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Originally Posted by NinjaKai
I went into a mission with a group of idiots because I was bored. When we got their the elementalist ran into a large group of monsters and the warriors stood back like they we're the ones who needed protection. Next thing I know the warriors are dead and they are saying "REZ ME STUPID MONK" they were speaking to me. I literally told them "Sorry I can't ressurect you. Your corpse has been used by a necro. Got to wait 10 minutes. And starting again won't work you'll die as soon as you enter the mission again." These guys actually fell for it. And being the cheaky little mesmer I am. I river danced on their heads. And then one of them said red engine. Which brings me to the point of this post. What does red engine mean? *Watches people fall backwards off seats*
I believe that on this forum, at least, it's used as a substitute for the f-word. As far as idiots go, I attempted Thunderhead Keep for the first time last night. What an experience--I needed valium afterwards. Tried twice with the first PUG--useless, with rushing warriors and players who don't know when to run away. I can't tell you how many times I was the only one left standing. Thank god for rebirth. Wish I'd river danced on their heads for a while first. Might have relieved some of the tension.
On top of that, we had two monks who apparently didn't realize that the eight pictures at the bottom of their screen are skills they can use. We noticed that one remained at the start of the mission. Some of the others started swearing at him--he claimed he was healing us from where he was standing, which was off the mini-map relative to where we all were. Um, sure. Didn't end well. Second PUG was better, but again, some warriors aggroed too much. Went back to town, dumped the warriors, picked up a few new players, took the two monk henchies, and completed the mission. Lesson learned: The monk henchies rock! That's my mesmer story for today. I've currently got a warrior in pre. She'll never aggro...she plans to hench as much as possible, too. NinjaKai
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Originally Posted by felinette
Nothing fancy. Empathy, Wastrel's, and a couple of well-timed interrupts (one doing major damage--forget the name--Power something).
I believe that on this forum, at least, it's used as a substitute for the f-word. As far as idiots go, I attempted Thunderhead Keep for the first time last night. What an experience--I needed valium afterwards. Tried twice with the first PUG--useless, with rushing warriors and players who don't know when to run away. I can't tell you how many times I was the only one left standing. Thank god for rebirth. Wish I'd river danced on their heads for a while first. Might have relieved some of the tension. On top of that, we had two monks who apparently didn't realize that the eight pictures at the bottom of their screen are skills they can use. We noticed that one remained at the start of the mission. Some of the others started swearing at him--he claimed he was healing us from where he was standing, which was off the mini-map relative to where we all were. Um, sure. Didn't end well. Second PUG was better, but again, some warriors aggroed too much. Went back to town, dumped the warriors, picked up a few new players, took the two monk henchies, and completed the mission. Lesson learned: The monk henchies rock! That's my mesmer story for today. I've currently got a warrior in pre. She'll never aggro...she plans to hench as much as possible, too. I remember my first time doing thunderhead. The monks we're idiots for the most part. Hello stupid stupid warriors and monks. You can't beat a mursaat spellcaster easily when the mesmers dead. Not forgetting the hords of jade armors around them. When they did res me I ran of the sat somewhere nice. They had no idea where I went. lol One key rules. "Never piss of the mesmer." Mesti Arcanus
I remember one trip I took into THead with a PUG and henchie monks. One of our players got booted right off the bat, so we went back to get him, by suiciding. We triggered the boss pack after the first bridge, and I proceeded to Riverdance until I died... it took us quite a while to die though, Mhenlo was so good. He'd keep healing us, and ressing us. It was quite funny to see all the enemies around us, and our health only dropping slowly. Too bad that was the one time we actually wanted him to stop!
Avarre
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Originally Posted by Mesti Arcanus
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Nothing fancy. Empathy, Wastrel's, and a couple of well-timed interrupts (one doing major damage--forget the name--Power something).
Power Spike, a good tool to stop a mark of protection from a dolyakmaster.
Banebow
I prefer shatter enchantment myself, that way when I lag. . .
