Does it exist?
GhostKairi
I was going through the "Post Your Awesome Weapons Thread!" and it jogged my memory that Tramp had an amazing Req8 Colossal Scimitar. Think these could still drop? I might try epic no life farming for one if so :P
Bright Star Shine
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Originally Posted by GhostKairi
I was going through the "Post Your Awesome Weapons Thread!" and it jogged my memory that Tramp had an amazing Req8 Colossal Scimitar. Think these could still drop? I might try epic no life farming for one if so :P
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Also, I can quite confidentially say that blue and white inscr daggers DO NOT drop in max damage. I have about 80 screenshots atm all from daggers that dropped in DoA, all white or blue, and up to q12, but NONE max damage... Unless someone proves me different, I think we can take this as fact..
extra bacon
Question: Does anyone own, or has anyone seen, a gold max damage req 8 Summit Axe with an inherent +5 energy? (Pic would be nice! 
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Pleikki
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Originally Posted by extra bacon
Question: Does anyone own, or has anyone seen, a gold max damage req 8 Summit Axe with an inherent +5 energy? (Pic would be nice!
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If there was one, guess it would go for nice caash, kinda cool skin
_Todeshand_
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Question: Does anyone own, or has anyone seen, a gold max damage req 8 Summit Axe with an inherent +5 energy? (Pic would be nice!
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Btt: Tramp's Colossal could be an August 2007 (EotN Release Event Time) drop. We think (Yawg and me at least talked about that a bit) that for the time of the event drops in all GW could have behaved kinda "strange". But just speculation here.... so maybe we'll never know.
Gutemuh
The infamous EotN Release Event - hmm, maybe I´am a half glas full guy, but I believe/hope that not every Q8 freak-item with an inscription stems from this once in a livetime event.
It is still possible in this game to go to places where nobody/not many went before and maybe there with more patience than the others you have your "special" item.
I once leveled myself to the "Legendary Defender of Cantha" (LvL 20 in the Cantha Tut BEFORE all primary missions, no it´s not a real title) just to farm the Cantha primary quests in HM.
I did not find the a Q8 20/10 Bo-Staff I was looking for, but hey ...
If you want to find items nobody found before, than you have to go to places nobody went before.
At this moment I have two such places aktive, just think and be patient.
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dito
This should made a sticky to everyone in the buy section with the words "steel daggers" in the title Would save some time.
It is still possible in this game to go to places where nobody/not many went before and maybe there with more patience than the others you have your "special" item.
I once leveled myself to the "Legendary Defender of Cantha" (LvL 20 in the Cantha Tut BEFORE all primary missions, no it´s not a real title) just to farm the Cantha primary quests in HM.
I did not find the a Q8 20/10 Bo-Staff I was looking for, but hey ...
If you want to find items nobody found before, than you have to go to places nobody went before.
At this moment I have two such places aktive, just think and be patient.
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Also, I can quite confidentially say that blue and white inscr daggers DO NOT drop in max damage. I have about 80 screenshots atm all from daggers that dropped in DoA, all white or blue, and up to q12, but NONE max damage... Unless someone proves me different, I think we can take this as fact.. |
This should made a sticky to everyone in the buy section with the words "steel daggers" in the title
Would save some time.
novawhiz
chaos axe q8 +5e?
Dont think ive ever seen q7 max choas axe, why wouldn't they exist?
Dont think ive ever seen q7 max choas axe, why wouldn't they exist?
Pleikki
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Originally Posted by novawhiz
chaos axe q8 +5e?
Dont think ive ever seen q7 max choas axe, why wouldn't they exist? |
And no, dont think max r7 chaos axe would excist. r7 axes overall are really rare so for rarer skins not even worth dreaming about
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by extra bacon
Question: Does anyone own, or has anyone seen, a gold max damage req 8 Summit Axe with an inherent +5 energy? (Pic would be nice!
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No would be the answer.
PS. Luny
GhostKairi
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Originally Posted by _Todeshand_
Infamous Tyrian req8 5nrg weps (still looking for my shorty sword btw!)
