Level 3's & Ascension

Am I the only one who think tihs is totally wrong, cheesy and should be stopped? There's a reason there's a PVP template. If people want to be instant 20, there it is. Ya I get my own copy of the game each time I walk out of town, but it still sickens me to hear of these characters leeching their way to Ascenion trials at character levels as low as 3.

I did post a complaint about this to the GW support and was told to post on a forum, so here I am Here's what I offically had to say:

As a PvE primarily player, I'm quite distressed by the fact many people have found a loophole to Ascending. I'm hearing of numerous reports of EXTREMELY low level characters, like lvl 3s being at Ascension trials. I'm also concerned that players are paying higher level characters to escourt them through Lornar's Pass to purchase level 20 armor at low levels.

Ascension is supposed to mean something. And it cheapens the game to have these loopholes. Can it be made so that you have to ACTUALLY Ascend to get to Droknars. Close the pass please. And it ruins the Pve enviroment that low levels are getting this stuff so early and benefitting from friends carrying them to the desert. Can there be a level requirement to Ascension trials, and check the entire party, not just the leader. People are slipping through by joining parties and leeching




Is this really asking too much. I mean, it really does cheapen the play in my opinion, to know that I spent hours going through the game as it was meant to be played and someone else can come along and just skip through it all and get the same benefit. Kinda takes the importance out of Ascenion in my opinion.

At the end of the day, though, these people are really only cheating themselves by lessening their own experience and enjoyment of the game.

Why should people have to ascend anyway ? This game is linear enough already without forcing people to do more things in a set pattern. If somebody makes it to ascension at lvl 3, then good for them; it doesn't spoil my fun. It's not like being lvl 20 actually means anything, the game barely starts before then anyway. Lets face it, anybody doing this has probably already ascended once, so why force them to repeat the same linear, repetetive quests ?

Also, there are still other things to consider, even having hit lvl 20. You still need cash to buy armour, and you won't have any skills because you skipped all the skill quests.

Seriously, in a game where it is easy for almost anybody to get to the top level fairly quickly, what does it matter is a few take shortcuts ? The way I see it, the only people missing out are those that don't bother doing all the content they've paid for.

And if they complain about being bored and they have lvl20 characters, then don't reply to them, it's there fault for wanting to complete the game too quickly.

True. Though in a way it does impact other players. Especially those who PvP.

After all, is it really fair for a lvl 10 character to go into a team arena with lvl 20 armor? And skills bought in high level areas that other wont have access to.

This game is about balance, and this imbalances it.

Oh, and sorry if I put this is the wrong forum, I'm still fairly new here and its a HUGE forum.

I know its not a huge deal, since I primarily play with guildmates or henchmen, or the few people I've met in random groups I keep in touch with. But still.

There's a roleplaying character and a pvp character. I dont think it's really roleplaying to instant zap to Ascension. Not that I expect D&D quality roleplay from this game. It's just the point I suppose. ArenaNet has already made things SO painless, it doesnt seem to much to ask.

Or maybe just put level requirments on the armor.

Is it fair for a level 10 to have Uber weapons passed from their alt? doesn't that unbalance things too. Take a breath. This is a game, it will never be perfectly fair. Kind of like life. And a reason no one should feel better than anyone else because of an win in a game.

And again true, people can pass items off. I even share finds with other characters and friends. But there are also requirements on those items.

Maybe just making level requirments on the armors would help. And ya, I know it's just a game, and most of these people dont directly affect me.

I think my overall concern was overall balance. No, everything wont always be fair. But in a game where things are already so open to the palyers with minimal "grind", it just doesnt seem like much to ask.

And I'd never let an extremely low level in a team with me, so those leeching wont affect me directly either.

The level 3 ascention allows people to skip some grind. Therefore I like it. If the PvP templates had everything they needed, then I'd wouldn't really like this kind of exploit, but right now they're making the game better.

heh the only reason I dont mind is because these 'level 20's' will have next to no skills (either 'real' skills or character skills) due to not getting used to the character and so are easy to beat in pvp lol. Good luck to them, they're not playing the game, not getting the full experience... well tough luck.

For people who do this on their 2nd/3rd/4th char howver I can see the attraction. After doing it all once through its pretty monotonous, with only the new skills for your new class to break the mould. But on your first char its pretty cheap

I ascended my first character the way A.Net wanted me to.

Now, I have a lvl 7 monk who has done dunes and is waiting for Elona and Thirsty.

I don't like playing fedex missions all over again to get the skills i need. Not worth it at all. Once I reach 20, I can easily do the skill quests, run to all the outposts I missed, and complete missions fast.

I can also respec into smiting for good farming times.

The people who are rushing are most likely in guilds very active in PvP. They need the skills to be competetive. Taking away this rushing ability forces us to play through the game numerous times just to get the skills we need, it's tedious and will cause a mass exodus of PvPers.

