What is wrong with people in this game? - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

29 May 2005 at 17:26 - 81

Some people just want to rush through (I dont know why... I love the graphics and sometimes just walk around town for an hour staring at them) and get it done... A perfect waste of time! When you're at the crystal desert at level 16, you're as good as dead (my own experience

).

And in every online game there are people who just are flat out ^Idiots^ (no offense) ((better yet full offense)) and they need to learn to grow up... Half the time people are typing "WTS 10 bones!!!!!!!!!1 Whisper me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!111" on the 'all' channel

Then I ask them politely to type that on the 'trade' channel and they start swearing at me and tell me I'm an idiot or something like that. Then I politely "accidentally" go to another district... And do it all over again!

ihmurria

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Canuckia

29 May 2005 at 18:55 - 82

I think it's how you see it, a lot of the 'problems' with people here. I mean, it's the internet, you can't expect everyone to be full of love and happiness 24/7 right? If you focus on all the traders spamming up the chat channel or the people who won't say thank you after a good mission, of course it's going to be depressing.

But what about ALL the people here who've said they do the complete opposite? I do a lot of it too, saying thank you but splitting right after that, answering questions I know the answers to but not the ones I have no clue about. I whisper the spammers to please keep it in the trade channel and they usually do, so I whisper thanks to them for it. I've whispered to a lot of people to come here or to gwonline if I don't know the answer to their question. I've told so many people to go hunting for charrs and trade them in with the collector in Ascalon instead of paying 400-800gp for one freakin fur. You get experience and other items that way.

There are some really good people out in GW too, so why not focus on what they've done to help you out instead? Get yourself a good guild, one that can help you out when you need help, even if it's something as silly as asking what the bonus is for the Frost Gate mission. There are plenty of wonderful people online, but if all you see are the bad ones then of course it'll make the game suck.

FelineFury

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

29 May 2005 at 18:58 - 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swarnt Brightstar

Then I ask them politely to type that on the 'trade' channel and they start swearing at me and tell me I'm an idiot or something like that. Then I politely "accidentally" go to another district... And do it all over again!

Weee sounds like fun

PhineasToke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

in a house

Phantom Menace

W/Mo

29 May 2005 at 19:17 - 84

I love the replies the guppies give, everyone is a dumbass, noob, gay or retard, even when you try to tell them not to rush into a fight and wait or give instructions. I also don't understand when in a party, members don't reply when you are trying to help. But, human nature being what it is, I guess we have to make choices who to help.

I also noticed too many players who reply when asked for help, "I play for myself". The new players deserve better than that.

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

29 May 2005 at 21:26 - 85

Quote:

Originally Posted by FelineFury

Weee sounds like fun

It is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much fun!

(On an unrelated note I finally got a mouse that doesnt jerk and freeze

... My old mouse would freeze up and jerk so I bought a new one with an optical thingermobobber

it's logitech)

Does anyone know the average amount of people playing guild wars that has headset/mouthpiece things

SOT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

East Texas

29 May 2005 at 21:28 - 86

People will be people, whether wearing skale panties or Charr bras

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

29 May 2005 at 22:56 - 87

lol

nice

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

W/Mo

30 May 2005 at 00:22 - 88

I generally agree that there are some real rude "Carbon Base Units" that play this game. Calling them humans or people is to generous. I always try to Play Nice online in this game. Politeness begets politeness. I will admit I have gone out with henchmen just to avoid any hassles, however in the higher missions/quests you really need other human players. I am going to keep a pen and paper handy more often and write down names of Rude,Foul,Offensive, Carbon Base Units and email and follow up with regular mail (Hand written letters have a power all to thier own). I will not stand and take that anymore. My daughter plays this game and she is in her mid-teens. She is not ignorant of such behavour(sp) however, I, as her father am PROTECTIVE. My daughter is a nice young lady (She doesn't like it when I use that term

) It is the truth though. And I am sure there are other younger players that do not need or want to hear/read that crap. They just want to have some fun. I do ask many players in my groups what thier ages are just to get an idea of who is playing this game. As to the minors that play it is up to the PARENTS to monitor thier game play(as with other things in thier young lives) To many parents just let them go at it without even sitting down with them while they play these types of games. And these "Parents are SHOCKED to read in the news that some young teen was murdered/raped,etc. I know everything that my children do on MY computers in my house. I do not need to be sneaky about it. I ask them for all thier passwords to all thier accounts. I spot check them. I have learned that they do not go where they are not suppose to go online. To many creeps out there and this game can be a Hunting Ground for those creeps. I know here on this forum there are very responsible/kind/helpful/caring people. With that in mind, keep an eye out for the vulnerable ones playing this game and teach them to protect themselves. Even go as far to have these young ones write down names of people that fall into the "creep" catagory.

