Update - Thursday, February 9, 2012 (Winds of Change Part 3)

SongOf

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Do we get another hero?

Charlie Dayman

Charlie Dayman

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

Trifecta Luminati [TRI]

W/

Finished the third chapter a little while ago. Overall, this chapter was pretty fun to play with some nice and funny dialogue in between. Don't really care for the the look of the Imperial Weapons, but that's just my personal taste. Trying to figure out what the heck I'm gonna' do with all these requisitions.

The only thing I can say I'm disappointed about is that...



Other than that, WoC was fun and I thank John Stumme and the rest of the Anet team for putting it all together for free!

Jugalo Dano

Jugalo Dano

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uetzcayotl View Post
Has anyone confirmed whether the gold Imperial weapons can be added to HoM? I would assume not, but that would be great to know.

^^^ Neat wand.

Just tried it with the Imperial Flatbow, they CANNOT be added.


They can't be dyed either, at least the bow can't.

Da Kenster

Da Kenster

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

A shoebox

The Boat Crew

W/E

New offhand dagger, in the place of a shield, will have to see how it works in combat.

ChrisCo

ChrisCo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

[ToR]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da Kenster View Post
New offhand dagger, in the place of a shield, will have to see how it works in combat.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...reendagger.jpg
That's cool, lots of interesting greens it seems.

Odinius

Odinius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

[OBEY]

N/R

The story was nice and I like the new items, I hear stories of hidden stuff too
HoM compatability for the last 2 new heroes is still needed though and same counts for the new weapons, if they can't go in, I won't get them tbh.
And sadly no tengu were remembered in my hall
But, the update is still fresh I'll just lurk in the fora and wiki to see what it has to offer more than shiny stuff.

small story spoiler below

White_Chaos

White_Chaos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Evrope

Where do you get those greens? from mobs?

That dagger (shield) looks great

EDIT: ty for the answer

Da Kenster

Da Kenster

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

A shoebox

The Boat Crew

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by White_Chaos View Post
Where do you get those greens? from mobs?

That dagger (shield) looks great
The dagger was from one of the boxes you get for 3 requisitions. Its a thing of luck, but I cant resist those.

coil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman View Post
The only thing I can say I'm disappointed about is that...



i was getting excited thinking about a tengu razah-type but now i have lost all motivation to start woc

on a side note, out of curiosity, is this update "larger" than the sorrows furnace update?

John Stumme

John Stumme

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2011

Kirkland, WA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulturion View Post
I got an amusing Plague-Soaked Stave - all caster primary attributes, +5e >50, 10% recharge.
The fun parts are that a] it's literally just a common brown stick and b] it is as long as a stave (pretty much), despite being a wand.
Fun fact: that weapon is the same one that the guard gets stabbed through the chest with. At one point in time, we were considering adding it as a sword (I wanted to call it "Guardsbane") but we ultimately decided that was taking things a little too far. XD

Icy The Mage

Icy The Mage

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

E/

I knew it looked familiar, I can't tell you how many times I've talked to that NPC in Minister Cho's Estate telling him to "replay the cinematic" so I can see him get stabbed in the chest and the branch just wiggle around... lol

DiogoSilva

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2011

Girl

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Stumme View Post
Fun fact: that weapon is the same one that the guard gets stabbed through the chest with. At one point in time, we were considering adding it as a sword (I wanted to call it "Guardsbane") but we ultimately decided that was taking things a little too far. XD
It is madness I tell you, madness.

Bright Star Shine

Bright Star Shine

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2009

Belgium

Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

E/

Spear got nerfed -.- dropped the 30hp....

Okay, all my respect for WoC 3 has been lost. I liked the spear, the quests were decent, but the disappointment outweighs the niceness -.-

DiogoSilva

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2011

Girl

E/

^Was expecting a quick nerf to the spear, or else it would have been broken.

I've been enjoying part 3; the two quests I've done so far are fun and distinct from each other, and I like how there are so many rewards. I'm expecting great fun from this, and it already seems an improvement over part 2, which I liked a lot as well.

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

enjoying it- the only complaint i have is: why can't we get anything woc related with all these imperial commendations? Please let us trade them in for ministerial ones.

Slowpokeking

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2011

1. Help a ranger guardsman to take on MoP waves from 2 sides.

2. Solo quest, hear the plan of Am Fah And Jade Brotherhood then run away.

3. Defend Kaineng Center from the bandits and kill the 2 factions' leaders.

4. Help peasants from the attack of the remaining bandits.

5. Escort people from MoP.

6. Fight the Tengu waves.

7. The Final confrontation.

Did I miss anything?

