New WoC Stuff

chuckles79

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2009

FILA

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Originally Posted by hahahi20 View Post
I found some am fah elementalists in pogmai valley.
am fah didn't have elementalist before right?
they have savannah heath builds
Considering that Savannah Heat was a Nightfall skill, I'd say it's a safe bet that they are new.

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Dagon View Post
now the hard part... getting a good moded paper fan... this challenge seems to be defeating me ._.
As someone that's been trying off and on for about 3 or so years, I'm not surprised. I was SERIOUSLY hoping that in WoC we'd get the ability to craft Paper Fans...and we did. Only they're weapons! WHERE'S MY PAPER FAN FOCI?!

texanmann11

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

Knights Of Tessa [KOT]

W/

I think they made them purple because they cannot be placed in the hall of monuments and so as not to outshine the imperial weapons that are probably coming out at the end of WoC. Plus if you read what the man who sells them has to say, he says that he's just trying to get weapons out to the general public, as per the government's orders. So really, it's kinda like he's trying to sell cheap weapons to the public for an honest day's red dot killing.

Premium Unleaded

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by shadeblade47 View Post
Daggers that deal blunt damage? :O Watch out PvP monks, choose your shield carefully.
Until you realise that daggers only do 7-17.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by texanmann11 View Post
I think they made them purple because they cannot be placed in the hall of monuments and so as not to outshine the imperial weapons that are probably coming out at the end of WoC. Plus if you read what the man who sells them has to say, he says that he's just trying to get weapons out to the general public, as per the government's orders. So really, it's kinda like he's trying to sell cheap weapons to the public for an honest day's red dot killing.
QFT.

If anything the Imperial weapons will be gold and be able to be added to the HoM. It's pretty safe to assume that purple weapons aren't going to be able to be added to the HoM.

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

I for one am glad that I don't think less of a weapon if its font is a different color. Unless you can prove that my blue q7 AL 15 shields are any less effective in RA than my purple or gold ones, I actually prefer the blue ones because they cost less and all because of different font color in a game who's economy has ZERO bearing on my real life.

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

i only like gold weapons unless they are a rare skin cause its easer to resell it when i tired or it. many wont buy blue or purple weapons xD

farmerfez

farmerfez

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

You should know

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Premium Unleaded View Post
Until you realise that daggers only do 7-17.
not sure if srs......

I don't think you 100% understood what he was talking about lol

shadeblade47

shadeblade47

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2009

NH, USA

Eternally Hollow [EmpT]

W/P

im not sure if i even understand what HE was talking about O.o how does that have anything to do with shield sets?

Arato

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by nologic View Post
God I hope it isn't designed for HoM enough is enough..
I hope they are dedicatable in HoM, you should be able to fill your monument with skins you LIKE rather than just "well, I need so many points, so I'll just stuff in skins I'm not fond of and never use just to get the required number" The more variety of skins we can put in there, the more likely to get things we like out of it. They won't raise the number of points you can get out of the monument.. they might just change the oppressor weapon one to "1 Oppressor/Imperial/Whispers (you know it'll come someday) Weapon"

DeBron

DeBron

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

MD

Quote:
Originally Posted by shadeblade47 View Post
im not sure if i even understand what HE was talking about O.o how does that have anything to do with shield sets?
scenario where a monk would swap to +10 vs slash/pierce instead of +10 vs blunt.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Can anyone screenshot a Scavenger?

Lithril Ashwalker

Lithril Ashwalker

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2008

Alabama

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Dagon View Post
now the hard part... getting a good moded paper fan... this challenge seems to be defeating me ._.
hell its hard enough even getting a 10% energy storage paper fan let alone weird modded ones, 10% of the right requirement go for around 350+ ecto its rediculous

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lishy View Post
Can anyone screenshot a Scavenger?
Yes.

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Ximvotn

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by jazilla View Post
I for one am glad that I don't think less of a weapon if its font is a different color. Unless you can prove that my blue q7 AL 15 shields are any less effective in RA than my purple or gold ones, I actually prefer the blue ones because they cost less and all because of different font color in a game who's economy has ZERO bearing on my real life.
I hope no part of the game has a bearing on your life especially the economy. I did the first quest and drifted off, the costumes just make searching for professions more confusion, that's not new though.

tummlykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reformed View Post
Yes.