With that said, I do not mean to sound like a member of the goverment in the book 1984 either. I am a firm believer in free speech and ALL that. The only way to curb this bad behavour in this game is to MARK these "Units" and let Arenanet know about it and force Arenanet to DO something about it. They have the Shut off Valve to stop these "people" (there I used that term) from playing. Maybe, then after these "people" realize that they lost $50.00 purchasing this game from thier own actions they will wake up and join the human race.

Spartan2

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

The Intarweb

Wrath of Nature [WoN]

E/Mo

30 May 2005 at 08:12 - 89

Old Warrior Dood, I feel the same way. I am 17 and I feel that the rude people in this game are completely ruining the experience of the game. I have taken it into my hands to help those that do not know about something whenever I am able; now, I am having to play "mom" ... I'm a guy

Well, let me put it this way: I started reporting people 2 days ago; since then, I have reported 4 people using 3 reports and 8 screenshots. This is becoming absurd. I dread walking into town now because, while I like a good portion of the community, there is also that pretty good chance to run into the low life, pond scum that plague the game community. I wish that this could change and I did not have to report people, but when someone is speaking of doing something sexually descriptive and I am trying unwind from a crappy day of crappiness, I do not want to hear it.

Maiyn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Canada

I Excentrix I [PuNK]

30 May 2005 at 10:21 - 90

I almost always answer questions for newer players.

I've also been incredibly surprised at the level of immaturity and rudeness that I've seen. I normally tell assholes off, someone has to... and I'm skilled in the delicate art of internet flaming

Hey! It's the only measure of social control we have!

edit, BTW -- I normally turn off local chat when people are being disgusting losers. I really can't stand stuff like that. I wish there was a button i could click to give them a little shock or something. Ooohh, man.. i'm a social psychology student so you can imagine how much I'd enjoy that

FluidFox

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2005

In a box with a Keyboard. (cst)

30 May 2005 at 10:25 - 91

Just remember, it is always a good idea to find people who are friendly and add them to your friend's list. Or better yet, join a guild of like minded individuals. With a little bit of social networking, you can avoid being bothered by people that are too selfish to answer a simple question.

Though I do have to admit that it is fun to completely verbally demolish somebody who is being a jerk in town. It won't keep them from being a jerk in the next town, but it makes you feel a lot better.

dl54

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

30 May 2005 at 13:31 - 92

two words

B-Net kiddies

nuff said

Lunarbunny

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Seattle, WA, USA [PST | GMT -8]

Ready and Willing [RAWR]

30 May 2005 at 22:54 - 93

Well, I try to be one of the few...I answer a lot of questions, although I do ignore the IM speak and "help me help me" messages most of the time.
I helped one newbie for 3 hours in pre-sear (about 10:30PM to 1:30AM)...that was a lot of work, but I had fun with it.
I try to keep proper grammar (it helps a lot when people can actually understand what you're typing), I avoid spamming, and I try to tell people to move it to the trade channel (hard when you have 5 people WTS on local in Lion's Arch).

WTB Rune of Superior Spam Killing.

Zorax

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Midgard

Church of Balthazar

E/Me

30 May 2005 at 23:08 - 94

Someone linked to Penny Arcade earlier. Here is another one from VG Cats, also from UT. It describes alot of people I've seen in GW as well:

VG Cats

Hand of Shiva

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Phoenix, AZ of the USA

Exalted of the Unconquered Sun

W/Mo

30 May 2005 at 23:17 - 95

Why is it that when I read about people reporting others for being rude, obnoxious, or swearing I find myself laughing? Do we as normal people see someone doing something rude, call 911 and go, "I'd like to report someone being rude at 18th st and union hills?" Of course not, we ignore it and we go on. Tell em to shut up or quit it or what ever but reporting it to ANet is like telling a cop that some dude have you the bird as he walked across the street. As for the language, there's a filter, want your kids to not see the cursing? turn it on! Leave ANet alone and let them take care of the more pressing matters, you know the ones that we all really care about, you know like more add ons, fixing bugs, fixing AI pathing, that kinda thing. If they spent all their time reading complaint emails about who did what to you and you'd like to have them disciplined well then they'd never get to anything. And maybe your thinking of saying, well its only a couple of emails, but if we all sent just a couple of emails, thats a ton they have to read through. So lets do something about it ourselves ingore the morons (since we also have the ability to use the ignore list as well as the friends list) and continue playing.

