PvP Update - June 2nd, 2010

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

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Originally Posted by Im in SPAMADAN View Post
ive seen the following ing so far:

el champ of balth

el ghostly priest

mini ghostly priest

envoy weps dropped IN GREEN FORM
ooo interesting to bad no pics. id love to see the weapons being held in someone's hands. its hard to see them via the emote and at the reward guy.

Pugs Not Drugs

Pugs Not Drugs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

this was an awesome update

finally i can ab again, used to love doing it

also, hopefully this will make ha active again


btw, those of you arguing about the glad title thing, take it to this post i posted a while back please, dont want to see this thread evolving into a flame war, especially when the update is so sweet

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/c...tml?t=10477202

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

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Originally Posted by Pugs Not Drugs View Post
btw, those of you arguing about the glad title thing, take it to this post i posted a while back please, dont want to see this thread evolving into a flame war, especially when the update is so sweet

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/c...tml?t=10477202
Thanks for reminding me, I went ahead and closed all of the most recent threads in Sardelac about the title, so we shouldn't have to deal with any suggestions pertaining to the new system.

On a more general note, it looks like I'm going to go back to playing Minecraft tomorrow. I was generally looking forward to grinding up all of the Z-Coins for one of these envoy weapons, because it gave me an excuse to start playing again, toying around with the seven hero builds, and obtaining survivor on my main though normal gameplay. However, since the coins are tradeable now, I don't feel like farming up something that is going to be very easily purchased. So, I will probably give GW a rest again until the new storyline content is released.

Good luck to everyone who is going to chase after the #1 GvG spot for that emote, since that is now likely to be the most prestigious award for PvP and might actually mean something, instead of trims you can buy easily or titles you can farm.

melissa b

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

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Originally Posted by wiki
New account-based PvP quests are available from the Zaishen Recruiter in the Great Temple of Balthazar and all major cities.
Sounds good, let people new-to-pvp players test it out

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Originally Posted by wiki
The Titan quests are now available as Hard Mode quests.
Not very exciting...meh

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Originally Posted by wiki
Typing "/guild", "/ladder", or "/champion" in chat will now trigger an emote based on guild ladder ranking.
ok, new emote looks cool...now let pve have an emote track not obtainable through pvp

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Originally Posted by wiki
Codex Arena will now shift the available skills once per day.
don't see this drawing more people in to play it

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Originally Posted by wiki
Zaishen Strongboxes have been added to guild vs. guild, Heroes' Ascent, Random Arena, and Codex Arena.
This is pretty significant "reward creep" ....PVPers will be thrilled but at the expense of PVEers who will have for example their consumable farms devalued. Consumable titles will be much easier to obtain now which goes with will make most players happy. The new tonics are nice and the new minipets will make the people that missed getting 6th year minis happy. Looks like Ghostly Hero will take a hit in value.

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Originally Posted by wiki
Alliance spies have been spotted in Alliance PvP outposts; talking to them will transport you to the opposing outpost.
Very nice and convenient.

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Originally Posted by wiki
Players can now trigger previously earned Zaishen rank emotes by typing "/zaishen #" or "/zrank #" in chat.
Players can now trigger previously earned Hero title emotes by typing "/rank #" or "/fame #" in chat.
Hmmm so you can fake your level, R15 spams bambi on fallen opponent, might be fun.

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Originally Posted by wiki
Alliance PvP formats now reward Imperial faction.
People that maxed their titles now have more incentive to play. Also they can hold more faction since the max imperial is based on the sum of the max lux and max kur which is nice. Also, you can play any side which will allow more fun.

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Originally Posted by wiki
Zaishen Coins are now tradable items.
Hmmm, will zcoins be the newest currency to challenge ecto and zkeys?? WTB xxx 100 gcoins? This change provides a lot of flexibility to zfarmers and purchasers in general. Will Rit Tomes drop in value?

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Originally Posted by wiki
Exchange rates with Zaishen Coin collectors have been changed for several items.
"Rewards Creep"

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Originally Posted by wiki
Jessie Llam now offers new items.
Tolkano now offers new weapon skins.
The new Scythe looks huge, very impressive. Do you think the other skins missing, like wands, will show up later?

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Originally Posted by wiki
The Codex Title now awards points for every consecutive win in Codex Arena, starting with the second.
The Gladiator title now awards points for every consecutive win in Random Arena, starting with the second.
Will make the casual player and less experienced pvper happy. I like it.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

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I rather like the update, even though I'm not big on PvP normally. It gives more of an incentive for non-PvP players to give it a try a bit more. I decided to jump in and do some RA and got a 7 or 8 win streak, which is pretty neat, never managed that before.

Also, trolling people whining about it in GToB is far too much fun.

Im in SPAMADAN

Im in SPAMADAN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2008

2k09 - golden gvg days

[uMbO]

W/E

I just want a gladiator emote now please !!

macke

macke

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Serbia-Belgrade

W/

Oh, il w8 a lil longer for a 5k cupcake, its to much clicking for me atm, and i am realy hoping for some VQ wildcards in the next update! It's to much stupid and boring titles anyway, Anet is giving full hom in the next few updates, just you wait! Thumbs up for new pixels.

