Winds of Change preview
BenjZee
Pretty sure someone else will be allowed to push the "big button" for the update to go live anyway.
Swingline
According to the quote in post #127 we should see WoC sometime in the next week but it can be pushed back. Key word in the quote is "should". Lets keep our fingers crossed all goes well.
Drelias Melaku
Oo, I've been waiting for Winds of Change! I'm so excited. It sounds like they put a lot of effort into it, so it should be worth the wait.
I hope. I need something to get me back into the game.
I hope. I need something to get me back into the game.
syronj
Looks as if I'll have to try harder to finish "Factions". The farthest my characters have gotten is working for the Luxons or Kurzicks. (I've been working on "Nightfall" and EotN at the same time, and am bogged down in the Dunes of Despair for "Prophecies".) Winds of Change will be good, though, from all accounts so far.
shinta_himura
"What a storm of angst. Not quite what I was anticipating in the way of an excited reception."
Oh boo-hoo.
Of all the images they allowed to be released to the public, they show us their new costume. The art and design team has definitely improved over the years, but there will never be another set of armor in this game that can be obtained without the cash shop. Some of us are also tired of the constant flares of hype and excitement coming from people who just eat up any new information without analyzing it.
The idea that discontent and "angst" should not be allowed in a community - specifically in a place where the community is supposed to discuss things - is cancerous and detrimental, and is part of the reason why this community is so lack-luster.
White Mantle much?
Oh boo-hoo.
Of all the images they allowed to be released to the public, they show us their new costume. The art and design team has definitely improved over the years, but there will never be another set of armor in this game that can be obtained without the cash shop. Some of us are also tired of the constant flares of hype and excitement coming from people who just eat up any new information without analyzing it.
The idea that discontent and "angst" should not be allowed in a community - specifically in a place where the community is supposed to discuss things - is cancerous and detrimental, and is part of the reason why this community is so lack-luster.
White Mantle much?
Iuris
Sigh. The speculation that the Wind of change would start with the dragon festival was not accurate. Sigh. Seems I'll have my new computer before WoC starts...
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
i sure like to see new armors, but i hope it'll be some longer than WiK.... and more advanced than just several quests you gotta do and done...
its fun to see it would change some spawns or something in certain areas
also, what i really hope for, is that it wont have any solo part, so that the bit multiplaying whats left in GW, can be used.... or just heroes in case you cant find anyone nice ...
its fun to see it would change some spawns or something in certain areas
also, what i really hope for, is that it wont have any solo part, so that the bit multiplaying whats left in GW, can be used.... or just heroes in case you cant find anyone nice ...
Swingline
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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa
i sure like to see new armors, but i hope it'll be some longer than WiK.... and more advanced than just several quests you gotta do and done...
its fun to see it would change some spawns or something in certain areas also, what i really hope for, is that it wont have any solo part, so that the bit multiplaying whats left in GW, can be used.... or just heroes in case you cant find anyone nice ... |
thedarkmarine
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Originally Posted by shinta_himura
"What a storm of angst. Not quite what I was anticipating in the way of an excited reception."
Oh boo-hoo. Of all the images they allowed to be released to the public, they show us their new costume. The art and design team has definitely improved over the years, but there will never be another set of armor in this game that can be obtained without the cash shop. Some of us are also tired of the constant flares of hype and excitement coming from people who just eat up any new information without analyzing it. |
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The idea that discontent and "angst" should not be allowed in a community - specifically in a place where the community is supposed to discuss things - is cancerous and detrimental, and is part of the reason why this community is so lack-luster. White Mantle much? |
Xx_Sorin_xX
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Originally Posted by Iuris
Sigh. The speculation that the Wind of change would start with the dragon festival was not accurate. Sigh. Seems I'll have my new computer before WoC starts...
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Iuris
I know, but I did the guessing 
shinta_himura
"gosh that was bitter. what do you want, spoilers?"