Just my two cents.

Zorax

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Midgard

Church of Balthazar

E/Me

30 May 2005 at 23:38 - 96

So you're saying you can't report racism, discrimination and other abuse to the police, or other departments, in the real world? I don't think anyone is reporting people for swearing a little here...

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

31 May 2005 at 18:47 - 97

One word on this

nice

Zilm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

31 May 2005 at 18:52 - 98

Quote:

Originally Posted by xakia

Well...someone wanted me to give them a good bit of gold for a url list of elite locations. (which i already had looked at, duh!) I ended that conversation with a "f**k and you jerk"

Real nice way to deal with people.

Chayton

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

31 May 2005 at 20:11 - 99

Well that problem is besides the monthly fee, the main reason why i have stayed so far away from only online games, and prefer singleplayer games over multiplayer.

I know that at first i will hardly answer to someone, as said i am new to the game and to the online stuff. So first i will learn everything and teach it to my sister. Which will be more shy than me and who will probably hate that part of the game. Once i am over that i think i am a person that would answer questions dont know.

Major problem on the european district at the first place is that everyone seems to talk in his/her first languege and so making a community gets hard i assume. And for yourself its probably very annoying to follow the chat, when always pits of french, italian, spanish etc interup it.

Zilm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

31 May 2005 at 21:01 - 100

It is a little silly how people are flaming about those who are flaming them they flame them. A never ending cycle of flame.

Just stop flaming, period. Be nice, if others dont just ignore them.

If we all stop retorting to the silly chat then the amount of crap rolling through the chat in common areas will slow up a bit. When the chat gets really bad I just turn it all off.

Find a good guild that helps one another. I love my guild. Made the game experience 10 times better.

trackxyj

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

31 May 2005 at 21:25 - 101

It is all about expectation thing. If you play a mmorpg with monthly fees, you expect fewer player, tight-knit community, etc. (dunno why i feel eq2 is a lesser "community-oriented" than daoc) If you play free ones, prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

So last night I was in ascalon trying to sell couple minor runes at 300 gp each, I finally saw someone yelling "100,000 gp for $15, verified paypal only!".

And I am not surprised.

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

31 May 2005 at 22:39 - 102

rofl

hahaha

that's funny...

$15-100,000gp

nice... wonderful community we have... rofl... paypal only... rofl...

Lord Yulath

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Canada

Arbiters of Ascalon

Me/Mo

01 Jun 2005 at 05:02 - 103

Well, personally, i love this game, but i have found just as many of you have pointed out, that people are very very selfish and or annoying. I created my own guild for friends, intelligent players and family. Not big but it means i dont have to worry about idiot guild members. I do however have to deal with people in the desert. It by far is the worst area in the game i have found. I dont know if it is purely because people are too busy doing their post accension quests or what, but i have found players who will leave at the drop of a hat, charge for healing, etc...

After about 2 hours of this bs, i quickly went back to old ascalon and helped people complete missions(with bonus) and gave out some free items that they could use.

Overall im happy with the community, im just not impressed with the community where i currently am.

Infernal Jawa

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Hawaii...

Unavaliable

N/Me

01 Jun 2005 at 05:05 - 104

guess who's back!? it's the mofo's from the last forum, hahahahaha!! thought you could escape us? well guess what! you cant! bwahahahahaha!!!!

Awol Duteq

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

01 Jun 2005 at 05:07 - 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Yulath

Well, personally, i love this game, but i have found just as many of you have pointed out, that people are very very selfish and or annoying. I created my own guild for friends, intelligent players and family. Not big but it means i dont have to worry about idiot guild members. I do however have to deal with people in the desert. It by far is the worst area in the game i have found. I dont know if it is purely because people are too busy doing their post accension quests or what, but i have found players who will leave at the drop of a hat, charge for healing, etc...

After about 2 hours of this bs, i quickly went back to old ascalon and helped people complete missions(with bonus) and gave out some free items that they could use.

Overall im happy with the community, im just not impressed with the community where i currently am.

Would be glad to help you out in the desert if you need it. I'm in no way guaranteeing success as it may mean a few pu's but I have a guild myself of good friends only. Started the clan/guild almost 4 years ago now and it's been strong value-wise ever since. I'm sure I could grab a few to come help out.

