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your idea is very interesting however
an actual possible solution rather than a simple its easy to do
what about adding a few additional event hair styles as well as hats as well?
Idea: Stylist NPC (Possible Money sink)
Loviatar
your idea is very interesting however
an actual possible solution rather than a simple its easy to do
what about adding a few additional event hair styles as well as hats as well?
mikkel
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since nobody knows how it is set up everything is speculation.
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your idea is very interesting however
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You're a terribly strange person, Loviatar.
thunderai
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Are we to understand this as admission that your 23 pages of telling people that they're wrong is actually all speculation, and that you have no verifiable information to substantiate the claims you've been making? That seems like a sharp U-turn from your previous position.
This is also a very obvious solution. It's astonishing to me that you hadn't thought of this once through all of this. Solutions like those are implied when saying that it should be a trivial problem to work around. You're a terribly strange person, Loviatar. |
We should be all grown up and not be terribly insulting either. I swear Guild Wars has gotten more rude and grude each day. Was it ever a civilized place?
Has anyone ever suggested to the programmers to replace hair with hats. Hats cover up hair which is part of the model to begin with. a New hat style would just overlay the hair. or like i said, remove hair model completly and make it a hat.
I'd love to hear from a real programmer that works on the database and programs the special events how this cant be implemented.
Loviatar
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no reversal at all as i have been stating what was posted by Gaile not making up my own ideas up on how easy it would be
and even more astonishing that you the self proclaimed expert did not dazzle us with it.
it is wonderful that you claim to have already thought of it.
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Are we to understand this as admission that your 23 pages of telling people that they're wrong is actually all speculation, and that you have no verifiable information to substantiate the claims you've been making? That seems like a sharp U-turn from your previous position.
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it is wonderful that you claim to have already thought of it.
Neriandal Freit
Enough with the two of you, seriously.
Me, like many other here, do not understand how it is not possible when we create a character that you can not alter the hair of a character. The hair is the same as armor, it's a part of you. Thus, the armor and weapons are constantly being changed around and placed onto a character. There is every bit of the possblility that this can happen very easily. I do not see how it can't.
Now, with the two of your bickering - it's getting quiet old I'm sorry. It's very fun and amusing to many of us, but seriously, let it go you two. Neither one of you are going to out debate the other unless you get more people on one side, and to be honest it's appearing that more are leaning towards Mikkel's then Loviatars, but this is just over some observation so I won't say that for sure.
Continue this show if you must, but do understand you both are perverting this thread - which was originally intended to be more of a poll and "Hear Us!" thread. Yes yes, I know, Gaile has said they supposedly can't do this. I say we can considering what they (ANET) do every day (again, armor and weapons), and I respect the quoting of everything, but it is possible Loviatar. Armor is saved onto the database as the core of a character untill said person changes that characters armor and thus changes that accounts armor, and is wrote over again. This can be done with hair styling. Hair is but another head piece for us.
None the less, the two of you will continue this I'm sure with no reguard to many posts but continuing this onslaught of bickering. Your both even, both respectable online forum debaters, but really, where is this getting any of us?
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To end this conversation once and for all with the both of you, I present to you a post from Billard in the "Community Day Dev Roundtable Dicussion" thread.
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Debate over. They are working on it, no time table is set and placed. This is something that is possible and is rolling into effect.
Me, like many other here, do not understand how it is not possible when we create a character that you can not alter the hair of a character. The hair is the same as armor, it's a part of you. Thus, the armor and weapons are constantly being changed around and placed onto a character. There is every bit of the possblility that this can happen very easily. I do not see how it can't.
Now, with the two of your bickering - it's getting quiet old I'm sorry. It's very fun and amusing to many of us, but seriously, let it go you two. Neither one of you are going to out debate the other unless you get more people on one side, and to be honest it's appearing that more are leaning towards Mikkel's then Loviatars, but this is just over some observation so I won't say that for sure.