VikingHaag

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2011

Rio de Janeiro

[Lost]

Mo/

ok, i was starting to play PvP more actively to get a glad rank..... thx anet now it will take me forever to get a showable pvp title

X-Plosiv

X-Plosiv

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

[Pink]

R/

I hope they add some more rewards like stoneboxes, but for some PvE.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed RA, but when i entered Codex, already you had to be specific profession, but OK, i changed and did that.

But to enter HA? Nothing except if you are running some special build.

Would be nice if there would be quests where you could get 1 of those?
Make 2 quests per day, and that would satisfy a lot of players I guess.

Malchior Devenholm

Malchior Devenholm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Dragon Arena!!!

Pshycho Ninjas [oGod] | Vent Rage [vR] | Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

Why is everyone saying they need strongboxes for PvE?

What are dungeons/elite areas...?

ManMadeGod

ManMadeGod

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

cool update, but...

Update - Thursday, June 2, 2011
Skill Changes

For more information on these changes, please see the Developer Updates page.


What are the skills changes actually? Developer Updates page doesn't say anything about that.

Our Virus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2011

The Capital [Para]

P/

Yup. Now I just make a pvp monk and throw on a couple hex removes and stances and just go ra, no runes no shield sets. Have gotten atleast 5 wins on every single run so far, and alot of respect (after being trolled for one staff set) for being such a good red bar'er. I'm glad pve noons are taking a liking to pvp now

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

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One thing I am not happy about is RA. The changes to RA didn't do squat to stop leavers and syncers. With a strongbox at every 5 consecutive wins there is enough reason for people to keep doing these things.

RedDog91

RedDog91

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Farming for Nick gifts

R/

The /aion emote recharge time was removed btw
infinite black wings.

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanier View Post
Im not too big on the envoy weapon idea. We don't need more high-end weapons for the rich. If they add new weapon skins, I'd like to see them be affordable for everyone.
You can still get them through questing though, but I agree players who are wealthy have an overwhelming advantage.

NerfHerder

NerfHerder

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2010

Nice to see casual PvP getting some love. Any chance of fixing the Carriers from getting stuck?

@FoxBat, I thought the same thing about imperial faction. We'll see. It could be a good incentive for those working on thier Zaishen Rank or looking for PvP rewards to do WoC.

Speaking of WoC, whats up with that?

Horus Moonlight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Me/Mo

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Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
You can still get them through questing though, but I agree players who are wealthy have an overwhelming advantage.
Item skins are the 1 form of vanity in GW. ANet would be retarded to make it affordable to everyone. Hell, make it 1000 GCoins and 100 Plat.

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

Does anyone know if the new pvp quests for ra, ca, ha, gvg...will reset daily or are they one shot deals?

ChrisCo

ChrisCo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

[ToR]

W/

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
Does anyone know if the new pvp quests for ra, ca, ha, gvg...will reset daily or are they one shot deals?
Im wondering the same thing

Gabriel of Ravn

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
Does anyone know if the new pvp quests for ra, ca, ha, gvg...will reset daily or are they one shot deals?
From the dev notes

Along with our many additions that enhance the existing experience and reward PvP players, we want to encourage and guide new players into PvP gametypes. So, if you like the sound of these rewards but don't have a lot of PvP experience, we've added a series of simple quests that send players into the Battle Isles to try their hand at the various arenas. These quests also give a taste of the new Zaishen Strongbox rewards in this update and can each be completed once per account. Players can start these quests by speaking with Zenjal [Zaishen Recruiter] in the Great Temple of Balthazar or any port city.

Del

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I know, ask Lynette.

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Originally Posted by X-Plosiv View Post
I hope they add some more rewards like stoneboxes, but for some PvE.
Gift of the traveler, coffer of whispers, birthday gifts, chests. PvE Doesn't need anything new.

NerfHerder

NerfHerder

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2010

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
Does anyone know if the new pvp quests for ra, ca, ha, gvg...will reset daily or are they one shot deals?
They sound like one shot deals, according to the developer notes. I kinda wish they were daily. A few strongboxes a day might help more casual PvP'rs to get interested in other areas of PvP.

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel of Ravn View Post
From the dev notes

Along with our many additions that enhance the existing experience and reward PvP players, we want to encourage and guide new players into PvP gametypes. So, if you like the sound of these rewards but don't have a lot of PvP experience, we've added a series of simple quests that send players into the Battle Isles to try their hand at the various arenas. These quests also give a taste of the new Zaishen Strongbox rewards in this update and can each be completed once per account. Players can start these quests by speaking with Zenjal [Zaishen Recruiter] in the Great Temple of Balthazar or any port city.
Well that stinks... I guess I'm done pvping again...although it was sorta fun running after the monk in HA yelling ""I've never played this b4!" as I pesterd the crap out of him as he raged calling me every name in the book....lol

Tbh the quests were the only reason I and most of my guild pvp'd today...I am sure there are a very large amount of ppl in the same boat and as such I would expect in new influx to pvp to drop off as ppl complete the "1 time only quests".

