NEWS FLASH! Monks on strike at Thunderhead Keep

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Well Iowerth while I realize that this game is about cooperative play I think they took that too far. I think the cooperative aspect should end with PvP simply because all it really does is force people to wait, sometimes for half an hour or more, just trying to put together a group and god forbid you're one of those classes that doesnt get any PvE respect, like Mesmers, because no group will pick you up. On paper it's a wonderful idea, much like Communism, but in practice it makes the game move far too slowly for people like me. I long for the days of Diablo 2 where you could form a party, if you wanted to, but it was entirely possible to solo the entire game without relying on any outside help. If they want to "reward skill instead of hours played" like they claim to then let me take my skills and go play instead of having to rely on the skills of others or of henchmen. If I wanted to have to deal with unorganized morons I'd work seven days a week. As it is I deal with that enough at my job. When I come home I want to play my game without having to rely on a bunch of intellectually challenged adventurers that may or may not be able to form some semblance of cohesion, at least long enough to make it through a mission. As it is more often than not the groups I end up with usually can't make it more than half way through before it all falls apart. The experienced players get fed up with the idiots that won't take direction and either ditch or, out of good pity I suspect, try to slog on with the dead weight in tow and despite their best efforts it always ends in disaster. The truth is true cooperative spirit in this game is rare and ANet needs to realize that. Most people join a group out of herd mentality for survival. The idea is strength in numbers, or at the very least the idea of." They can't kill me while they are killing him." This is especially true for missions that can be run through. It sucks that people don't want to play the way that the game designers envisioned the game working but at the same time they have a responsibility to their consumer base to make the games that we want to play. I know I'm not the only one that wishes for more soloable content and not having to rely on other people for support.

Saider maul

Saider maul

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Baltimore, Maryland

I agree. if each characters build is balanced so it needs less healing from the monks but keeps its dmg per second rate high the need for monk is minimal. plus the monk can 55 so when a tank makes 2k a monk makes 9k in same time.
Its all about the balance. dont rely on the monk to keep you alive. and be smart with agro. i play as both and die more from to much agro from a rookie tank.

Phrozenflame

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Yo guys, take it on a light note...I Think apart from some, most are there for the sake of it...

Its nice to see an unofficial events...just saw nothing much going on in Europe...it just shows the European Community is better ^^ :P

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Honestly I'm prone to agree. Only in America would this kind of stupid and frivolous action take place. I mean just look at our court system...if some idiot can sue because his coffee was hot,god forbid that coffee should be hot, and win then it should come as no suprise that the American players should also resort to the same stupid frivolous attention getting ploys in a fantasy game setting. Honestly I'm thinking of changing my game over to European servers even if it means starting from scratch just to get away from this nonsense.

EDIT: Oh and if you have any doubt that Americans are amongst the worst people for frivolous action then take a look at that one poor fellow, whose name escapes me, that was detained and tortured and repeatedly interrogated over the course of three months by our CIA. He is suing, not for millions of dollars, but for 5000 dollars. This guy is European and I gurantee you every American who read this is thinking." Wow he could have gotten paid for all that and never had to work again."

Capitan Del Queso

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Pacific Time Zone

Pheonix Ascension

Oh, well isn't this nice. Monks on strike because not enough people blow sunshine up their arses for existing whenever they sign on? Yes, there are a lot of bad non-healing people, but there are also a lot of bad monks. Monks that are just as nasty, bossy, and abusive as some non-monks. Monks that run away and let the party die and wait for a nice drop to become up for grabs before rezzing the party (or just leaving.) Monks that are BAD AT THEIR JOB and have no energy management, don't ping their energy when it's low, then assume it must be the warrior's fault when things go bad. Monks that lie about being an invincimonk because they want to let you die and go solo-farming. Monks that fail to realize that enemies will change aggro in a fight and go after people with lower armor and more death penalty, and don't try to shrug the enemies back onto a tougher character who is most likely busy fighting something because it's their job. I am by no means saying that all or most monks are like this because this is of course not true. I just want to make the point that bad people come in all flavors and classes.