Continue this show if you must, but do understand you both are perverting this thread - which was originally intended to be more of a poll and "Hear Us!" thread. Yes yes, I know, Gaile has said they supposedly can't do this. I say we can considering what they (ANET) do every day (again, armor and weapons), and I respect the quoting of everything, but it is possible Loviatar. Armor is saved onto the database as the core of a character untill said person changes that characters armor and thus changes that accounts armor, and is wrote over again. This can be done with hair styling. Hair is but another head piece for us.
None the less, the two of you will continue this I'm sure with no reguard to many posts but continuing this onslaught of bickering. Your both even, both respectable online forum debaters, but really, where is this getting any of us?
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Thanks the info first,
I have a question about changing our characters' appearance. This topic was mentioned many times before. Some players would pay their game money or cash to change their char's something. Will we have chances to change our exist characters' hair, skin and face? |
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This was asked of the Devs and they said they know players want this. It seemed to me that this was something they were working on, but no time table had been set as of yet for offering it.
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S1CKS
Hey Guys
this is a either support it or dont support it forum, an admin should be deleting these posts or what not since this is not a debate forum as to whether or not Anet CAN make this happen or CAN'T, it is also NOT a forum for debating how they have our characters set up on our house computer or their databases...... WHO CARES!!!!
If they could figure out a safe way to do this we support it... or dont for those of you that dont.. if you would like to discuss the possibility of them being able to accomplish this goal, would there not be a better forum for it?? lol
/signed
once again as I did above i support this idea, i dont see how the change could cause major problems... specially if they make it ONLY ones we could previously choose before, only the pre created colors and only the pre created styles, but the ability to modify that. So if i had purple hair before changing the color to an already preset one cant be that big of deal. i'm not a programmer and could be very wrong.. and for those of you that are gratz lol, but once again this isnt' a debate lol its a support or dont
/support
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this is a either support it or dont support it forum, an admin should be deleting these posts or what not since this is not a debate forum as to whether or not Anet CAN make this happen or CAN'T, it is also NOT a forum for debating how they have our characters set up on our house computer or their databases...... WHO CARES!!!!
If they could figure out a safe way to do this we support it... or dont for those of you that dont.. if you would like to discuss the possibility of them being able to accomplish this goal, would there not be a better forum for it?? lol
/signed
once again as I did above i support this idea, i dont see how the change could cause major problems... specially if they make it ONLY ones we could previously choose before, only the pre created colors and only the pre created styles, but the ability to modify that. So if i had purple hair before changing the color to an already preset one cant be that big of deal. i'm not a programmer and could be very wrong.. and for those of you that are gratz lol, but once again this isnt' a debate lol its a support or dont
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mikkel
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no reversal at all as i have been stating what was posted by Gaile not making up my own ideas up on how easy it would be |
Everything you have been saying is speculation based on unverifiable information, yet you feel it appropriate to deal in absolutes when explaining the technical feasibility of the feature, based on this unsubstantiated evidence, even in the face logical and undeniable evidence to the contrary
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and even more astonishing that you the self proclaimed expert did not dazzle us with it.
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I explained to you in great detail earlier in this thread how, if the character database was locked down, it would take an intermediate and superseding changable data set to replace this information in order for a character to be able to change their appearance.
Armour is an intermediate and superseding changable data set. It is applied onto the drawn composite model, changing, among other things, the hair.
When I explained this to you, you promptly dismissed it, citing a completely irrelevant claim made by Gaile. Now you're presented with the same information in a dumbed down way that is easier to relate to for the average player, you consider it a completely new idea.
No, I am not a self-proclaimed expert. I have it on paper that I am qualified to make the statements that I am making.
Yes, I did "dazzle" you with it, but apparently I made the critical mistake of assuming that someone who felt sure enough of his comprehension of computing to make claims as outrageous as the ones you were making would understand how one could apply a simple, fundamental and very common method of altering data, without needing to have it explained in layman's terms.
How is it that you persist in arguing an illogical and, by definition and principle, fundamentally inaccurate point when so many people are telling you how it just isn't right?
I'm not terribly interested in keeping this discussion going.
MithranArkanere
A 'read only' data entry in a database can be changed to 'read/write'. A new database can be made and data can be moved with automated processes.
