Best Pet?

Gamesguy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

Well, bear is your best bet if you want to body block people with them

ratatass

ratatass

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New Mexico

Just to sum it up so its all clear:

1. All pets the same.

2. Spider with a fractional higher damage output.

3. Armor level on lev 20 Pet is 80 and they move 20% faster than before.

4. Moa Bird is the largest pet I believe.

5. Vermillion is right about the prefixes on the pets.

6. I was not aware that you could not charm a bear in presearing. It has
been done. You just need to be two to do it and time it right.

7. Pet evolving to prefixes....I have never been able to figure it out if its
right. Bla bla bteween lev 12-15 if high BM etc etc....shrug.

8. Before last update, based on data your pet at Beastmastery 12 would
pack roughly about 10-11 dps. Add in Call of Haste and do the math. Not
counting pet attacks. Now I'm not sure sinc ethey increased the pets
speeD. HOWEVER IF IT SAYS +15 in skill description. Then I have found it is similar to what a bow attack would do at +15.....yes duuuh of course. But just had to point it out.

9. Pets more so now than before are getting a more important role in PvP
and PvE. Easy bleed on target. Ferocius strike.

10. They grow with level. Ever seen a level 20 Moa ? Enormous...

11. They do have different damage types though, blunt, piercing etc.

12. How do u make the pet attack first ? Find an obstruction. FIRE. Your arrow reaches target, but your wolfie or Moa will storm in and Aggro.

13. And it is fun.




Ratatass

jesh

jesh

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

Penguin Village

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ratatass
2. Spider with a fractional higher damage output.
Elder pets do a little more, not just spiders. An elder wolf does the same amount, hence why you get one on a pvp character.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ratatass
13. And it is fun.
Amen.

The Hand Of Death

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Devil's Dictionary
Warthogs.
Warthogs are the overall best pets. They are small yet pack quite a wallop. They are cute too .
I agree totally.

The Hand Of Death

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Devil's Dictionary
Warthogs ARE strong. At early levels he was attacked by 3 level 4 Graws (he was level 5-6) while I was killing their priest. Believe it or not, but the Warthog killed one Graw, almost killed another and was at more than 50% health.

By the way, I named my Warthog Oink in honour of the Oink of Gate of Kryta: when I played the WBE, I always wanted to charm Oink .

I believe "Playful" is a prefix given to your pet if you grant it a lot of attention (comfort animal and such).
I named mine Bacon.

Charr Killer

Charr Killer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

In a box on a street corner

Blazin Dragons [BD]

ive heard that u can tame the "Prize-Winning Hogs" in pre-searing

with the info i got from the same place (i ferget the site) it says that they are invincible! its says that they are pretty weak but the enemies will never notice them... ever.

BUT who knows maybe it isn't true sum1 shud check

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

the best post searing pet is the UW spider... comes at lvl 20 and has poison.

somewhere in the UW it will come out of a chest. Search it on google

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charr Killer
ive heard that u can tame the "Prize-Winning Hogs" in pre-searing

with the info i got from the same place (i ferget the site) it says that they are invincible! its says that they are pretty weak but the enemies will never notice them... ever.

BUT who knows maybe it isn't true sum1 shud check
yes it is true that the prize winning hogs are invisible, but you can no longer get them. you used to be able to tame them but after a month after release it was changed. people where farming kryta with them.

pork soldier

pork soldier

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hand Of Death
I named mine Bacon.
I named mine Pork Soldier, I've also named it Porque and White Meat. I noticed that when my pet advanced to Hearty he about doubled in size, so he's not small any more.

Wheez

Wheez

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Netherlands

Leave Or Cry Opponents [Loco]

The underworld spider doesn't come out of a chest, it just spawns after u did a quest near a fountain. And it's at lvl 20 yes, and it doesn't distract or poison without skills. I can know, my ranger owns one .

Ashleigh McMahon

Ashleigh McMahon

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

North East England

WoTU[Warlords of the Underworld]

Mo/Me

People only think the Spider is the strongest pet because the tests that were took out matched a dire spider( +2 attack, -60hp) , against a hearty bear(-2 attack, +60hp). All pets are equal. Anet also states that they will never bring any "best weapon" into the game that would unbalance the economy, this is the same with pets. I've had a hearty black widow, who did less damage than a dire bear, and I've had a dire widow, who did more damage than a Hearty bear. It all depends on evolutions.

