R/Me Solo FoW Forest Farming [video]

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

04 Apr 2006 at 05:58 - 81

Yes Kindle is what I meant

Kamahl The Great

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Armageddon Warriorz

W/Me

04 Apr 2006 at 11:03 - 82

I had the worst problem with farming in the forest, I could pretty much take everything down i wanted to but the spiders, couldnt time savage shot and my troll to put regen back up again so i keep dieing

Is there a way that you could farm here with the W/Me Build (if you bring mantra of lightning) instead of going to the beach?

jules

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

04 Apr 2006 at 13:10 - 83

Great post and thanks for sharing the build. I'm going to try this once I unlock the 2 mesmer skills for my ranger. Here's my a suggestion to modify this build.

Quote:

Originally Posted by remmeh

R/Me
7+2 Expertise
12+1 Wilderness Survival
8+1 Marksmanship
8 Inspiration IMO it's far better to use the mask of whichever attribute you need the most points in. Because of the nature of the points system, as you go higher you need a greater number of attribute points to go up one attribute level. For the sake of argument I'm using a WS mask.. so:

8+1 Expertise
11+2 WS
8+1 Marksmanship
8 Inspiration

This setup leaves you with with another 12 attribute points to play around with.

I haven't tried this build out but I was wondering why you need 13 WS because troll's unguent gives you +9 at 12 WS. Thanks.

EDIT: Sorry, dumb question. I'll answer it myself: More WS=more dmg from kindle arrows.

remmeh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Apathy Inc [AI]

R/Mo

04 Apr 2006 at 15:08 - 84

Quote:

Originally Posted by jules

Great post and thanks for sharing the build. I'm going to try this once I unlock the 2 mesmer skills for my ranger. Here's my a suggestion to modify this build.

IMO it's far better to use the mask of whichever attribute you need the most points in. Because of the nature of the points system, as you go higher you need a greater number of attribute points to go up one attribute level. For the sake of argument I'm using a WS mask.. so:

8+1 Expertise
11+2 WS
8+1 Marksmanship
8 Inspiration

This setup leaves you with with another 12 attribute points to play around with.

I haven't tried this build out but I was wondering why you need 13 WS because troll's unguent gives you +9 at 12 WS. Thanks.

EDIT: Sorry, dumb question. I'll answer it myself: More WS=more dmg from kindle arrows. more damage, more poison. =)

Svinat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Guild Of Geeks

04 Apr 2006 at 16:34 - 85

Valerius

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

04 Apr 2006 at 17:34 - 86

Quote:

IMO it's far better to use the mask of whichever attribute you need the most points in. Because of the nature of the points system, as you go higher you need a greater number of attribute points to go up one attribute level. For the sake of argument I'm using a WS mask.. so:

8+1 Expertise
11+2 WS
8+1 Marksmanship
8 Inspiration yeah that's right... usually w/e attribute you have the most points in is the type of mask you will want to wear... that's the beauty of of my req 8 bows as i can have a +10 Troll and +6 longer poison with a poisoners string

Quote:

The worms do actually attack you if you run away from them. Looks like they are attacking fleeing enemies.

I do have some problems doing this, and the problem is to get safe to the right part of the forest. After I have killed all the enemies on the left side, I run across the road, the skeles do sometimes follow me, but I do get away from them most of the time. The main problem is when I am at the other side, because it comes many enemies at the same time then, and I keep dying. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? yeah the wurms are weird... it seems if you attack from the farthest range or something they'll attack you... but if you move up close to them they won't... their soo bugged...

anyways... running past the skele's isn't really that hard... just try not to get hit by their Wild Blow... after you lose aggro to them go slow and try to only spawn one spider... also watch out for the patrol... if you aggro more then one spider i usually keep running along the edge to the corner... then take everything out slowly from there...

Svinat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Guild Of Geeks

04 Apr 2006 at 19:21 - 87

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valerius

this is how i take em' down... fire a PA {E} then a Savage Shot right after... the savage will interupt their AP... shoot another arrow after that to interupt their HS... now move up close with your short bow (assuming you won't aggro others... otherwise stick with your flatbow) now... the spider will attempt to use AP every 12 sec and HS every 20 sec... so just time em'... you'll get use to it

yeah that's right... usually w/e attribute you have the most points in is the type of mask you will want to wear... that's the beauty of of my req 8 bows as i can have a +10 Troll and +6 longer poison with a poisoners string

yeah the wurms are weird... it seems if you attack from the farthest range or something they'll attack you... but if you move up close to them they won't... their soo bugged...

anyways... running past the skele's isn't really that hard... just try not to get hit by their Wild Blow... after you lose aggro to them go slow and try to only spawn one spider... also watch out for the patrol... if you aggro more then one spider i usually keep running along the edge to the corner... then take everything out slowly from there... Well, I tried another way. I ran around to the other entrance near the bone dragon, then I took the right part of the forest from there. The patrols are really nasty.

remmeh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Apathy Inc [AI]

R/Mo

04 Apr 2006 at 21:21 - 88

the skeletals are not the happiest bunch of NPCs roaming the plains 50 miles below the surface.

