Duping its back...

spun ducky

spun ducky

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

WTB: q8 bows

R/N

The items are left customized and I am sure some people have seen a few odd trades lately like 37 sapphires for 1 armbraces... So buyer beware and I mean all items get customized weird stuff like materials.

Gabs88

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2011

Customized? What do you mean? Customized Sapphires?

superraptors

superraptors

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2008

W/

well something is fishy definitely saph and rubies dropped by 4k-5k in the past day.

Example

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2012

its pretty obvious then isnt it ?

Gabs88

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2011

Glad I converted the majority of my fortune to "real" items and hard cash. xD May end up having to log in and buy a few hundred sapphires and rubies though.

But are the sapphires / rubies really customized?

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

R/

Here we go again.

How did you find out, Ducky? Don't post the actual method, of course.

PowerRAV

PowerRAV

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Missouri (Central Time Zone)

N/

Screenshot or it didn't happen I'm still skeptical...

Kiki Go Boom

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2009

Mr Sunqua Blade

Rt/

I too noticed the sudden drop in ruby/sapphire prices. Glad I sold all of mine weeks ago
I was still a noob during the duping exploit in 2007, can anyone tell me how that incident affected the market? Will it happen again if anet doesn't act quickly?

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Originally Posted by spun ducky View Post
The items are left customized and I am sure some people have seen a few odd trades lately like 37 sapphires for 1 armbraces... So buyer beware and I mean all items get customized weird stuff like materials.
Have you reported this to anet?

angela faye

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

R/

Yea, I found several weird things too recently. Last week a guy in kamadan was selling 4th and 5th year BD presents at really cheap price, when I asked him how many he has, he told me he has over 200.

2 days ago another one was selling 18 celestial rabbits for 30k/ea(usually 50~60k, so apparently he's not a power trader and these can't be bought from other players). Not sure about this one maybe he's just super lucky with the lunar fortunes.

Kula

Kula

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

West Coast, USA

Mo/E

So... should we avoid trading when the deal seems too good to be true, or what?

jcegt87

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2008

P/E

does this really suprise people, i mean GW1 is basically left alone like an unruly child , every once in a while an admin will pop in and set things straight before they go to work (GW2)

ACWhammy

ACWhammy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2009

Texas

Gold Trim Guild [gtg]

R/

You would think Anet would have it's bases covered as far as duping goes.

Good thing it only appears to be materials, although I haven't seen any customized myself. Hopefully they can nip it in the butt before it gets out of hand.

Theumiz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

Belgium

[dP]

W/

What's the point of duping in a dead game.....

jcegt87

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2008

P/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by theumiz View Post
what's the point of duping in a dead game.....
>>>>>rmt<<<<<

Showtime

Showtime

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons

R/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Theumiz View Post
What's the point of duping in a dead game.....
There's still many items that legit players want, but anyone could benefit from essentially free items. Especially the gold sellers.

NCsoft/arenanet can benefit also. If many plan to only play gw1 for their collections and then everything get devalued bigtime, they might not care about hanging out in gw1 as much. They may have to move to gw2/Diablo 3 and start collections there.

I mention this because they have already began devaluing rare mini's by hinting that people can get them out of gifts. If people are duping 7th year gifts too, then it's just a matter of time til the market is completely flooded. Which will also help the company who is supposed to put a stop to this.

Then the only things safe are things like OS weapons that are in collections of people who don't dupe.

Whatway

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2011

WTB Q11-13 Str -2e/-2s Eternal Shields

A/Me

At this stage of the game, it's hard for me to get mad at duping. I'm a collector but I don't mind sharing. I'd share a Q8 +5e shadow blade with Kiki and Purely if I had one.

Atanna Charta

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2012

N/

I find this a little hard to believe. Call me skeptical. Anyone actually have a screenshot?

And prices drops are normal during birthday celebrations, guys. Everyones trying to buy consumables and minis (and for that matter, everyone's trying to sell minis), so the market's being flooded with all the ecto that normally gets saved and stashed away.