12 chars

This really bothered me. Why are the scavengers using White Mantle weapons? They are not members of the White Mantle and those weapons are distinctly stylisticly different from something a Canthan would be weilding. It really looks out of place in game, their models are asian influenced and their weapons are these weird kinda westernised models. Why not give them access to the Canthan weapons on the loot tables instead?

Aycee

Aycee

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2010

The other side

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Originally Posted by tummlykins View Post
This really bothered me. Why are the scavengers using White Mantle weapons? They are not members of the White Mantle and those weapons are distinctly stylisticly different from something a Canthan would be weilding. It really looks out of place in game, their models are asian influenced and their weapons are these weird kinda westernised models. Why not give them access to the Canthan weapons on the loot tables instead?
Maybe they scavenged the weapons off mantle bodies....

shinta_himura

shinta_himura

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

D/

Anet was lazy and copy pasted the White Mantle mobs into Shing Jea, changed their models but completely F'd up and forgot to change builds/weapon sets...

Why am I not surprised?

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

You know what they say about the given horse...

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

Actually, those weapons on the scavengers could explain some things... White mantle arming the scavengers? Just to stir up trouble? And maybe someone close to Miku gets hurt by it, and Miku seeks revenge on the arms dealer?

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Or the Scavengers scavenged Imperial weapons, but because those are not implemented yet, Anet opted to give them WM weapon temporarily.

^0^

tummlykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aycee View Post
Maybe they scavenged the weapons off mantle bodies....
They are scavengers... do you really think they went all the way to Kryta somehow to steal some weapons only to return to Shing Jea Island and become scavengers again?

Unless there is some link between the White Mantle and WoC (in the form of the mysterious man that Danthor was working for) and the scavengers are a part of the plot, I'm guessing they used similair coding to the WiK mobs and it was an oversite. I don't see any other reason for them to be wielding those specific weapons in Cantha.

Aycee

Aycee

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2010

The other side

Quote:
Originally Posted by tummlykins View Post
They are scavengers... do you really think they went all the way to Kryta somehow to steal some weapons only to return to Shing Jea Island and become scavengers again?

Unless there is some link between the White Mantle and WoC (in the form of the mysterious man that Danthor was working for) and the scavengers are a part of the plot, I'm guessing they used similair coding to the WiK mobs and it was an oversite. I don't see any other reason for them to be wielding those specific weapons in Cantha.
It could the new fashion craze in their social group so they could have possibly traveled to Kryta to get some fresh gear.

You and I may never know.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

I may be making stuff up here but wern't the oprressor weapons added to the mantle sometime into it being being made available for us later on? Though it would seem pretty lazy

Bright Star Shine

Bright Star Shine

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2009

Belgium

Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tummlykins View Post
SNIP
My point was that you were QQing about Factions and Proph items being "left in the stoneage" whilst Anet took a lot of the skins and gave them inscribable versions, thus completely destroying the value of the weapons except for the q8 versions. Also, I'm not gonna have this discussion again. If you really want my opinion on your silly rant, I'll redirect you to the following threads instead of highjacking this one.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/w...t10485012.html

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/w...tml?t=10483344

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

I would have really liked some new weapons to put in HoM as I am still on 11 / 15, and am fed up of grinding the current content over and over again.

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iuris View Post
Actually, those weapons on the scavengers could explain some things... White mantle arming the scavengers? Just to stir up trouble? And maybe someone close to Miku gets hurt by it, and Miku seeks revenge on the arms dealer?
I wish this was true but I seriously doubt it. It's more likely they pulled a copypasta and changed the models similar to what happened when Slavers Exile used to work with Lightbringer. There also wasn't much in the way of an explanation on why they showed up...they replaced Crimson Skull -not- Afflicted.

On an unrelated note...if you go back to that long rambling thread that just got locked we were apparently supposed to get 42 quests. By my count there are 40, and not that I'm ungrateful, but is something missing?

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

What's the lore behind the Scavengers' existence? I seem to have skipped by it and wiki doesn't have much info on them.

Cheers.

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by tummlykins View Post
They are scavengers... do you really think they went all the way to Kryta somehow to steal some weapons only to return to Shing Jea Island and become scavengers again?
Obviously, they scavenged them from dead players who weren't good enough for WoC's challenges because they got their oppressor gear doing BLA in NM post-nerf. Duh!

