R/Me Solo FoW Forest Farming [video]
remmeh
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Originally Posted by kicks66
im finding it harder and harder to get to the forest, i keep dieing at the skeletal/shadow mesmer and ele bit :/ before i would get there 90% now ive tried about 6 times and not got there once 
that does suck... especially since your investment of 1k is down the drain 
Iskrah
I have to echo kicks66's impression... But that may be just hasard. Does someone have a different feeling about it?
Kidney Licker
What is making them hard to run through? They tend to spawn in different positions each time, some which make it really difficult to run through and some really easy.
prencher
Just keep at it, eventually you will master pulling back the skellies into the shadow army for all the different spawns.
Also have patience.. Let them move into a good position before you start, don't just rush in. Keep at it, it might take you 5 mins more, but if you take care to back away at the smallest sign of trouble you will be alright.. Unless that trouble is a deep freeze of course
That said, sometimes you do get completely impossible spawns, though I find that rare.
Also have patience.. Let them move into a good position before you start, don't just rush in. Keep at it, it might take you 5 mins more, but if you take care to back away at the smallest sign of trouble you will be alright.. Unless that trouble is a deep freeze of course
That said, sometimes you do get completely impossible spawns, though I find that rare.
remmeh
sometimes if you can run past only the shadow army and stop to heal, you can lose about 240-250 hp by just tanking out the skeles.
Their main sources of damage are from E-surge (80), Deep Freeze (64ish), Shatter Enchantment (no enchants to shatter), Cry of Frustration (don't stop to Troll), and wanding.
Their main sources of damage are from E-surge (80), Deep Freeze (64ish), Shatter Enchantment (no enchants to shatter), Cry of Frustration (don't stop to Troll), and wanding.
Wolydarg
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Originally Posted by remmeh
sometimes if you can run past only the shadow army and stop to heal, you can lose about 240-250 hp by just tanking out the skeles.
Their main sources of damage are from E-surge (80), Deep Freeze (64ish), Shatter Enchantment (no enchants to shatter), Cry of Frustration (don't stop to Troll), and wanding. Cry of Frustration: If target foe is using a skill, that foe and all foes in the area are interrupted and suffer 10...37 damage.
Troll Unguent: Skill. For 10 seconds, you gain health regeneration of +3...9.
I'm pretty sure CoF gets troll...and they also have maelstorm if you just happened to be standing still for no apparent reason. The elementalists never break aggro on me even when they're being Cof'd and e-surged. This ele group has costed me far too many plats.
I run in there with TU, get in range of skele group, TU again (now at like 2xx hp) shoot an arrow, run back, try to troll again, and if I get the troll off without incendiary bonds/fireballs going off, I have made the run. Usually it turns out with me on the floor but there's still satisfaction in watching my killers get raped by skeletons.
Their main sources of damage are from E-surge (80), Deep Freeze (64ish), Shatter Enchantment (no enchants to shatter), Cry of Frustration (don't stop to Troll), and wanding. Cry of Frustration: If target foe is using a skill, that foe and all foes in the area are interrupted and suffer 10...37 damage.
Troll Unguent: Skill. For 10 seconds, you gain health regeneration of +3...9.
I'm pretty sure CoF gets troll...and they also have maelstorm if you just happened to be standing still for no apparent reason. The elementalists never break aggro on me even when they're being Cof'd and e-surged. This ele group has costed me far too many plats.
I run in there with TU, get in range of skele group, TU again (now at like 2xx hp) shoot an arrow, run back, try to troll again, and if I get the troll off without incendiary bonds/fireballs going off, I have made the run. Usually it turns out with me on the floor but there's still satisfaction in watching my killers get raped by skeletons.
Primus
Well, heres is what I use.
Distracting shot
Dual shot
Poison arrow
Kindle arrows
Troll ungent
Storm chaser
Physical Protection
Favorable Winds
Expertise: 9+1
Wilderness: 11+1
Marksmanship: 10+1+1
Inspiration: 4 (or 3.. can't remember..)
I'm sure most of the skills have been mentioned here before, but not sure about the attribute points. Plus I'm way too lazy to re-read the entire 13 page thread
I'm sure that by going with less wilderness I'm killing sheperds and spirit woods slower, but with 12 into marksmanship, spiders are going down much faster.