Not saying that it's impossible dupes are happening and that's the cause, just that I find it HIGHLY... EXTREMELY unlikely.

Until we actually have some proof, I'm unconvinced.

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

Quote:
Originally Posted by Atanna Charta View Post
And prices drops are normal during birthday celebrations, guys. Everyones trying to buy consumables and minis (and for that matter, everyone's trying to sell minis), so the market's being flooded with all the ecto that normally gets saved and stashed away.
This happens all the time when the boardwalk has been going and players are selling assests to raise the cash to afk 9 rings.
I can remember one guildie a few years ago who blew over 500k just on 9 rings and he was selling all his materials etc.
As for minis - i have several accounts and ive probably near 100 pets from that - that doesnt mean im duping.Ecto prices dropped because of same reason - remember there are players with stacks of ectos from power trading etc.
Im sure if ppl were duping then the items they would dupe the easiest thing to sell and it probably wouldnt event ring the anet alarm bells - stacks of the event drops but thats my theory .

Showtime

Showtime

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons

R/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiritz View Post
This happens all the time when the boardwalk has been going and players are selling assests to raise the cash to afk 9 rings.
I can remember one guildie a few years ago who blew over 500k just on 9 rings and he was selling all his materials etc.
As for minis - i have several accounts and ive probably near 100 pets from that - that doesnt mean im duping.Ecto prices dropped because of same reason - remember there are players with stacks of ectos from power trading etc.
Im sure if ppl were duping then the items they would dupe the easiest thing to sell and it probably wouldnt event ring the anet alarm bells - stacks of the event drops but thats my theory .
Events over so that should have happened a week ago. Less farming now means prices should be climbing a bit.

People need to look at the big picture. According to mines and my friends accounts, there is no duping going on. But according to the traders something is happening. I recently grabbed a few hundred saps and rubies to finish up my mats storage. They went up to 12 or 13k during the event and now you can buy at 8k each? For those mats to drop this much a crapload must have been sold the to dealer. They couldn't find a way to convert enough into ectos and arms even with inflated offers.
Too bad they didnt do diamonds too lol. Thats the last mat I need.

Minorin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2010

Compendium Of Resurrection [Void]

Me/N

Duping is a myth/rumor that people are spreading to drop prices on high end items/minis. Ignore it and move on, they've tried it countless times with ectos and other things in the same manner =\.

Bright Star Shine

Bright Star Shine

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2009

Belgium

Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minorin View Post
Duping is a myth/rumor that people are spreading to drop prices on high end items/minis. Ignore it and move on, they've tried it countless times with ectos and other things in the same manner =\.
You sir, are an idiot.

I know how the previous duping exploit worked, but I didn't at the time it was being abused. I used similar methods to abuse the hell out of 20man and 14man parties using heroes last year though. I know that when Anet 'fixed' the 14 hero bug, we were still doing it for a while, just differently, because their fix didn't really work. For some reason it fixed 20 heroes though. But eventually they perma fixed the exploit. So my bet is that they thought they 'fixed' the previous exploit, but people found a way around it, like we did. Only difference is, we weren't generating thousands of sapphires/rubies at a time.

I don't really care anymore though, I barely log on, and I 'lost' all my money already anyway.

Minorin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2010

Compendium Of Resurrection [Void]

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine View Post
You sir, are an idiot.
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I was referring to this duping sham. I know exactly how the last one was done. Note how they mention "customized" materials without any screenshots. It's a ploy to drive prices back down because the event is over.

Showtime

Showtime

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons

R/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minorin View Post
I was referring to this duping sham. I know exactly how the last one was done. Note how they mention "customized" materials without any screenshots. It's a ploy to drive prices back down because the event is over.
I'd like to see these customized mats too.

Prices are already down on saps and rubies though and that is strange timing.

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

Until we see SS proof all we can say is that something very fishy was going on. If it is indeed dupping then it seems to have been fixed because there was a small update and ruby/sapphire prices are going back up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine View Post
You sir, are an idiot.
Don't get yourself trolled bright.