Porkchop Sandwhiches

Porkchop Sandwhiches

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fishing Village in Wizard's Folly

R/

Gold Imperial Staff... I had a hero who needed something anyway.



If this is already posted somewhere, my apologies.

MasterSaji

MasterSaji

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Virginia, USA

Draconus Reincarnatus [DRGN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine View Post
Spear got nerfed -.- dropped the 30hp....

Okay, all my respect for WoC 3 has been lost. I liked the spear, the quests were decent, but the disappointment outweighs the niceness -.-
Are you really surprised they would fix that? And even still, that little change has ruined all of the third part of WoC for you? Really?


Slowpokeking

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2011

I think the quest is a little bit too rushed, why would Reiko face us alone when she still got so many troops?

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

While I like the little twists like a dagger that works like a shield, it doesn't change the fact there's practically no innovation when it comes to items - it's more of the same, again and again and again.

It's such a great shame that in over 5 years, including a large expansion (EotN) there have been almost no new weapons added that I'd really want to get (only more of the same with different, not really "better" looks) and that the biggest addition to the game item-wise that made me enjoy it for a moment almost like it was 2005 again was something unintended (the Mausoleum 2010 incident). Shame that most of the coolest "virtual treasures" to hunt for are things of the past coming from 2005-2006 content, and many not dropping anymore at all. I don't believe it's impossible to innovate without making things that would be strictly better than what's currently the best.

At least the gameplay of the new quests is pretty enjoyable, but I don't see myself doing it more than once.

simooshy

simooshy

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2010

[AoM]

E/

Two side quests from Lei Jeng

Mesmers Are Bad

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

NJ

RoCk

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post
I think the quest is a little bit too rushed, why would Reiko face us alone when she still got so many troops?
She wanted to test out her Agent Smith powers. Also, can't wait for gw2 so i can get into some of that action.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

So many new bling, so little time!

I hope they eventually add repeatable quests, because I find walking around killing enemies for trophies rather boring when there's no objective in the quest log.

Slowpokeking

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2011

OK, here's how I feel about the quests in NM.

1 not hard, the melt before my DPS and the help of Jinnai

2 I failed quit a few times because not knowing the distance you should stay in during the dialog and the route to run out.

3 Just be aware of the bosses' AOE, especially Reisen the Phoenix wiped my party once, gladly we were able to rez up and finish him.

4 Easy

5 Easy

6 The most difficult one in part 3, wiped me twice so I dropped my ST rit and bring another MM and use the bomb a lot then finished it.

7 It's like a joke, Reiko seems unkillable but she not causing much trouble to my team and all the sudden she's dead.

Slowpokeking

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesmers Are Bad View Post
She wanted to test out her Agent Smith powers. Also, can't wait for gw2 so i can get into some of that action.
They should make the previous quest to defend MoP rather than Tengu's attack, that makes more sense.

Bright Star Shine

Bright Star Shine

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2009

Belgium

Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterSaji View Post
Are you really surprised they would fix that? And even still, that little change has ruined all of the third part of WoC for you? Really?


This sums it up pretty well:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
While I like the little twists like a dagger that works like a shield, it doesn't change the fact there's practically no innovation when it comes to items - it's more of the same, again and again and again.

It's such a great shame that in over 5 years, including a large expansion (EotN) there have been almost no new weapons added that I'd really want to get (only more of the same with different, not really "better" looks) and that the biggest addition to the game item-wise that made me enjoy it for a moment almost like it was 2005 again was something unintended (the Mausoleum 2010 incident). Shame that most of the coolest "virtual treasures" to hunt for are things of the past coming from 2005-2006 content, and many not dropping anymore at all. I don't believe it's impossible to innovate without making things that would be strictly better than what's currently the best.

At least the gameplay of the new quests is pretty enjoyable, but I don't see myself doing it more than once.

The quests were fun, the mobs were done well, but it's just not new. The spear brought something cool: the hope that they would introduce new, cool greens with controversial stats or stuff like that. With the fix, all that hope was lost. I thought they'd nerf it, but I could hope... Oh I could hope.. All we got was some very uninteresting greens aside from the dagger/shield and the bo staff/scythe (which should be dealing blunt damage btw, not slashing, try slashing someone with a stick..) and some new mini's. Woop-di-fcking-doo.

I had fun, but it was only for a very short amount of time and the anti-climax made it meh.