Heres evolutions and a few paths:

Playfull- -1 attack, +30hp
Aggresive- +1 attack, -30hp
Hearty- -2attack, +60hp
Dire- +2 attack, -30hp
Elder- +1 attack, +30 hp( not confirmed,)

Evolution Paths.
Aggresive-Dire
Playfull-Hearty
Aggresive-Elder
Playfull-Elder.

A pet is usually evolved around level 11 and 15. A pet ONLY evolves twice. Hearty, and I can confirm this, seems too be the " larger" evolution.

My personal favourite is elder, as I get attack and hp bonus at the same time.

But remember, there is no BEST pet, it really is down too personal preference, ie: what looks coolest, what evolution you want.

Elder seems the hardest evolution too recieve, as it requires around 4 hours of " persific" training, as in only letting your pet do certain damage. Although people who get Elder without training are just lucky, as the pet recieved the correct training.

The only reason people think Spiders are overpowered is because it was a " Dire Spider" matched against "Hearty Bear/Other animal", therefor people would think that the dire spider has better attack, it does, against a hearty, but it also gets less hp.

And last, a few basics:

All pets get the same armour ( depending on level)
All pets get the same attack speed( although it may look different)
The special attacks that bears and lizards make( final thrust+ brutal mauling) are for show only, these deal no extra damage.
Spiders DO NOT deal out poison, and they never have.

I hope this answered everyones questions/ queries.

Regards, Ashleigh.

Jenosavel

Jenosavel

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Jul 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashleigh McMahon
Heres evolutions and a few paths:

Playfull- -1 attack, +30hp
Aggresive- +1 attack, -30hp
Hearty- -2attack, +60hp
Dire- +2 attack, -30hp
Elder- +1 attack, +30 hp( not confirmed,)

Actually, from my own personal tests the numbers are closer to:

Hearty x-2 to x-4 attack +60hp
Dire x+2 to x+4 attack -60hp
Elder x attack +0hp

Take the 'x' to be whatever you want, since my tests only pertained to relative values. This means if you're going to claim the Elder has +1 damage, you need to also be claiming approx. +3 to 5 damage for the Dire.


The rest of your information was pretty good though Ashleigh. I will point out, though, that Elder isn't any harder to evolve than any other pet, despite people's hang-up. They game really picks up on your play style and gives you an appropriate pet for it. If you're not coming up with the evolution you want maybe you should rethink either your play-style, or why you want that pet.

I'd also like to remind people that we do have a very accurate pet guide thread in the Community Works area. Please use it rather than speculate!

Ashleigh McMahon

Ashleigh McMahon

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

North East England

WoTU[Warlords of the Underworld]

Mo/Me

Thanks Jenov, I'd like to thanks "Dralspire" for explaining this to me ingame

I only stated that I thought elder was hardest because I have had 9 different pets, some were the same species. I always kept recieving dire or hearty pets ( hearty, mostly). The only one time I recieved an elder was when I took information from Dralspire on how too reach elder stage, it took me about 3-4 hours of training, and you have too be very picky on it.

Regards, Ashleigh.

Venus

Venus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hand Of Death
I named mine Bacon.
I named mine Wilbor, you know, from that book about that pig and the spider.... im forgeting the name currently though...

Spirital

Spirital

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Hall of the Necronomicon

Mo/E

I say spiders are the best pet ... for an ascended player. It comes lvl 20 and you dont need to bother leveling it.

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spirital
I say spiders are the best pet ... for an ascended player. It comes lvl 20 and you dont need to bother leveling it.
Levelling pets is pretty easy. I leveled my necromancer's pet Moa from 3 to 20 in a few hours - if you have a build that can solo a desert/south shiverpeaks/fire island area you can level a pet no problem.

Ashleigh McMahon

Ashleigh McMahon

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

North East England

WoTU[Warlords of the Underworld]

Mo/Me

For one, I actually find leveling pets the fun part of having them, along with several other reasons

Regards, Ashleigh.

BrandonIT

BrandonIT

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Dallas, TX

Tribal Instincts

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Venus
I named mine Wilbor, you know, from that book about that pig and the spider.... im forgeting the name currently though...
Charlotte's Web.

RoF

RoF

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

My hammer is stained with the blood of countless assassins.

We Eat Pancakes [Yumy]

W/

Personally, I like my cat

RotJ

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

According to these sources:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?p=580409
http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Pet

Elder is the balanced evolution with no dmg or health bonus. Based on the playing style you need to achieve it, this makes sense, as the 2nd evolution negates the first one. It doesn't make sense for ANet to allow an uber evolution that would makes the dire path completely suck.

