Community report july 2014 to Arenanet

Izzy Ownz

Izzy Ownz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2014

Mo/

I have bad news.

After reviewing the interview personally and after with Arenanet i'm afraid i have to decline it politely. I'm not in position to answer to most of the questions because i have no contact with Guild Wars 1 and most of the things you want to know are totally out of my knowledge. [...]

I feel bad for the time invested in it, but there's not much i can do about it. [...]



Anyway, thanks all for the time and the excitement you have put into this.

MaxBorken

MaxBorken

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2009

London UK

Teh Academy [PhD]. Officer. Gentleman

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Anet declined the interview?

Can't say I'm surprised. It felt too good to be true.

I knew they'd find a way out.

Right. Ask me questions about the gravitational pull of mars....
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I don't know enough about the gravitational pull of mars so I have to decline to answer.

Nice work Anet. Smooth.

Thanks for the effort though Izzy. It was encouraging to see that people still care.

Max

Motoko

Motoko

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Dallas, Texas

Zero Quality [zQ] /[LaG]/[USA]/[iQ]

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Izzy Ownz View Post
I have bad news.

After reviewing the interview personally and after with Arenanet i'm afraid i have to decline it politely. I'm not in position to answer to most of the questions because i have no contact with Guild Wars 1 and most of the things you want to know are totally out of my knowledge. [...]

I feel bad for the time invested in it, but there's not much i can do about it. [...]



Anyway, thanks all for the time and the excitement you have put into this.
Summarizes pretty much ArenaNet and GW1 for you.

Too bad most of those questions are out of anyone's knowledge associated with GW1 at ANet these days anyway.

Bristlebane

Bristlebane

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

That's unfortunate and totally unsurprising.
Not the janitor's fault though, he's probably working for free to keep the game running for us. Just not knowledgable in answering those questions. Our hero!

Internetuser

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2010

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oh well. Thanks for trying Izzy

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

gee, cant say as I am surprised either...though we know the answers to most of the questions anyways---their recent actions speaking pretty loudly about their position on this game (and I will remind folks of statements I made back when gw2 was coming on line ...but alas that would be pointless and only get me the satisfaction of saying: I told you so)

and yes, thanks for all the work you put into this, and giving us that small feeling of hope for a few days (no thanks for you anet peoples ).

I ride my Pokemon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

W/A

Not surprising at all.

Anet it's no longer what it's used to be. In fact there is only Mike O'Brian left (from the mastermind's of this game) and his interest in the original guild wars along with it's core fanbase is 0. To be honest and I bet that he see it as a nuisance he just doesn't turn the servers off because of a possible backlash.

Patrick Wyatt and Jeff Strain departed and now founded undead labs leaving Anet with nothing but new fellas who hadn't any commitment with GW. Maybe they would give their two cents about these questions since they no longer have any tie with Anet. But i don't think it would matter now anyway.

fadekill

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2012

So saddening what anet turned into...

Internetuser

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2010

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Quote:
Originally Posted by I ride my Pokemon View Post
To be honest and I bet that he see it as a nuisance he just doesn't turn the servers off because of a possible backlash.

Backlash from who? The remaining player base of a game they don't care about? The same player base who isn't big enough to do anything? Come on now. There'd be a thread on guru filled with angry people and a few links to petitions. That's not backlash. At least, not to ANet.


IMO we got the only answer we need.

Bristlebane

Bristlebane

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

As long as they sell campaigns and expansions in the ingame new store, Guild Wars will stay up. How bad wouldn't it look if they sold a game to new players only to shut it down a week later?
The day they pull campaigns from the store. that's the day when they have decided on a date to pull the plug, maybe a year later.

But then again we can't know for sure with this new Anet on life support, they might as well just pull the plug tomorrow, and issue a refund to anyone who purchased anything within the last X months.

From a marketing point of view, pulling the plug now would just scatter the players, only a fraction would probably continue with GW2. If they're clever they work on a solution to soak up all those players. Perhaps in time for a brand new GW1.5 game with exclusive items for the old GW1 players. Even if it's a brand new staff programming it, perhaps some of the old GW1 players. Out of 6-7 million accounts sold, surely there would be some qualified programmers and graphics designer who would just die to be offered a chance to work on a new GW1.5

I ride my Pokemon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

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Originally Posted by Internetuser View Post
Backlash from who? The remaining player base of a game they don't care about? The same player base who isn't big enough to do anything? Come on now. There'd be a thread on guru filled with angry people and a few links to petitions. That's not backlash. At least, not to ANet.


IMO we got the only answer we need.

And that's why I used "possible". You can't always be a 100% sure about those things. But as you said probably won't happen.

DRM has been going on since 2000 but when Microsoft tried to implement it on Xbox One there was a huge backlash from a audience that represents less that 5% of the market probably less (cause by NeoGAF). The bluster was so loud that not only they have dropped it before the launch but it may have cost the entire generation race for them.

