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Darkest Dawn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Ohio, USA

W/Mo

04 May 2006 at 20:27 - 121

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Originally Posted by Daithi the wolf

Also i think that warriors in the game look to much alike.Wearing different armour of different colours is cool,but many still have the same faces and hair.

Agreed. I think we could kill off a lot of the grumbling simply by adding more options on build/features on the existing models of humans.

Some warriors could be hulks like Conan, while others are smaller and more compact(almost dwarflike). height, skin, facial etc... are a good start( we could use more!), but different muscle build options are a good idea as well, IMHO.

More variety in form and apperance is needed.

sinisters chaos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

ATLANTA

No Clue [emt]

W/R

04 May 2006 at 21:15 - 122

i would love to be a tengu

/signed lol

eudas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tx, USA

The Infinite Monkeys [TYPE]

W/

04 May 2006 at 21:24 - 123

this is not a race-and-class game. this is a class-based game. if you want drow rangers, play D&D. if you want to play a half-dragon zombie faerie sorceror, play D&D. If you want to play an anthropomorphic catgirl, go play S.P.A.N.C. or watch some anime.

this game is more like M:tG than it is D&D.

i feel stupider having had to even answer this question. the answer should be obvious.

eudas

KvanCetre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Madison Scouts

E/Mo

04 May 2006 at 21:37 - 124

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Originally Posted by Chaz_Fox

still, it would expand on the game for different points of view, like how the tengu somewhat disdain humans and how the kitsune help humans (again referring to Magic The Gathering kitsune). In fact, there could be a whole new two sided war between the two races for another canthan (or possibly a brand new region?) expansion, making for three playable races in the set: Kitsune, Tengu and Humans (who must pick a side between the two).

OR we could have two-sided war going on between two factions... lets call them the Luxon and the Kurzick...

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Originally Posted by eudas

this is not a race-and-class game. this is a class-based game. if you want drow rangers, play D&D. if you want to play a half-dragon zombie faerie sorceror, play D&D. If you want to play an anthropomorphic catgirl, go play S.P.A.N.C. or watch some anime.

this game is more like M:tG than it is D&D.

i feel stupider having had to even answer this question. the answer should be obvious.

eudas

Quoted for Truth

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Originally Posted by rollntider

I think dwarves and elves would be a nice option.

...What elves?

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Originally Posted by Chaz_Fox

GTFO. sorry if i'm rude to you but we should all have a chance. so just GTFO.

I want to play as a little girl to satisfy my pedo urges! I should have the same chance as the rest of you! Please, lets have a valid argument now.

Gmr Leon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

04 May 2006 at 21:53 - 125

Elves-no,can we leave it at that? Also,as we have already seen Anet does a pretty good job coming up with their own original races. (Tengu,the Forgotten,Mursaat,etc.) So let's leave the races and species to them and see how it goes without our intervention on the concept.

adarby

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

LMT

W/R

04 May 2006 at 22:35 - 126

Wait a minute? Don't we have multiple different races we can play already? We have many different options for skin colors, facial features, and hair colors. So we really do have different races we are able to make our characters. I think ANet has given us races, but what people are looking for is different species of player models. Of course I am sure everyone knows this.

***Note the above was meant to be harmless sarcasm, I just seen an opportunity and ran with it.***

As for the idea this thread is based upon, I do not think we really can complain about what we do have. Such as free online play. Adding new species of player characters would take a lot of work, such as new armor, weapons, focii, and animations. Not to mention all of the changes ANet makes has to be approved by NCSoft. I'm sure NCSoft has "bigger fish to fry" so to speak, with their games they are charging monthly fees for. While I would not personally object to new playable species, I would see new species best implemented as a purely cosmetic feature. Ideally, what I would rather see in lieu of new species, is better character customization, such as body size (i.e. fat, skinny, in-between), and eye colors. I would also like to see something along the lines of an RGB slider for customized colors, even after character creation (I hate the current, and confusing dye system). Finally, I would like to be able to change my character's features in-game (the same hair style gets old after a while).

Surely some of my proposed alternatives will never happen. However, the dreams and desires are always going to be there by more people than just myself. Everything I have mentioned here is purely my own personal opinion, and I do value constructive criticism.

sinisters chaos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

ATLANTA

No Clue [emt]

W/R

04 May 2006 at 22:38 - 127

srry adarby, but the characteristic options,,, are so bad..

i cant tell faced from otehr faces unless ilook close... also, races are never a bad thing..

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

04 May 2006 at 23:32 - 128

Anet hinted that races could come down the road but I doubt it will be with Campaign 3.

benmanhaha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

nowhere!!!

N/Mo

04 May 2006 at 23:47 - 129

Ok, I have an idea. I too would like to see some new races, but when they say that it would be tough to implement, I have to agree. Anet would have to write a new backstory for each new race, and the artistic stuff would be pretty tough.