Awol Duteq - 20 rgr/mo
Femwol Duteq - 20 Mes/Ele
Femwol Twoteq - 12 Mo/Rgr

Look me up on one of those names if I'm on I'll gladly come help. The desert is annoying...its like the wall all the idiots run into and stop, plead, beg, whine, yell, harrass, and display as much limited vocabulary as possible to try and force their way through in frustration.

Infernal Jawa

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Hawaii...

Unavaliable

N/Me

01 Jun 2005 at 05:09 - 106

hey awol...i'm after you...

Drakron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

01 Jun 2005 at 05:12 - 107

Quote:

Originally Posted by trackxyj

...
... I finally saw someone yelling "100,000 gp for $15, verified paypal only!".

And I am not surprised.

Me neither, that dates well back to older MMORPGs, its a issues since at least Ultima Online.

Dont think because MMOPRGs usually have a monthly fee such thing do not happen, only thing that we hope its done is that the developer goes after such people and ban then and in playing MMORPGs its not something they want to do.

The advantage of Guild Wars is they dont depend on the monthy fee to support the game and so they can be more agressive in relation to banning that MMORPGs that are supported by a monthly fee.

Lord Yulath

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Canada

Arbiters of Ascalon

Me/Mo

01 Jun 2005 at 05:20 - 108

Quote:

Originally Posted by Awol Duteq

Would be glad to help you out in the desert if you need it. I'm in no way guaranteeing success as it may mean a few pu's but I have a guild myself of good friends only. Started the clan/guild almost 4 years ago now and it's been strong value-wise ever since. I'm sure I could grab a few to come help out.

Awol Duteq - 20 rgr/mo
Femwol Duteq - 20 Mes/Ele
Femwol Twoteq - 12 Mo/Rgr

Look me up on one of those names if I'm on I'll gladly come help. The desert is annoying...its like the wall all the idiots run into and stop, plead, beg, whine, yell, harrass, and display as much limited vocabulary as possible to try and force their way through in frustration.

Thanks, ill definetly look you up. I wont be on anymore tonight as im heading off to bed soon, but ill look you up tommorrow. I think once im done accending ill be able to find partys a bit better, it seems as if more people are doing post accension quests over the accension ones.

Thanks again.

xaanix

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2005

Woodbridge NJ

[Nu] Nuclear Launch Detected

W/E

01 Jun 2005 at 05:54 - 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marginal Propensity

The majority of the players appear to be selfish at first and offer no assistance what so ever. I could easily be wrong about this, but until I see otherwise I have no reason to believe in game players are willing to help other out.

Is the problem really with the community? or maybe with yourself? Perhaps you expect too much of your fellow gamer. Sure there are a few people willing to help out or answer questions here and there, but I think if you're expecting (or demanding) other people to help you, you're only going to be disappointed. People's time is valuable, (i know mine is) and they spend it in a way that they enjoy. That may or may not include helping newbies. Although i agree that a friendly and helpful community can foster community growth as a whole, the bottom line is that each player needs to take some responsibility and learn things on their own sometimes. If you have questions, forums and fansites are a boon of information, take the time and read a bit about the game, and dont expect people to hold your hand every step of the way.

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

01 Jun 2005 at 11:40 - 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by xaanix

Is the problem really with the community? or maybe with yourself? Perhaps you expect too much of your fellow gamer. Sure there are a few people willing to help out or answer questions here and there, but I think if you're expecting (or demanding) other people to help you, you're only going to be disappointed. People's time is valuable, (i know mine is) and they spend it in a way that they enjoy. That may or may not include helping newbies. Although i agree that a friendly and helpful community can foster community growth as a whole, the bottom line is that each player needs to take some responsibility and learn things on their own sometimes. If you have questions, forums and fansites are a boon of information, take the time and read a bit about the game, and dont expect people to hold your hand every step of the way.

Point... Still people can be really selfish and rude...

ie: last night I politely asked If someone could advertise their sales on the 'trade' channel... then the bloke (not saying any names but Tc Flame!!) started swearing at me and told me never to tell him what to do ever again!

I was so angry BUT I didnt swear back I "politely" put him on my 'ignore' list

xaanix

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2005

Woodbridge NJ

[Nu] Nuclear Launch Detected

W/E

01 Jun 2005 at 13:14 - 111

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swarnt Brightstar

Point... Still people can be really selfish and rude...

ie: last night I politely asked If someone could advertise their sales on the 'trade' channel... then the bloke (not saying any names but Tc Flame!!) started swearing at me and told me never to tell him what to do ever again!