As most here, I'm having a very tough time getting into chest run groups now... And have yet to see those 3+ shard runs... I'm still hopefull though!
Distracting shot
Dual shot
Poison arrow
Kindle arrows
Troll ungent
Storm chaser
Physical Protection
Favorable Winds
Expertise: 9+1
Wilderness: 11+1
Marksmanship: 10+1+1
Inspiration: 4 (or 3.. can't remember..)
I'm sure most of the skills have been mentioned here before, but not sure about the attribute points. Plus I'm way too lazy to re-read the entire 13 page thread
I'm sure that by going with less wilderness I'm killing sheperds and spirit woods slower, but with 12 into marksmanship, spiders are going down much faster.
As most here, I'm having a very tough time getting into chest run groups now... And have yet to see those 3+ shard runs... I'm still hopefull though!
Evilsod
You can always just stand and watch the skeleton group. If they're close enough you can guarantee there wanderings will eventually bring them into a brawl. Occasionally you can run straight past the shadows and down the side of the skeletons without having to draw agro at all.
Pulling them is a bitch though, normally ends up getting me very nearly killed, usually though if you agro the skels then run back instantly they don't follow you, but then after you've healed if you come close enough they run forwards anyway and run straight into the shadows and start fighting.
Pulling them is a bitch though, normally ends up getting me very nearly killed, usually though if you agro the skels then run back instantly they don't follow you, but then after you've healed if you come close enough they run forwards anyway and run straight into the shadows and start fighting.
Evilsod
That was an odd run... 3 shards before i even got past the first lot of spiders, then 2 red dyes till the next group of spiders. Then due to shitty positioning all 3 shepherds in the next group spiked me without moving...
The nerf on Dual Shot is really getting annoying, it use to recharge perfectly with Savage Shot, now its just irritating.
The nerf on Dual Shot is really getting annoying, it use to recharge perfectly with Savage Shot, now its just irritating.
Huntmaster
Anyone else run into the glitch where shepards are actually farther/closer then their visual forms show? Too many times i've been killed when i think i'm really out of cast range, but magically, they're closer..
SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by Huntmaster
Anyone else run into the glitch where shepards are actually farther/closer then their visual forms show? Too many times i've been killed when i think i'm really out of cast range, but magically, they're closer..
I see that sometimes too. Not just with the Forest run, but against spiders on the beach too.
Evilsod
Well i knew flatbows had a long range, but thats just ridiculous. This always seems to happen with this group too.
remmeh
It's just a positioning glitch. Happens all the time in there *shrug*
and why aren't you playing Factions? lol
and why aren't you playing Factions? lol
Denshoni
Trying to save up for FoW armor for Factions chars mebbe? o.o
Evilsod
Cos Factions is the suxxor
That and i don't have the money spare to buy it.
That and i don't have the money spare to buy it.
Ginji
Nice Vids and guide. Will definately use. 
Huntmaster
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Originally Posted by remmeh
and why aren't you playing Factions? lol
Not everyone wants to buy it.
remmeh
); sometimes i wish i hadn't bought factions. there's too much new stuff to learn and master 
Valerius
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Originally Posted by remmeh
); sometimes i wish i hadn't bought factions. there's too much new stuff to learn and master
lmao tell me about it... i'm walking around place to place having no idea where i'm going or what i'm supposed to do... but it's soo much fun
lmao tell me about it... i'm walking around place to place having no idea where i'm going or what i'm supposed to do... but it's soo much fun
remmeh
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Originally Posted by Valerius
lmao tell me about it... i'm walking around place to place having no idea where i'm going or what i'm supposed to do... but it's soo much fun
yup yup... it's a new feeling to not know anything about Factions when you've beaten Prophecies numerous times :P
yup yup... it's a new feeling to not know anything about Factions when you've beaten Prophecies numerous times :P
BoondockSaint
Ive done this run mant times (congrats on the build) and I've found 2 spawns that are impossible to get by. 1 is were skeltons spawn right in the exit to the plain, and the other when the shadow army is very near that same point and the skeltons spawn to very close. pulling them does work for some spawns while u can run by a good spawn. btw has anyone swithed out duel shot with needling, havent tired it yet by though it migh me intreasting since kindeling and posion bring most creatures, except spider, 50%>health in a shot or 2.
sky the unstopable
i havent been in in a while because of factions. but my last 7 runs before i switched over consisted of dieing where i was supposed to pull the skellys. ended up trappin uw and got 2 ecto tho then after i failed the next one i realised that i am playing other parts of guild wars just to fuel my FoW forest addiction. lata.
remmeh
too bad shards have dropped to 3.5k buying price @ trader );
Tiny Killer
Well, with the change made to Dual Shot, I decided to swap it out with Needling Shot. Needling Shot takes the spiders down right now. Other than that, I still run the build 'as posted'. Far and away the most fun farm for a ranger.