I myself used to have a game-beating pve healing slave monk, and i've seen all sorts of great people and all sorts of horrible people of all classes in pugs. Being prejudiced against a class in general is ridiculous and myopic. One is better off getting in a good guild where they will have plenty of guildies willing to help you with whatever. If you really need to take pick-up members, why not have a little chat with them and ask them what skills they plan to use, instead of assuming all warriors are mending, frenzy, and heal sig using charging morons? All you need to do is communicate with the pick-up people and talk about waiting for regen when you ping low energy, and if you're in an area in which you need to be really careful and take it slow. It's so easy to assume w/mos are meding-using idiots, but there are MANY viable uses for sub monk to a war that have nothing to do with mending.

You know, monks themselves are not actually necessary if all the other classes take decent self-healing provisions and sub monk stuff as necessary, as the case may be. Even though they are incredibly stupid and inept (and devoid of anti-cond), there are always hench monks. However, the whole reason for having a healing class and fighting classes is so that people can focus on what they're best at instead of having to be constantly preoccupied with keeping themselves alive.

Yes, a lot of bad people do bad things to monks (I know, I have experienced plenty of this), but bad people playing monks have done plenty of bad things to non-monks as well. Monks striking is a horribly selfish thing to do. Find a nice guild with good, sensible people to play with, or seek out some reasonable, decent pick-up people. (YES, believe it or not, there ARE some decent, kind people out there among the jerks. I have actually had as many really great PUGs as I have had really bad PUGs)

Fortunately for me, the monks in my guild are sensible, good people that know the guild's non-monks are also sensible people that they can trust in combat, and won't take part in this strike.

koneko

Site Contributor

Join Date: Sep 2005

38??16′ N 140??52′ E

Mo/Me

I caught part of what Gaile said in THK. No screenie, since I still have yet to dig out Photoshop D:

Quote:
Gaile Gray: Ok, so I was just checking on the items, and you know how it goes, right?
Gaile Gray: I mean, if there's something broken, we'll do our est to fix it.
Gaile Gray: I just heard someone say -- not a commitment but a desire -- that we'll work on the boots issue as we are able.
Gaile Gray: As for the helm, we cannot have imbalances in place indefinitely, so I would anticipate a balancing someday.
:|

Its Monktastic

Its Monktastic

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Untouchable Heroes. PM me to join.

Mo/W

btw, you dont have to start from scratch when you transfer countries. I switched my 55monk to europe for a while to get my ectos, then switched back. no restarting.

xiv

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

sins will never vanish [NoiR]

Mo/Me

LOL i nvrhave this problem i just grab a few monks from guild so bleh who cares.

Lex Talionis

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

in the real world away from virtual idiots

Wtf Is Guildwars [Duno]

LOL ppl with monks had nothing better to do except stand around and take space? MWHAHAHAA go farm/pvp and have some fun. i was there laughing my ass off, if its still goin on well then its just sad. just remember: ITS ONLY A GAME. if ppl complain tell them to call the wahmbulance. its a free service that sends ppl to your house (dressed as EMTs) who bring boxes of tissues, cookies + juice to those of you who complain about every little thing. Followed by a hug WAAAHAHAHAA

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Its Monktastic
btw, you dont have to start from scratch when you transfer countries. I switched my 55monk to europe for a while to get my ectos, then switched back. no restarting.

Thank god because honestly the more I play on American servers the more disgusted I get. Not only are second party item buyers becoming rampant there and unbalancing the game but the quality of players is abyssmal. I've noticed that Europe tends to keep favor more than America and I attribute this to a better overall cooperative spirit to the European community as a whole. When it comes down to America gaining favor usually it's just a few guilds responsible with Europe I see a different guild or team come up almost every time. That says something to me. I realize I might get some flak for "abandoning" the American servers but in all truth the American community abandoned players like me when they got cheap and lazy.

Sai of Winter

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

Lol, I wish I was there to witness the insanity. Not on my Monk, but on a different character.



And Anet was involve too! xD

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Lazarus, I bet you never thought this would turn out as big as it did, hehe.

- Lugh Kavanagh

AeroLion

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

I want to really thank Gaile and Izzy for even responding in game because that makes things so much more fun even if nothing substantial happens. I remember when players went on a strike on SWG and some people were sent into space just because. I'm glad that the developers also find ways to have fun and also choose to interact with their customers.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

they should also do it in Heroes Ascent American District 1....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light
We need the big boys at MATH to take out the 8 leaders of the Monks.