Odai

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Columbus, Ohio

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baerwyn
I second that.

I always get comments on my "Playful Warthog".

By the way, is "playful" tagged onto their names after a certain level?
Named mine Pork Chop and I love taking it for a walk!

hellboy harpy

hellboy harpy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

gods and godesses of...

R/E

personally i think i would always go wit the dune lizard they attack great and llok kool

my top 5


1. dune lizard
2. melandrus stalker
3. wolf
4. hog
5. spider

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

People ask this kind of stuff all the time and all that ever happens is people say search for it, but anytime someone resurrects a thread so people can see it and not post the same thing - people jump down their throats. So before anything like thats posted - they can just resist the urge to hit Post Reply.

Now. pets are basically the same (within their own prefix group). The only differences: They are either Slashing or Piercing dmg, and The Bear's Brutal Mauling makes it slower than the rest, but really doesnt add any damage...

I like Dune Lizards though Look cool.

hellboy harpy

hellboy harpy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

gods and godesses of...

R/E

I like Dune Lizards though Look cool.[/QUOTE]


ya and i like cause i think they hit more and they are piercing dmg.

Nathan the Skank

Nathan the Skank

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Cincinnati

Sleepless Farmers

W/E

There should be a pet that can hit from a distance, like a drake with fireballs or something......

yea......

Cartoonhero

Cartoonhero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sooner Nation

Mo/



you want a beastly bird like Daxter here

Sum Gai

Sum Gai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Toronto

Me/

All pets are the same, aside from their damage type and species. By species, I mean EoE-wise, when 1 Wolf dies, all other wolves take xxx amount of damage, but not hogs, since hogs are hogs and not wolves. Damage compared to BM, attack speed, move speed, HP and Armor are all the same.

FireFrenzy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Lost Elite (lost)

R/E

My Stalker is fuzly!!! |-|3 |33 1337 [/n00b]

The way i read it in GWG's ultimate guide to pets there all identical... they just look different...

VGJustice

VGJustice

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tyria, cappin' ur bosses

Boston Guild [BG]

R/W

I adore the Lynx. That's what I'm trying to get to Aggresive status right now.

....and holy bejeebus, Cartoonhero, that's one freakin massive bird you got there :O

....or is that just a really short Ranger chicka? :3

Zobi

Zobi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Europe

FR

The Striders and Moas are massive. I have a Hearty Strider and he is immense!

X Apocrathe X

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/Mo

firstly this forum has been a real help particually this part about people moaning about pets so i all i need to know is how can i tame a bear in pre-sear as when i try to charm it breaks it instantly even when i get someone to attack it first, so is there another way or could some one atleast tell me the location of tamable ones please , all i want is a huge grizzly by my side

Burakus Lightwing

Burakus Lightwing

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

you wont be able to tame a bear in pre-sear. You will have to go post sear and then into the shiverpeaks to tame a black bear.

nunix

nunix

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/

Hmm, when did that change? In the early days if you had an interrupt, charming worked fine...

Does anyone have a pic of an advanced dune lizard? I'm wondering how large they get.

Blkout

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by nunix
Hmm, when did that change? In the early days if you had an interrupt, charming worked fine...

Does anyone have a pic of an advanced dune lizard? I'm wondering how large they get.
I have a level 20 Dune Lizard. Whisper me in game, Marksman Raven, to see it.

Mr D J

Mr D J

Permanently Unbanned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcount
Moss Spiders ARE charmable, they come out of some green chest in Underworld, but you're just too weak to get there.
lol green chest all u gotta do is just finish couple of quest, my ranger got his black widow after 2nd try (sniff sniff thiefs )

detox_killa

detox_killa

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

disturbed killers

W/Mo

eh i like wolfs best then dune lizards

toric brightblade

toric brightblade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Searching for EU farm guild

A/

hah green chest.
you do a few quests in the underworld, and then a elder black widow spider comes out of a crack in the wall or something, then you can tame it. this is hard though, and some pps are offering services for it for over 50k.

Kassad

Kassad

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

Best pet would obviously be... Dune Lizard! Nothing wrong with mini-godzilla's running around killing everything they see.

jibikao

jibikao

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

Strider/Moa Bird is the best!!!

It's huge, easier to see.

It's annoying, easier to annoy your opponents.

deerain

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

um i read the messages about the elder black widow i know what uw means but how do i get there is it the temple of ages or the accsension or what?

if someone can ansewer i would apressiate it because as i was reading about the the elder black widow i have just been dieing to get one.