Getting back on topic would be nice to hear something from Jeff Strain and Patrick Wyatt his opinions of what went right and wrong etc. They no longer work there so it won't change anything but it still nice to hear what they think about it (Guild Wars as a whole).

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I dont think Jeff or Patrick would be able to answer or even talk about guildwars, as they probably had to sign something when they left working for anet.

Coast

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

I TOLD U SO Kappa

I ride my Pokemon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
I dont think Jeff or Patrick would be able to answer or even talk about guildwars, as they probably had to sign something when they left working for anet.


Jeff left at 2009 right? It would be a shame if a sign in those terms would last that long.

About Patrick Wyatt it was recent, so you are probably right. Wouldn't hurt to try though. However we have to face that it involves too much work for mere opinion's and speculation about an "old game".

What hurt me the most it's realizing that I will never get the same satisfaction I had playing GvG/HA/TA in the golden era 2005-2008 again. And whenever i felt tired, stretch my back at a decent/full experience non-grindy PvE. Oh boy.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

some of you know me a long time now, and how P-ed off i got to people who ONLY had negative comments, especially with "wont happen" (still the same, as we never know if they ever open their eyes..... cuz GW is good enough to keep updated once in a while)

well, from that person (me), this reply:

why did i think we wouldnt get much at all, before i even posted about my ideas for GW?

yes, thats the new me
the only reason i came up with those (and the question about the facebook suggestion part), is cuz thats the only things which can make me happy in GW, without any other content updates (so those suggestions being made, if they dont do anything else anymore anyways)

thanks for trying, and anet......i dont know what to say anymore, you just let someone ask about GW, but before you give answers, you tell us you wont be able to answer this

unless someone else from anet has the balls to answer them

plz change GW to offline/LAN mode, or sell to perfect world (i dont have any faith in other companies.... and even PW isnt as good as anet once was)
wait, if not PW, sell to aeriagames (i know those 2 also do good stuff)

anyway, i hope for GW to stay online at least, and AT LEAST get some nice changes over time (not skill changes anymore).... even if it takes a year (including the elona content they have on paper)

TheFrogMan

TheFrogMan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2013

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa View Post
anyway, i hope for GW to stay online at least, and AT LEAST get some nice changes over time (not skill changes anymore).... even if it takes a year (including the elona content they have on paper)
In my opinion, I'm confident it will stay online for quite some time. I don't think they would make everything automated just so they could take it offline right away. Most of the reports that I'm aware of point to it being very cheap and easy to maintain at this point from their end.

Here's an article written a year ago where Mike Zadorojny even says it could "last forever", although you may already be aware of it. I just thought I'd mention it because of all the panic and predictions of the server being shut down in the near future.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/07/16/gu...eveloper-says/

As far as new content goes, everything they've said leads to me to believe it won't ever happen. I would love to get new content also but what can we realistically expect? It's not like there's a monthly fee that enables them to pay staff to keep working on it. Bottom line is they are a business and I don't think it would be very profitable or even maintainable to pay a staff to work on content for a 10 year old game. We will be lucky if they can even manage to find the financial resources to ban some of the illegal things that have been going on with HoH and JQ but I'm not counting on it considering the game is fully automated at this point.

Pulsedriver

Pulsedriver

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2013

Italy

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Well, I think not answering is already an answer. They don't have any plans on GW1, they really don't know because their efforts are totally focused on other projects (mainly GW2, i suppose). I believe we'll have to deal with automation and actual problems until the end of GW1, which will probably happen when the game won't be able to maintain economically itself anymore.

Forgot... Thanks Izzy for the time spent on the interview

Oo D A W N

Oo D A W N

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Join Date: Mar 2014

somewhere

me,myselfe and I

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shame on you Anet!!!!!!! ty izzy for try and the much work u put into.

Arkon Necrocannibal

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2011

I am going to forward this interview to Stephan Lo Presti, french community manager that I have met a few time IRL.
Not going to surrender that fast with the work you've all done for this interview.
Keep you in touch.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

ooooh, good luck with that (really). would love to hear what he has to say (or what he doesnt have to say----)

I ride my Pokemon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

W/A

Arkon that's really really really noble of you


Honestly I think this is a message from the higher-ups at Anet showing us that they don't want to have any publicity and ties with Guild Wars anymore. Their long terms goals remain in Guild Wars 2 and we should just deal with it. If they were a little interested about the leftover community they would have tried to explain why they can't apply some measures that was raised at the interview.


But I'm willing to see if you get any results.


EDIT: Just an idea. Even if you can't have an "official" interview try to get the answers and give the Community an "unofficial" one. This way we at least get some answers. LOL.