Still those warriors will not likely remember that it was you who killed the dolyak master, more likely they will think the nuker decided to attack him or some such foolery. Or, if they remember, they will think that mesmers are great to kill monks, but since they did not see you help in anything else (even though you helped greatly) they assume mesmers are good for killing monks and nothing else. Maybe I am biased, but this seems to be the general consensus in game.
Francis Demeules
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Originally Posted by Banebow
Or, if they remember, they will think that mesmers are great to kill monks, but since they did not see you help in anything else (even though you helped greatly) they assume mesmers are good for killing monks and nothing else
When you're setting for anti casters, its hard to kill a warrior and vice versa. Well, at least you can use your teammates as a Hex shatter bomb in THK. Its really a good mission to use Shatter hex thought.
Thorath Of Krosa
I am a w/mo and i would like to say that i have never played as a Me before but id take any of you in a group any day (especially if you were infused and wanted to try and take on that big group of mursatt) i always get beat or hurt badly agianst mesmers and respect you all (ill just never start one cuz standing in the back bugs the hell out of me) but i will admit that without you guys the world would be a hard place to live in.
Francis Demeules
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Originally Posted by Thorath Of Krosa
I am a w/mo and i would like to say that i have never played as a Me before but id take any of you in a group any day (especially if you were infused and wanted to try and take on that big group of mursatt) i always get beat or hurt badly agianst mesmers and respect you all (ill just never start one cuz standing in the back bugs the hell out of me) but i will admit that without you guys the world would be a hard place to live in.
Well, at least we got a compliment from a W/Mo.
felinette
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Originally Posted by Banebow
Maybe I am biased, but this seems to be the general consensus in game.
I don't know, I find that many players do know the value of mesmers. I've made it to the ring of fire and I've not yet had a problem getting into a group. Having said that, there are definitely players who have no clue what mesmers do, or why it's generally good to have one in your party.
I have a monk character, and in some ways, I'd say she's worse off. Do a good job and nobody notices. Someone screws up and you get blamed. Nobody ever blames the mesmer, since they don't expect much from them. I'll probably create another mesmer at some point to try out a different profession combo or focus on a different skill school. I'm not in a hurry to create another monk. NinjaKai
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Originally Posted by Thorath Of Krosa
I am a w/mo and i would like to say that i have never played as a Me before but id take any of you in a group any day (especially if you were infused and wanted to try and take on that big group of mursatt) i always get beat or hurt badly agianst mesmers and respect you all (ill just never start one cuz standing in the back bugs the hell out of me) but i will admit that without you guys the world would be a hard place to live in.
Well that's a first for me. Most W/Mo I meet are often condisending. Your probably the most humble one i've ever met.
Cirian
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Got news for ya necro, Spiteful is actually a mesmer domination elite, put under curses. Its the elite empathy.
Just catching up with this thread
Avarre, you can't have Spiteful Spirit! It does way more than empathy does but that doesn't make it the elite empathy Necromancers have their own version of Empathy called Insidious Parasite - both trigger off attacks. Necromancers also have their own Backfire, called Soul Leech - both trigger off spells. While the mesmer versions are more damaging, the necromancer ones are lifesteals. Spiteful Spirit triggers off attacks and spells... and signets, skills, traps, glyphs, activation of stances, shouts... hell, if the victim so much as farts they take damage! It's also aoe, which to me makes it the elite Mark of Pain or Dark Aura. Mesmers have nothing like this... the closest forms of aoe chaos damage I can think of are quite different - Chaos Storm, Shatter Hex, Cry of Frustration, Energy Surge. Now if Chaos Storm stuck to the victim you cast it on, then you'd have something vaguely like Spiteful Spirit! It's quite visual too, so I imagine mesmers would get loads of groups with an ability like that  Maybe Spiteful Spirit was a mesmer ability way in the past before I started playing, but I think it's rightly a mighty necromancer curse now
Francis Demeules
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Originally Posted by Cirian
Just catching up with this thread
Avarre, you can't have Spiteful Spirit! It does way more than empathy does but that doesn't make it the elite empathy Necromancers have their own version of Empathy called Insidious Parasite - both trigger off attacks Forgot one thing, while the target is blind, Insidious parasite doesn't work. Empathy yes. The target must hit a foe to trigger Insidious parasite. |
