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tummlykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

26 Apr 2012 at 01:06 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Swift

And if those rare minis are the super rare ones already in the game - well, OK, I still think its stupid to dump on so many to give massive rewards to a tiny few.

You described the entire loot system of GW. Run UW hoping for a rare drop, most get garbage, a tiny few get something valuable.

You also described the birthday presents from every year. Instead of giving everyone a seventh year birthday present today, only characters (note it's not accounts, so even people who have been around a long time won't get them if they remade their characters) that are seven years old will get them. Before you even take into account the random chance from the presents, the initial concept is elitist and exclusive to the smallest number of people in the game (those that have had characters for seven years) compared with people who have created characters after that time.

Oni-Claire

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26 Apr 2012 at 01:17 - 82

will wait 1 month to get mine

this is true?
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Birthday_Present

The Serious Monk

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S E X Y Shinigami [ちモメソ]

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26 Apr 2012 at 02:00 - 83

Gw wiki says that there is a chance on getting a Unique Mini Kanaxai from the 7th year bday presents.

so not sure if this may be true or not

tonini

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Retired from guildwars for good:D

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26 Apr 2012 at 02:05 - 84

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Serious Monk

Gw wiki says that there is a chance on getting a Unique Mini Kanaxai from the 7th year bday presents.

so not sure if this may be true or not

it said earlier we could get a frog too

its been changing alot since the 7th bday prez

The Serious Monk

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S E X Y Shinigami [ちモメソ]

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26 Apr 2012 at 02:10 - 85

Alright i guess they are just playing with us. Well im disappointed.

theweeknd

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26 Apr 2012 at 02:40 - 86

what if you could get el kanaxai/panda/etc

Swingline

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26 Apr 2012 at 02:59 - 87

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ewon

Some people worked hard for their wealth and having all that work slip away would not be cool.

Yea, it sure is hard work sitting in Kamadan for hours power trading, buying gold and duping items.

Voodoo Rage

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26 Apr 2012 at 03:42 - 88

"Seventh year presents now stack"

That tells me more presents are on the way.

choppergrumbles

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26 Apr 2012 at 04:28 - 89

So any word on the new mini(s) yet?

spun ducky

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26 Apr 2012 at 05:22 - 90

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swingline

Yea, it sure is hard work sitting in Kamadan for hours power trading, buying gold and duping items.

Power trading is actually decently hard to be good at it rather than sell 1-2 drops in the sense of an in game activity being hard.

Buying gold fully agree skilless and you see plenty of that going around even now a days.

Duping items while the actual result when it gets out is of usually very low skill the coder/exploiter that finds it takes a lot of skill. It isn't everyday you can find a bug that huge that in the rest of the computer world would be a high risk 0 day exploit.

I know your point is about the majority of people with these pets, however some were earned in legit manners. I also know a large amount did use shady methods whether it was ripping off someone, account hijacks, duping, botting, and all that kind of malarkey.

Lordkrall

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26 Apr 2012 at 06:17 - 91

Indeed, the information about presents stacking might actually mean we will have more than one present.

drkn

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26 Apr 2012 at 07:08 - 92

Quote:

Power trading is actually decently hard to be good at it rather than sell 1-2 drops in the sense of an in game activity being hard.

Sorry, but as a person who got three accounts to GWAMM and 50/50 nearly solely by farming Kamadan, i have to disagree. It takes some basic wits, it requires some input first to know the price ranges, but then it's not only easy, it's also great fun, as opposed to tiresome mindless farming something else, or exploiting the deserted PvP scene.

So, given what the 7th year presents yield, how much would you sell yours for?

TheGizzy

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26 Apr 2012 at 07:10 - 93

I am still 5 1/2 years away from the time in which I would be receiving a 7th year birthday gift for playing GW, but seeing what they've offered so far - I really am hoping there is more to it than just randomly handing out minis from years 1-5. I really expected there to be something huge for the players that have stuck with the game for seven years... I am disappointed on your behalf.

The thing is - if all you're going to get are recycled minis, that seems like a really big slap in the face for seven years of loyalty... and from what I've seen in the year and a half I've been playing GW, that doesn't seem "in character" for ANet. Certainly they've made mistakes over the years... there's no such thing as a gaming company that doesn't. I've worked for gaming companies with top-notch intentions that end in epic failures in execution - it happens. And it's certainly possible ANet has fallen victim to such an event... but I find it unlikely.