Suggestions is are not about 'what can be done' they are about 'what people wants to be done'.
Leave the final decision to developers. If it can't be done, they'll say that in that or another thread, then the moderators close new similar threads saying something like 'already suggested and discarded' or even adding the link to the thread.
That is, if you are not working for Anet and have no access to the developers and the code, forget about the system, center in the idea.
If you have access to the code not being in ANet, we have a problem here... police is going to your house, mate.
The idea is:
"Add an NPC that allows partial changes in physical appearance of the characters"
Nothing else.
You like? Give it a good vote in the thread rating.
You don't like it? Give a bad vote, and say why you don't like it.
Have more ideas about it? Add them! Go ahead!
You are possitive it can't be done? You work for ANet.
You don't wor for ANet? Stop trying to make yourself important and talking about something you don't know.
Once they say it can't be done, moderators will care about that, closing threads with 'impossible' suggestions, based on previous data, and punishing those who keep ignoring the important threads, warnings and such.
In other words: "Think before typing".
Going back to the idea:
- Change Hair Styles.
- Dye hair, maybe allowing the use of dyes on hair.
- Use some hair styles of other classes when possible.
- Accesories: earrings, bandanas, hair garments...
Currently, the accesories are linked to the haris styles and armors.
They could be unlinked. So you can have a monk with the Canthan Earrings wearing the Shing Jea armor.
Suggestions is are not about 'what can be done' they are about 'what people wants to be done'.
Leave the final decision to developers. If it can't be done, they'll say that in that or another thread, then the moderators close new similar threads saying something like 'already suggested and discarded' or even adding the link to the thread.
That is, if you are not working for Anet and have no access to the developers and the code, forget about the system, center in the idea.
If you have access to the code not being in ANet, we have a problem here... police is going to your house, mate.
The idea is:
"Add an NPC that allows partial changes in physical appearance of the characters"
Nothing else.
You like? Give it a good vote in the thread rating.
You don't like it? Give a bad vote, and say why you don't like it.
Have more ideas about it? Add them! Go ahead!
You are possitive it can't be done? You work for ANet.
You don't wor for ANet? Stop trying to make yourself important and talking about something you don't know.
Once they say it can't be done, moderators will care about that, closing threads with 'impossible' suggestions, based on previous data, and punishing those who keep ignoring the important threads, warnings and such.
In other words: "Think before typing".
Going back to the idea:
- Change Hair Styles.
- Dye hair, maybe allowing the use of dyes on hair.
- Use some hair styles of other classes when possible.
- Accesories: earrings, bandanas, hair garments...
Currently, the accesories are linked to the haris styles and armors.
They could be unlinked. So you can have a monk with the Canthan Earrings wearing the Shing Jea armor.
Remes
I LOVE this idea, I would seriously appreciate ATLEAST a hair style changer. My male elementalist's, who happens to be my main, hair DRIVES ME CRAZY.. I liked it when I made him but now it annoys me. So if A Net could find it in their boundless mercy to allow for this one NPC, I would be eternally grateful ^_^.
*Alexiel*
I think being able to change your characters hair (possibly face too) after creation is one of the best things Anet could add to the game. It seems such a popular idea, I really don't see any reason not to do it-ALOT of players seem so keen, why not make them happy?
Its a goal Anet always strive to achieve afterall, so I simply don't see one reason why this shouldn't be added.
I think the idea of having a stylist for these changes Is good; Paying a couple of platinum for it would perhaps be more realistic than Anet simply giving a way to access the creation screen again with your character. But I'm seriously not fussy how its done, I have just restarted way too many characters because simply get bored of their hair -.-;;
I think certain campaigns give better face choices than others for different professions, and same for hair styles.
So, if this ever DID get implemented, I think it'd be awesome if you had the option to give say, a prophecies mesmer a canthan hair style.
