And here i was thinking id get my witch hat back.
There is still the question of whether or not you can trade them.
Update - Thursday, June 21, 2012
Swingline
Star_Jewel
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(Kidding, of course.)
I appreciate the follow-up post there explaining the reason for this change. Obviously, with the team mostly moving on to GW2, things can't run the way they used to. I can see them doing their best to keep things going in auto-pilot format so people who still want to keep playing GW1 still have things to do at festival time, rather than the festivals just going dark.
cosyfiep
so basically what I said already: the live team isnt going to be doing anything for gw1 now that gw2 is almost out--so just forget any 'updates' that you have your heart set on...(elvis has left the building, the fat lady is done singing)....
still hope they do the celestials too since the coding is already there and next year is my year
(wonder what they will have for those of us with all the hats......at least its SOMEthing new!)
still hope they do the celestials too since the coding is already there and next year is my year
(wonder what they will have for those of us with all the hats......at least its SOMEthing new!)
HigherMinion
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Nothing does party healing better than AoD, sorry. UA + Divine Healing + Heaven's Delight (I assume that's your UA build?) does 16.5 HP/s. AoD does 40 HP/s.
Rit Lord is prot while AoD is healing, but AoD dervs can sacrifice about half their healing to run SY at the same time, and those two (SY and Shelter) are arguably at about the same place in the hierarchy of insanely powerful protection abilities. |
I meant Rit Lord Party Healer (something like mbas, recup, rejuv, life, rit lord, signet of creation) Which outputs a crazy amount of AoE heals, single-target and a burst of party-wide health when Life is recharged. You can even remove stacks of conditions. What can the derv do? spam +40hp heals consistently and hit with a scythe... Nice, I guess?
Then UA who carries Seed of Life, divine/heaven's, hex removal/maybe cond removal and a spike heal. How can the dervish compete when a whole bar attempts to replicate what Seed of Life can in one cast?
Whatway
Heh. So we can get one older hat. Nice to have the opportunity to get that at least.
Not sure what I think about the AoD change - I've got a team build that's built around that elite and I'll have to see if it functions any differently now than before. I think a couple people on Guru have toyed around with AoD team builds in the past, so we should have a few people who actually use that elite to weigh in on how tangible the changes are (meaning, whether it's a buff or nerf).
Leech change is silly but I don't use it so... oh well?
Not sure what I think about the AoD change - I've got a team build that's built around that elite and I'll have to see if it functions any differently now than before. I think a couple people on Guru have toyed around with AoD team builds in the past, so we should have a few people who actually use that elite to weigh in on how tangible the changes are (meaning, whether it's a buff or nerf).
Leech change is silly but I don't use it so... oh well?
Kunder
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Originally Posted by HigherMinion
Don't be sorry and don't mean it; that's just being smug :P
I meant Rit Lord Party Healer (something like mbas, recup, rejuv, life, rit lord, signet of creation) Which outputs a crazy amount of AoE heals, single-target and a burst of party-wide health when Life is recharged. You can even remove stacks of conditions. What can the derv do? spam +40hp heals consistently and hit with a scythe... Nice, I guess? Then UA who carries Seed of Life, divine/heaven's, hex removal/maybe cond removal and a spike heal. How can the dervish compete when a whole bar attempts to replicate what Seed of Life can in one cast? |
Seed of Life sure is great when its not working for 80% of the time. Now, if you were talking about AP monks you might have a point.
As for the rit lord, Rejuvenation + Recuperation is merely 20 HP/s, and Rejuvenation dies really fast under pressure leaving you with only 8 HP/s. Life is only 7 HP/s and so very cumbersome to use that it almost doesn't count.
4x AoD 1x AoM 3x OoU MM happens to be the most lulzy imba build I've run. And don't diss hitting things with Scythes, all you need to do substantial damage with a physical weapon is AoE hits + buffs.
` Marshmallow
Wait...only one hat!? D:
AmyLynn
OH! I love your Art work! Do you have more? 
Sorry, Marshmallow. I thought the same thing, till I read this quote...
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•Kagno will offer hats from past Dragon Festivals and the Day of the Tengu but not other holidays. |
MithranArkanere
I wonder what will be the other extra item...
Maybe something like a huge stack of festive items? A gift box that might spawn a miniature or other stuff a-la Nochila's gift?
Maybe something like a huge stack of festive items? A gift box that might spawn a miniature or other stuff a-la Nochila's gift?
Tom Swift
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I wonder what will be the other extra item...
Maybe something like a huge stack of festive items? A gift box that might spawn a miniature or other stuff a-la Nochila's gift? |
In the meantime, I'm looking forward to finally getting that tengu hat.
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hmm 1 per account good thing I have 2 accounts to work with.
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At least ANet is smart enough to only allow one hat per account per year.