I think there's more to come... that WOULD be in keeping with their character as a company. I think it's going to be interesting to see how this all plays out in the upcoming days.

Lordkrall

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26 Apr 2012 at 07:14 - 94

I love how people talk about "seven years of loyalty".

You could have created a character in beta. Left the game, and come back yesterday and still get the present. How is that loyalty? Age of a character != loyalty.

TheGizzy

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26 Apr 2012 at 07:41 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordkrall

I love how people talk about "seven years of loyalty".

You could have created a character in beta. Left the game, and come back yesterday and still get the present. How is that loyalty? Age of a character != loyalty.

Yes, there are those about whom that is true... but then there are people like those in my alliance who started in beta and are still playing today. Playing, not just farming events and showing up to pick up their presents.

They love the game, they help newbies (which is how we met), they roll multiple toons to play through the storyline again and again... they contribute to the community here... they support the developer with purchases from the store... and they are not unique. There are many like that.

Is their loyalty negated because loyalty isn't part of it for some of those receiving 7th birthday gifts?

Lordkrall

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26 Apr 2012 at 07:44 - 96

Loyalty is already rewarded. GWAMM is the most prominent example.

Pyrthas

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26 Apr 2012 at 07:51 - 97

I don't understand why you should get something amazing and incredibly for having a 7-year-old character. I understand why Anet should do something special to celebrate 7 years of Guild Wars, but, and I say this as someone with a 7-year-old character, I just don't feel like I should be getting something super special that somebody just starting out has to wait seven years for.

I like what they chose to do this time. I would have preferred an entirely new set of minis (maybe still sticking to purple, gold, and green minis), but I don't feel the offense that some people seem to feel about this. Birthday presents have never been giant, game-changing things, literally or figuratively, and I think that's for the best.

Showtime

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26 Apr 2012 at 07:52 - 98

Lazy and gutless.

TheGizzy

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26 Apr 2012 at 08:26 - 99

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordkrall

Loyalty is already rewarded. GWAMM is the most prominent example.

GWAMM is a prominent example? I've been playing since October 2010 - and up until this anniversary event came about, the only thing holding me back from my GWAMM was that I was a) waiting for the next EotN rep weekend to finish two EotN VQs so I could max my Asuran and b) still working to acquire the other 5,000 points I need for sweet & drunk. Well that and I was waiting to finish a couple of missions/VQs in Tyria to maximize my Z-coin profits so I can sell them and get the rest of my Z-keys for my PvP title.

With this anniversary celebration, I can finish it now -

I have 38 of 50 in my HoM. I still have to get my Obsidian armor and some more of my weapons. I will have 50/50 by the time GW2 launches.

So how exactly is GWAMM a reward for loyalty when I've been playing a little over a year and a half, and they've been playing for seven years? And none of this, incidentally, takes into account how much easier several of my titles were compared to what those players had to do to get theirs.

Three words: Spammable drunk points.

Lordkrall

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26 Apr 2012 at 08:28 - 100

Actually doing something in game is showing WAY more loyalty than simply having an account for a long time. You actually have to WORK for GWAMM while birthdays do just require you to create a character.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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26 Apr 2012 at 08:39 - 101

been around for 6+ years (got my ogden tonic on my rit today

)...still dont have gwamm, have more than 10k hours played --MOST of them NON-afk...have over 30 characters that I play regularly (why I dont have gwamm yet

)....and still dont have 50/50....got my titles the old way (including carto).....

I just hope they continue to do birthday gifts even after their next game comes out--I have no intention of buying it since its the same company that is giving you repeat birthday gifts.

Lordkrall

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26 Apr 2012 at 08:46 - 102

I love how people apparently start hating ArenaNet because we get free gifts.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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26 Apr 2012 at 09:14 - 103

that is just ONE example...I dont hate anet either---just not happy with the way they handle things like customer service (chapter every 6 months, monthly updates, etc)...if you went to a restaurant and ordered a meal and then after you had waited for 30 minutes were told they didnt have the item what would you do? Even if you did come back to that restaurant and it happened again and again--would you still keep eating there? (why would you come back the 2nd or 3rd time?).....just not a good way to deal with your customers.
Free gifts have almost nothing to do with my not buying another anet product--its the (lack of good) customer service (dc'd even now...and the live team is gone).