Thus, my idea. What if we had more advanced character creation, like adarby said, we need better customization. We all know that these new races couldn't possibly have new racial bonuses, that would un-balance the game. Therefore, the changes would be purely cosmetic. Instead of creating new races, you could just edit you human character with the character editor so that it looks like an elf, or dwarf, or half-dragon kitsune pig-man thing. It would stop alot of the gripe when it comes to existing character, and allow people to create there own "races." I also like the idea of a RGB slider, so we could go crazy and make like hot pink characters.

Discuss.

$hade.

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

[FiRM[]

R/

05 May 2006 at 00:05 - 130

I'm happy with the way things are and I don't want GW turning into WoW 0_o

Fargin Scotchsman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Noobs Of Steel

05 May 2006 at 01:13 - 131

i agree, anet did a good job comin upo wit they own race ideas. if they gunna make new playable races, they shudn't be the generic races that are in EVERY SINGLE OTHER RPG. ex. elves are in: every LotR game, WoW, morrowind, oblivion, D&D, baldurs gate, warhammer (yes, there is a warhammer rpg comin out) just to name a few. think about it like starwars, he drew up completely new ideas, so if anet gunna make more, let them be creative, and hopefully the wont f**k it up........

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

05 May 2006 at 02:29 - 132

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Originally Posted by Fargin Scotchsman

think about it like starwars, he drew up completely new ideas, so if anet gunna make more, let them be creative, and hopefully the wont f**k it up........

Agree. No same old generic races. It will be repeatitive if they create Tolkien races as playable

Danica Kalmar

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Austria

05 May 2006 at 06:49 - 133

Tengus, they nearly already started a backstory with factions for them.

No boni/mal for other races, it would just screw up gamebalance and/or create the, warrior must be a dwarf, thingie

Chilly Ress

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kinetic Fusion [kF]

Me/

05 May 2006 at 07:01 - 134

new races, meh, leave me my GW and teh way it is, and make that to go, to get away from these new races fans GAH!

Eden2k5

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

05 May 2006 at 08:00 - 135

Based on interviews and from what i've heard there will probably be another race within the next two chapters. Probably nothing that exist now though, something new.

I think (and hope) that a Bard like profession will be in the next chapter, as some people have seen concept art of floating around.

I remember hearing Jeff Strain use "Lizardmen" as an example.

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

05 May 2006 at 08:14 - 136

nn no new races .. this is just fine as it is

if u wanna see groups full of tons of weird creatures .. go buy WoW

KvanCetre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Madison Scouts

E/Mo

05 May 2006 at 16:14 - 137

I would like to point your attention to another great game... Diablo/Diablo 2(lets include LoD)

In Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction, there were 7 classes and only one race. Heck, you didn't even get to pick your character's gender.

But you know what? It was still a lot of fun.

Arkyn sei

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

UK

Blood on the worlds hands

N/Mo

05 May 2006 at 17:14 - 138

I reckon the reason you can't play other races is because it would suck TBH

xBakox

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

[JF] Just Friends, [NOT] Nomads of Turmoil

05 May 2006 at 19:03 - 139

Ok, IMO races are a great idea. Theyve already got plenty of different races, they just are playable, so theres no reason you shouldnt be able to play as some of them.

To impliment them: I think they should make a chapter that sort of goes back to every past chapter and adds areas to them and high level content. If they would do this, with say... Chap. 4, then you could add races there.

Every continent gets humans of course. For the Tyrian race, it should be dwarves IMO. They start in pre-sear just as humans, and their backstory would be like this: You and a bunch of other dwarves and dwarven ambassadors came to Ascalon to trade and establish better relations with these human neighbors, as wlel as to get help vs the Stone Summit. Its a very simple idea and all they would have to change is the first cutscene. Dwarves would only be able to start as a Tyrian character (so you wouldnt be able to start a Dwarven Assassin in Cantha, as that would be quite silly).

For Cantha, the race could be Tengu. Backstory: The recent peace between the Tengu and Canthan Empire has given cause to the Shing Jea Monastery to allow the training of the Tengu in their ways of fighting. The Luxons/Kurzicks allow you to fight for them (despite their prejudices) because you hate the other faction as much as they do. And again, you couldnt start a Tengu in Ascalon, even if you have both chapters.

Adding these races would give you a reason to go back and do all the old content, and Im sure in the future it would help sell the old games as well. Even though they can only start in certain chapters, they can carry on to others once they reach the traveling point (LA or The Marketplace).

Races would be purely aestictic btw.

What do you think?

eudas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tx, USA

The Infinite Monkeys [TYPE]

W/

05 May 2006 at 19:44 - 140

I think the idea is a great big pile of crap.
(Hey, you asked what I thought about it...)

eudas

Fargin Scotchsman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Noobs Of Steel

05 May 2006 at 23:03 - 141

i really wudnt care if the made more, or if they left it the same. im more woried about the game mechanics/balancing/drops/skills/ etc. theres enough problems with that alone, and personally, id rather see them fixed before anythin mo is released.............