I wonder if Kagno has the same restriction, of 1 hat/account/year, as Sun Li. Maybe if I can get 500 Victory Tokens I can get 1 past Dragon Festival and a Tengu hat at the same time?
Reformed
So they are putting hats into a maintenance mode and letting us know there won't be any new ones. All in all not a horrible way to leave things off instead of just repeating the same hat over and over forever.
HigherMinion
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Seed of Life sure is great when its not working for 80% of the time. Now, if you were talking about AP monks you might have a point. As for the rit lord, Rejuvenation + Recuperation is merely 20 HP/s, and Rejuvenation dies really fast under pressure leaving you with only 8 HP/s. Life is only 7 HP/s and so very cumbersome to use that it almost doesn't count. |
Rit Lord raises the Spawning and Restoration levels by +4 and over half-recharge on spirits, equalling 19 Restoration. This gives you: 12hps from Rejuvenation, +4hp Regen to ALL_ALLIES and a random 180hp party-wide heal from Life, which can also be terminated early since the recharge is halved, giving a minimum of 90hp party-wide. All this while also providing spot heals and effective bodyblocking spirits which can tank sturdily thanks to 16 Spawning.
You're scrutinising one function of the AoD build and ignoring everything else, or the lack of everything else, then flaming a much better build.
BenjZee
oh lawdy, the dya of the tengu mask will be available, little bit harsh on those special people who got to play
Sinny survivor
My guess at the 'extra' item for those who have all the hats will be a relevant rare mini. E.g. a canthan one for dragon, Polar for wintersday, MKG for halloween. /Dream
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
"whine this whine that" wtf is wrong with people, only complaining about opinions and thoughts, and call it whining
calm down a bit
i think its good enough, 1 hat per year
i hope i can trade these tokens, so my 2nd acc can get me a tengu mask (i was there at the time, but no idea what was going on) but i dont count on it
and we got a response from a dev
glad stephane
as for "they arent working on GW anymore" thats not true, if they werent, GW would have no updates, and we got several for a while now
skill updates and such will stay
well, since i bought factions CE for the wrong account, i can now get that 1st dragon mask on my main, lol
i put factions on wrong account to see how it worked, afraid something bad would happen if i did something wrong to my 1st account.... so no CE on my 1st account either, lol
well, thx anet, you sure are nice to those who werent there (whether their account didnt exist, or they couldnt be there cuz of reallife)
this is a nice move if you ask me
calm down a bit
i think its good enough, 1 hat per year
i hope i can trade these tokens, so my 2nd acc can get me a tengu mask (i was there at the time, but no idea what was going on) but i dont count on it
and we got a response from a dev
as for "they arent working on GW anymore" thats not true, if they werent, GW would have no updates, and we got several for a while now
skill updates and such will stay
well, since i bought factions CE for the wrong account, i can now get that 1st dragon mask on my main, lol
i put factions on wrong account to see how it worked, afraid something bad would happen if i did something wrong to my 1st account.... so no CE on my 1st account either, lol
well, thx anet, you sure are nice to those who werent there (whether their account didnt exist, or they couldnt be there cuz of reallife)
this is a nice move if you ask me
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I'm just wondering about two things:
- Will the tokens be tradeable?
- Will it be a new quest?
yitjuan
https://forum.guildwars.com/forum/fo...ge/1#post11864
All I want is the Demon Mask, Witch Hat and Jester's Cap.
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Firstly, Heals Per Second is stupid, because those heals can be delivered in more effective ways than AoD. I've already explained that comparison to which you did not understand. Seed of Life is the ultimate panic_button in most situations (see: the deep, DoA, general PvE, etc.) The reason monks are the kings of party-wide healing (ER eles still beat everyone for single-target heals and prots).
Rit Lord raises the Spawning and Restoration levels by +4 and over half-recharge on spirits, equalling 19 Restoration. This gives you: 12hps from Rejuvenation, +4hp Regen to ALL_ALLIES and a random 180hp party-wide heal from Life, which can also be terminated early since the recharge is halved, giving a minimum of 90hp party-wide. All this while also providing spot heals and effective bodyblocking spirits which can tank sturdily thanks to 16 Spawning. You're scrutinising one function of the AoD build and ignoring everything else, or the lack of everything else, then flaming a much better build. |
HP/s is by far the best metric of party healing. If you have a better one please state it, don't beat around the bush.
Spirit build optimally adds up to 29 HP/s. Still not even 75% as powerful as AoD in HP/s, and the majority of it doesn't apply to allies. Then Life sucks ass to use, Rejuvenation dies (bodyblock with it and let it die faster? Makes sense), and your healing can end up gimped horribly.
Tom Swift
Hmmmm, rereading......
Kagno will also offer an item for those who already have all the hats he carries.
