55 hp E/Mo in UW

Undead Silverhawk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Venator Solaris

Mo/Me

why spend tons on monk runes? if you might aswel go ele/mo and buy some sups for 1k each.

And obsidian flesh is even longer than spellbreaker...

You will need an ss/sv Necromancer to go with you.

First buy some sup runes to get to 105 health and get the grim chesta.
Then get something with + enchanting. I use a fiery flame spitter of enchanting which also gives 10% chance of fast skil recharge.

Attributes:
Earth: 11+4
Healing: 9
Protection: 8
Rest: Energy Storage

Skills:
Obsidian flesh = Functions as a spellbreaker for dieing nightmare
Obsidian Flame = To kill dieing nightmares. If you keep getting interrupted just ask the ss/sv to wand him.
Aura of Restoration = Not needed for aataxes or Darknesses. But when you want to kill ALOT of smites you might wanna use this.
Healing breeze = Keep it up constant while fighting
Mending = 3 pips regain ftw.
Balthazars Spirit = Energy
Essence bond = Energy
Prot Spirit = Keep up at all costs.

If you wanna get some more damage swap Aura of Restoration for Crystwal Wave.
You wil probally have to pay 1st run though since people won't believe you can do it-.-

/Silverhawk

Josh

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

Too much exhaustion. And with Ob Flame your only type of damage, then that's not exactly any good. ;\

Undead Silverhawk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Venator Solaris

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Too much exhaustion. And with Ob Flame your only type of damage, then that's not exactly any good. ;\
Did you even bother reading?
Quote:
You will need an ss/sv Necromancer to go with you. And obsidian flame is just there for dying shadows.
And thats the only exhaustion there is.
Read before judging?

/Silverhawk

awoeonip

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

cali

I tried this build...worked like a charm. Had a friend Me/N come along with me...we cleared all the smites and got past the clear the chamber quest. I find that obsidian flame is really not necessary for killing the nightmares...I took two on at once with a wand with the help of obsidian flesh I replaced it with crystal wave, which was a nice finisher for the smites...also saved my ass once against the coldfires.

Undead Silverhawk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Venator Solaris

Mo/Me

And to aweonip. I usually dont take a wand but an axe to get longer enchantments. But with ss/sv can either wand him or use SV which then wil cause the dieing nightmare to bip himself to dead.
Also some additions :

Griffons:
balth spirit
essence bond
Mending
Healing breeze
Prot spirit
aura restoration
inferno
flameburst


and minos:
arcane echo
mist form
magnetic aura
earth attunement
channeling
earthquake
aftershock
crystal wave


/Silverhawk
p.s: Go E/R serpents quickness, 16 water, 20% enchantments, permanent mist form.
Advantage: Infinitive enemies. invinci can take many but not infinitive
Disadvantage: Weaker AoE

Undead Silverhawk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Venator Solaris

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by awoeonip
I tried this build...worked like a charm. Had a friend Me/N come along with me...we cleared all the smites and got past the clear the chamber quest. I find that obsidian flame is really not necessary for killing the nightmares...I took two on at once with a wand with the help of obsidian flesh I replaced it with crystal wave, which was a nice finisher for the smites...also saved my ass once against the coldfires. +Coldfires. Those are easy aswel. Just aggro them. Obsidian flesh so no maelstorms. Just let em spiteful themselfs to dead. Also when it runs out just walkk out of maelstorms. You can actually just stand into it and get some nice fast energy.

Also against the FlameTerrors (whatever there name is) drop essence bond. Since it wont get ya any energy.

/Silverhawk

Gildor Took

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Australia, 3rd rock from the sun

Mo/

nice build i would use aftershock instead of crystal wave it seems to me that aftershock does more dmg and is more spammable then crystal wave.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

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Just got back doing my first underworld trip with my ele tank. Worked great.

Crystal wave works very well, but I didn't find myself using it that much. Probably because I was still a bit afraid to keep protective and breeze up.

Aftershock my be better, but does it still take armor and magic resistance into consideration?