Izzy Ownz

Izzy Ownz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2014

Mo/

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Originally Posted by I ride my Pokemon View Post
Honestly I think this is a message from the higher-ups at Anet showing us that they don't want to have any publicity and ties with Guild Wars anymore. Their long terms goals remain in Guild Wars 2 and we should just deal with it.
That's what i'm doing right now, dealing with it.

To be honest i'm sure that they have answers for all of the questions that we made, and that those issues have already been addressed internally. David Ortiz is not just the Spanish Community Manager both for GW1 & GW2, he is also the European Community Team Lead. Possibly the one who declined the interview after the revision was Martin Kerstein (these are my guesses).

Since the interview is not going to be done, i leave here the image banner that i made for it. For the work not to be in vain! xD (the picture is of Embark Beach).




Thanks Arkon for making another try, good luck!

I ride my Pokemon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

W/A

It seems that these attempts of ArenaNet to strangle the very last life of the game are having an opposite effect.

Someone went as far as creating a Website to reunite e reignite the flames of this game after Anet communique (closing the Support Page)

Kinda dreary seeing that ArenaNet will just trample. Just for Curiosity the link is in Guild Wars Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/GuildWars?fref=nf#

Bristlebane

Bristlebane

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by I ride my Pokemon View Post
Someone went as far as creating a Website to reunite e reignite the flames of this game [...]
I've been at it too, working on a web application to easier build groups for missions, ZMs, dungeons etc. I don't know if I can finish it yet, but I'm making it smartphone friendly so people easily can see current events and gatherings easily.
And I already got the coolest domain for it.

I ride my Pokemon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

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Originally Posted by Bristlebane View Post
I've been at it too, working on a web application to easier build groups for missions, ZMs, dungeons etc. I don't know if I can finish it yet, but I'm making it smartphone friendly so people easily can see current events and gatherings easily.
And I already got the coolest domain for it.

Wow, that's madly cool. Any prognosis when it will be available?!

Geez this is a nice trigger of events. Interview - New Website - New App....

Pumps my old weary Guild Wars heart.

DoomFrost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

E/

Darn a little too late... my questions would have been.

1. What do you think of Guild Wars community now vs. past.
2. Do you still pop into Guild Wars from time to time?
3. What was your favorite community organized event?
4. Where do you see Guild Wars and it's player base 5/10 years from now?

Pretty much all I can think of.

Atro

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

A/

Pfft I'm so disappointed lol, I read the whole thread thinking I would see an interview Oh well.

Honestly, I think Anet would make much more money coming back here and working on GW1. GW2 was a major flop (IMO), I tried it for 4 months and could not get myself to like it, it was too different.

One can only dream!

Arkon Necrocannibal

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2011

As I said, I sent a message to Stephane Lo Presti but also Stephanie Bourguet.

Stephane just replied to me:

Quote:
Bonjour,

Comme vous le savez, la plupart des aspects de Guild Wars ont été construits de façon à faciliter l’automatisation du jeu et permettre à la communauté de continuer à s’amuser avec le jeu. Ceci étant dit nous ne donnons pas d’interview à propos du jeu étant donné que, comme nous l’avons expliqué à de nombreuses reprises, nous ne développons pas de nouveau contenu pour le jeu. Merci pour votre intérêt et votre soutien.

Cordialement.
__________________________________
Stéphane Lo Presti
Guild Wars French Community Manager
ArenaNet, Inc.
Google translation

Quote:

Hello there,

As you know, most aspects of Guild Wars have been constructed to facilitate the automation of the game and allow the community to continue to have fun with the game That said we do not give interview About the game because, as we have said many times, we do not develop new content for the game Thanks for your interest and support.

Best regards.
__________________________________
Stéphane Lo Presti
Guild Wars French Community Manager
ArenaNet, Inc.

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

[bomb]

Ty all for the effort. They could at least add it to GOG or such sites to possibly get some new fresh air. That would mean money for them as well no? Heh.

Lasai

Lasai

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Join Date: Apr 2009

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I have to look on the bright side, If they are ignoring GW that means we won't be subjected to the horrifying writing and lore revisions done by the LS writing team.

Don't know where Jeff and Ree are, McCoy and friends obviously have zero oversight.

I guess it is a small blessing that the New Anet is leaving this game alone.

Since Strain left it appears O'Brian only listens to the "good Idea Fairy"
"pssst. Lets merge ALL the servers and tell em it's a feature upgrade"

Thank you so much for trying to get some answers though.

MaxBorken

MaxBorken

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Join Date: Jul 2009

London UK

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Originally Posted by Lasai View Post
"pssst. Lets merge ALL the servers and tell em it's a feature upgrade".
Hmm... Merge all the servers = remove euro/Asian/American/etc districts? That would be superb from my point of view. 1000 people allowed in an outpost..... Less maintenance too.

That's so crazy it might just work.