I think many of the canthan hairstyles look oriental influenced-fitting with the scenery of Factions, so canthan hairstyles could be granted by a local stylist in large towns such as Kaineng city; and maybe you could only access Nightfall hairstyles from Kamadan/Kodash Bazaar/any large town within Elona? Same with Tyria-Tyrian Hairstyles available from towns such as Lions Arch and Ascalon City.
New hairstyles just availble from the stylist would of course be ace too ^-^
So yeah, definitely:
/signed
Its a goal Anet always strive to achieve afterall, so I simply don't see one reason why this shouldn't be added.
I think the idea of having a stylist for these changes Is good; Paying a couple of platinum for it would perhaps be more realistic than Anet simply giving a way to access the creation screen again with your character. But I'm seriously not fussy how its done, I have just restarted way too many characters because simply get bored of their hair -.-;;
I think certain campaigns give better face choices than others for different professions, and same for hair styles.
So, if this ever DID get implemented, I think it'd be awesome if you had the option to give say, a prophecies mesmer a canthan hair style.
I think many of the canthan hairstyles look oriental influenced-fitting with the scenery of Factions, so canthan hairstyles could be granted by a local stylist in large towns such as Kaineng city; and maybe you could only access Nightfall hairstyles from Kamadan/Kodash Bazaar/any large town within Elona? Same with Tyria-Tyrian Hairstyles available from towns such as Lions Arch and Ascalon City.
New hairstyles just availble from the stylist would of course be ace too ^-^
So yeah, definitely:
/signed
Kratos Angel
For this I don't think hairstylists should offer new hairstyles, just the existing ones would be great, you can change your armor to one of the new games, so why couldn't you change your hair ? Even little free games such as Flyff (Fly for Fun) grant you to change your hair as you wish.
Predator [CD]
Great idea.
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Zavulon Shadow
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i hate hair my monk =)))
i hate hair my monk =)))
Grimreaper23
I am totally for this since currently I want to delete my first character ever because I don't like his hair and his name.. I worked really hard on him and I want to buy 15k kurzick armor for him (alot for me) but I don't like the name or the way he looks so I am defiantly for this one!!! Anet pull through for us on this one..../Signed
~Grim
~Grim
Perfected Shadow
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also add being able to go back to the char creation screen for some platinum or whatever
also add being able to go back to the char creation screen for some platinum or whatever
MithranArkanere
Yup. Old players with 2 years old characters should have the right to use the brand new hair styles.
You could even have different stylists in each campaing, so you'll have to travel to Kamadan to give your Tyrian Female Warrior an Elonian hair style.
You could even have different stylists in each campaing, so you'll have to travel to Kamadan to give your Tyrian Female Warrior an Elonian hair style.
Etta
Yeah even roller beetles can have a new paintwork on their shell! I need a new shiny hair do as well, cos I'm worth it!
*Alexiel*
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Yup. Old players with 2 years old characters should have the right to use the brand new hair styles.
You could even have different stylists in each campaing, so you'll have to travel to Kamadan to give your Tyrian Female Warrior an Elonian hair style. |
Hope so much this happens, I stupidly deleted my 9 month old tyrian mesmer ages ago for a longer canthan hairstyle (though i wasnt as keen on their faces compared to prophecies ones admittedly) and she would of had a birthday present by now, but alas, I needed the character slot! Couldn't buy them at that point =(
stylist pleassseee!
Amiable
In lineage 2 you could buy potions premade, example: hair potion A, would make the first choice of your character screen, hair color b would make the second etc..
That's just one thing, another thing I want is the ability to use all the hair colours, styles, skins, faces, of all the 3 campaigns no matter where you start. (If this seems too large, as in loads of hair styles stacking up in creation screen, make it possible to create a canthan character for example and make him start in tyria). Honestly they implement things in the storyline such as Mhenlo being a tyrian and was raised in cantha to study at the shing jea monastery or something like that. Mhenlo is a hero, we are all suppose to be heroes too. What's keeping my supposedly ingame parents from shipping me to elona from cantha or elona to tyria etc..