Btt: Tramp's Colossal could be an August 2007 (EotN Release Event Time) drop. We think (Yawg and me at least talked about that a bit) that for the time of the event drops in all GW could have behaved kinda "strange". But just speculation here.... so maybe we'll never know. |
Another question: Do Colossal Scimy's drop in NM? Ive heard they only drop in HM, but heard they drop from both from other sources.
Pleikki
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Originally Posted by GhostKairi
Hmm intresting about the Colossal. Would be worth asking Tramp whenever his about. Id love to know if he got it as a drop or bought it. Would really love one of them, not because of how much itd sell, but cause its overall leetness :P
Another question: Do Colossal Scimy's drop in NM? Ive heard they only drop in HM, but heard they drop from both from other sources. |
Im curious were r8 elemental swords gone. there used be few around in 2006 befor eotn release, Dont think seen one for sale since 2007
@Edit, Just searched my old threads as i remember i asked PC for r8 eel sword last time saw one. it was December 2007
GhostKairi
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Originally Posted by Pleikki
i belive he bought it, also they drop nm. If u played at nf release Colossal scimitars & elemental swords were really rare and wanted. HM didnt excist then. Im positively sure r8 colossal could drop from corsais warriors in normal mode.. But ofc extreamly rare
Im curious were r8 elemental swords gone. there used be few around in 2006 befor eotn release, Dont think seen one for sale since 2007 @Edit, Just searched my old threads as i remember i asked PC for r8 eel sword last time saw one. it was December 2007 |
I also happen to know someone who has a Q8 Elemental Sword
EDIT: There level 17 in NM, so if they do drop in NM, this would be best bet for a Req8.
Icecream
I sold a r8 elemental sword a long time ago to one of my friends, now it's sitting on an unactive account :/
Bright Star Shine
Yes, we know q8 inscr swords still drop, I've got one myself, but we're talking about tyrian skinned q8 uniscr +5e weapons. Never seen one myself :P
Pleikki
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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
Yes, we know q8 inscr swords still drop, I've got one myself, but we're talking about tyrian skinned q8 uniscr +5e weapons. Never seen one myself :P
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superraptors
xunlai has a q8 +5 fel which is pretty awesome
Da Tru Legend
There are no Prophecies-only skins for swords that drop from monsters; they are all core skins. Which means that, potentially, the Wingblade and Fellblade mentioned actually dropped in Factions. This would mean that you can probably get any sword skin that still drops from monsters as one with max damage, Q8, and +5 energy (or insc).
~Tru
~Tru
Bright Star Shine
2 New ones from me:
This one is on a lot of people's minds I think: Is there a q8 +5e Shortsword?
And second one: Are there/could there have been q6/15 shield pre-NF? Because back then nonmax = shit, so it might have been that a lot of nice q6/15 shields dropped, but people just went 'meh, non max' and merched em...
This one is on a lot of people's minds I think: Is there a q8 +5e Shortsword?
And second one: Are there/could there have been q6/15 shield pre-NF? Because back then nonmax = shit, so it might have been that a lot of nice q6/15 shields dropped, but people just went 'meh, non max' and merched em...
_Todeshand_
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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
This one is on a lot of people's minds I think: Is there a q8 +5e Shortsword? |
Pleikki
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Originally Posted by _Todeshand_
I've asked that before. Also I know at least one Prophecies-only sword skin @Tru: Shadow Blade. Wiki lists it as core, but it's only available in "areas" that were around before Factions release, so I'd count it being Prophecies
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For shortsword. Sure its possible. personally havent seen one but ofc cud be possible. and still even dropable
Cleavage
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Originally Posted by salvatore888
nice thread idea
I'm really wondering if/how many req.8 dragon staves exist, either prenerf with perfect mods or any req.8 20/20(??seems impossible) and 20/10(more possible) ones after nerf. Any SS's would be highly appreciated too. Cheers! |
salvatore888
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Originally Posted by Cleavage
There are no req 8 11-22 Dragon staves. They never did drop. There was a claim but it was proved a lie.