Abysall Demon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Old N Dirty [ym]

Mo/W

05 Apr 2006 at 10:43 - 89

Hi,

I really would like to learn this, maybe you could PM me on: Master Vic

I do need to gain a few lvl's on my ranger, but we can work something out.

remmeh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Apathy Inc [AI]

R/Mo

06 Apr 2006 at 03:11 - 90

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abysall Demon

Hi,

I really would like to learn this, maybe you could PM me on: Master Vic

I do need to gain a few lvl's on my ranger, but we can work something out. due to the insane amount of schoolwork this term, i'm afraid i can't be on GW as much as i'd like. even so, i don't really do personal lessons, because someone inevitably ends up dying :\

Valerius

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

06 Apr 2006 at 04:48 - 91

well... watching the video should pretty much teach you all you need to know anyways... but if you still don't understand you can come along with me on one of my runs... just die at the beginning and spectate or something

remmeh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Apathy Inc [AI]

R/Mo

06 Apr 2006 at 14:26 - 92

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valerius

just remember not to get Rastigan killed.

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

06 Apr 2006 at 14:48 - 93

I like this build, good video and description. Got the run done on my second try

remmeh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Apathy Inc [AI]

R/Mo

07 Apr 2006 at 22:57 - 94

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarre

I like this build, good video and description. Got the run done on my second try

danks

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

08 Apr 2006 at 07:07 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valerius

anyways... running past the skele's isn't really that hard... just try not to get hit by their Wild Blow... after you lose aggro to them go slow and try to only spawn one spider... also watch out for the patrol... if you aggro more then one spider i usually keep running along the edge to the corner... then take everything out slowly from there... It is ridiculous how much easier this is than running around the outside to the other entrance. I feel like a moron for not noticing before. I guess I should break down and watch the video!

ultimate2

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

World Wonders [WW]

08 Apr 2006 at 11:02 - 96

Svinat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Guild Of Geeks

08 Apr 2006 at 13:26 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultimate2

Hi,

Nice build i wanna say !

But.. i always die on group of spirit shepherds and spirit woods .
Whenever i try to kill Wood first ( As u say ) those Shepherds start spike
me lol...
So what is problem? And if i dont kill Woods first they attack me for 30+ dmg...

Thx. Your problem is probably that you use the -2 in stance bow? Use Drago's when you meet a group containing wood and shepherds, if not you'll get in range of the shepherds.

Da Cebuano

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Virginia born in Cebu

Jelly Toast[jT]

08 Apr 2006 at 15:00 - 98

I soloed burning pits(not completely cause I got sick of the time it takes to kill the mobs due to healer monk and the stupid drops) If anyone got a really good drop at the pits, let me know and I'll probly try incorporating it to my runs, probly make a more efficient build as well.

I use an axe warr, I soloed it AFTER I cleared spiders. Problem is it takes too long, and the wurms are pretty much almost impossible if no impossible to kill w/ the skillset you'll have to bring, I haven't tried sword yet, but I might later on, maybe the bleeding gash 100blades might be able to kill it, but cleave, cyclone and penetrate don't do enough dmg to counter its regen due to high def and hp regen.

Also, I have an 18% axe pruning mod which I'll sell to luxon foes to fight against kurzick plant titans ^^ I'm holding on to it till then cause atm none is paying very well for em.

Also, the vid itself is good, not hard, but I would've been more interested in your pulling styles to engage skeletals and shadow. I failed to do it w/ my warr, although I aggroed skeles first and I got deep frozen early on, I used a long bow ofcourse. I also only made it to the entrance of the forest. I killed the first sheperds, but then trying to kill the wurms, I forgot to watch my radar then do raped by the patrols. Spirit of primal echoes is a bitch too.

ultimate2

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

World Wonders [WW]

08 Apr 2006 at 15:35 - 99

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svinat

Your problem is probably that you use the -2 in stance bow? Use Drago's when you meet a group containing wood and shepherds, if not you'll get in range of the shepherds. Well.. actually i dont use the -2 Stance bow cuz i have no problem with Spiders,
And the other thing i dont have Drago's Flat bow

( No money

) And i use Collector's "Ascalon Bow" ( Its Flatbow as wiki says )

remmeh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Apathy Inc [AI]

R/Mo

08 Apr 2006 at 15:51 - 100

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Cebuano

Svinat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Guild Of Geeks

08 Apr 2006 at 17:32 - 101

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultimate2

Well.. actually i dont use the -2 Stance bow cuz i have no problem with Spiders,
And the other thing i dont have Drago's Flat bow

( No money

) And i use Collector's "Ascalon Bow" ( Its Flatbow as wiki says ) I think Drago's has got longer range than the collectorbow..