GG
That's just one thing, another thing I want is the ability to use all the hair colours, styles, skins, faces, of all the 3 campaigns no matter where you start. (If this seems too large, as in loads of hair styles stacking up in creation screen, make it possible to create a canthan character for example and make him start in tyria). Honestly they implement things in the storyline such as Mhenlo being a tyrian and was raised in cantha to study at the shing jea monastery or something like that. Mhenlo is a hero, we are all suppose to be heroes too. What's keeping my supposedly ingame parents from shipping me to elona from cantha or elona to tyria etc..
GG
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[M]agna_[C]arta
Please Anet Implement this^^!
Mercyful Fate
Whether or not new features are included, I'd love to be able to change hair/face/height styles from an NPC in-game.
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-MF
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-MF
Neriandal Freit
Face and Height are a massive no-no.
Think about it this way - we are born with a predetermined hight and facial feature, structure and so forth when we hit puberty and we grow up.
Yet, in life, we can still change (with ease) only one thing that was predetermined and has been changed often for millenia's in are world: Hair.
Hair can be up, down, little to the left or little to the right. It can be red, brown, blonde, black, some where in between each of those colors. It can be white or gray too. We can even dye it to "Extremes" and make it blue, purple, red as a leaf or orange as a pumpkin (those come in white too!)
Our height and facial features? Those we can not change. Those who do change those in our world are insane...but that's another topic of course.
Basically, I'm totally against changing the height and facial feature of a character. We can't do it here, so why do it there?
Think about it this way - we are born with a predetermined hight and facial feature, structure and so forth when we hit puberty and we grow up.
Yet, in life, we can still change (with ease) only one thing that was predetermined and has been changed often for millenia's in are world: Hair.
Hair can be up, down, little to the left or little to the right. It can be red, brown, blonde, black, some where in between each of those colors. It can be white or gray too. We can even dye it to "Extremes" and make it blue, purple, red as a leaf or orange as a pumpkin (those come in white too!)
Our height and facial features? Those we can not change. Those who do change those in our world are insane...but that's another topic of course.
Basically, I'm totally against changing the height and facial feature of a character. We can't do it here, so why do it there?
Soul Within
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Yup. Old players with 2 years old characters should have the right to use the brand new hair styles.
You could even have different stylists in each campaing, so you'll have to travel to Kamadan to give your Tyrian Female Warrior an Elonian hair style. |
Cathode_Reborn
If it's really been confirmed that none of these features are possible, it'd be nice if a mod could just close the thread since there wouldn't be a point to getting more people to sign.
DarkCloudInc
/Signed
Hair and skin tone, i.e. tanning and lightening, is definitely something I would strongly desire in this game.
Hair and skin tone, i.e. tanning and lightening, is definitely something I would strongly desire in this game.
Peter Panic
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Basically, I'm totally against changing the height and facial feature of a character. We can't do it here, so why do it there? |
btw, totally /signed
*Alexiel*
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we can change it there bc its a video game. its not real life, y try to make it? this is a fictional game, if u compare it to real life, y not go all the way? if u die, dont worry, theres a rez shrine right over there, or better yet, one of ur buddies might hae rez sig? my point is that if we can use magic and rise people from the dead over and over again, why complain about being able to change how tall one of u characters is? after all, who even cares what his face looks like, he can do magic!!
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Deadly SiNs
/signed
I think new hairstyles+colours would be pretty awesome ^^;
I think new hairstyles+colours would be pretty awesome ^^;
Envious
I really like this idea.
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Neriandal Freit
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we can change it there bc its a video game. its not real life, y try to make it? this is a fictional game, if u compare it to real life, y not go all the way? if u die, dont worry, theres a rez shrine right over there, or better yet, one of ur buddies might hae rez sig? my point is that if we can use magic and rise people from the dead over and over again, why complain about being able to change how tall one of u characters is? after all, who even cares what his face looks like, he can do magic!!
btw, totally /signed |
Yes, I know, it's "fantasy game!". But, all 'fantasy' is reality to some extent. You can change your height by magic, sure, but come on, let's be real here. In the world of guildwars, there isn't a Wizard is there? We have Elementalist and Mesmers, and people who those who can raise the dead (over, and over.), with a few who raise the undead.