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Although it could have been possible since Factions was released
on 28th of April 2006 and staff nerf occured at 25 October 2006, so it was a full 6 months period when they could have possibly dropped.
Hmm, altho there should have been at least one in the market in that occasion,even a "bad" -20% poison single modded one.
Pleikki
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Originally Posted by Cleavage
There are no req 8 11-22 Dragon staves. They never did drop. There was a claim but it was proved a lie.
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The one i saw in kama was Single mod r8 fire 10hsr without hct inherent..
Also now lil ago there was that r8 10/10 df one on guru, and it wasnt fake either on what u did bid even
Heres screen
system.fan
indeed... i saw the singlemodded fire one too =)
salvatore888
Dimmuborgir Satan
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25 OCT 2006, the denravi bow (+10 armor) was nerfed...
was it only removed from crafter or were patched all of those yet existing ones?
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are there any known q7 +5energy jade axes? :-)
25 OCT 2006, the denravi bow (+10 armor) was nerfed...
was it only removed from crafter or were patched all of those yet existing ones?
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are there any known q7 +5energy jade axes? :-)
Bright Star Shine
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are there any known q7 +5energy jade axes? :-) |
Yawgmoth
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25 OCT 2006, the denravi bow (+10 armor) was nerfed... was it only removed from crafter or were patched all of those yet existing ones? |
The 25 OCT 2006 update did change the existing bows this way:
(I've written 26th Oct there because here in Europe it was already 26th when this update went live).
I still have the bow after the change (may be the last one in existance).
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novawhiz
q7 eternal/magmas shield with -2/+10?
and i think there was a q7 eternal -2/-2 i remember seeing but maybe im getting mixed up?
and i think there was a q7 eternal -2/-2 i remember seeing but maybe im getting mixed up?
_Todeshand_
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q7 eternal/magmas shield with -2/+10?
and i think there was a q7 eternal -2/-2 i remember seeing but maybe im getting mixed up? |
Da Tru Legend
I'm almost certain I've seen a Q7 max gold -2/-2 Eternal on Guru High End multiple times, last time was a year or a year and a half ago I believe. I haven't seen a purple or gold Q7 max Magmas though.
~Tru
~Tru
Pleikki
Ive never seen or heard of r7 eternal shield. But i do remember seeing max gold r7 signle mod magmas, cant remember who has it tho..
For r7 +5e Jade axe, No, it wont excist, dont think any canthan r7 axes exist with higher dmg then 6-27
For r7 +5e Jade axe, No, it wont excist, dont think any canthan r7 axes exist with higher dmg then 6-27
GhostKairi
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Originally Posted by Pleikki
Ive never seen or heard of r7 eternal shield. But i do remember seeing max gold r7 signle mod magmas, cant remember who has it tho..
For r7 +5e Jade axe, No, it wont excist, dont think any canthan r7 axes exist with higher dmg then 6-27 |
Bright Star Shine
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Originally Posted by GhostKairi
I really dont get this. And everyone says it. We have Req7 Canthan Swords/Shields and what not, but none of the others? (can understand no q7 bows) I just think there not on the market because the silent majority may of aquired them. Its pretty stupid if only certain things drop in req7. Thats like a developer saying yeah, its possible for q11 war hammer to drop only at that or above, but q8 long sword is totally possible.
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Anet still insists that every weapon can still drop in q8 max, but that's a load of bullcrap and we know it..
Pleikki
For some things thats complete mystery, but yawgmoth sometime said anet just changed code from 7->8 and 8->9
r7 bows newer existed. but r8 did. So old r8 = r9 now, Due that possibly r8 bows wouldnt drop anymore..
Daggers same as above as far as i know
Staff & wands did drop r7, but damn rarely, just few of both excisted as far as i know, Possibly was just for really short period of time and got changed after wards to drop r8? Then got from r8->r9
hammers & axes, r7 did drop. real rare tho, Not many excisting. still handful tho. if it was changed from 7->8, idk why r8 wouldnt drop?