MATH we need your help!!!
lol, man. :P

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Both sides of this strike are taking it the wrong way.

The main reason I would see any support class go on strike is a gorss amount of uneducated people running around whining about how they died and how they let it happen.

I was seriously going to make a "back to basic's" thread, which would enclued basic's of how: a group should work, and why groups who dont even semi-self support usally fail they tend to rely on the monk class to take the slack.
but I'll wait a few day's

I'm sure all the "I can do it with henchies" use to some extent a build that helps the whole group or supports itself(AR/healing/evading ect).

but with both sides of this protest they fail to see the point...
Most are idlers, bandwagon jummpers, and trolls
I have yet to travel to europes districs and see how they work together.

Studio Ghibli

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

I'm sad.

I missed Gaile Gray and other Anet staff.

In any case, to explain, one has to take the monk protest with a grain of salt. As the poster above me pointed out, a good number of the people there are idlers, bandwagoners, and trolls--but this still does not discount the underlying frustration of being a monk. It's not even really an issue of respect. Monks simply want to be able to do their job without other people making that job harder for them.

When people say they want more respect on their monks, they simply want people to recognize, hey, the monk probably didn't cause your death. You or some other idiot caused your death. I don't want respect. I don't want praise. I don't want a pedestal or songs sung in my name.

I just want -you- to be more self-aware about what you're doing and how that effects the rest of the party.

That's about it.

People need to enjoy the strike. I doubt any monk there is screaming daggers. I'm worried about some of the counter-protests, though.

In the end, it's simply an awareness issue. When you're on your w/, your e/, or whatever, take into account your location, what you're doing in a fight, skills used, et cetera.

A pet peeve of mine? When I'm monking, if a caster accidentally draws aggro, I'll drop a prot spirit on them (if it's waranted) to minimize damage, or a shielding hands--something to keep them alive. What do they do?

They run, and the aggro shifts, either to me or some other squishy target.

So, what's happened at this point?

I've wasted anywhere from five to fifteen energy and quite possibly a very effective prot spell because you ran.

This isn't me complaining, though. This is an example. I make sure to tell the people in my party what's up though so, so it all works out in the end. :d

Hell, that's about it. Just learn how to manage aggro.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

While I admire the developer's quick response and the fact that they are so hands on with the game the bottom line is they shouldn't have had to come on at all. They shouldn't have had to get involved with this stupidity. That is one thing I can say about ANet and the Guild Wars staff in particular. They have got to be one of the best with customer service and player attention in the industry. Still I would also like to point out that this situation could end up harming that great record as well. Honestly they were cool a bout it this time but if they continuely have to get online to handle BS like this then the end result is going to be a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation where they will end up having too many of these petty situations on their hands to get to the important stuff, or they will have to set up a strict prioritization routine in order to distinguish issues of merit versus this pathetic attention getting ploy. Anytime you have to institue a protocol then you automatically add to the time required to handle any given situation simply because you have to use the protocol to assess the situation which in turn takes time. I'm glad everyone was amused by this but honestly I think this whole debacle just cheapened the entire game. If this sort of crap continues I'm honestly thinking about going up to Gamestop and seeing if I can get my money back on my Factions pre order because if this sort of BS is the trend now then I can only imagine it's going to get worse when the new expansion hits.

EDIT: For the record for every person who voices an opinion like mine there are several hundred others who share that opinion but are too lazy or strapped for time to voice it. That should be taken into account. While many of you may say" Why should ANet care about one person not buying the new software? " Well because odds are it won't be just me who is fed up to the point of boycott.

Konrow

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

meh i think those monks should just suck it up and find good parties that do not yell at them. Also many warriors actually care about the other party members and try to aggro as well as possible. I have a warrior and a monk myself so i know both sides. The mobs sometime aggro in weird ways so don't always blame the wars, for monks don't go blaming them for everything as it does get annoying but still i'ma monk and i know many monks who don't go on strikes because thats just silly

Mellia Darkstar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Empire Of the Underworld

E/Mo

Let's see what happend today that didnt affect anyone else's gameplay :
Can't get in group wiht all the spamming
Monks bitching when being invited when you didnt know if he was on strike or not
Monks joining fight to rage quit
Monks joining to quit during mission
Alot of bad language, rude bahavior, screaming, yelling and agains spamming
Monks, at one point eles, asking money to join a party.

