot of cash only means you have access to Eyecandy. Nothing more.
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FARM
I guarantee there is a better chance to get richer by farming than 10 places in an art contest.
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I don't farm, I hate it. Yet I still make a lot of cash playing the game casually.
This is nothing but pointless QQ on 'i'm poor but other poor people can get rich fast in a easy contest'
Please close.
Boring and Pointless
Why does this thread even exist?
The rewards are fine, stop crying.
The rewards are fine, stop crying.
Zodiac Meteor
This is an event you can QQ over. It's purely luck and it feels unfair. Mainly because the drops is based on pure luck.
An art contest is not luck. You cannot sell gold without being banned. People that enter spend hours and money on the art contest to win.
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Why does this thread even exist?
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dancing gnome
My only issue is rewarding players with immense and considerable in game wealth without performing anything in game. To me there is a parallel with RMT.
I have no problem with rewarding the art contest winners with unique and novelty items like tonics and mini pets, it's a fun thing for ArenaNet to do and it showcases the talents of the Guild Wars community.
What is the problem with making them customised to the person or untradable to other people? This ensures you still reward contest winners with cool novel items without basically handing them a wad of in game cash. They still get their reward - the novelty item, not the giant wad of ecto.
Art contests shouldn't be rewarded with thousands of ecto. There are many different stances you can take on this issue. You can shoehorn in as many other arguments and issues onto this one to make whatever point you want, but fundamentally this is about rewarding art contest winners with thousands of ecto. It's not about whether gold buying is wrong, it's not about how much effort was put into a contest, it's not about why they entered the contest, it's just about whether or not ArenaNet should reward thousands of ecto for art contest winners when they have the ability to restrict the rewards to the people who earned them and prevent the instant millionaire effect they have.
I've said what I wanted to say, I can't elaborate or explain my point of view more than this and I don't need to say anything else.
I have no problem with rewarding the art contest winners with unique and novelty items like tonics and mini pets, it's a fun thing for ArenaNet to do and it showcases the talents of the Guild Wars community.
What is the problem with making them customised to the person or untradable to other people? This ensures you still reward contest winners with cool novel items without basically handing them a wad of in game cash. They still get their reward - the novelty item, not the giant wad of ecto.
Art contests shouldn't be rewarded with thousands of ecto. There are many different stances you can take on this issue. You can shoehorn in as many other arguments and issues onto this one to make whatever point you want, but fundamentally this is about rewarding art contest winners with thousands of ecto. It's not about whether gold buying is wrong, it's not about how much effort was put into a contest, it's not about why they entered the contest, it's just about whether or not ArenaNet should reward thousands of ecto for art contest winners when they have the ability to restrict the rewards to the people who earned them and prevent the instant millionaire effect they have.
I've said what I wanted to say, I can't elaborate or explain my point of view more than this and I don't need to say anything else.
Maver1ck87
Just please shut up.
Seriously your jealous at a VIDEOGAME!!?!!?!?! Zomg, meant to be played for fun, enjoy it, there will always be richer peeps than you on gw. Get over it! Enjoy looking at the artwork, but commissions of the peeps to make pictures of ur characters etc...
ALSO the prize is NOT 103241349817342812430e as you keep trying to say.
ITS A MINIPET or similar....
Tbh i'd just keep it and enjoy peeps seeing that I was one of the art contest winners ig.
Stupidest thread post ever, proves all gws players really do is whine! EVERYTHINGS NOT FAIR, BUFF THIS, NERF THAT, THATS TOO HARD, YOU WONT EXCEPT ME COS IM LOW RANKED, RANK DISCRIMINATION SUCKS, YOUR TOO RICH, ITS TOO HARD TO EARN MONEY, WHY CANT WE ALL JUST BE GIVEN 1000000e, HOM IS TOO HARD TO FILL, etc... etc...
No wonder ANET hates gws, all peeps like you do is complain!!!!!!!!
ffs
Seriously your jealous at a VIDEOGAME!!?!!?!?! Zomg, meant to be played for fun, enjoy it, there will always be richer peeps than you on gw. Get over it! Enjoy looking at the artwork, but commissions of the peeps to make pictures of ur characters etc...
ALSO the prize is NOT 103241349817342812430e as you keep trying to say.
