Rune Farming - Ettin exploitation

The Piyero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Israel

W/Mo

Well i still think that Ettin's solo with sword require Savage Slash because this attack is faster then normal attacks, so its easy to interupt Healing Signet *AND* its add more damage just like all the other sword skills, thats the best way i can see to use the energy i got from my gladiator armor
The only problem is that its got 20 seconds of recharge.

Hakuin

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Equal Opprotunity Employers

Mo/W

euhm... ettin farming was nerfed... tehy drop nothing now

Bap

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Virtuosic

E/Me

Actually they frequently drop major's i got about 5 major vigors and full pouch/bags limit of purples in a few runs

master kisho

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Five Tigers [HAN]

W/Mo

here is my product of 3 runs lol :

Arkese

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Nights Watch [Crow]

Well, I still haven't done THK, and don't have GW : F yet, so this is my build :
Cleave {E}
Penetrating Blow
Executioner's Strike
Disrupting Chop
Flurry
Virgorous Spirit
Live Vicariously
Sprint

I have done only one attribute points quest, so I have 15 less. My attributes :
11 Healing Prayers
12+1+3 Axe Mastery
4+1 Strength

As mentioned before, after you're done with the Ettins in Nebo Terrace go to North Kryta Province, through the Ascalon Settlement, there you will find 4~10 more Ettins. After killing them just go back to Nebo Terrace and repeat until your inventory is full.

One run -

remmeh

remmeh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Apathy Inc [AI]

R/Mo

I cleared all the ettins in NKP and Nebo. Result: not one pauldron. not even a white one. NERFED.

Dauntless

Dauntless

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

NOT nerfed. I did one run yesterday unitil I had a pack full of minor major and superior runes plus a few common crafting materials. I got 2 superior monk runes, a rnager superior rune and a mesmer superior rune not to mention a bunch of random minor and majors. So not nerfed, those of you who think it is should take a brek from ettins for a little while and let their drop rate replenish. When my drop rate declines i'll farm something else for a couple of days then come back and the ettins will have good drops.

Luciora

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Prophecy

E/Mo

Well after not farmign the ettins for over a month, I still get no drops. WTF?!?

Maybe I need to find a better time in the day to go when others aren't killing the poor things...

Nam Seill

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/R

This run sounds really interesting, will have to try it when I get back home today Just wanted to tell you guys about a different farming run I did yesterday - I started off with my lvl 17 W/R (alone, full droks to make it a bit easier) from Yak's bend. Heading towards Iron Horse Mines, I killed everything in sight, then proceeded inside Iron Horse mines, I killed about half of the foes there before my inv was full so I decided to warp back. The loot? Here's the short list:

- Furious Giant Slayer's Hammer of Fortitude (Golden)
- Several blue and purple weapons from which I salvaged some pretty neat upgrade components,
- Black Dye (oh, yeah, come to daddy )
- Rune of Major Vigor (salvaged from a purple beast rider harness)
- several other major runes,
- a lot of assorted junk to be sold at merchants or salvaged into crafting materials - note that for a lot of those dwarven robes/armor items you can get rare crafting materials, primarily steel ingots and leather squares.
All in all, I managed to get a total of 20-25 k worth of loot in a run that literally took me 20 mins to complete. Granted, I did get extremely lucky with that black dye, and it was on the third attempt.. the first two weren't so great (about 2-3k worth of loot each), so I'll try to farm those ettins around Ascalon Settelment, as you guys seem to get good drops there. This run can get a bit boring because it's not much of a challenge - the only thing you need to watch out for are the stone summit howlers - if there are any in the mob I found that leaving them for last usually works best. Kill everyone else, use healing sig as necessary, and wait for your attack skills to recharge before going for them - they've got vampiric touch so you want to be fast about killing them. I used lightning reflexes to get their health to about half, then the cyclone axe/executioner strike combo to finish them off.

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

Nam, here's a link to a thread discussing what you describe:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3065736

I ran it about 5 times and got one gold, maybe 900g worth of loot, so it's definately a YMMV kind of situation. :P

Sedna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Singapore

Veritas Invictus [TRUE]

It's all about luck here. I've been farming it with my W/Mo:

1) Frenzy
2) Sever Artery
3) Gash
4) Standing Slash
5) Silverwing Slash
6) Dragon Slash [E]
7) Vigorous Spirit
8) Sprint

Swordsmanship: 12+3
Strength: 8+1+3
Healing Prayers: 10

I use an Icy Dragon Sword of Defense, kills much faster with an elemental hilt. When I need mana I will switch to a zealous sword and leech back quite a bit of it while still killing ettins. I skip everything in Nebo Terrace and go straight to Northern Kryta Province.