Why I don't think this strike was the best idea to get a message sent out? hmm Do i really need to explain? All this had happened today and we all know why it happened.

Johnny Paycheck

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Pittsburgh, PA

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Str0b0
While I admire the developer's quick response and the fact that they are so hands on with the game the bottom line is they shouldn't have had to come on at all. They shouldn't have had to get involved with this stupidity.

Honestly they were cool a bout it this time but if they continuely have to get online to handle BS like this then the end result is going to be a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation where they will end up having too many of these petty situations on their hands to get to the important stuff, or they will have to set up a strict prioritization routine in order to distinguish issues of merit versus this pathetic attention getting ploy.

Anytime you have to institue a protocol then you automatically add to the time required to handle any given situation simply because you have to use the protocol to assess the situation which in turn takes time.
what on earth are you talking about? Anet had to 'handle' the situation? enacting protocol? you are just making things up. you are talking as if accounts got banned, this activity was admonished, or people were disciplined. nothing like that happened today at all...

Studio Ghibli

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

Strobo,

I think Anet's realized the light-heartedness of this situation. Their involvement in no way implies they were trying to "minimize" or "contain" the "issue."

I, along with a number of other people, have been having a good laugh about this all day. I -really- doubt anyone on the monk side is seriously trying to change the world, let alone enforce some change on the game.

Have a good time? Sure.

Spread a little awareness? Hopefully.

Throw up red flags at Anet where they had to loose the dogs?

I doubt it.

Cause a few laughs at Anet?

Probably!

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Str0b0
While I admire the developer's quick response and the fact that they are so hands on with the game the bottom line is they shouldn't have had to come on at all. They shouldn't have had to get involved with this stupidity. That is one thing I can say about ANet and the Guild Wars staff in particular. They have got to be one of the best with customer service and player attention in the industry. Still I would also like to point out that this situation could end up harming that great record as well. Honestly they were cool a bout it this time but if they continuely have to get online to handle BS like this then the end result is going to be a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation where they will end up having too many of these petty situations on their hands to get to the important stuff, or they will have to set up a strict prioritization routine in order to distinguish issues of merit versus this pathetic attention getting ploy. Anytime you have to institue a protocol then you automatically add to the time required to handle any given situation simply because you have to use the protocol to assess the situation which in turn takes time. I'm glad everyone was amused by this but honestly I think this whole debacle just cheapened the entire game. If this sort of crap continues I'm honestly thinking about going up to Gamestop and seeing if I can get my money back on my Factions pre order because if this sort of BS is the trend now then I can only imagine it's going to get worse when the new expansion hits.
I certainly don't agree with you. By do what they did they have recognised a valid concern in the general gaming community. They have given the hint that maybe some players will want to rethink their strategy. Of course I think the main offenders probably missed the not so subtle hint, but nonetheless, I think people will become a little more aware of the fact that monk abuse is a problem in game. Furthermore they seemed to suggest that quitting was completely a feasible, and LOGICAL, option. I have never done it before (yes threatened but never gone through with it) because I always feel guilty, especially if there is only ONE bad egg in the group. Quitting will hopefully show people that monks are serious about not putting up with the BS that we have had to put up with for a very long time.
This has been a VALID problem for a VERY LONG time. And Anet's actions have plenty of good, and no harm.

LOL - I'm in agreement with TPAM - Anet has no doubt had a very good laugh about this.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

In all honesty, the devs showing up only soothed the masses. As soon as they left or went afk, the same stuff that's been going on all day, started again.

Gaile attempted to divert attention to Lion's Arch, but that was overwhelmed quickly.

Gaile typed out a few lines for Warriors to not rush ahead, but it should have been applied to everyone.

Oh well, we did get some more info on Factions, so I do not complain.

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellia Darkstar
Let's see what happend today that didnt affect anyone else's gameplay :
Can't get in group wiht all the spamming
Monks bitching when being invited when you didnt know if he was on strike or not
Monks joining fight to rage quit
Monks joining to quit during mission
Alot of bad language, rude bahavior, screaming, yelling and agains spamming
Monks, at one point eles, asking money to join a party.