No, I want something that will make this feel like a real effort to make something interesting and fun rather than blatant advertising. It's a known fact that they will be releasing costumes at every opportunity, especially at every new Beyond release, there's no reason why they need to keep bragging to us about their uppity fashion designers and their stupid costumes.
Anet, show us why we should be excited about Winds of Change, or is it that you're only working on WoC to peddle more cash shop goods?
No, I want something that will make this feel like a real effort to make something interesting and fun rather than blatant advertising. It's a known fact that they will be releasing costumes at every opportunity, especially at every new Beyond release, there's no reason why they need to keep bragging to us about their uppity fashion designers and their stupid costumes.
Anet, show us why we should be excited about Winds of Change, or is it that you're only working on WoC to peddle more cash shop goods?
-Makai-
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Originally Posted by shinta_himura
Anet, show us why we should be excited about Winds of Change, or is it that you're only working on WoC to peddle more cash shop goods?
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Skyy High
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Originally Posted by shinta_himura
"gosh that was bitter. what do you want, spoilers?"
No, I want something that will make this feel like a real effort to make something interesting and fun rather than blatant advertising. It's a known fact that they will be releasing costumes at every opportunity, especially at every new Beyond release, there's no reason why they need to keep bragging to us about their uppity fashion designers and their stupid costumes. |
As for why we should be excited: between 21 and 42 quests in this piece of it, which is only the first piece; new spawns (which, judging by the Peacekeeper mobs, will be fun to play against); quests that tell a story by fundamentally changing the explorable zone. WiK didn't disappoint me, and the only thing about HotN that I didn't like was the solo-only nature of it, so I'm pretty justified in being excited about WoC, I think.
thedarkmarine
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Originally Posted by shinta_himura
"gosh that was bitter. what do you want, spoilers?"
No, I want something that will make this feel like a real effort to make something interesting and fun rather than blatant advertising. It's a known fact that they will be releasing costumes at every opportunity, especially at every new Beyond release, there's no reason why they need to keep bragging to us about their uppity fashion designers and their stupid costumes. Anet, show us why we should be excited about Winds of Change, or is it that you're only working on WoC to peddle more cash shop goods? |
EPO Bot
If they ever added a maid outfit for my monk, i would buy it. All other costumes are of no interest to me.
Iuris
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Originally Posted by EPO Bot
If they ever added a maid outfit for my monk, i would buy it. All other costumes are of no interest to me.
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That would make me buy a new character slot and fill out my Mercenary heroes' slots
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Apok
Can someone just make a Costume Rage thread somewhere so that every event doesn't get bombarded by this "blatant advertising" crap?
Del
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Originally Posted by Apok
Can someone just make a Costume Rage thread somewhere so that every event doesn't get bombarded by this "blatant advertising" crap?
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Mireles
Not seeing a new costume in 6 months i hope they taken the hint that we take offense to premium ascetic content with anti-lacing and other errors... I'm hoping for something a little more creative in content and micro-transaction.... anyway they seemed to have planed this chapter of beyond a little more than WiK... hope we get to see it this week
jason.ralston1
Winds Of Change, Winds Of Change, wherefore art thou Winds Of Change
Lordkrall
I would guess for a release of part 1 tomorrow^^
Skyy High
I was disappointed that it didn't come last week. I'll be annoyed if it doesn't come this week.
Polgara Val
From all the latest comments coming from the developers themselves it looks like the Winds Of Change update will happen before July 9th.
My feeling is that it will either happen on Thursday, which is fairly consistent in the regular monthly updates no matter how small the update is or Friday.
Pol
My feeling is that it will either happen on Thursday, which is fairly consistent in the regular monthly updates no matter how small the update is or Friday.
Pol
BenjZee
Im thinking it will be tomorrow as they usually update on thursdays. Its funny how theres a network maintenance on the same day.
Mireles
Should know better by now that any due date relating to GW is wishful thinking on their account... They have a hard time meeting deadlines even when there lead dev isn't getting married.... but hopefully we will be pleasantly surprised
Curo
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Originally Posted by jason.ralston1
Winds Of Change, Winds Of Change, wherefore art thou Winds Of Change
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I'm guessing this maintenance has something to do with WoC.