If they made them at least reset weekly I am sure it would keep a healthy amount of ppl in the formats.

Gabriel of Ravn

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
Well that stinks... I guess I'm done pvping again...although it was sorta fun running after the monk in HA yelling ""I've never played this b4!" as I pesterd the crap out of him as he raged calling me every name in the book....lol

Tbh the quests were the only reason I and most of my guild pvp'd today...I am sure there are a very large amount of ppl in the same boat and as such I would expect in new influx to pvp to drop off as ppl complete the "1 time only quests".

If they made them at least reset weekly I am sure it would keep a healthy amount of ppl in the formats.
Haha well I was considering PvP but guildless and my activity is next to non existent outside of treasure chests once in a while. Sounds like an awesome time though.

coil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

cool thanks stumme

edit:

actually, GW is starting to remind me of Global Agenda...gz stumme & co.

Ramei Arashi

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2009

The Geezer Guild (GZR)

E/

You would have to be crazy to do The Last Day Dawns in HM.

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Seems RA points were rejiggered. FOund myself R3 Glad suddenly. Now I don't have to mess with it for HoM. Like this update.

StormX

StormX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Mo

woah wooah this is major but a few things occurred to me

1) if you can convert kurz to luxon faction, isn't everyone going to jump ship from luxon FA to kurz? cause I sure would. And everyone from kurz JQ will change to Lux causing longer wait times.

2) are these new weapons displayable in HoM otherwise I dont see the point of farming for them

ok going to check it out now

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

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1) if you can convert kurz to luxon faction, isn't everyone going to jump ship from luxon FA to kurz? cause I sure would. And everyone from kurz JQ will change to Lux causing longer wait times.
You get Imperial faction now, which you can exchange for Kurzick, Luxon, or Balthazar; you can't exchange Kurzick for Luxon nor vice-versa. I didn't play any FA today, but I did play about a dozen JQ matches, and I was able to get into them very quickly and a few times I'd have someone on my team that the last match I was playing against.

FA has bigger problems and I don't think this is going to help it much, which is unfortunate because I do like it a lot.

Jeydra

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

I like the update, looking forward to playing PvP.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

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Originally Posted by StormX View Post
1) if you can convert kurz to luxon faction, isn't everyone going to jump ship from luxon FA to kurz?
Sure. Instead of fixing the problems with the arena, which would probably necessitate a redesign of the entire arena, players can now choose to play on the side which they believe has the best advantage and get faction for either side while doing it.

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And everyone from kurz JQ will change to Lux causing longer wait times.
Maybe this would happen if Luxons knew how to win JQ.

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2) are these new weapons displayable in HoM
No.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

The logic of lowering consecutives required for arena titles, and then adding a big cash reward for 5 consecs, escapes me.

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

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Originally Posted by FoxBat View Post
The logic of lowering consecutives required for arena titles, and then adding a big cash reward for 5 consecs, escapes me.
It escapes me as well. Instead people have even more reason to leave for better teams and sync RA.

Also I don't get the new gold Envoy staffs having 10% HCT instead of 20% HSR as the inherent but this is probably a bug though.

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Not sure how this slipped past.

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Originally Posted by Lanier View Post
people actually care about rank emotes? I thought the draw toward rank emotes had fallen awhile back?
HA rank emotes are meaningless because:

1. The quality of play in HA is far lower than that of even mid-tier GvG.

2. HA rewards straight-up time investment. Grinding GvG ladder cannot be the exclusive fashion in which one obtains rating - after a certain point, it becomes nearly useless. Sustained excellence in ATs/mATs is required.

3. HA titles aren't exclusive. At all. The idea that only a handful of people in the world are going to legitimately have access to the rank 1 guild emote is kind of a cool one.

Shadowkiller Seth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Die Nordmannen

R/W

For the people who cant log in right now


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKNLVXzXeAI

The Emotes

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

I wonder why PvP "intro" quests reward XP instead of Balth faction ...

tummlykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

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Originally Posted by Shadowkiller Seth View Post
For the people who cant log in right now


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKNLVXzXeAI

The Emotes
Is it a bug that everyone, regardless of rank (or even if they are in a guild at all) have access to all 4 emotes?

Ranger Jaap

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

i like the gladiator change, makes syncing less usefull and gives new players a better chance at obtaining gladiator points.

Del

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I know, ask Lynette.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger Jaap View Post
i like the gladiator change, makes syncing less usefull and gives new players a better chance at obtaining gladiator points.
It doesn't make syncing any less useful, it just makes it yield more points. And the addition of the strongboxes makes syncing profitable as well.

Ranger Jaap

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Del View Post
It doesn't make syncing any less useful, it just makes it yield more points. And the addition of the strongboxes makes syncing profitable as well.
i forgot about the strongboxes