I was so angry BUT I didnt swear back I "politely" put him on my 'ignore' list

I dont really think thats what the spirit of the thread is. But yeah you did the right thing.

StandardAI

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

K A R M A

01 Jun 2005 at 14:25 - 112

www.everquest2.com

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

01 Jun 2005 at 14:43 - 113

Quote:

Originally Posted by StandardAI

www.everquest2.com

... okay...

Infernal Jawa

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Hawaii...

Unavaliable

N/Me

03 Jun 2005 at 04:29 - 114

what does that mean??? everquest2.com? i can do that to... www.kingdomofloathing.com/ lol

Than

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

UGLY

Me/N

03 Jun 2005 at 05:43 - 115

Im just not seeing what to original poster is I guess. When someone asks a 'stupid' question theres usually two or three players, including myself, that answer it without the slightest bit of arrogance or insultingness.

Though jerks, in every aspect of life, are rather hard to avoid. And given the length of the thread I'm sure someones linked to that Penny Arcarde pic. proving that people behind the mask of the internet are a little more quick to the jackass contest.

Citizen_Nokarot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Washington D.C.

Five Nineteen [VXIX]

R/Mo

03 Jun 2005 at 06:14 - 116

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marginal Propensity

I have recently purchased Guild Wars and have enjoyed the gameplay by myself up to the level of 9. With the game being partially a MMO a new player such as myself should be able to ask questions about things which are not so common to the community around me and have people give some sort of helpfull response. I have played other MMOs in the past and in all of them the people around me were more than happy to help me out and answer my questions. With Guild Wars it is as though no one cares about anyone unless they are in their own guild. I can sit in a major town asking people simple questions without ever getting a response. Why?

Don't get me wrong this is a great game even though I have only played it for about a week now, but the community is making me want to quit already. The majority of the players appear to be selfish at first and offer no assistance what so ever. I could easily be wrong about this, but until I see otherwise I have no reason to believe in game players are willing to help other out.

Basically I want to get someone elses oppinion on this and find out if this is how it just is.

I think this is for some reason why it's not exactly classifed as an "MMORPG", and instead a "Competitive Online RPG". The lack of player interaction at times is pretty weird.

Lucky me that I ran in with a good crew from a different forum I went in to, and came into the game with a lot of people I knew. I do understand what you mean, though.. without a good group (and not just a random pick-up guild), it's really not great.

But I have to ask one thing.. Did you expect to get help from 'other players' (or 'non-guildmates') in "Guild Wars"? This game is centered around the guilds, both in interaction and in management. Can't really get anywhere without them, unless you want to play as a pickup henchmen in the tombs your whole life

..

Rhunex

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Dark Nightmare

E/

03 Jun 2005 at 07:03 - 117

Wow, I'm actually surprised at how mild some of the flames are here...usually a topic starting with " What is wrong with people in this game?" are flamed withiin 10 seconds with...strong words...

But if you seriously expect everyone to be nice to you, you need to learn a few things about life...and a lot of the ones I'm referring to can come from movies focused on New York where the people are selfish(those kinds of movies reflect the kind of attention you're getting from other people). You really shouldn't go on to an online game and expect everyone to help you, and a better game isn't defined by a better community(depending on what you define as better, I think the best game community is the Tribes one...not so many people think so because it's "small" pshaw to that!) so if you meet people who aren't going to help you, don't remain in the same place asking the same question. That irritates people, and the key to survival is not drawin attention to yourself...

Weezer_Blue

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just a Box in a Cage

Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]

03 Jun 2005 at 07:31 - 118

Some just don't know, others are busy with their own affairs, others are just lazy.

I, for one, answer any question I see being asked, if I know the answer... But many do not. Usually my messages are lost in a barrage of spam anyway.

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

03 Jun 2005 at 11:11 - 119

Yeah... I hate trade spam on the all 'channel'... it's so annoying....

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

03 Jun 2005 at 11:31 - 120

OK, I hereby decree I will spend two minutes everytime I start playing by going to a noob area and answer all questions I can, ask people using the all channel for WTS/WTB to use the trade channel, and report people in obvious violation of the EULA (e.g. selling gold).

I don't think it'll do any difference, but I'll do my bit.