We really would't have to rush if A.Net allowed UAS for PvP. (Then we'd all just make Mo/Ws and farm the hell out of stuff until some moron posted it on the forums and got it nerfed)

The people who do it probobly don't care about playing random lvl 10 arenas to show off lvl 20 armor. They are more interested in getting those additional 17 skill points and loads of attrib. points right away.

If people rush just to get lvl 20 gear and good skills, then do lvl 10 arena, they are pretty pathetic. (Hopes nobody in my guild does this)

I'm willing to bet most (probably even all) these people have already been through the story at least once, if not more than once and are being hurried through by guildmates. If thats the case, I can completely understand why they'd want to rush through the game and get down to unlocking skills. Having to play through the game three or more times also kinda takes the importance out of Ascension, and frankly, doing the same quests over and over is bound to drive anyone mad.

Oh, and the PvP templates a) aren't terribly useful in PvP and b) Can't unlock anything.

OK here is the deal. I am one of those people who has ascended a low level character. not to cheat the game lol but because i have already finished the game with my first character. why should i be foreced to do all the mission 3 times so i can ascend all 3 of my characters?

that is the beauty of this game, it is not linear and you have tons of chioces as to how you want to make your character. by the way after ascension you go straight to level 20 and can warp back and get all the skills you missed out on. I do no understand how it is that you whould be able to dictate game play to others that have already done all the missions and quests on 1 character.

when and if you ever finish the game on one and want to do 2 more so you have all professions inlocked so you can make whatever PvP character you want to, i have a feelingyou will feel differently. and if not well then have fun doing all the missions and quests 3 times.

it is actually a challenge to see if you can get to dunes at a low level. i do not count on people to run me as i do it myself. it takes skill to get there this way. I could care less what others want to do with thei gameplay but i am not going to sit for hours and hours repeating mission i have alraedy done.

if yo do not like it then go to a more linear game where everyone has to do the same mission over and over and over.

now go and find something meaningful to post

Just as a small reply, But I HAVE finished the game. Ascended and completed the Ring of Fire. So thats a large assumption that I'm whining because others found a loophole.

And I'm currently playing 2 other characters through, one on her Ascension trials and another in Maguma.

And it didnt take all that long, plus I dont have to go BACK and do things. Doing them in order, just seems....logical to me. And considering you can walk to places without missions, its not that much to ask I would think.

You can cross the Shiverpeaks without doing any of the missions and fighting your way through. But to instant zap from 3 to 20 just seems wrong to me.

No need to get hostile about it.

then that is your choice, have fun i however choose not to do the missions each 3 times. you have your way and i have mine that is the beauty of this game.

i will see you in augery at level 4

and one more thing to add. I am not getting hostile i just do not lie your arrogance in thinking you can dictate game play to others. if it is your choice to do all missions 3 times then go for it i will not complain that you are. but for you to try and gt Anet to make it so we all have to do it your way is arrogant and assinine.

if the "logic" is lost on you that we should not need to do it all over and over and over then i am sorry, but play your way and let others play theirs it has absolutely no effect on you wether i ascend at leve 3 or level 103 does it?

I suppose Arena Net doesnt have to take the suggestion. Offering a suggestion doesnt make me arrogant I thought....

Not everyone plays for the PVP aspect.

Perhaps they could put in some other fix. Some other way. Rather then do all the missions allow for players to explore their way to 20.

But going 3 to 20 instantly, in any game, to me is just wrong.

I understand the "grind" of the missions. I understand that some people want to skip all that after going through once.

But the point I was trying to focus on was people going from 3 to 20 instantly. Having access to all the best skills, and armor with little to no work.

When it only takes a couple days or so to get to 20 anyway, what is the big deal with earning those levels. And if its to unlock all the skills for pvp, thats easy enough with one character. Ascended then do Heroes and unlock to your heart's content.

ArenaNet has already made this game so open and easy for so many people. Why is it such a hard thing to ask to earn those levels that arent so hard to get in the first place, when compared to other MMORPG's, that GW is trying to be different from.

ascend correctly once, and then after that i dont care how you ascend

exactly my point. if Anet wants to make it so that you have to finish the game with 1 character before you can "run" your other characters through that is fine with me, however the idea have having to"level" your character over and over is not what this game is all abuot (hence you only have 20 levels)

and to your point you cna only unlock skill of your professions OF THAT PARITCULAR CHARACTER!!!.

you cannot finish the game then unlock all skills of all characters you ahve to make 2 more of the other 4 professions in ordoer to unlock them all. I do it for PvP and no other reason. i finished the game on my first character and did every mission and quest. if once is enough for me no one else should be bothered by it.

and yes trying to say it whould not be allowed is arrogant, saying your way is the only way it should be is arrongant.

I WILL SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME.

no one is whining that you do all the missions for your characters so stop whining about the way others want to play their secondary characters.

You can change professions after Ascenion if you do Heroes quest, thus unlocking skills for every single class in the game with ONE character.

i am sorry to tell you that if you change professions you lose all the skills you unlocked for that profession.

in order to have all 6 professions you must have 3 characters. there is no other way my friend.