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

well, i tried it to see if its any fun, but after 2nd quest, i got bored again, and returned to perfect world again, lol

i was hoping for something nice, but i think all we get from now on, is the old stuff and these quests, which actually look like what PW has alot: quests that say "kill this kill that" (and thats something which can be boring in PW )

as for the fans (wands), they arent that bad, and new daggers with blunt dmg are kinda fun to see, but i guess this 1st part isnt enough for me to return, sry

i also dont really like the costumes, just saying

so now i'm hoping for better stuff to show up with the next WoC update

ps. may look like i complain alot, but i just like to see new stuff which is kinda new in general, sry i sound so negative....

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

yep, like the fan--will probably get one. Will finish the arc with at least one character to see what the 'imperial' weapons are....then decide if any other characters want to vanquish the afflicted of cantha.

Mineria

Mineria

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Denmark

Dragonslayers Of The [Mist]

W/Mo

I was hoping to find some screenshots of these new weapons and stuff posted here, instead I just see a lot of bullshit and qq.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta_himura View Post
Anet was lazy and copy pasted the White Mantle mobs into Shing Jea, changed their models but completely F'd up and forgot to change builds/weapon sets...

Why am I not surprised?
Yeah, nice theory, except none of the scavengers have the same builds as the WM. So, it's just the weapons.

Better theory: Imperial weapons are going to be put into the HoM in the same slot as oppressor weapons (so, no additional point for putting both an oppressor and an imperial weapon in there). They don't want to spoil the imperial weapons, so they just put the oppressor weapons in for the time being since they're probably labeled similarly.

Aba

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

Quote:
I was hoping to find some screenshots of these new weapons and stuff posted here, instead I just see a lot of bullshit and qq.
Its because There is no new weapons unless you count reskins of weapons with different names and making a Old dagger skin a single offhand, or a old offhand into a wand.

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy High View Post
They don't want to spoil the imperial weapons
This would work except you can take a fresh character into Kaineng Center, look at Lei Jeng and see what are almost certainly the new skins. Getting those Scavengers to spawn actually requires a good amount of questing.

BogusDude

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

MARA

R/

I don't really care what colour they are but considering how long it took them to put his out you'd have expected a little more originality rather than recycled skins, perfect weapons are hardly hard to come by, i give better junk away regularly, factions weapons are already worthless. Just disappointing. I haven't finished all the quests yet, no rush, but first impressions so far are same again, "OK is this it, why did it take so long to put out?". I hope the hype we got over this isn't relative to gw2

Polgara Val

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

TSR

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by BogusDude View Post
I don't really care what colour they are but considering how long it took them to put his out you'd have expected a little more originality rather than recycled skins, perfect weapons are hardly hard to come by, i give better junk away regularly, factions weapons are already worthless. Just disappointing. I haven't finished all the quests yet, no rush, but first impressions so far are same again, "OK is this it, why did it take so long to put out?". I hope the hype we got over this isn't relative to gw2
I agree with some of what you say but to say factions weapons are worthless is quite wrong. Many skins like, Bladed Shields, Dragon Staffs etc, with perfect stats of course, still sell for a considerable amount and most players find them quite valuable.

As for the content im enjoying it, yeah it can be repetitive and like you I feel that rehashing old skins (weapons) as rewards doesent ring of orginality but lets wait until we see the big picture before we give a final verdict on winds of change.

Pol

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reformed View Post
This would work except you can take a fresh character into Kaineng Center, look at Lei Jeng and see what are almost certainly the new skins. Getting those Scavengers to spawn actually requires a good amount of questing.
Sword and shield only. The NPC has to stay there and be consistent.

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy High View Post
Sword and shield only. The NPC has to stay there and be consistent.
If they were concerned about spoilers they could have given him generic standard equipment was my point. Weapon consistency isn't really relevant anyways...Oroku, for example, wields dual Shinobi Blades and those certainly aren't part of the current Purity weapon set available through Iza Yoi.

Considering that there doesn't appear to be a backstory on the Scavengers (for now) it doesn't seem unreasonable that something got screwed up.

Arato

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reformed View Post
This would work except you can take a fresh character into Kaineng Center, look at Lei Jeng and see what are almost certainly the new skins. Getting those Scavengers to spawn actually requires a good amount of questing.
Do you honestly think the new weapons are going to be that bland?

Look at the oppressor weapons for a bit, see how ornate they are? with glowing animation?

I really don't think Anet is going to pass off some dull looking stuff like that as the new dedicatable weapon for a GW Beyond pack.