Swords, Shields, offhands. All used drop r7, all still drop r8
r7 bows newer existed. but r8 did. So old r8 = r9 now, Due that possibly r8 bows wouldnt drop anymore..
Daggers same as above as far as i know
Staff & wands did drop r7, but damn rarely, just few of both excisted as far as i know, Possibly was just for really short period of time and got changed after wards to drop r8? Then got from r8->r9
hammers & axes, r7 did drop. real rare tho, Not many excisting. still handful tho. if it was changed from 7->8, idk why r8 wouldnt drop?
Swords, Shields, offhands. All used drop r7, all still drop r8
cataphract
Apparently there are +5/-1 vampiric axe hafts and I'm a noob for saying there aren't any.
Yawgmoth
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Originally Posted by GhostKairi
I really dont get this. And everyone says it. We have Req7 Canthan Swords/Shields and what not, but none of the others? (can understand no q7 bows) I just think there not on the market because the silent majority may of aquired them. Its pretty stupid if only certain things drop in req7. Thats like a developer saying yeah, its possible for q11 war hammer to drop only at that or above, but q8 long sword is totally possible.
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Originally Posted by Pleikki
For some things thats complete mystery, but yawgmoth sometime said anet just changed code from 7->8 and 8->9
r7 bows newer existed. but r8 did. So old r8 = r9 now, Due that possibly r8 bows wouldnt drop anymore.. Daggers same as above as far as i know Staff & wands did drop r7, but damn rarely, just few of both excisted as far as i know, Possibly was just for really short period of time and got changed after wards to drop r8? Then got from r8->r9 hammers & axes, r7 did drop. real rare tho, Not many excisting. still handful tho. if it was changed from 7->8, idk why r8 wouldnt drop? Swords, Shields, offhands. All used drop r7, all still drop r8 |
First, Anet didn't specifically made certain weapons to drop at low reqs and others not by design. I strongly believe that the devs who originally coded the core weapon stat generation formulas back in 2004 weren't aware that the system will be able to produce weapons with maximum base stats and a requirement of 1 less than the pre-set minimum for a max item_level.
After release there was only ONE update relevant to item requirements, it was the 27 Oct 2006 update, and all it did was a change of the preset minimum possible requirements on a MAX ITEM_LEVEL weapon from 8 to 9.
That's all.
The possible stats of weapons at lower levels are generated by INTERPOLATION between the pre-set min and max values.
There was NO direct change from 7 to 8. The observed change is a RESULT of that interpolation and it differs for different weapon types because they have different level ranges at which they can drop max stats.
Before the "req-nerf" update the 3 weapon classes: Offhands, Shields and Swords used to drop with max stats and a req. 7 and that happened pretty often, the window of opportunity (the level range at which they can drop max stats) for them was pretty big so it remained open after the req-nerf.
There were other weapon types which happened to drop with max stats and req.7 - Axes, Hammers, Staffs, Wands, (I also have a screenshot of gold max req.7 daggers but can't verify if so assuming it's fake) but all those had an EXTREMELLY SMALL chance to be generated, an ultra thin window of opportunity. Because of how interpolation works the window of opportunity for them got easily closed, it didn't get even more narrow but just got closed completely upon the change of the 8 into 9 at the top level.
If it's hard to understand I'll try to make a graphical explanation.
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Apparently there are +5/-1 vampiric axe hafts and I'm a noob for saying there aren't any.
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Bright Star Shine
But then, why didn't they want q7 or q8's to exist in the first place? As long as they kept that window of opportunity as small and narrow as possible, it could still occasionally generate some pretty cool stuff, and it would make the game a little bit more interesting..
novawhiz
Yagmoth, you need to post a complete guide to the history of guild wars weapons 2004-11. Everytime i read a post of your i learn something new
Bright Star Shine
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Yagmoth, you need to post a complete guide to the history of guild wars weapons 2004-11. Everytime i read a post of your i learn something new
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