Max

fadekill

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Join Date: Jul 2012

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Originally Posted by MaxBorken View Post
Hmm... Merge all the servers = remove euro/Asian/American/etc districts? That would be superb from my point of view. 1000 people allowed in an outpost..... Less maintenance too.

That's so crazy it might just work.

Max
I think he/she was talking about GW2 Server merging into mega-servers.

MaxBorken

MaxBorken

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London UK

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Originally Posted by fadekill View Post
I think he/she was talking about GW2 Server merging into mega-servers.
Ah probably. I never bought gw2, so that didn't occur

Max

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Atro View Post
Pfft I'm so disappointed lol, I read the whole thread thinking I would see an interview Oh well.

Honestly, I think Anet would make much more money coming back here and working on GW1. GW2 was a major flop (IMO), I tried it for 4 months and could not get myself to like it, it was too different.

One can only dream!
I'm with you I played it off and on since it came out but could never get into it. WvW was fun for awhile but then it got old too. I still have some fun playing GW1. If they close GW2 alot of the players would come back to 1.

Atro

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

A/

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Originally Posted by Phaern Majes View Post
I'm with you I played it off and on since it came out but could never get into it. WvW was fun for awhile but then it got old too. I still have some fun playing GW1. If they close GW2 alot of the players would come back to 1.
Yep, I think the GW2 players would hate GW1 though :P But hey, we love it and I would love to see it revived somehow, but that won't happen :|

I miss almost every aspect of the game in general. As of late ESO has been filling the void GW1 left in my heart. But nothing will ever be as great as GW1

GhostKairi

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...But nothing will ever be as great as GW1
This is the problem I have with every new MMO I try.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

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Originally Posted by GhostKairi View Post
This is the problem I have with every new MMO I try.

i have the same, thats why i'm worried now

every other MMO i do like a bit, i cant play without thinking its not as fun as GW
a few are lord of the rings online (i'm no fan of lord of the rings, yet i do like the game), perfect world (the game, not all games from the company)

and even older games like super smash bros brawl (on wii) and all other rpg's i once could play for hours

i do play portal 2, but i wanna make advanced levels..... i just dont have the patience to go on, which i CAN do in GW (although atm its kinda dead around me, but am waiting for a certain someone to make me play again)

Nekodesu

Nekodesu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkon Necrocannibal View Post
Hello Izzy Ownz,

Please check this out:
https://www.facebook.com/GuildWars/p...2?notif_t=like
That is a letter the community of Guru made about 15 months ago.
There is currently 251 likes and still no answer. If you are talking to the community manager, please put the problem in front of him without escape

For those who didn't read, it's about crowfunding an other extension of Guild Wars.
That post has now been deleted by ANet. Go figure.

Anyway, I started reading the thread and got really excited but I sort of knew it wasn't going to happen. As dumb as that is.

if they ever close the servers I hope that we will see someone figure out how to host the game on their own, possibly even provide updates for it with other passionate players. Place the server in china or spread it across.

If they turn the servers off the only thing we can do is harass them on their GW2 forum. But their moderators there are vigilant and know how to rid people of opinions quickly.

Bristlebane

Bristlebane

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nekodesu View Post
That post has now been deleted by ANet. Go figure.
Lol, so funny that a thread staying up for 15 months just happened to be deleted weeks after community started referring to it.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nekodesu View Post
That post has now been deleted by ANet. Go figure.

Anyway, I started reading the thread and got really excited but I sort of knew it wasn't going to happen. As dumb as that is.

if they ever close the servers I hope that we will see someone figure out how to host the game on their own, possibly even provide updates for it with other passionate players. Place the server in china or spread it across.

If they turn the servers off the only thing we can do is harass them on their GW2 forum. But their moderators there are vigilant and know how to rid people of opinions quickly.
i can say this again "they wont, cuz it would be real stupid"
BUT, if they should do that, i dont think much of GW2 would be left, so harassing them would be impossible unless you do it right after GW would be down, before GW2 goes bad, then anet wont exist anymore (cuz as far as i know, GW and GW2 are their only hopes, its arenanet i'm talking about, not ncsoft)

many people would leave GW2 without GW (or even with GW, as far as i see lately), so would make GW2 less and less wanted after a while (ps. i dont say its gonna die, but has a big chance of dying off slowly.... even if its very slowly)

i see prices of RL money and shards are bad (or at least hear from people), and they ask too much for too little, plus most stuff is grinding

anyway, what i'm trying to say, is that GW might not bring as much as GW2 (still) does, but would bring a sh**load of people back and bring way more money in if they'd.... continue
i know i know, this time i believe the "its not gonna happen", but i think there's a small chance.... if anet would be smarter

i talk too much again, so i leave it at this

small EDIT:
i heard also that anet deletes gw related topics on GW2 forums, and that they dont watch fansites of GW anymore (maybe gw2 either, dunno)