Crystalline Swords

milias

milias

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

Me/E

Don't hurt yourself there, Arya

Besides dropping from HoH chests, they also drop from quest reward chests in FoW and UW.

Vampiric Corruption

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Requiem of Dreamers

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
Not really true, I tested it with Crystalline req 13 and this Purple Longsword req 8, both same damage, neither have damage modifer or penetration %, and same hilt, and when I was doing dmg agaisnt a mob with my crystalline i was doing 16 - 22 dmg (non criticals) and when I tested the long sword it was doing 15 - 19, I killed the same mob type 7 times with each sword.

Now either high req does more dmg or different skin types mean some do more dmg then others. I was using the same swordmanship 13 durning the test for both weapons.
The damage you do depends on how high your attributes are set and also different skins can also do different damage.

Chief

Chief

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
Not really true, I tested it with Crystalline req 13 and this Purple Longsword req 8, both same damage, neither have damage modifer or penetration %, and same hilt, and when I was doing dmg agaisnt a mob with my crystalline i was doing 16 - 22 dmg (non criticals) and when I tested the long sword it was doing 15 - 19, I killed the same mob type 7 times with each sword.

Now either high req does more dmg or different skin types mean some do more dmg then others. I was using the same swordmanship 13 durning the test for both weapons.
This part of your statement is confusing:
Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
... neither has damage modifer or penetration %, and same hilt, ...
Maybe it was the poor writing/spelling that confused me , anyhow I am going to assume what you are saying is:
1. Both of your swords has no Weapon Modifier and has not been CUSTOMIZED.
2. Both of your swords has no Weapon Upgrade (Hilt or Pommel)
If what you are saying is true, you must have the "magical weapons" of Guild Wars and is contradicting what Alex Weekes said about weapon requirements.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...53&postcount=8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex 'GhostRaptor' Weekes
Weapon requirement works as follows:

1. If you meet or exceed the requirement, you will deal damage within the range listed.

2. If you do not meet the requirement, you will deal damage within a range not specified (though very similar to a 'starter' weapon).

Also note that your attribute has a passive effect on damage and the likelihood of critical hits (and thus more damage) independent of the weapon requirement. The requirement sets the 'base' damage range the game uses, which is then modified by the passive effect to reach the final damage actually dealt.

As for the difference between swords and axes ... a max damage sword and a max damage axe should, over time, deal roughly the same average damage. Ignoring criticals and other modifying variables, a max damage sword has an average damage of 18.5, while a max damage axe averages 17 (using simple math, not sure if those figures are 100% correct within the game engine). The axe has a larger variation, and thus an axe deals more damage on a critical hit. As you correctly pointed out, though, one of the biggest differences is in the skills available and the effects of those skills.

Think about this, though ... we know that a higher attribute score makes criticals hits more likely. So when comparing damage output between an axe and a sword, at low attribute values the difference is probably negligible. But at higher values the axe will probably be dealing more damage because of the more frequent critical hits. Also, an axe works better with Wild Blow than a sword does (because of the higher critical on an axe).

There's a lot to think about when it comes to deciding which weapon to use .
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makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

FoW, UW and HoH reward chests. Not chests you have to pay for. Personally, I think that the crystalline sword situation is all one big bug and they should drop from monsters or Anet are making the most exclusive and best looking weapons for their beloved class, the warrior.

Pho

Pho

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Maryland

W/E

I prefer HoH...lol you get fame and sometimes a crystaline,but ive only gotten sigils so far

Priest Of Sin

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

ahh, crystaline swords. I've only ever had ONE drop, it was in FOW, from the chest in front of Rastigan after the first quest. I nearly shat myself...

Apocrypha

Apocrypha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
I have just found out that higher req does more damage, but I think it said something bad about req 13, so I kinda got a punked crystalline max damage lol.
Wrong wrong wrong!

I've played for 14 months now, only ever seen the presearing crystalline and I sold that one for 1k!

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Crystallines also drop in the southern shiverpeaks from mobs. I've been around to see it happen, but most drop from keyless chests.

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken
Crystallines also drop in the southern shiverpeaks from mobs. I've been around to see it happen, but most drop from keyless chests.
Stop lying. No they dont. I guess this is another one of your far fetched stories like how you own a 15>50 crystalline sword yet make threads on wtb forum wanting cheap shields as you cant afford anything good.

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
I have just found out that higher req does more damage, but I think it said something bad about req 13, so I kinda got a punked crystalline max damage lol.
What...no thats not true...low req. is better...why do you think more ppl buy low req. swords O_o the extra points you have go into your damage factor. I don't know where yuou heard that comment, if so then tell me where and who.

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

If anyone here lies again, I swear...

Crystaline swords have been confirmed to drop from ANY unlocked chest. P-E-R-I-O-D... That's it... that's all... nothing else...

Tincanbilly0

Tincanbilly0

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

England

We Are The Samurai Pizza Cats [MEOW]

Erm... It's funny how people claim they "KNOW" that crystallines only come from unopened chests, but that is only because they never heared of them dropping elsewhere.

I can tell you for a fact that the do drop from certain creatures in the southern shiverpeaks as me and a friend did dual runs there and he got one.

As for which creature it was... i'll not tell, thats a secret for just me and mates.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

^^ Post a screenie of a monster dropping it. You can block the monsters name since its such an uber leet secret. Until then, nobody believes you.