Kiki Go Boom

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2009

Mr Sunqua Blade

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swingline View Post
Until we see SS proof all we can say is that something very fishy was going on. If it is indeed dupping then it seems to have been fixed because there was a small update and ruby/sapphire prices are going back up.
Or the regular players are seeing this as a chance to buy them cheap so that they can get their vabbian armor, reducing the merchant's stock.

We'll never know

Kada

Kada

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2011

Reykjavik, IS

[Hero]

R/Rt

One thing not being taken into consideration too is that I believe the drop rates on rubies and sapphires may have been adjusted recently to try and push things along a little - my guild mates and I are seeing a significant increase in sapphire drops in our MTSC runs over the past month...it's not unusual to see a sapphire drop for someone in every run. Higher drop rates = more drops = lower prices.

eKto

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2010

Inadequately Retired [GoLd]

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/w...t10509362.html

5 duped pandas,here we go.. (not fereos duped but the guy who paid the 5 for his kanaxai)


Good thing it only appears to be materials
not the truth mia minis can be duped too...

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

IF there's any truth to the rumor about a z-key farming exploit, that could account for the sudden liquidation of rubies/sapphires/ectos. It would make alot of sense to be buying up z-keys on the cheap while that's going on and then reselling them at a higher price once A-Net solves that problem.

eKto

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2010

Inadequately Retired [GoLd]



here we go
this guy had 51 stacks

Showtime

Showtime

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons

R/P



Now it gets interesting

How much was his stack btw?

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by eKto View Post
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/w...t10509362.html

5 duped pandas,here we go.. (not fereos duped but the guy who paid the 5 for his kanaxai)


Good thing it only appears to be materials
not the truth mia minis can be duped too...
Well that certainly is not a good sign. We will have to wait and see if there are any more kanaxai's hitting the market.

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Originally Posted by eKto View Post
oh my word...

Kada

Kada

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2011

Reykjavik, IS

[Hero]

R/Rt

If these are customized though, isn't that a limitation unless you're tricking stupid people into taking the customized items? Or are these not behaving like normal customized items and they can actually be sold at traders or used by other players instead of being 0 gold unsellables?

eKto

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2010

Inadequately Retired [GoLd]

Or are these not behaving like normal customized items and they can actually be sold at traders or used by other players instead of being 0 gold unsellables?

this!
you can use them as normal ones,for armours,crafting,sell at merchant etc

and btw the duped pets are not customized

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kada View Post
If these are customized though, isn't that a limitation unless you're tricking stupid people into taking the customized items? Or are these not behaving like normal customized items and they can actually be sold at traders or used by other players instead of being 0 gold unsellables?
Given the circumstances with people having 50+ stacks I assume they do not behave like regular custo'd items. Besides these are not equipable items, customized items can still be traded and sold to merchants.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by eKto View Post
btw the duped pets are not customized
That's not surprising since they removed the ability to customize minipets long ago. The code to customize them probably doesn't even exist anymore or was modified to not allow it.

Anbu Soul Worshiper

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2011

Sweden

Myth And Legends [Myth]

R/A

found this thread, might be interesting, i hate dupers
http://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/gui...e-kanaxai.html

Twister83

Banned

Join Date: May 2012

Hi all ! its me who sold sapphire customized , its not a dupe or other

my account get banned two week , and when i back i saw that ...

so its not a dupe , i'm a noob with a computer
the sapphire can be trade - sell to merchant - and all
just bugged

Lordkrall

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2011

W/

Ah, so how do you explain those extreme masses of sapphires?

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Twister83 View Post
Hi all ! its me who sold sapphire customized , its not a dupe or other

my account get banned two week , and when i back i saw that ...

so its not a dupe , i'm a noob with a computer
the sapphire can be trade - sell to merchant - and all
just bugged
As soon as you walked into this thread it started to reek of horse shit.

Twister83

Banned

Join Date: May 2012

yes , there is some years a sapphire bot was created , and i traded my ectos for his sapphire ( not me used bot )

Lordkrall

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2011

W/

Sounds legit...