Lordkrall

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2011

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26 Apr 2012 at 09:43 - 104

Well, for some reason you still feel the need to play the game/stay here on the forums, even though apparently everything ArenaNet is doing is worthless and stupid.

Had I though that I would have left a long time ago.

didis

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Netherlands

Lowland Lions

26 Apr 2012 at 10:05 - 105

Can we keep on topic....moderator in the house!

Kook~NBK~

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Natural Born Killaz

26 Apr 2012 at 11:17 - 106

So, no whites in the 7th year B-day presents? No temple guardians? No whiptail devourerers? Not even a siege turtle? I'll say "YAY" to that! For me, that means there's only one way I'll get a repeat mini. But, with the horrible, horrible luck I've had over the years with b-day prezzies, I'll probably be seeing another Jora soon.

Fire Turok

Frost Gate Guardian

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Thieves of Fire

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26 Apr 2012 at 11:17 - 107

Thank you, didis. this is an interesting thread, especially since we don't know if there is more to come. Keep on topic please, I'd rather not have this closed.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

26 Apr 2012 at 11:26 - 108

I never felt like the birthday presents were a reward for loyalty. I started playing in may 2005, have never stopped playing for more than a few (holiday) weeks at a time, brought 9 people to the game (all RL friends and family) and bought most of what they have on offer in the store, yet every year I need to wait until march to get one of the latest batch of birthday presents.

Just because I cleaned out my account. Having dabbled in all 6 professions at that time, my characters were all over the place with regard to quests and progress and I didn't have a single one that I had a proper 'feeling' for. So I deleted them all in March 2006 and started a fresh one to play as a main.

If loyalty was a ever a factor, they should've gone with account age instead of character age, because loyalty lies with a player, not a character.

thelessa

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Purple Puzycats

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26 Apr 2012 at 11:39 - 109

I don't hate ArenaNet, I am just very disappointed that the 7th year present is a redux. I guess I was expecting more for my 7th b-day.

If only the 7th b-day stack, wow I'm impressed, they won't stack with the ones I already have, which is all but the Eye of Janthir, which I really do not want. This is not anything special, just a redux with a tweek!

I am not going to stop playing because of this, just very disappointed.

Kazsta

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2011

UK

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26 Apr 2012 at 12:26 - 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelessa

.... If only the 7th b-day stack, wow I'm impressed, they won't stack with the ones I already have, which is all but the Eye of Janthir, which I really do not want .....

I dont think they mean the miniatures from inside the presents stack, I think they mean the present itself stacks, before you've opened it. 'Suggesting' that if the present stacks, you 'might' get more than one of them.

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

26 Apr 2012 at 12:51 - 111

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosyfiep

that is just ONE example...I dont hate anet either---just not happy with the way they handle things like customer service (chapter every 6 months, monthly updates, etc)...if you went to a restaurant and ordered a meal and then after you had waited for 30 minutes were told they didnt have the item what would you do? Even if you did come back to that restaurant and it happened again and again--would you still keep eating there? (why would you come back the 2nd or 3rd time?).....just not a good way to deal with your customers.
Free gifts have almost nothing to do with my not buying another anet product--its the (lack of good) customer service (dc'd even now...and the live team is gone).

Actually going by your example its more like you paid for one really good meal 7 years ago and the Restaurant is letting you take what you want from the all you can eat buffet. The downside is that the meals take a long time to make adn are not always available. The up side however is that once you receive the meals they are still very good (lets face it, GW still has a great storyline and the overall graphics are amazing if you take the time to actually look at the detail). Now people are comming in and complaining about how the yearly complimentary toys in the Happy meals are not up to the standards they paid for with that one meal 7 years ago.

OK, the support is not up to scratch compared to some companies (however I can not name many companies which have flawless suport), but a whole damn shade better than most companies (Ever tried the Steam support for example). The 3 times which I needed support from Anet or NCsoft, I received a human answer within 3 days which actually solved my problems.

On top of that players of GW receive many voluntary thank you gifts from Anet even though they do not necessarily bring in more funds through purchases (Randomly sent Christmas greeting cards or multiple free to enter contests each year which sometimes even have real life and usefull gifts from external sponsors).