Aba
You know what they say about assuming right?...
Patience, good things come to those who wait.
Patience, good things come to those who wait.
Ximvotn
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Originally Posted by Curo
Wherefore = why (not where).
I'm guessing this maintenance has something to do with WoC. |
BrettM
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Originally Posted by Mireles
Should know better by now that any due date relating to GW is wishful thinking on their account... They have a hard time meeting deadlines
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Iuris
Well, of course Anet has stated no dates, but A) it's done, as people have played it over on fan visit day, B) Stumme is getting married on the 9th and will be gone for 2 weeks after. So, we kinda expected it like today or tomorrow
hattara
John Stumme has stated, I believe here on Guru, that Winds of Change should hit before he goes on vacation. I'm assuming he meant unless something unexpected happens that prevents its timely release.
tummlykins
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What deadline? What due date? Where has ANet ever published any specific date relating to WoC? You accuse ANet of wishful thinking, but it looks like all the wishful thinking is taking place among the community because that's where these "due dates" have been coming from. Some people keep putting promises in the mouths of ANet and then complaining when ANet breaks the promises they never made. And you think this is a sign that ANet has a problem with reality?
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Stumme said that June would be a big month and thus raised expectations that something big was coming that month. All we got was the relatively minor strongbox update, people were expecting WoC as a result of the precedent set by the last time he said something like that. I believe Stumme may have been hoping WoC would hit some time in June thus making it a big month, but it got pushed back into July. Regardless, while he never set any dates for anything specifically, his comments carry weight and have influence over the expectations of the community following him. It's easy for him to play games with people by saying things like that without saying anything which restricts him to a specific timeline. For that reason it wouldn't be a bad idea to be careful about even the vague hints like that he uses, they can often result in dissapointment when having said nothing would have done nothing at all.
This time I believe Stumme has said WoC part 1 will come out before his wedding, which is on the 9th which only leaves a few days (and Thursday/Friday is the day most updates hit) so that's why people expect it today/tomorrow.
Either way I'm glad they decided to split WoC into three parts. The sporadic nature of WiK drove me crazy, it was annoying waiting weeks for minor advances in the plot (the little plot that did exist in the quests). I think in the survey feedback a lot of people expressed a desire for more content in each build even if it meant waiting longer for each build. I'm curious to find out how long they intend us to wait between each part (especially if there are rewards and "trophies" or content progression like daily quests being available very late into the content, leaving us with no rewards for the early content or useless rewards until the final part is implemented).
aspi
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I think it's all about managing expectations. The last time the Stumme said a month was going to be big it came with the long awaited dervish update which was pretty big and was followed closly by the feature build (although I think that did happen the month afterwards).
Stumme said that June would be a big month and thus raised expectations that something big was coming that month. All we got was the relatively minor strongbox update, people were expecting WoC as a result of the precedent set by the last time he said something like that. |
Lordkrall
Stumme never said WoC part 1 would be out before his wedding.
He said it SHOULD be out before his VACATION
He said it SHOULD be out before his VACATION
vader
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Originally Posted by Lordkrall
Stumme never said WoC part 1 would be out before his wedding.
He said it SHOULD be out before his VACATION |
Lordkrall
No, the main thing in my post was the SHOULD Should =/= Would
Should =/= Would
Del
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Originally Posted by vader
Those (vacation and wedding) are pretty much one and the same. Are you arguing just for the sake of arguing?
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Verene
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Originally Posted by Iuris
Well, of course Anet has stated no dates, but A) it's done, as people have played it over on fan visit day, B) Stumme is getting married on the 9th and will be gone for 2 weeks after. So, we kinda expected it like today or tomorrow
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Swingline
He said it should be out before the 9th. Its not for sure but I can hope that it comes out today and have good reason to think so because of the network maintenance.