The Lich Ranger
Not worth doing anymore if u want gold, maybe for fun :/
ShadowFyre
I've been using this build for a time now. From my personal experience it works very well and switching dodge for Dual Shot is a nice idea. I have tried others but seem to like that more. Penetrating isn't so bad. On the high note glad to see someone sharing and seeing the fruits of it. Btw..Prunning grip is very useful with the collecters longbow. AC +5 isn't all that great..But have the prunning is better to me.
lifesux006
ehh, i farm it for fun AND gold, sure i might get 3.5k out of a shard, but what about all the other stuff? obsidian keys with some good drops, last time i got in i opened a chest (from a key that DROPPED) and got a Gold Chaos Axe [req 8 axe] Uniden
So what if the shards are worth nothing? people who are poor but good farmers and want FoW armor can do this, and for a while. and the chest drops ftw
PS: If you cant make it where the skeletals are, with the shadow army, like someone said before the deep freeze hits em before u make it to the army, i took Mantra Of Frost to stop the pain and IT WORKED!
So just try and if you want FoW armor and u cant afford do it
So what if the shards are worth nothing? people who are poor but good farmers and want FoW armor can do this, and for a while. and the chest drops ftw
PS: If you cant make it where the skeletals are, with the shadow army, like someone said before the deep freeze hits em before u make it to the army, i took Mantra Of Frost to stop the pain and IT WORKED!
So just try and if you want FoW armor and u cant afford do it
antoninus
i tried this for like 10+ times and i could never get past those 3 shadow creeps where you need to pull the skeleton group to make them fight each other. i never got deep freezed by the skel group, its the elementals that's killing me.. i cant ever seem to be able to tank them long enough to aggro the skel group.. got +9 at troll, all minor runes including a minor vigor... /sigh.
Wolydarg
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Originally Posted by antoninus
i tried this for like 10+ times and i could never get past those 3 shadow creeps where you need to pull the skeleton group to make them fight each other. i never got deep freezed by the skel group, its the elementals that's killing me.. i cant ever seem to be able to tank them long enough to aggro the skel group.. got +9 at troll, all minor runes including a minor vigor... /sigh.
I gave up trying to pull, I just run by them now and try to catch a good spawn of skellies...
Sneale.
I've done this solo with my R/W about thrice now, and I was thinking about some aspects that could make the run there easier, seeing as half the time i die ...
Does anyone know who wins out of the fight between the shadow mob and the skeletal mob? If so you may be able to take on one of the mobs at the end (if there isn't any Skeletal berserkers in there). But this would have to happen if you can still attack them without them casting any hexes or spells, (avoid aggro basically).
Maybe if the shadow army win it would make the run a whole lot easier.
Could someone maybe respond to my questions? Cause I'd really like to know if this is possible...
Does anyone know who wins out of the fight between the shadow mob and the skeletal mob? If so you may be able to take on one of the mobs at the end (if there isn't any Skeletal berserkers in there). But this would have to happen if you can still attack them without them casting any hexes or spells, (avoid aggro basically).
Maybe if the shadow army win it would make the run a whole lot easier.
Could someone maybe respond to my questions? Cause I'd really like to know if this is possible...
remmeh
skeletals omgwtfpwn the shadows. (if you mean the groups by the hill)
Sneale.
I thought so, (those guys take no prisoners ).
I was also wondering if any skeles get into aggro if you pull them to levelled grounds with a flatbow, it would make the run so much easier if you could wipe them out before making your way to the forest.
I was also wondering if any skeles get into aggro if you pull them to levelled grounds with a flatbow, it would make the run so much easier if you could wipe them out before making your way to the forest.