Why I don't think this strike was the best idea to get a message sent out? hmm Do i really need to explain? All this had happened today and we all know why it happened.
bandwagon jumpers and extremists... alot of people jump on opertuinities to gain wealth by explioting others, and then theres the extreme end of this protest where some guy becomes a dick with no purpose other than to hurt others. probly for pleasure...

We dont need generalzations of all Mo/--'s

but indeed not everyone wants to be civilized in an internet game community.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Whether ANet is taking this situation seriously or not I for one find it disgusting. In fact I find several areas of this game underpoliced by the developers. The fact of the matter is the person in charge of balance in the game should be more concerned about second party item sales than popping in to "have a few laughs" with a group of idiot monk players. God knows even BNet punished people for this sort of infraction with account banning and then the ever popular Ruststorm to get rid of duped items and other illegal goodies. I'd be happier if they took a more aggressive stance against the sort of crap that cheapens the game instead of laughing it up. Why should I continue to pay their salaries with my consumer dollars if they aren't going to actually police their own virtual world with any sort of efficiency. Honestly it wouldn't be that difficultwhere gold is concerned. Items perhaps but gold would be easy. I'm assuming, like most online games these days, that all the information regarding individual characters and the accounts they are linked to is held in a database. That means that attributes associated with that character would have have their own fields within the database. Ok well if the field associated with the gold held on a particular character linked to a particular account suddenly jumps up by 500K or more then it's painfully obvious that they bought that gold from a second party site particularly if their fields regarding inventory , storage and equipment don't change. All it would take is a simple database query running at a regular interval, say every hour or so, so as not to take up too many server resources. While this wouldn't nab them all it would get most of them and it would help identify the accounts used by second party gold sellers and allow them to be banned. Items are a trickier situation and I suppose we'll just have to suffer through that.

EDIT: If Anet would give me one good reason why they are letting so much of this junk slide and not acting, just one good reason, I'd reconsider my stance but as it is now it seems to me that if they have enough time to come in and yuck it up with some stupid strike then they have enough time to do some real work on the balance of the game.

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

My guildmate (Eremis Nightfall) cracked me up when he told me about a new skill they should make for monks. He said it should be called 'Monk Frenzy' when used it will make all nearby monks stand around uselessly feeling unapreciated.

Wessels

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Boyz from the Dwarf

Mo/N

Quote:
I certainly don't agree with you. By do what they did they have recognised a valid concern in the general gaming community. They have given the hint that maybe some players will want to rethink their strategy. Of course I think the main offenders probably missed the not so subtle hint, but nonetheless, I think people will become a little more aware of the fact that monk abuse is a problem in game. Furthermore they seemed to suggest that quitting was completely a feasible, and LOGICAL, option. I have never done it before (yes threatened but never gone through with it) because I always feel guilty, especially if there is only ONE bad egg in the group. Quitting will hopefully show people that monks are serious about not putting up with the BS that we have had to put up with for a very long time.
This has been a VALID problem for a VERY LONG time. And Anet's actions have plenty of good, and no harm.
Agreed . I wouldn't go as far as to go on strike or whatever , but it is annoying how many insults get thrown at the monk ( there are folks starting a monk actually deleting it after a while due to the amount of insults ). I doubt the same can be said for any other class . Having said that : I stopped doing any mission from desert onward with PUGs ( in part for the reason stated ) and do those with guildies only . One might say this is wrong , but playing a game is about having fun and getting abused and insulted constantly is not my idea of fun.

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

I got into d1 at around 2 pm PST[pretty easily], grouped with 7 wammos and took them to piken square. We then had tea and cookies, and I went on my monk-ish ways.

AeroLion

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Str0b0, you are exactly what is wrong with this game. Lighten the heck up. If Anet people want to take a break and come interact/fool around with people that play their game, then all the better. At least then you know that those in charge actually do enjoy Guild Wars since it *is* a game and the whole point of it, no matter what anyone says, is to have *fun!*

Lazarus

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by XvArchonvX
Lazarus, I bet you never thought this would turn out as big as it did, hehe.

- Lugh Kavanagh

As I said before, it's been the most fun I have ever had in this game. My monk was the first character I ever made for GW during the first week of the game, and I have played him for most of game time.