Nam Seill

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/R

Well, I honestly can't say whether of not this ettin run has been nerfed or not - I've been doing it for 3 days now, on the first day I pulled one sup. rune (axe mastery - nice, but nothing spectacular), however during the last two days all I managed to get were some pretty worthless minor and major runes - all sell for 25gp at rune trader.. Might give it another go later. If anyone gets something nice here, please post so we know it's still possible. Another thing - in the middle of this area is the statue of Dwayna - if you kneel she will appear, and for 50 gp you can buy her blessing, so you get health and energy regen (constant, until you get back to town). When I did this, killing ettins became ridiculuosly easy, BUT I got pretty much nothing from them - could just be bad luck, but.. does anyone know if this affects the drops?

BTW here's my W/R build that worked well for me;
lvl 20 W/R, full droks armor (knight's), eternal shield arm. 16 with 5 dmg absorption and a totem axe for extra energy.
Strenght - 12
Axe Mastery - 11
Tactics - 8
(the rest, whatever, up to you)
skills:
lightning reflexes
executioner's strike
cyclone axe
disrupting chop
healing signet
sprint
endure pain
bonetti's defence (use whatever defensive stance you like here)

When attacking ettins, I try to make sure I take no more then 3 at a time, makes it a bit easier. I target the first one, when I get to it I activate lightning reflexes to quickly get about 30% of his health down and charge up my adrenaline. I give them one cyclone axe as soon as LR deactivates, at this point disrupting chop should be ready and the ettin targeted should try and activate it's healing sig. When he does, I use my disrupting chop, which also disables that skill (healing sig) for 20 secs - which is longer then he'll live, anyway. At this point, I use my defensive stance, endure pain, and/or healing sig as necessary to keep standing, and the combination of executioner's strike and cyclone axe to bring the first one down. If my health is below 50% when done, I usually sprint away to regen, then I can take the two remaining ettins in a single attempt.

Belicosos Finos

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

UK

Heros of the Rose [HotR]

W/

Not nerfed :-)

Over the weekend I managed to get Sup vigor, Sup Absorb x 2, Sup Axe, Sup Protection, Sup Divine favour. and thats just the ones I kept. got a few more runes, that I gave away or sold.


Used my modified fow spider farming build.

W/Me

Whirling Axe {E}
Power Attack
Disrupting Chop
Dolyak Signet
"Watch Yourself"
Physical Resistance
Healing Signet
Sprint/Endure Pain/"To the Limit"

Sedna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Singapore

Veritas Invictus [TRUE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nam Seill
*snip* Why do you use the evasion/block stances when the ettins use irresistable blow? IMO your build could very much be improved Also, are you farming the ettins in nebo terrace? IMO skip them and go straight to N Kryta. The ettins there drop much better than 1 sup rune in 5 runs. It works, but it can be faster

Dralspire

Retired

Join Date: Apr 2005

Honestly, I have always had pretty speedy ettin kills with bleeding and healing signet interrupts.

Nam Seill

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedna
Why do you use the evasion/block stances when the ettins use irresistable blow? IMO your build could very much be improved Also, are you farming the ettins in nebo terrace? IMO skip them and go straight to N Kryta. The ettins there drop much better than 1 sup rune in 5 runs. It works, but it can be faster In all honesty, I don't use the defensive stance at all during this run I use LR for better damage over time, and so I get my adrenaline pumped up and my disrupt skill ready. Anyway, as you observed, it works... However, idiot that I am, I never bothered to read that there are ettins in N. Kryta as well to be farmed, with better drops no less. BTW yesterday I did this run (in Nebo terrace) and pulled one sup. Healing Prayers rune - again, not spectacular, but not a bad bit of cash on the side either from a single drop.. So I confirm - these guys still drop sup. runes. Since I've been playing for a long time now, and I've never even SEEN a sup. vigor rune (and I'm pissed about that ) I'll just keep repeating the run until I get at least 1 sup. vigor and 1 sup. absorption..

robroy312

robroy312

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

Erie, PA

Voice of the Blue Bear

W/Mo

OK I suppose I should post my standard build here as well, so here goes.
W/Mo 20
I have an Icy Dragon Sword with 15^50 and Victo's Bulwark but any 15^50 sword and max shield will work.
Skills are as follows:

Battle Rage
Sever Artery
Gash
Silverwing slash
Galrath Slash
Final Thrust
Mending
Live Vicariously
I do not run past the mergoyle but kill them, it does not take long.
Then as you proceed east there are two pairs of Tengu, one wild and one scout.
Race in and kill the wild...he will strip your later enchantment, not a big deal.
kill the scout and reapply whichever enchantment you lost. charge the second wild and kill him, then the scout again. That done prepare to hunt.