Valerius

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

08 Apr 2006 at 18:35 - 102

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultimate2

watch your radar and make sure none of them come within spell-casting range... if the spirit wood is not within range start attacking the spirit sheperds until he does

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svinat Your problem is probably that you use the -2 in stance bow? Use Drago's when you meet a group containing wood and shepherds, if not you'll get in range of the shepherds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svinat

I think Drago's has got longer range than the collectorbow.. flatbows and longbows both have the same range... so that is not the problem

ultimate2

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

World Wonders [WW]

08 Apr 2006 at 19:56 - 103

Ok ty!

Tiny Killer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Oshkosh, WI USA

Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]

09 Apr 2006 at 11:46 - 104

Thanks for this information. I have been having a lot of fun working this one out.

Svinat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Guild Of Geeks

09 Apr 2006 at 13:01 - 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valerius

watch your radar and make sure none of them come within spell-casting range... if the spirit wood is not within range start attacking the spirit sheperds until he does

flatbows and longbows both have the same range... so that is not the problem Are you sure? Someone told me that Drago's has got longer range but worse accuracy.

God's Will

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Rogues of Bastion

R/E

09 Apr 2006 at 14:03 - 106

That doesn't sound likely.

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

09 Apr 2006 at 14:36 - 107

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svinat

Are you sure? Someone told me that Drago's has got longer range but worse accuracy. Then they were mis informed.

Flat Bows have the same range as Long Bows (longest)
Flat Bows have the same attack speed as Short Bows (fastest)
Flat Bows have the most ridiculously big arc ever so you miss moving targets much more often

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

09 Apr 2006 at 14:56 - 108

Since i like running on my ranger i've got myself some useful items for it. These 2 i've found work really well for running ANYWHERE on a ranger.

Crippling Spatha of Defence
Start by ignoring everything about it except the +5 armour mod

Crimson Carapace Shield (the good ol' desert collectors strike again)
+45 health (in stance)
-2 damge (in stance)

If you were feeling really posh you could bring 2 weapons with +7 mods

Also if i was using Dodge/Storm Chaser (like i use to for running to Ice Imps) just switch between a +4 Exp and +4 WS mask, takes alot of effort so usually half way there i got bored of it.

Valerius

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

09 Apr 2006 at 16:57 - 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evilsod

Crimson Carapace Shield (the good ol' desert collectors strike again)
+45 health (in stance)
-2 damge (in stance)

If you were feeling really posh you could bring 2 weapons with +7 mods

Also if i was using Dodge/Storm Chaser (like i use to for running to Ice Imps) just switch between a +4 Exp and +4 WS mask, takes alot of effort so usually half way there i got bored of it. i use the +55HP axe and the CCS +45HP/-2DMG in stance to get to the Forest...

i don't know about switching to a Superior tho... sure it'll make your running skills last a lil' longer but then your down -75HP... i think it's best to just stick with the original build where SC lasts 19 sec which is awesome imo

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

09 Apr 2006 at 17:08 - 110

Which +55 axe would this be?

I'm presuming some sort of stupid Ascalon quest reward?

Plus after doing a few runs of it today (4 trips 3 screwed up in forest 1 compelted) i couldn't even be bothered to switch to them items... The rest of the run is incredibly easy, its just getting past that first skel group and sometimes the 2nd when they spawned badly (survived 1 deep freeze so far

). Amusing to go running off and start killing Skeleton Impalers after the forest too, aslong as you can press Escape and cancel your unguent before they interrupt it you win

Valerius

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

09 Apr 2006 at 17:20 - 111

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evilsod

Which +55 axe would this be?

). Amusing to go running off and start killing Skeleton Impalers after the forest too, aslong as you can press Escape and cancel your unguent before they interrupt it you win

it's the HoD Axe... they go for well over 500K as you can't get them anymore

and... Escape {E}?

EDIT -- nm... your prolly using SnipiousMax's build yeah?

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

09 Apr 2006 at 17:51 - 112

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valerius

it's the HoD Axe... they go for well over 500K as you can't get them anymore

and... Escape {E}?

EDIT -- nm... your prolly using SnipiousMax's build yeah? I think he meant the escape key on the keyboard, not the skill.

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

09 Apr 2006 at 18:31 - 113

Oh, some more legendary items from Henge of Denravi...