One of the reasons why this game is so liked is because of this 'reality' there is with it. The 'reality' is we can't change our height in this reality. Like I stated before, we can go as natural in our hair or as extreme as a pumpkin in our hair. We can bend it and shape it to about any extreme we want.
Yet, we can't change our height at will can we? That's why we have a bar on the right side of the screen from really small, to (in my opinion) normally tall. Thats the one and only chance you get to change something like that. Let's not begin to implement something to that extreme in this game, reguardless if it is a fantasy or not. Dungeons and Dragons Online might have a Wizard who could do something like that, I don't know. But you won't find that here in Guildwars.
Lumen
I'd like a change every once in a while.
/signed.
/signed.
Lord-UWR
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this is a must in the game, and it has been suggested before MANY MANY TIMES. Everytime Gaile appears, this is the first thing that is asked, so she has developed the habit of settling this first by saying: "No News on Hair or Face Stylist, etc."
Also, it has been confirmed that this is on schedule to be added, but not in the immediate tomorrow.
this is a must in the game, and it has been suggested before MANY MANY TIMES. Everytime Gaile appears, this is the first thing that is asked, so she has developed the habit of settling this first by saying: "No News on Hair or Face Stylist, etc."
Also, it has been confirmed that this is on schedule to be added, but not in the immediate tomorrow.
FelixCarter
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Simply put, it's ignorant if you want to go to that extreme. Find a game that lets you do that if you want that.
Yes, I know, it's "fantasy game!". But, all 'fantasy' is reality to some extent. You can change your height by magic, sure, but come on, let's be real here. In the world of guildwars, there isn't a Wizard is there? We have Elementalist and Mesmers, and people who those who can raise the dead (over, and over.), with a few who raise the undead. One of the reasons why this game is so liked is because of this 'reality' there is with it. The 'reality' is we can't change our height in this reality. Like I stated before, we can go as natural in our hair or as extreme as a pumpkin in our hair. We can bend it and shape it to about any extreme we want. Yet, we can't change our height at will can we? That's why we have a bar on the right side of the screen from really small, to (in my opinion) normally tall. Thats the one and only chance you get to change something like that. Let's not begin to implement something to that extreme in this game, reguardless if it is a fantasy or not. Dungeons and Dragons Online might have a Wizard who could do something like that, I don't know. But you won't find that here in Guildwars. |
If you're arguing that the faces and height change are unrealistic however, then your logic is flawed. I know people that's facial appearance has changed drastically over 2 years. I also know a lot of friends that grow fast in a matter of years, sometimes even months. I myself grew 4 inches in one year. You cannot base reality off of just your life. You must accept any and all variables that others know as truth (including yourself) to come to a true understanding of what reality is.
Reality is a great influence on this game, but it does not rule it. We can't jump. We can't swim. We can't run faster for a short period of time. Why? Because ANet made it so. If they make our height changeable, then that is how it will be and we must accept that.
Once again, I am not attacking your opinion. As a matter of fact, I understand where you're coming from. This is merely my opinion on the matter. Take it or leave it.
/Signed for everything.
deadman_uk
I agree
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Peter Acid Eater
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Our height and facial features? Those we can not change. Those who do change those in our world are insane...but that's another topic of course. Basically, I'm totally against changing the height and facial feature of a character. We can't do it here, so why do it there? |
http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/fact/thr_r...Ort hopaedics
Limb lengthening. It's the thing that put Rivers Cuomo out of playing for about a year and a half. Using this procedure it is possible to increase a person's overall height. It is also possible to do the opposite and shorten them, though that procedure is more risky.
We can't change our facial attributes in real life? Ever heard of plastic surgery?
My point isn't really to argue semantics, but we CAN change our height and faces in real life. I know the argument is going to be that GW doesn't have plastic surgeons and orthopedic doctors and what all, but as said before... why would they need them? You teleport halfway across the continent in a blink of an eye. You can come back from the dead. This is a land of powerful magic and I see no reason why it should be considered unreasonable to presume that such a power might exist to accomplish the necessary goals to change one's appearance.