Replace both enchantments and attack the Ettins
I have taken on 11 ettins with this build and survived. Energy is not an issue because you are using all adrenaline skills.
Follow the map posted at the beginning, but here is the real deal. Collect ONLY runic armors or gold weapons. leave everything else. When you reach the end of the map turn around and go back to Nebo Terrace again and kill the respawned ettins. you can do this all day long if you wish and since you are technically leaving an area into a city and coming back to the same area you will not have to deal with overfarming the area. You should bear in mind that there are slow times that you may not see a lot of runes dropping, but one good hunt will keep you coming back.

Dralspire

Retired

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eragon Dragonslayer
Dral....ive always wondered how much exp do u have on ur monk? Haha ... way too much, and that is all I will admit.

Eragon Dragonslayer

Eragon Dragonslayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Right Behind You

The Raven Evolution [wvw]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dralspire
Haha ... way too much, and that is all I will admit.
Aww cmon it cant be as bad as the Chinese Farming Bots (CFB for short) which have 50mil+ u can pm me and tell me and i promise i wont tell anyone =D

i bet u only have like 10 mil...

Nam Seill

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/R

Just wanted to report, I managed to pull a sup. absorption rune yesterday - it was dropped by one of the first ettins you encounter in the N. Kryta province (the 3rd one, actually, there are two groups of two ettins at the beginning). So, anyone claiming it's been nerfed, sorry, you just had bad luck..

Eragon Dragonslayer

Eragon Dragonslayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Right Behind You

The Raven Evolution [wvw]

A/

well its just 1...mayb if u got more in a few runs...then it might not have been nerfed....

Eragon Dragonslayer

Eragon Dragonslayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Right Behind You

The Raven Evolution [wvw]

A/

well its just 1...mayb if u got more in a few runs...then it might not have been nerfed....

Colinrm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/E

Ive ran it prolly close to 8 times in the past couple weeks, and Ive gotten about 5 superior runes, 10-12 majors, and like 5 minors. I don't think its nerfed but, it may be...

BTW....Do they tend to give better drops if you skip the first zone of ettins after you leave bettletun and go straight to the North Kryta province, or is it just that some people have better luck this way?

Nam Seill

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/R

Well, I went again yesterday... and some things felt different. First of all, in Nebo terrace, after you run past the first groups of Mergoyles and before you get to the Caromi scout and Caromi Wild, there was a Necro Boss (some sort of living tree can't remember the name), and I never saw it there before. I managed to get a few major runes, nothing of value, and the other items they dropped (the ettins) were different - at least the ratios were. Before, they occasionaly dropped runes and a lot of harened humps with a few 'ordinary' items (weapons, white blue and purple). Now it was mostly weapons, with a few hardened humps and very few runes.. the whole run felt altered, both in Nebo Terrace and N. Kryta. Could be wrong.. I hope I am.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nam Seill
Well, I went again yesterday... and some things felt different. First of all, in Nebo terrace, after you run past the first groups of Mergoyles and before you get to the Caromi scout and Caromi Wild, there was a Necro Boss (some sort of living tree can't remember the name), and I never saw it there before. I managed to get a few major runes, nothing of value, and the other items they dropped (the ettins) were different - at least the ratios were. Before, they occasionaly dropped runes and a lot of harened humps with a few 'ordinary' items (weapons, white blue and purple). Now it was mostly weapons, with a few hardened humps and very few runes.. the whole run felt altered, both in Nebo Terrace and N. Kryta. Could be wrong.. I hope I am. Well, that Oakheart boss has been there for ages. It's a random spawn, but I've sliced and diced him plenty of times.

The drops for the Ettins have definitely been altered. I decided to make some runs today after a few months of hiatus and I was severely dissapointed with my rewards... I'm used to getting Superiors and Uncommons like crazy out there, and I only got two uncommons the whole time today.

Guess we all find another spot to rune farm...

Nam Seill

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/R

Actually, I've been able to deny my suspicions; the drops were slightly altered - the ones that do not turn out to be runes. I did a few runs over the weekend (for me, one run is, take off from beetletun, cross the nebo terrace, farm ettins in N. Kryta, go to Scoundrel's Rise, immediately back, farm again on the way back to Nebo terrace). I was able to get 1-2 superior runes - per run. BTW, as faer said, that necro boss I mentioned (Tree of Solitude) is always on map, it's just that it's usually in a different position, sometimes in spawns on your way. Don't know about you guys, but I found this farming run very profitable during last weekend and am definitely going to keep it up for a while.