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine View Post
The quests were fun, the mobs were done well, but it's just not new. The spear brought something cool: the hope that they would introduce new, cool greens with controversial stats or stuff like that. With the fix, all that hope was lost. I thought they'd nerf it, but I could hope... Oh I could hope.. All we got was some very uninteresting greens aside from the dagger/shield and the bo staff/scythe (which should be dealing blunt damage btw, not slashing, try slashing someone with a stick..) and some new mini's. Woop-di-fcking-doo.
The spear was broken. Introducing triple/quadruple(if you count insc mods) modded weapons intentionally is retarded and I expect better from Anet. We all knew the update was gonna be some new shinny weapons and a mini or two.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

who is giving out the boxes? (I can only find the pamphlet guy, the baker and the 'clothing designer'....)

aefghuys

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Missouri

Obon

D/P

i almost completed part 1, same with part 2...got bored, can i start with part 3 or do i have to go back and finish 1 and 2?

Widowmaker

Widowmaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
who is giving out the boxes? (I can only find the pamphlet guy, the baker and the 'clothing designer'....)
They're stood between Anja and Gorani on the top plaza. You're looking for the Imperial Guard Requisition Officers.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

ah thanks.....finally found them (someone else was asking in Kaineng...)
got 2 party beacons, the plague soaked staff and the death magic focus...no panda

guess some of my characters will have to do these monotonous quests---sigh.

Zenzai

Zenzai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/E

Hey, John. This isn't exactly related, but can you and your team make it so we can go into the Shenzun Tunnels from Tahnnakai Temple, at least for the Remaining WoC? It's annoying to have to go from Xaquang Skyway just to get to Miku. (Don't bother with the Sunjiang District - too much resistance that way.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Stumme View Post
Fun fact: that weapon is the same one that the guard gets stabbed through the chest with. At one point in time, we were considering adding it as a sword (I wanted to call it "Guardsbane") but we ultimately decided that was taking things a little too far. XD

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenzai View Post
Hey, John. This isn't exactly related, but can you and your team make it so we can go into the Shenzun Tunnels from Tahnnakai Temple, at least for the Remaining WoC? It's annoying to have to go from Xaquang Skyway just to get to Miku. (Don't bother with the Sunjiang District - too much resistance that way.)
You already can, through the southern gate in Tahnnakai Temple outpost, it takes you right to where she is.

Slowpokeking

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2011

Anyone can paste up the skin of Imperial weapon?

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine View Post
The quests were fun, the mobs were done well, but it's just not new. The spear brought something cool: the hope that they would introduce new, cool greens with controversial stats or stuff like that. With the fix, all that hope was lost. I thought they'd nerf it, but I could hope... Oh I could hope.. All we got was some very uninteresting greens aside from the dagger/shield and the bo staff/scythe (which should be dealing blunt damage btw, not slashing, try slashing someone with a stick..) and some new mini's. Woop-di-fcking-doo.
Your "controversial" is everyone else's "obviously and unintentionally broken". Get over it. If you're in this for phat lewt based on stats, you're playing the wrong game. They're not running the risk of breaking the game (particularly PvP) at this stage by adding random new mods and combinations of mods. The dagger shield is new and a complete surprise. A bo staff scythe, a staff wand, another pair of sword daggers, daggers as foci, dual wielding fans...they've introduced a lot of neat and unique weapons (not just skins!) in WoC. They're just not statistically better than anything else. This surprises no one except you, and Yawgmoth.

You may as well complain that the Imperial sword has the same max damage as your old sword, Waaaaaaaaaa! That's how ridiculous your complaint is.

HigherMinion

HigherMinion

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

East Anglia, UK

Order of [Thay]

N/

Does the off-hand dagger do any damage? What does it do to your attacks? Make every attack a double-strike or what?

Zenzai

Zenzai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/E

So you can... Sorry, blonde moment.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
You already can, through the southern gate in Tahnnakai Temple outpost, it takes you right to where she is.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Opened 5 lockboxes, got the plague-soaked stave, Xun Rao's Justice (wand with katana skin (yes, that's right, a REAL caster sword!), all primary reqs, +5en > 50% hp, 10% hsr all) and Xun Rao's Absolution:

Sick hammer skin. Mods aren't ideal but good enough for PvE.

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy High View Post
Opened 5 lockboxes, got the plague-soaked stave, Xun Rao's Justice (wand with katana skin (yes, that's right, a REAL caster sword!), all primary reqs, +5en > 50% hp, 10% hsr all) and Xun Rao's Absolution:

Sick hammer skin. Mods aren't ideal but good enough for PvE.
Aaaaaargggh

I have wanted that skin ever since I saw the stone whatevers carrying it. Dang, now I will have to open a bunch of boxes and get a bunch of greens I don't want.

alextheprecise

alextheprecise

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2011

R/A

When you complete the Final Encounter in HM Zei Ri becomes you're third ritualist hero.