Huge Nerf To Entire Game With New Patch

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Muke
Ascalonian Squire
#1
Just an FYI to anyone who doesn't know. Arena net has cut ALL drops in HALF *everywhere* in the game.

Don't believe me? Go solo anywhere. You'll begin noticing mobs about half the mobs not....dropping...anything....

You got what you asked for!!! MORE GRIND!!!!!! Oh wait....no one wanted that and all they do is keep making the grind longer............................................ .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...
Shadowsting
Shadowsting
Frost Gate Guardian
#2
Um...........no? I did a River run and only got a few guys who didn't drop anything
Madjik
Madjik
Lion's Arch Merchant
#3
its really not all that bad >.>
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Padre
Academy Page
#4
I was running around with a group in the desert quests and picked up an ungodly ammount of purple and gold items along the way after the new patch - if anything, they've increased those types of drops.

Either that or I suddenly got lucky
Selena_Lionheart
Selena_Lionheart
Lion's Arch Merchant
#5
Same with me, through two Kryta missions I got five runes, all minor, but they did all salvage to actual runes. Not bad for an hours work.
Phoenix Denfer
Phoenix Denfer
Frost Gate Guardian
#6
oh heavens... I just got a rune doing a Great Wall mission. LOL..in the entire time I have played GW's since the first weekend event.. I have NEVER gotten a rune or any interesting drops for that matter in the Fort Ranick Coop mission. This was my third rune today in post searing Ascalon.

Oh.. I don't think the drops are that bad now.
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Santosh
Academy Page
#7
Didn't notice any change in drop rate. Looks same to me.
Mistress Eyahl
Mistress Eyahl
Sir
#8
I got 5 purples farming in Nolani.. and I got a purple drop at the North Wall for christs sake!

WOOO!
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Muke
Ascalonian Squire
#9
Furthermore, they made mursaat do triple damage with spectral agony. Prepatch it did 3 damage a second. It now does 9.

Gentlemen this is fact from a guy who has every skill in the game with 4 classes (soon to be 6). There is no argument. You can say how you picked up a purple rune from your cousins friend bob at the docks by your house. I don't give a damn. They nerfed everyone. Do not take it lightly. You ARE HAVING TO GRIND LONGER. THAT IS A FACT. I hope the caps helped it sink in....I really do.
Mistress Eyahl
Mistress Eyahl
Sir
#10
Grind for what exactly.

Runes?

Lmgdfao
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Bobum
Ascalonian Squire
#11
Let the appeasement of the whiners begin...don't worry if you have no skill, we'll give you rune traders now, don't worry if you have no skill, we'll give you 4000 exp. now for a difficult but not impossible quest, don't worry if you have no skill, we'll give you easy access to elite skills now, don't worry if you have no skills, we'll take all the work out of making your character leet and just turn the game into a medieval/fantasy version of Unreal Tournament where everyone has access to the coolest stuff and we just kill each other all the time in PVP...yea...fun "RPG" guys...
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Ordas
Academy Page
#12
yeah, what are you grinding for exactly?
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Castanza
Academy Page
#13
I love how everyone reads the parts that they want to read and ignore the rest of what was said in the update

..."it is our intention to address the larger issue of the need for farming by assessing how players acquire and unlock items, runes, and skills, and then by taking steps to ensure that players can acquire and unlock these things through normal gameplay. We believe that the most effective way to play the game should also be the most fun way to play the game. You can expect to see the first meaningful changes towards this goal next week."