Tincanbilly0

Tincanbilly0

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

England

We Are The Samurai Pizza Cats [MEOW]

Next time me or a friend gets one i will.

Hidden in the Mist

Hidden in the Mist

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

Riiight.

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

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Agreed, if you won't share don't post on the matter.

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

If I had the power to ban someone for saying such complete crap I would. It is the biggest waste of server space and you are spreading false information which is lies.

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

Ok, Lets set the facts. I have farmed over 4300 hours on my monk. Not a single crysteline dropped from an enemy...

I've farmed over 1000 hours on my warrior, never had one drop from anywhere but an unlocked chest.

I've cleared the shiverpeaks a few hundred times. Including Ice dome. Never had one drop.

Unless you have proof, Nobody will believe you.

I'm not saying they can't, just there is Absolutly no evidance of it happening.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tincanbilly0
Erm... It's funny how people claim they "KNOW" that crystallines come from unopened chests, but that is only because they never have seen them drop anywhere else.
Fixed some major errors in there. We HEAR lots of crap about it. But nobody EVER seems to post a screenie.

Post a screenie, and I will believe. (Unless it proves to be fake.)

danielcons

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

NOKU

W/

southen shiverpeack chest i get a purple one opening a tons of chests

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Quote:
Originally Posted by danielcons
southen shiverpeack chest i get a purple one opening a tons of chests
Orly?

Prove it.

Nexium

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Reward Chest from Kilroy Quest i Supposly to drop Crystllinesword..

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Lost Strongbox in drednoughts dirft and the lost strongbox outside thk would be the only chests in the southern shiverpeaks which could drop them. they have been nerfed so crystallines cannot drop there now.

only places are:-

kilroy quest reward chest = purple
fow quest reward chest = purple
hoh chest = gold

X Chilli

X Chilli

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

[LGiT]

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and whats about the reaper chest in the uw?

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Chilli
and whats about the reaper chest in the uw?
oo yeah and UW quest reward chests which are only purple ones

milias

milias

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
oo yeah and UW quest reward chests which are only purple ones
Does the reaper chest ever drop gold?

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by milias
Does the reaper chest ever drop gold?
I dont think so.

Akhilleus

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

considering i own 7 crystalline swords, and all but 1 was aquired directly from the person who got it (and in each case; from an HoH chest) i'd say that your BS theories of them dropping from NPCs in the southern shiverpeaks is nothing but wasting anyones time.

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

I don't suppose this happened recently either, did it? =)

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
Lost Strongbox in drednoughts dirft and the lost strongbox outside thk would be the only chests in the southern shiverpeaks which could drop them. they have been nerfed so crystallines cannot drop there now.

only places are:-

kilroy quest reward chest = purple
fow quest reward chest = purple
hoh chest = gold
I've seen gold stuff(like wands) pop from the kilroy chests though the Cyst Sword I have from it was purple.

Fain Dreamkiller

Fain Dreamkiller

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Tennessee

Mini Morbids

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according to guildwiki, this item dont drop.. only found in random chests in fow/uw or sometimes in an oro run.

Kael_

Kael_

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/

they drop in chests that doesnt req keys and so... but sadly these chests were nerfed i.e. the lost strongboxes...

OMFGimCUTE

OMFGimCUTE

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

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I hop around

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You mean Crystaline swords? they dont drop for anyhting. you only get them for chests in FoW and i think in hoh, dont know if thier still there tho.

Fain Dreamkiller

Fain Dreamkiller

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Tennessee

Mini Morbids

W/R

intresting, where we're these chests? i think they were just a glitch if they didn't need keys

Plazma Knight

Plazma Knight

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Nerf Wammo Plz[WaMo] Team Arena Top Guild

go do HoH and win halls ...they drop often now.

Fain Dreamkiller

Fain Dreamkiller

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Tennessee

Mini Morbids

W/R

to HoH mobile! come my brewmaster savion, we shall go together and with ur rank 5 and my leet noob moochin skills we shall find my sword! .....
....
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or we can just go outside heroes ascent and farm the sand drakes again

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Keyless chests weren't a glitch. They used to exist in explorable areas, now only as quest reward and the HoH Chest.

The explorable area ones mostly dropped white items, and some purples. But the problem came that people "ran" these chests because it didnt cost anything in hopes of a Crys. Sword drop - because even purple ones with low dmg mods sold for 100k+

The Hall of Heros chest is the only confirmed place to get Gold Crys. Swords.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Plazma Knight
go do HoH and win halls ...they drop often now.
Wtf? Great idea! just go to HoH and win because its that simple.

/endsarcasm

Separ

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Hard Corps

Me/R

Any updates on this thread? Where have Crystalline Swords been found (location of chest) and/or what has been dropping them (location/foe) in the past few months.

The Rift

The Rift

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Netherlands

N/

This is the only proof i got, always farmed for crystalline's at DDrift ... but like ussual they nerfed it long time ago. But i am quite convident that this is the only proof around were crystalline's drop










greetzzz Arcanus

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

going to shoot myself for this but i was on another GW fan site and someone had a SS of it droping from that 1 quest in SF. the thread date/post wasn't recent so proably when SF was just opened.

i forgot to book mark the thread!!! I KNOW!!
/doh
/sorry
/shootself

anyways..... sense then i've been looking for the thread and running the quest a few times for kicks after farming or chest running. no luck of 1 dropping.... been doing it for the past month or so before the "double gold chest thing"


nice screen shots Arcanus =)