At first I thought this would only last a few hours and disapate once people had blown off some steam. I knew it had potential when it went past 3 PM EST though. A few of the monks that had been in there all day were still keeping things going so I took some time off from the picket line.

I came back just in time to see Isaiah (a fellow monk BTW). He said "It's not every day a group of people gather at a remote outpost and start screaming." I guess he is working really hard of the up coming rebalance and wanted to blow some steam too. Lord knows he has the right. He wanted to know our favorite monk skill and secondary class, then he organized some synced dancing and played follow the leader.

Of course through out the day I saw too many people get nasty about the whole deal. I say CHILL OUT! It's game, and if you are not having fun you are not playingit right.


Laz

Bodhisativa

Bodhisativa

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

Let's all remember a couple of basics here, we all love this game and although it snowballed out of sheer curosity, this isn't about classes, it's about respect. Our beloved community thrives on courtesy, and when discriminatory, hateful, derogotory, slanderous, or rude comments and behaviour enter into the game, we all suffer. I support this strike in all it's nonsense and absurdity merely because we all need to respect each other more both in game and out.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroLion
Str0b0, you are exactly what is wrong with this game. Lighten the heck up. If Anet people want to take a break and come interact/fool around with people that play their game, then all the better. At least then you know that those in charge actually do enjoy Guild Wars since it *is* a game and the whole point of it, no matter what anyone says, is to have *fun!*
Well that is certainly your opinion and you are entitled to it. I don't agree with you. In fact I think people like me are the only ones that hold true to the way the game is supposed to be played, without all the ridiculous BS and all the cheating and all the imbalance. It's people like me who defend the party monk when they are catching hell from some incautious warrior who drew entirely too much aggro down on themselves, at least until this whole fiasco. It's people like me that would love to just have fun if it weren't for everyone else out acting the fool. Now I'm all for the Arena Net people enjoying the fruits of their labor but don't come into the game in official capacity just go goof off. If those two reported to me trust me there would be some ass chewing involved if I found out they goofed off when they were supposed to be on the job. Trust me I'm not just ranting here. I've rattled off about twenty e-mails to various industry publications and to A Net themselves regarding the issues I've brought up here. While you may say myself and people like me are responsible for making the game unfun at least we have the backbone and the gumption to actually try to institute change through proper channels instead of staging some goofy in game strike or just pissing and moaning about it on a forum.

EDIT: Ok strike the A Net E-mail. They apparently want to make themselves difficult to get in touch with so guess what? I'm actually going to write snail mail. That's right snail mail.

SisterMercy

SisterMercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sisters of Mercy

Lighten up. It's all meant in good fun. And maybe the occasional "Mesmer foes = monks 'not doing their job'" and other things back & forth made people think a little, on occasion. It was also a good way to burn off frustration. I know one W/Mo and I were trading off jabs for a good while, letting off steam and both having a good time.

Quote:
Me: [Rambo W/Mo: "OMG, UR so n00b! *ping* *ping* *ping* 'Rambo W/Mo is dead!' *ping* *ping* *ping*"]

He: [Sob sob, look at Sister crying all the way to the bank!]

Me: [Rambo W/Mo: "I'm wielding a Big Stick of Thumping and a Handful of Poo! Leeeeeeeeeeerrroooooooyyy 4ever!!!!"]

He: [Yeah, I'll just draw a few mesmers on you and see how you like it.]
Don't worry, we were sending smilie whispers too. No feelings were harmed in the making of this exchange.

GW hasn't had an "event" for a little while. Okay, only a month and a half. But that's no reason why we can't have a little spontaneous whimsy.

Jenosavel

Jenosavel

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Jul 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

St0b0, I think you might be forgetting that as a community relations person, it's Gaile's job to be perusing the forums, randomly hopping in game, and generally making sure she knows what's happening in the player community. What happened today was the last thing from her goofing off.

It's no new thing for monks complain about abuse, especially in THK, so when it all finally culminated in today's little display (which we all should have seen coming, steam needed to be let off one way or another, no matter how seriously you take things) it would only make sense for her to respond to it. I really can't remember the last time we saw Izzy make an appearance like he did today, so you're going to have a real hard time convincing me that he has a problem of goofing off when he should be working.