ShadowStorm

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Take me where I cannot stand.

The Better Part of Valor

W/N

06 May 2006 at 00:54 - 142

I don't know if someone has already said this or not, but they made an Avicara Henchman for Factions... Why not make Avicara a playable race?

I'd love to play an Avicara Warrior.

xBakox

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

[JF] Just Friends, [NOT] Nomads of Turmoil

06 May 2006 at 02:13 - 143

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I think the idea is a great big pile of crap.
(Hey, you asked what I thought about it...)

eudas

Yeah I know I asked your opinion, but maybe I should explain that I'm looking for feedback such as *why* it is crap, and not a flame. Seems some people are too stupid to assume this, and so flame instead.

So why do you think its crap? Is it just because you dont like races? Please expand. IMO races dont hurt anything but makes there less clones in a game with very little customization. It wouldnt un-balance anything, just give a reason to replay the game. And hey, if you dont wanna play as another race, you dont have to play as them.

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

06 May 2006 at 02:15 - 144

i think what you mean is new species We did get a new race, that is an Asian race.

I to would like to play as a different species

penguo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Abaddons Bane

N/

06 May 2006 at 02:15 - 145

It would be cool to have more different options but so far it is not needed, anet can spend there time on gameplay and more exciting content, or set up a team for jsut this, but it's not at the top of my list.

Hunter Sharparrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Jeepers Kreepers

R/Mo

07 May 2006 at 00:34 - 146

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So you could not come up with an intelligent thought to counter my idea so you decided to spout some incoherent psycobabel?

Just don't bother to post anything any more after that hypocritical comment. You want an intelligent reply? Bend over and I'll show you one.

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why do people keep asking anet to charge us 10 bucks here and 10 bucks there? go play a MMORPG that charges monthly.

I didn't ask anet to charge 10 bucks for access to different races at all.

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It wouldn't surprise me if anet introduced new races but at a required a cost. Kinda like being able to pay 10 bucks for two new character slots.

Paying 10 bucks for two new character slots is something they are doing now. With anet getting money out of us in such a way I merely said it would not surprise me if they offered new playable races but at a cost. It's not enough to know how to read you have to know the meanings of the individual words and what is actually being said with the words that were used.

Lepton CFd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Pantheon of Shadows [dei]

Mo/Me

07 May 2006 at 01:01 - 147

Perhaps in the next few Chapters, the new Professions will be new races. Don't expect any new race option though--that would be utterly ridiculous.

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

07 May 2006 at 14:05 - 148

Again, wait and see for futur information for the next Chapter

Magnus_1

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/Me

07 May 2006 at 21:35 - 149

I think if ANet decided to introduce a new race it would be something original. So far, GW has been very fresh and has bucked the traditions of the fantasy genre. If the dev team decided that adding a new race was the way to go then I doubt that we would see a race that looks like it was taken from a D&D manual.

On the other hand, I'm fine with playing as a human. I can't wait to see what new classes are in store for us in Chapter 3.

EDIT: @ShadowStorm - I agree. When I first saw the Tengu Hench I got all excited and started thinking that maybe Tengu would be a new playable race (like in Chapter 3) and the hench was a teaser for it or something. I think it would be a cool idea, even if they just did Tengu as a cosmetic option (like have the same abilities and classes as humans).

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

E/Me

07 May 2006 at 21:53 - 150

I've been thinking about this, and it would actually work fairly well if they limited it to existing (even existing within future chapters) species.

That leaves us with Tengu, Charr, and Dwarves as playable. I don't see Charr working out because they're basically genocidal in their interactions with humans. The Deldrimor Dwarves and the Angchu Tengu are pretty cool guys. They've got all the same skills and stuff and they're good buddies with (some) humans. So maybe.

But special bonuses? Absolutely not. After all, it's not like they have any now.

Oh, and no elves. I will personally hunt down and kill the person responsible if elves are put into Guild Wars. So far ANet has crafted a fairly unique gameworld. If they shoehorn elves into it, I'm gonna scream. Because the vast majority of elves in fantasy games are 1) blatant Tolkein ripoffs and 2) almost naked.

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

07 May 2006 at 22:30 - 151

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Originally Posted by Cjlr

Because the vast majority of elves in fantasy games are 1) blatant Tolkein ripoffs and 2) almost naked.

As opposed to the elementalist and mesmer?

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

E/Me

07 May 2006 at 23:20 - 152

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Originally Posted by Sekkira

As opposed to the elementalist and mesmer?

Well, at least they aren't Tolkein ripoffs. Plus, they aren't given ears and some arbitrary bonuses just to be "different".

As for mostly naked... That is true. At least it's not Lineage II.