Guitary Boy

Guitary Boy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

England

FhS

W/

Thats strange...i always used to farm here and got 1 absorb and a couple of vigors over a month or 2 of farming, today i got 3 golds in nebo terrace, and one in north kryta province, 1 absorb, 1 vigour, 1 fire and 1 curses (superior) in 1 run...and a couple of golds and a sup death and another death in later runs. Whats happening here

Eragon Dragonslayer

Eragon Dragonslayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Right Behind You

The Raven Evolution [wvw]

A/

i am going to farm ettins for a bit and ill see what the drop rate is like..

King Kong

King Kong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

They still drop runes but not as much as they use to I remember once i made 75k+ from a half hour run, Got 2 sup's Vigor plus others! Most i ever made in one go lol But now they dont seem to drop as much...

MetalHawk

MetalHawk

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Croatia

Wepars on Rampage [WoR]

R/

I go farming ettins from time to time, tried it again before few days, & on 1 full run I ended up with net worth 15k of loot. My run usually goes like this: start from beetletun, kill giants in Nebo, proceed to N.Kryta, kill ettins there, go to scoundeler's rise (or something like that, 4am here Oo?, go back in N. Kryta, kill etins again, go to nebo, go back & do that as long I have inventory space. I got several gold runes, I think 2 were sup monk runes, 1-2 major vigor & few other not so expensive things. What I found strange is a gold sword with perfect mods on it. Sword wasn't max dmg tough, & when I tried to salvage it, I got... iron >.<

I run this build for farming:
Frenzy
Eviscerate {E}
Executioners
Penetrating
Sprint
Dolyak Signet
Watch Yourself
Healing Signet

From equipment I use crimson carpace shield (stance), full glad armor, major vigor, sup absorb (it's cheap these days so...), & a 14^50 fiery axe of fortitude. I don't use superior runes, it would probably speed up the stuff to have sup axe mastery, but I'm lazy to get a new helmet.

Atributes:
Strength: 11
Axe Mastery: 13
Tactics: 10

fotovince

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Think We Need A Serious [Nerf]

W/

My build:

triple chop (elite)
disrupting chop
executioner's strike
healing signet
dolyak signet
sprint
balthazar's spirit
mending

attris:

healing prayers 8
strength: 10
tactics: 10
axe mastery: 10

1 thing use healing signet when you have dolyak on.

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

I never farmed much but tried this a few times with an axe build in the last couple of days - and I have to say the rune drop is kinda crazy.

I've gotten two sup. vigor and one sup. absorbtion

A LOT of major runes, but none of them are worth salvaging still it's weird they drop that much - for me the drop ratio has been something like 85% major - 10% superior - 5% minor.

From testing a lot of stuff, I've come to feel this is the best build for the run (haven't bothered reading the whole thread so I'm sure someone else has a similar build)

Triple chop {E}
Cyclone Axe
Executioner's Strike
Furious Axe
Bonettis Defense
Vigorous Spirit
Balthazar's Spirit
Mending

Healing 8
Smiting 8
Strength 10 (9+1)
Axe Mastery 15 (12+3)
Tactics 2 (1+1)

Using:
Sundering Axe of Axe Mastery (15>50 while enchanted).
Shield -2 while enchanted, Health +45

If you want to do it while watching TV, just replace Balthazar's Spirit with Live Viscariously and move the smiting points to healing, it's too easy but also a little slower than the other way.

Also I found that using a high damage attack actually works faster for killing the Ettins than using an interrupt since they take extra damage while using the Healing Signet - on occasion I do 130-150 damage on them.

Except for the occational drop of the high value runes I don't think this is worth it though, the value of the drops aren't worth much and money drops are low as well - you'd get a lot more money from just killing stuff outside Maatu Keep and it's pretty much just as easy (except for the Wallows, stay clear of those).