ANet cares about their customers and their game so much that they have a dedicated section of personel to make in-game appearances. Try not to get up-in-arms when they show up in-game over even small disturbances. It's their job: what else would you have them do? Randomly jump into instances to make sure everyone's behaving and swing the old ban-stick?

Studio Ghibli

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

Strobo,

This is what you've said:

"You're allowed to have fun, though only the way I'm having fun."

Seriously. Lighten up.

What's your problem with THK?

Someone decided to be a goof, and people like me decided to join in. I had fun doing it. My friends had fun doing it. If me having fun with the game I purchased is a problem with you, maybe you need to write another letter or ten to your official channels.

Well, that, or enjoy the game with us.

SisterMercy

SisterMercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sisters of Mercy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenosavel
... It's their job: what else would you have them do? Randomly jump into instances to make sure everyone's behaving and swing the old ban-stick?
Well, there were a few calls to nerf Gaile, but I'm sure it was just a spelling mistake....

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenosavel
Try not to get up-in-arms when they show up in-game over even small disturbances. It's their job: what else would you have them do? Randomly jump into instances to make sure everyone's behaving and swing the old ban-stick?
Honestly I think a little judicious banning here and there and some suprise visits to monitor the game icognito would be just the thing to put some people in line. Still that's my opinion and obviously not everyone agrees with me here which is your right. I'll respect the opinion of everyone on here but respecting that opinion does not mean I have to agree with it. Point of fact is I don't. Still I'm handling it my way which is to try to write informed responses and to avoid abusive name calling and other cheap tactics. I'm writing to A Net about some of my grievances and I can only hope they get back to me. I'm writing to some game magazines to maybe stimulate some thought. Honestly each time something this unique is done in the gaming industry it's a test bed for future applications. Hopefully this will allow them to better plan for some of these things. While they certainly can't cater to everyone, too many cooks and all that, if a large enough segment of gamers voice similar opinions maybe things will get fixed. Still if no one ever complained about things then nothing would ever change. So like me or hate me at least I am a catalyst for change which in and of itself can be good or bad. Only time will tell.

maina

maina

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Random Benevolence Society

E/Me

Both the Monk strike and this forum are what I love about this game. My girlfriend was sad she missed it with her monk (she was at work). Though she has never had the problems that seem to be causing this strike.

I don't see monks, I see players. If he/she is a bad monk, but a good player, the'll get better. If that person is a great monk but a bad player, they are still going to ruin my enjoyment. Doesn't matter the class, the person behind the class (or lack of) does. I will always remember I sucked WAY worse as an ele when I started than now, so can others. If the player is fun to play with, I don't care if I'm party chatting while face down in dirt.


Few Rants and I'm done.

--Respect-- I beleave everyone gets some, the rest is earned or lost by actions. I hold this true for myself as well as EVERYONE who is not me.

--I'm always an Ele, if I die I don't blame the monk ever. I usually blame the designer of the armor.

--Monk, if I die, don't blame me right away, it could be the way the armor doesn't cover even a quarter of me.

--If I advertise for a batt necro, it's not always for you.

--If aggro breaks and everything is attacking me, don't call me a noob for running out of your range. You want me to bring them to you?

--You need a recharge, I need a recharge! I'll never rush a fellow caster. (mez included)

--I play with people, not with classes. Monks get the same respect in my groups as anyone else.


I guess I'm sorry that some people have had the bad experiences that caused them to strike (the non-flameing trolls, and wannabes, that is). Believe it or not there are lots of us out there who have nothing to do with all this.

Monks or any other class, You have my respect until YOU do something to lose it, not your class, or build (to much), or skill as a player. Only you the person.

I support the strike I guess, only in so much as, people need more "nice" and more "respect" in and out of their lives.

thanks for your time,

maina

Isildur The Paladin

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kansas

Apocalyptic Guardians

W/

Some people even got banned for the strike

General Typhus

General Typhus

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

Behind the bush once again

Guillotine Tactics [GanK] ~ Leader

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isildur The Paladin
Some people even got banned for the strike
I'm glad to hear that.

This is so utterly childish that I can'tcomprehend who masterminded it. Probably a few ranting of guildies that snowballed into this.

I hope the strike is supressed with suspensions. This will only further tarnish monks' reputations.