Undead Silverhawk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Venator Solaris

Mo/Me

AS is faster recharge but does less damage cause of the heavy armor of the aataxes especially. So you want as much armor ignoring damage as possible.

/Silverhawk

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

CA

Scythes of Chaos [SoC], [PNOY] alliance guild forums: http://socguild.cjb.net

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So essence bond and balth spirit give u enough energy to spam everything and u cast these on urself?

Undead Silverhawk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Venator Solaris

Mo/Me

Yep,

If you notice your low just attacked an aataxe and get energy from his riposites.
Against terrors drop essence bond.

/Silverhawk

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

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I've been having some problems with the build the last few times I've gone down. I do great against the attaxes, but for some reason when the Grasping Darknesses get to me sometimes, I suddenly die, even with protective spirit and healing up.

I'm stumped. And no there weren't any nightmares unknowingly mixed in with the group.

Undead Silverhawk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Venator Solaris

Mo/Me

All I could think of then is their damage being better than ur regain.
But if you got aura restoration on and just use spells that shouldn't be possible.
And that wouldn't be suddenly.
Got no idea of the cause of this tbh

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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Question:

I seen in other thread that you can have any armor from Asaclon on up - is this true? Or do you need like the 60A from Drok and stuff?

pegasux

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

Ascalon armor will work just the same with a 55hp build. Your hp decrease is set to max 10%

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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Ok, I think I'm following that. Very spiffy then, thank you.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

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It is possible that their hits are more than my regen, but we had a support monk with us who put their mending and their higher level enchants on me. Don't know, will have to try it again.

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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Oh, what the hey is a Fiery Flame SPitter of Enchanting? Wand? Staff? And if so, how are you using the Grim Cesta?

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit
Oh, what the hey is a Fiery Flame SPitter of Enchanting? Wand? Staff? And if so, how are you using the Grim Cesta? Fiery Flame Spitter is an axe that can be obtained from a collector a short jont from Serenity temple.

The reason it is so nice is that it has a 10% global skill recharge chance mod built in and can have further modifications put on it (unlike wands). So most people will wind up putting a +% enchant mod on it to make the enchantments last longer.

It is a single handed weapon and can therefore put the -50 offhand on the other to make your 55 build's enchants last longer and have a chance for quicker recharge.

It is the red headed stepchild to the HoD sword in many people's opinion.

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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Really now? What does he ask for?

Edit: Nevermind, found him

Cheers!

EditEdit: Best Mods to put on it would be?

zeldamaster

zeldamaster

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kingston, Jamaica

The Court Of Pure Souls

E/N

nice build. got nething for ettins?

LouAl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

@ Cherno

I had some similar problems when first trying out the invinci mesmer. It seemed like everything was going well and suddenly I was dead...

I tried to pay special attention to why I was dying and I had a few reasons why it was happening, but they may not be the same as what happened to you. A combat log would be really nice...

1. the grasp's fear me was knocking out my energy and I didn't notice. I thought I reapplied PS or HB and really didn't
2. the grasp's hit me with a interupt when reapplying PS or HB and I didn't notice (they are dang fast at interupting).
3. Every once in a while a nightmare would pop and drop my enchants and wouldn't drop anything

I still had a few that I am not sure what happened but I can pretty much conclude that it was something in this area

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit
Really now? What does he ask for?

Edit: Nevermind, found him

Cheers!

EditEdit: Best Mods to put on it would be? 20% Enchant or closest depending on your money. I have also been thinking about changing this to put an icy mod on it. Then a support necro can put spinal shivers on something and I can constantly interrupt.

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherno
20% Enchant or closest depending on your money. I have also been thinking about changing this to put an icy mod on it. Then a support necro can put spinal shivers on something and I can constantly interrupt. I can get a 20% Enchant for it most certainly, and I lik ethe Icy/Spinal thing.

M C H A M M E R

M C H A M M E R

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Drunken Rangers [DR], Sig of Ultimate Doom [SiG]

W/

take out obs flame, and put in crystal wave along with aftershock.

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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Why so Mch?

Undead Silverhawk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Venator Solaris

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by M C H A M M E R
take out obs flame, and put in crystal wave along with aftershock. Take out 1 skill put 2 in..? err?