I hope those of you who are saying that there is going to be more grind now read that and understand what they are trying to do, they are going to be making the effort to get rid of the need to farm in order to unlock items in the game. this isn't going to happen all at once, but they are taking their time and doing it right, have some patience
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joeljermon
Ascalonian Squire
#14
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Originally Posted by Bobum
Let the appeasement of the whiners begin...don't worry if you have no skill, we'll give you rune traders now, don't worry if you have no skill, we'll give you 4000 exp. now for a difficult but not impossible quest, don't worry if you have no skill, we'll give you easy access to elite skills now, don't worry if you have no skills, we'll take all the work out of making your character leet and just turn the game into a medieval/fantasy version of Unreal Tournament where everyone has access to the coolest stuff and we just kill each other all the time in PVP...yea...fun "RPG" guys...
Oh, please. 4k exp for Galrath might be a bit overboard, but 500 wasn't enough - that quest takes a long time and you get no skills for it. Farming for runes and grinding for elites didn't take any skill either. The real skill of the game lies in the PvP. And they've actually made the PvE MORE challenging by decreasing the protection from Mursaat that infusion gives you.
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Bobum
Ascalonian Squire
#15
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Originally Posted by Castanza
they are going to be making the effort to get rid of the need to farm in order to unlock items in the game.
Why didn't they just make a mod for Unreal Tournament if they wanted to make a game that you didn't have to invest any time in to build a character up? With the latest patch - that seems to be the way they are leaning. They seem to be taking out the need to actually PLAY the game in order to build a good character. Just log in, you get the best stuff and go kill other players...sounds VERY much like most FPS's out there...mayber we shold start calling it GuildWars:CounterStrike
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joeljermon
Ascalonian Squire
#16
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Originally Posted by Bobum
Why didn't they just make a mod for Unreal Tournament if they wanted to make a game that you didn't have to invest any time in to build a character up? With the latest patch - that seems to be the way they are leaning. They seem to be taking out the need to actually PLAY the game in order to build a good character. Just log in, you get the best stuff and go kill other players...sounds VERY much like most FPS's out there...mayber we shold start calling it GuildWars:CounterStrike
The fact is that Guild Wars was advertised as emphasizing player skill over time spent. It needs to have a balance between an FPS and an RPG. Also, most of the people complaining about the grind (which is something guild wars isn't supposed to have) enjoyed playing through the PvE game the first time. The problem is the grind that comes afterwards.
proffbeer
proffbeer
Ascalonian Squire
#17
Castanza you forget something there, some people just what everything handed to them on a silver platter. So no matter what anet does there will be some people that whine about the grind, even if it only takes them 10 mins to make a, oh what the terms people use now, uber elite godly character.

But as far as drops, the only thing i noticed is the ettins outside beetletun don't have the same drop ratio they did have. Been farming the crap out of that area since yesterday
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Bobum
Ascalonian Squire
#18
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Originally Posted by joeljermon
Oh, please. 4k exp for Galrath might be a bit overboard, but 500 wasn't enough - that quest takes a long time and you get no skills for it.
Who said you had to do every quest out there????

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Originally Posted by joeljermon
Farming for runes and grinding for elites didn't take any skill either. The real skill of the game lies in the PvP. And they've actually made the PvE MORE challenging by decreasing the protection from Mursaat that infusion gives you.
I would agree and disagree with you here - Farming and grinding do take some measure of skill AND dedication to playing the game. Logging in and immidiately having an uber character to go PVP with, takes NO skill. You may as well go play Unreal Tournament if that's the kind of experience you want - why even try playing a game where you build and customize your character if you just want it to be like everyone else with the exact same high level armor ans skills that everyone else has? They are taking out the idea of building YOUR character by YOU playing and just turning it into anyone of the myriad of FPS's out there.
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Castanza
Academy Page
#19
well i agree that yes it seems that they are going to make it easier to get your charcter the good stuff in the game, but that really shouldn't matter this game is totally based off skill and not who has the best armor and weapons, A-net wants people to be more focused on using their skill and not trying to find some uber weapon that gives them an advantage, which doesn't exist in this game. I love what someone said in a post i read earlier about guild wars, " guild wars lets you eat the carrot it doesn't daingle it infront of you in order for you to chase after it.
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Creston
Lion's Arch Merchant
#20
"I hope those of you who are saying that there is going to be more grind now read that and understand what they are trying to do, they are going to be making the effort to get rid of the need to farm in order to unlock items in the game. this isn't going to happen all at once, but they are taking their time and doing it right, have some patience "

I would have done that the other way around. Make those changes first, then do the nerfs they just did. Maybe that's just too logical...

Creston