...could mean that he has an alternate item anyone can choose instead of a hat rather than an item only available to those who have already unlocked all past years' hats.
If so, I take back my hope for something spectacular for long time players and hope it's something mildly interesting instead.
Kagno will also offer an item for those who already have all the hats he carries.
...could mean that he has an alternate item anyone can choose instead of a hat rather than an item only available to those who have already unlocked all past years' hats.
If so, I take back my hope for something spectacular for long time players and hope it's something mildly interesting instead.
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My guess at the 'extra' item for those who have all the hats will be a relevant rare mini. E.g. a canthan one for dragon, Polar for wintersday, MKG for halloween. /Dream
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I didn't say other builds were bad, I said AoD was by far the best ally/party wide healing available. 40 HP/s or 20 HP/s with +100 armor. Other builds can't match that party support. If you are creating a party to abuse insanely high ally-wide healing then AoD is literally your only option.
HP/s is by far the best metric of party healing. If you have a better one please state it, don't beat around the bush. Spirit build optimally adds up to 29 HP/s. Still not even 75% as powerful as AoD in HP/s, and the majority of it doesn't apply to allies. Then Life sucks ass to use, Rejuvenation dies (bodyblock with it and let it die faster? Makes sense), and your healing can end up gimped horribly. |
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Almost all my casters have the witch hat and I even have the first hat (pumpkin crown) ever given out in this game. Also the 2005 yule cap/horns of Grenth which I proudly wear every christmas.
This christmas, I would see lots of people having the same 2005 yule cap as I have been wearing. That special feeling of being an old timer is gone and everybody is the same. I remember that my friend was so proud of his tengu mask because he pre-ordered Factions and I didn't. He was wearing it and showing it off to me. With this update, I would be able to get that mask so it doesn't matter anymore whether I pre-ordered or not. Bah...I am sure glad right now that I didn't intend to buy GW2 until years later because it wouldn't have made any difference in the end. Plus I get all the major bugs worked out and improvements added since release. |
The prestige is long gone.
Markaedw
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Mad of all the trees and natural resources wasted by people leaving their computers on for the events in the past actually.
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MY wife will agree with that. I'm sure she will be glad that I'm going to be able to turn off my computer from now on and not be obsessed with "being there " for the hats anymore.
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A lot of the recent changes (drunkard title change, festival hats change etc) are things which are making the game a lot better for the people who are still around and could have really helped others who missed them enjoy it more. Exclusivity and elitism create a poisonous atmosphere in an MMO when taken too far.
Daesu
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Mad of all the trees and natural resources wasted by people leaving their computers on for the events in the past actually.
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If you want to save natural resources, then dont drive, cycle or walk instead. America is one of the most wasteful countries where it comes to dependence on gas.
Vapor_Fighter
Give all the hats away? Worst update ever.
AngelWJedi
wow this will actually make me leave the other game im play to play gw for awhile until i get that token. xD
Citri
I can't wait to get a hat from the past so I can have finally have in-game prestige
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I can't wait to get a hat from the past so I can have finally have in-game prestige
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BuD
Maybe for Halloween we'll get a chance to get the Divine Aura... [/sarcasm]
MithranArkanere
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Maybe for Halloween we'll get a chance to get the Divine Aura...
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Unlike the CEs, the hats were given for free.
The CEs were paid.
You can charge for something you gave for free as prestige, but you should not give for free something that you charged for as prestige.
Now, CE and pre-order updates in the GW Shop? That would be acceptable. Those who got the actual CEs still have the physical stuff no one else will ever get.
BuD
forgot to add sarcasm brackets
Yol
I'm very happy that finally I'll be able to get the first dragon mask, as I only had time to get 164 jade wind orbs before the masks were handed out. I was there, and I didn't have the mask to show it. I still have the orbs.....
MithranArkanere
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Nekodesu
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OH! I love your Art work! Do you have more?
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Gill Halendt
Wonder if the 1 per year restriction applies to tokens or NPCs.
Will people get another token for Halloween masks and then one for Wintersday masks, or will one token do for this year?
Will people get another token for Halloween masks and then one for Wintersday masks, or will one token do for this year?
HigherMinion
People who care about cosmetics, especially hats, don't play gw. They play TF2.
...and Hatris.
...and Hatris.
My Player Person
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People who care about cosmetics, especially hats, don't play gw. They play TF2.
...and Hatris. |
Lurvvv Monk Fool
Markaedw
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Wonder if the 1 per year restriction applies to tokens or NPCs.
Will people get another token for Halloween masks and then one for Wintersday masks, or will one token do for this year? |
They way I read it, it's one token per account, per event.
Which is why I'm prepping characters on my second account to be able to take part in the events and get a second token. 1 for the hat substitute and 1 for the hat if needed or to sell if not.