And I just use Fiery Flame Spitter of Enchanting
20%.

THe pre-fix doesn't matter to much.

/Silverhawk

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Undead Silverhawk
Take out 1 skill put 2 in..? err?

And I just use Fiery Flame Spitter of Enchanting
20%.

THe pre-fix doesn't matter to much.

/Silverhawk Awesome, thank you muchly

Snype

Snype

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

.:Pro Guildhopper:.

Mo/Me

I just did my first successful run tonight and it was great. I didnt have a +enchant or anything though, so it is possible. But before my next run im gonna try to get one.

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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Really now Snype? Was it with a small group? By your self? With a necro? Any tips or suggestions?

Snype

Snype

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

.:Pro Guildhopper:.

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit
Really now Snype? Was it with a small group? By your self? With a necro? Any tips or suggestions? With a Necro. Just MAKE SURE that the necro knows to try to take care of the dying nightmares beacuse those are the only things that pose the real problem to you. Also, if you have to fight any coldfires (you should only have to fight 2, if any) then make sure you put on obsidian flesh to stop their malestrom and shard storm.

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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Awesome, thank you once more!

Undead Silverhawk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Venator Solaris

Mo/Me

I usually don't have much problems with coldfires, Just use obsidian flesh and when it runs out just run around of maelstorms.
(whenever you need energy you can stand in 1 but make sure you get out on time)

To the Dieing NIghtmares. Thats why I brought Obsidian Flame. Since crystwal wave damage is negliable compared to spiteful all the time.
Can get interrrupt but just keep trieing. If they keep interrupting ask for an Sympahtic Visage so they won't be able to interrupt anymore or let the necromancer kill him.
Don't use obsidian flame if you got darknesses since skul crack will kill ya.
But usually all the dieing nightmares are dead cause of ur run with the aataxes.

/Silverhawk

Amsterdam

Amsterdam

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Wisconsin

dth

Good Idea. I admire the creativity. Probably hard to convince necros to come with in Uw runs though.

Cyberstar

Cyberstar

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/Mo

Darn really great build, i tried it several times now with guldm8 who runs ss/sv necro. personaly i wouldnt bring Obsidian flame for nughtmares, since i got Obsidian flesh so i cant be targeted by there spells and they die easely from 2 or 3 wand hits. i favour to use the flame slot for orison of healing gives ya a full heal anytime. gotta try that flame spitter axe u mentioned, i now use collecters earth wand

Undead Silverhawk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Venator Solaris

Mo/Me

Probally best is:

Bring Crystal Wave.
Just swap to wand when there's some nightmare.. Else just equip your 20%
1-handed item. (Fiery Flame Spitter of ench for example).

/Silverhawk

Eragon Dragonslayer

Eragon Dragonslayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Right Behind You

The Raven Evolution [wvw]

A/

so lemme get this straight...we have a 55 necro, a 55 monk and now a 55 ele? whats next...a 55 war? a 55 ranger? a 55 mesmer? sheesh personally i have a 55 necro and he rocks....u know...im gonna try to make a 55 war build...a w/mo... wish me luck =) u might see it posted on the war sub fourms soon....

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eragon Dragonslayer
so lemme get this straight...we have a 55 necro, a 55 monk and now a 55 ele? whats next...a 55 war? a 55 ranger? a 55 mesmer? sheesh personally i have a 55 necro and he rocks....u know...im gonna try to make a 55 war build...a w/mo... wish me luck =) u might see it posted on the war sub fourms soon....
Any profession works with 55hp and protective spirit active!
I suppose it's just a matter of skillz and timing after that...

Sinjin

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mile High Club [mile]

Mo/

yup - any profession with low HP + protective spirit can do it. so, you'll need a monk 2ndary at least.

basically ... any 55 you can do, a monk can do better =)

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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We've got 55 Monk, Necro, Mesmer and Elementalist.

I suspect someoen can do some sort of R/Mo Traper like build or something (set traps, aggor, continue to set traps while they're attacking you, etc.)

W/Mo though...hm...hard to think.