ITS A MINIPET or similar....
Tbh i'd just keep it and enjoy peeps seeing that I was one of the art contest winners ig.
Stupidest thread post ever, proves all gws players really do is whine! EVERYTHINGS NOT FAIR, BUFF THIS, NERF THAT, THATS TOO HARD, YOU WONT EXCEPT ME COS IM LOW RANKED, RANK DISCRIMINATION SUCKS, YOUR TOO RICH, ITS TOO HARD TO EARN MONEY, WHY CANT WE ALL JUST BE GIVEN 1000000e, HOM IS TOO HARD TO FILL, etc... etc...
No wonder ANET hates gws, all peeps like you do is complain!!!!!!!!
ffs
Winry Rockbell
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This is an event you can QQ over. It's purely luck and it feels unfair. Mainly because the drops is based on pure luck. |
Problem with Art Contest the prize is way too high, MKG was over 30000e last year if i recall correctly, and Kanaxai is well just insainly expensive.
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Make the rewards customised and untradable and there will be no problem. Players still get unique novelty rewards for their efforts, no-one gets super rich for real world abilities. It's the fairest thing for everyone - otherwise why not just give the winners a few thousand ecto as a reward?
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Lasareth
What is so threatening about 20 people becoming rich(er) in a game where money has little to no significance besides bragging rights. Deeply concerned citizens, allow me to propose a solution to your quandary: Pretend to yourself the contest never happened. Let time pass, the contest will end. Congratulations, you made it. Things are fine, the earth is still orbiting the sun and you are still playing your game. It is not as bad as you think it is. Jealousy is self-destructive, you are only hurting yourself if you care this much about the prizes.
And, some more bad news. (skip past the rest of my post if you are easily spooked, as this one is a shocker) Not as many people care about what you are wearing, what pet you have out, or what your title is, as you think. Those ectos will not let you lead a more fulfilled life.
I agree. It's taken me quite a while to learn to type properly using only my tongue and nose.
And, some more bad news. (skip past the rest of my post if you are easily spooked, as this one is a shocker) Not as many people care about what you are wearing, what pet you have out, or what your title is, as you think. Those ectos will not let you lead a more fulfilled life.
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Gabriel of Ravn
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What is so threatening about 20 people becoming rich(er) in a game where money has little to no significance besides bragging rights. Deeply concerned citizens, allow me to propose a solution to your quandary: Pretend to yourself the contest never happened. Let time pass, the contest will end. Congratulations, you made it. Things are fine, the earth is still orbiting the sun and you are still playing your game. It is not as bad as you think it is. Jealousy is self-destructive, you are only hurting yourself if you care this much about the prizes.
And, some more bad news. (skip past the rest of my post if you are easily spooked, as this one is a shocker) Not as many people care about what you are wearing, what pet you have out, or what your title is, as you think. Those ectos will not let you lead a more fulfilled life. |
nothing else needs to be said
Stapler Pirate
People play Guild Wars for the sole reason of getting loads of virtual currency to buy rare items? And then complain when Anet rewards people with rare items for doing something fun?
How dare you Anet! If I had it my way you would removed all the textures and text.
How dare you Anet! If I had it my way you would removed all the textures and text.
lemming
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What is the problem with making them customised to the person or untradable to other people? This ensures you still reward contest winners with cool novel items without basically handing them a wad of in game cash. They still get their reward - the novelty item, not the giant wad of ecto.
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Shadowmere
Are you people serious? Would you rather Arena Net not bother with community contests? It's a fun contest to bring out the holiday spirit and artistic talent in the community and all you can do is complain that the prizes are "too good"? Give me a break, it's like complaining about the lottery, do you think game shows are unfair too?
Winry Rockbell
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What is so threatening about 20 people becoming rich(er) in a game where money has little to no significance besides bragging rights.
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Personally i farmed many of zkeys through pvp n heaps of speedclears but i still dont have enough to fill up hom.
But if you win the stupid Art Contest, u make more than what most people make in 5 years. How is that fair?
Gabriel of Ravn
And to those who bring up RMT ectos are like what $40 for a stack I think is what I see in game with those little bots. Even if you were to sell 5000e for cash that's like $800 whoopie a freaking weekend getaway QQ. No one is going to retire or make a semi decent living off RMT on gw.