Yeah i meant the escape button on the keyboard. Unless i can figure out how to cheat like Ancient Skales

remmeh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Apathy Inc [AI]

R/Mo

09 Apr 2006 at 20:14 - 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evilsod

Oh, some more legendary items from Henge of Denravi...

Yeah i meant the escape button on the keyboard. Unless i can figure out how to cheat like Ancient Skales

Thinking about another elite. Would it be possibly to use Melandrus Arrows maybe? Wouldn't make a lot of difference to the spiders but the extra damage because of AoR could be devasting but i suppose the lack of poison could make you suffer a bit. Kindle Arrows too... you NEED NEED kindle (unless you have a fiery bow, but it's still recommended for the +dmg). otherwise, your attacks won't do diddly squat to the spirit woods, who will kill you if you don't kill them first.

edit: i actually killed a group of 3 skales (smoke pits) when they tried to wand me through a wall. but their attacks HURT and you can't do anything to armor stack against them (it's not physical, it's not elemental, dunno what type of dmg their wanding is). they hit me for 37 each time. but they go down fast when they don't have siphon+transfer.

edit2: it's actually easy to tank past a group of skeletals and ether breakers... with 551hp, i lose around 250hp just tanking through it for the 10sec duration of deepfreeze.

0siris

Riding the Gravy Train

Join Date: Oct 2005

Chicago Area

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

09 Apr 2006 at 20:38 - 115

Nicely done remmeh...

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

10 Apr 2006 at 03:07 - 116

Quote:

Originally Posted by remmeh

....their attacks HURT and you can't do anything to armor stack against them (it's not physical, it's not elemental, dunno what type of dmg their wanding is). they hit me for 37 each time..... I think it's Chaos Damage.

Cowboy Nastyman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Me/Mo

10 Apr 2006 at 13:24 - 117

im pretty sure since they are necros its dark damage

Silent Elvin Ranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Ontario, Canada

11 Apr 2006 at 23:28 - 118

Overall...Great build. Great to see that my ranger wasn't a waste of 15k armor. Then theres the sweetness of proving my brother (and any other ranger h8rs) wrong with his famous line "RANGERS CAN'T SOLO U IDIOT"...ROTFL. Anyways i have also found IDS solo ranger build, solo grawl farming build w/ranger, solo UW trapping with ranger, and soloing minitours/trolls with a trapping build using oath shot on recharge. Great video, loved watching it
GJ!

primitiveworker

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

12 Apr 2006 at 06:28 - 119

Well, after a few tries I finally got it. At first, the problem was just getting there--especially where the Shadow and Skeleton mobs are next to eachother. Your "running to the forest" video set me straight and now I have no trouble.

The second problem was after running past the bridge--sometimes they wouldn't break aggro until after two spiders had already popped out and I didn't know what to do then.

Like most other solo experiences: practice makes perfect.

Thanks for the build and the video! This is the most reliable xp and loot income I have come across. Now when I'm in a solo mood, there's excitement again!

edit: Oh yeah, I only use Drago's Sundering Flatbow. I was using the -2 longbow or Elswyth's Poisoning Longbow but inexplicably they don't have the same range as the flatbow. Although all data suggests otherwise, the flatbow does in fact have a much better range than the longbow. You can test this yourself simply by switching to a longbow when you've already fired a fire shots with Drago's at the first Shepherds. It's possible that the slightly uneven terrain and different arcs are factoring in.

I'm too squeamish to try the shortbow technique on the Spiders. I bring two out too often.

Ephemeral Dreamer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

12 Apr 2006 at 14:57 - 120

Quote:

Originally Posted by primitiveworker

The second problem was after running past the bridge--sometimes they wouldn't break aggro until after two spiders had already popped out and I didn't know what to do then..

This used to happen to me a few times, I would just keep running till i reached the wall(near where your run would normall end), check for spider 1st, before clearing the 2 spirit woods, and just continue the run, expect this time I would work backwards, for the end point and clear my way back to the bridge.

PS If you run far enough left from the bridge(well i think its left), and reach the wall, you should be safe from the 3 shepherds and woods that patrol that area

Quote:

Originally Posted by primitiveworker

I'm too squeamish to try the shortbow technique on the Spiders. I bring two out too often. If you happen to lure 2 spider out at the same time, just run away. Now if they aren't right next to each other, you can easy lure 1 away. Just equip yuor drago's bow(longbow or flatbow), and get within firing range of it, and posion it. Let it use healing spring and apply posion, and then slow back up away, firing at it a few time so it don't run back to its spawning place, When you think you have pulled it far enough, just switch over to your shortbow, and KILL IT!!! Might take you a few trys to pull it away though