Wolydarg
You can't tank e-burns, godly timed cof's, maelstorms, deep freeze, and blurry vision...probably more, too..
antoninus
Can someone else confirm this? I think the Spiders have resistance against fire damage (kindle arrows) that's why they take too long to kill in the video. Fought those guys yesterday with kindle off and i do about 10-20 damage per shot (not sure about the damage, but it definitely wasn't 6-8)
Yakumo
In general, it is considered that creatures of certain types are comparable to players of certain professions in terms of armor.
The Armored Cave Spiders are Ranger based, so they're likely to have more resistance to elemental damage than physical. The same can be seen with the Rockshot Devourers in the desert, where physical damage does more than elemental.
Warrior based creatures like the Snarling Driftwoods (Minotaurs, Griffons, etc) tend to be be more resistant against physical attacks (similar to player Warrior armors), so elemental damage would be better.
A vampiric weapon mod is a good choice as it ignores armor/resistance. =)
The Armored Cave Spiders are Ranger based, so they're likely to have more resistance to elemental damage than physical. The same can be seen with the Rockshot Devourers in the desert, where physical damage does more than elemental.
Warrior based creatures like the Snarling Driftwoods (Minotaurs, Griffons, etc) tend to be be more resistant against physical attacks (similar to player Warrior armors), so elemental damage would be better.
A vampiric weapon mod is a good choice as it ignores armor/resistance. =)
Across The Battle
Someone mentioned to me that this farming spot got nerfed, doesn't seem it though?
Also: can someone teach me this when US accually has favor, I need a different addiction other then spider farming :-D
IGN: Ama Benal
Also: can someone teach me this when US accually has favor, I need a different addiction other then spider farming :-D
IGN: Ama Benal
remmeh
I haven't done a run in months. Blame factions :P
i don't think it got nerfed at all...
Also, i've been turning down requests for tutorials. I simply don't have enough time in my schedule to worry about that. I apologize in advance. Please don't PM me in game about this.
i don't think it got nerfed at all...
Also, i've been turning down requests for tutorials. I simply don't have enough time in my schedule to worry about that. I apologize in advance. Please don't PM me in game about this.
Lithium,
didnt get nerfed, there was a glitch where ectos and shards stopped dropping in UW and FoW. Its been fixed now tho
Across The Battle
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Originally Posted by remmeh
I haven't done a run in months. Blame factions :P
i don't think it got nerfed at all...
Also, i've been turning down requests for tutorials. I simply don't have enough time in my schedule to worry about that. I apologize in advance. Please don't PM me in game about this. Yeah, dont worry I understand, I wouldnt pm you in game anyway unless you said to, i find it rude...
But thanks everyone, If anyone can show me how to do it please PM me here or on GW IGN:Ama Benal
Thanks
i don't think it got nerfed at all...
Also, i've been turning down requests for tutorials. I simply don't have enough time in my schedule to worry about that. I apologize in advance. Please don't PM me in game about this. Yeah, dont worry I understand, I wouldnt pm you in game anyway unless you said to, i find it rude...
But thanks everyone, If anyone can show me how to do it please PM me here or on GW IGN:Ama Benal
Thanks
Evilsod
Its quite easy to lure the Skeletons. If they are REALLY far apart then your in for some trouble, but then you could probably lose the Shadow Mesmer chasing you instead.
All you do is use Unguent, walk (as in no running skills) past them, using a Flatbow to lure the Skeletons (mainly because its arc is stupidly big so you have ages to turn) and run. More often than not the skeletons will stop chasing you and return back to a small group. But you'll find that if you go near to them again, they suddenly charge at you for no reason. If you havent guessed, they run straight into the Shadows and start having a nice scrap. so you can run by (you still get hit by the odd spell though, never had Deep Freeze come my way yet though).
Only failed the run 3 times. The morale was, never do it while annoyed.... i kept doing dumber and dumber things (thats why i was killed 3 times in a row).
All you do is use Unguent, walk (as in no running skills) past them, using a Flatbow to lure the Skeletons (mainly because its arc is stupidly big so you have ages to turn) and run. More often than not the skeletons will stop chasing you and return back to a small group. But you'll find that if you go near to them again, they suddenly charge at you for no reason. If you havent guessed, they run straight into the Shadows and start having a nice scrap. so you can run by (you still get hit by the odd spell though, never had Deep Freeze come my way yet though).
Only failed the run 3 times. The morale was, never do it while annoyed.... i kept doing dumber and dumber things (thats why i was killed 3 times in a row).