Young Hero

Young Hero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mi

N/Mo

Ultra Low Energy Ownage

TheBigL481

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guild Wars UK

W/

might as well contribute to the mass number of builds already posted

attribs:
swordsmanship 12+1+3
strength 9+1
smiting 3
healing 9

skills:
Hundred Blades [E]
Sever Artery
Gash
Sun and Moon Slash
Sprint
Healing breeze
Vigorous Spirit
Balth's Spirit

Equipment:
max damage sword with any element mod (ettins take extra damage from elements, and without that extra damage, the kill time of this build would be reduced)
45/2 enchant shield
Glads Armor (my armor of choice, but im sure others would work too)
How to Use:
As you leave Beetletun, cast balths and vigorous. sprint before you hit the mergoyles, just to save some time, and hopefully by the time you meet the first 2 avicara, it will be recharged. cast breeze then vigorous, then make contact with the avicara. breeze negates phantasm (7 regen to 5 degen). cast vigorous again then sprint past the second 2 avicara.
you will now be at the ettins. if you take on 5 or less, breeze is not necessary. just make sure balths is on during every encounter, as well as vigorous spirit.
to kill the ettins, and maintain health, in the best way possible, try to bunch up the ettins shoulder to shoulder, making hundred blades more effective (hits target and foes adjacent to target, not foes adjacent to you, unlike triple chop/cyclone axe.

just cycle the attack skills, keeping ettins shoulder to shoulder as much as possible. when fighting more than 5, you will be taking a lot of hits, enought to keep up breeze easily (as well as vigorous of course). after defeating the nebo terrace ones, head into NKP and get the ones there too. map back to town and start from fresh

why i posted this:
i've tryed a lot of the builds in this topic and none are as effective at easily staying alive, killing ettins very quickly, always maintaining lots of energy, and getting from beetletun, to nebo terrace, to NKP. Some of the builds people are posting are far too complicated, using skills like dolyak and watch yourself, which arn't necessary, because warriors take little damage from ettins anyway, and vigorous + hundred blades can keep your hp at maximum without issue.

hope some of you try it and realise how basic, yet easy it is to use.

Young Hero

Young Hero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mi

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBigL481
might as well contribute to the mass number of builds already posted

attribs:
swordsmanship 12+1+3
strength 9+1
smiting 3
healing 9

skills:
Hundred Blades [E]
Sever Artery
Gash
Sun and Moon Slash
Sprint
Healing breeze
Vigorous Spirit
Balth's Spirit

Equipment:
max damage sword with any element mod (ettins take extra damage from elements, and without that extra damage, the kill time of this build would be reduced)
45/2 enchant shield
Glads Armor (my armor of choice, but im sure others would work too)
How to Use:
As you leave Beetletun, cast balths and vigorous. sprint before you hit the mergoyles, just to save some time, and hopefully by the time you meet the first 2 avicara, it will be recharged. cast breeze then vigorous, then make contact with the avicara. breeze negates phantasm (7 regen to 5 degen). cast vigorous again then sprint past the second 2 avicara.
you will now be at the ettins. if you take on 5 or less, breeze is not necessary. just make sure balths is on during every encounter, as well as vigorous spirit.
to kill the ettins, and maintain health, in the best way possible, try to bunch up the ettins shoulder to shoulder, making hundred blades more effective (hits target and foes adjacent to target, not foes adjacent to you, unlike triple chop/cyclone axe.

just cycle the attack skills, keeping ettins shoulder to shoulder as much as possible. when fighting more than 5, you will be taking a lot of hits, enought to keep up breeze easily (as well as vigorous of course). after defeating the nebo terrace ones, head into NKP and get the ones there too. map back to town and start from fresh

why i posted this:
i've tryed a lot of the builds in this topic and none are as effective at easily staying alive, killing ettins very quickly, always maintaining lots of energy, and getting from beetletun, to nebo terrace, to NKP. Some of the builds people are posting are far too complicated, using skills like dolyak and watch yourself, which arn't necessary, because warriors take little damage from ettins anyway, and vigorous + hundred blades can keep your hp at maximum without issue.

hope some of you try it and realise how basic, yet easy it is to use. Meet me in Beetletun, I'll be on my second Ettin by the time you're Hundred Blades recharges
IGN- Bael Beserker

not so newb

not so newb

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skuld
Is charge essential? My warrior hasn't done THK yet, i've concentrated on getting my monk ele and currently ranger through it

Can i use sprint?

EDIT read the note Yes actually I think sprint would be better

masteroflife

masteroflife

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Is this even profitable anymore? I thought ettin was nerfed to death.

vinegrower

vinegrower

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Song of the Forsaken

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by not so newb
Yes actually I think sprint would be better
you do realize that the post that you quoted is 9 months old right? I'm sure he has found an answer by now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by masteroflife
Is this even profitable anymore? I thought ettin was nerfed to death. The ettins wern't really nerfed, but rune prices are just so low right now that it isn't worth while. There are many better places with better returns that also provide more xp.