EDIT: To get this post back on topic

Id just like to add. Ive heard the rumor that the 7th year gifts are minipets which have not previously been placed in the HoM on the accounts where they are opened. It would be interresting to hear if this is true (easy to check).

Please write if you receive a duplicate minipet from the 7th year presents, or if you receive a minipet from past series which you have already dedicated in your HoM at the time of receiving or opening the 7th year present.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

26 Apr 2012 at 13:21 - 112

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette

Ive heard the rumor that the 7th year gifts are minipets which have not previously been placed in the HoM on the accounts where they are opened. It would be interresting to hear if this is true (easy to check).

Seems like wishful thinking. If that's true, some people will get insanely rare pets with every gift. Speaking for myself, I would never draw a pet that's currently worth less than around 1000 ecto.

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

26 Apr 2012 at 13:32 - 113

Im not talking about the ultra rare minipets. What I meant was a purple, gold or green minipet from the previous birthdays, but one which was also not displayed on the account HoM.

For example, if you have all coloured Birthday minipets, except for the elf, Eye of Janthir and Lich... then you would only receive one of these 3 minpets or one of the new minipets which John Stumme mentioned earlier in this thread.

To refute this theory, someone needs to receive a minipet which they already have displayed in their HoM.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

26 Apr 2012 at 13:47 - 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette

For example, if you have all coloured Birthday minipets, except for the elf, Eye of Janthir and Lich... then you would only receive one of these 3 minpets or one of the new minipets which John Stumme mentioned earlier in this thread.

To refute this theory, someone needs to receive a minipet which they already have displayed in their HoM.

And what if you already have ALL coloured birthday minipets in your HoM?

Nice theory, but seems unlikely. We'll see soon enough...

thelessa

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26 Apr 2012 at 13:58 - 115

My Hall if full of mini pets, so even if I get one that I don't have dedicated there, I don't need to add it to my Hall.

The ones that I wanted to get, I bought them dedicated, just because I wanted them.

Yawgmoth

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Join Date: Apr 2005

26 Apr 2012 at 14:11 - 116

I've checked that old 5th and 6th year presents don't stack. Might be hard to get 2x 7th to confirm they're different.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette

Ive heard the rumor that the 7th year gifts are minipets which have not previously been placed in the HoM on the accounts where they are opened. It would be interresting to hear if this is true (easy to check).

Please write if you receive a duplicate minipet from the 7th year presents, or if you receive a minipet from past series which you have already dedicated in your HoM at the time of receiving or opening the 7th year present.

Interesting theory there and it shouldn't be hard to disprove - everyone who opened a 7th gift should post if they already had that mini dedicated in their HoM.

In my case it's correct - Opened that Flowstone Elemental which I don't have yet in my HoM.

DreamRunner

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26 Apr 2012 at 14:14 - 117

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordkrall

Actually doing something in game is showing WAY more loyalty than simply having an account for a long time. You actually have to WORK for GWAMM while birthdays do just require you to create a character.

No you don't. All it requires is a person to have lots of time and money. Its the same with 50/50 HoM.

The Mountain

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26 Apr 2012 at 14:18 - 118

As to getting a mini not already in the HoM...it might even be that you'd get a mini not dedicated in the b-day CHARACTER's HoM. That is, your birthday character would need to have all minis dedicated in the hall in order to see a new pet.

zwei2stein

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26 Apr 2012 at 14:18 - 119

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gli

Seems like wishful thinking. If that's true, some people will get insanely rare pets with every gift. Speaking for myself, I would never draw a pet that's currently worth less than around 1000 ecto.

Ineed. It would also be easily abused (right HoM composition, dedicated all minis except those which you want, profit from each gift) and thus very stupid idea to implement.

Hakito

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2010

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26 Apr 2012 at 14:33 - 120

But seriously, stop you imagine things, nobody knows what is going to be in our 7th anniversary gifts... We must wait!

Just wait and then it should not be abused, it's not because you have 7 years of playing GW that you should have more privileges.

They looked like kids who have not had their happy meal ...

I find it very respectable that Arenanet decides to help players who need to finish their pantheon as to help the rich get rich even more (the more you are old in the game, you have more chance of be rich ...).

Just think of others instead of thinking only of yourself.

Thx.