Some things, I agree, should be left alone. Names and sex should stay where they are. I don't even have a problem with height being a fixed attribute. But I feel that I should be allowed to update my warrior's face to one in the new campaign without having to completely delete the character, their armor, and lose all of the Epic Skills that I've gained. The new necro faces are pretty cool looking and it's annoying to have to start over again just for a face, or just for a hairstyle.
You can argue fantasy/reflections of reality all you want, but what it truly comes down to is; this is a game. ANet should do what makes the game fun for its players. To argue that the powers to achieve these means isn't there or is impossible is silly. There is much left to discover about the GW universe.
/signed
*cross compatability with hairstyles/faces would be nice too. (ie: Nightfall face w/ Prophecies hair)
Neriandal Freit
Update their face entirely? Isn't that creating a new character and just using the old one as the ride? Kind of sad isn't it?
Plus, with both the plastic surgery/ortho things you've listed, tell me, how many people in our world do such things? Sure, people get their boobs lifted and nose shaved, don't get me wrong. But how many people actually go to the extremes to do a total face reconstruction unless he or she was in a serious accident or incident? Such things should apply to Guildwars reguardless if we come back from the dead or not, because if we didn't in this game, would you still be playing it with one life? (The teleport to places, well, no argument there. At first I was like "this is sad...", but, it's in there and I'll take it as it's my only option unless I want to go way to far for a simple, simple quest.)
Hair Color/Styles should really be the only major thing we should be able to change on a character, unless one day they impliment the changing of eye coloring (which then we'll see, I want to change my lips, eye shape, ears and toes tooo!!!!!!, so I doubt it). But, for the most part, we only get one chance to make a height of a character, we shouldn't get a "Get out of jail free!" card and at will change our height and entire face.
It just takes away from the life of your character, they aren't them anymore if you always change things on them. It's like a Paris Hilton. No fun on the inside.
Plus, with both the plastic surgery/ortho things you've listed, tell me, how many people in our world do such things? Sure, people get their boobs lifted and nose shaved, don't get me wrong. But how many people actually go to the extremes to do a total face reconstruction unless he or she was in a serious accident or incident? Such things should apply to Guildwars reguardless if we come back from the dead or not, because if we didn't in this game, would you still be playing it with one life? (The teleport to places, well, no argument there. At first I was like "this is sad...", but, it's in there and I'll take it as it's my only option unless I want to go way to far for a simple, simple quest.)
Hair Color/Styles should really be the only major thing we should be able to change on a character, unless one day they impliment the changing of eye coloring (which then we'll see, I want to change my lips, eye shape, ears and toes tooo!!!!!!, so I doubt it). But, for the most part, we only get one chance to make a height of a character, we shouldn't get a "Get out of jail free!" card and at will change our height and entire face.
It just takes away from the life of your character, they aren't them anymore if you always change things on them. It's like a Paris Hilton. No fun on the inside.
mikkel
This height/facial structure argument is silly. This is a game where potions can turn people into gnomes and candy corn, and where gods can turn mortals into pigs. Simply changing someone's face would seem like a trivial matter.
MithranArkanere
Hm... for those that like the new faces, there could be a 'one time' remake anytime new faces are added to a campaign.
Players would be warned: "this will be the only time you'll be able to change your character appearance".
New things would be only the new ones added for the particular campaign, so if new faces are added to another, you won' be able to change other characters, only the ones of that campaign.
You'll be sent to the character creating an you'll be able to change the face model and skin tan, but not height.
Then you'll be able to change hair color and style with the stylist anytime you want, keeping the new face until new stuff is added again to that campaign (maybe never).
Players would be warned: "this will be the only time you'll be able to change your character appearance".
New things would be only the new ones added for the particular campaign, so if new faces are added to another, you won' be able to change other characters, only the ones of that campaign.
You'll be sent to the character creating an you'll be able to change the face model and skin tan, but not height.
Then you'll be able to change hair color and style with the stylist anytime you want, keeping the new face until new stuff is added again to that campaign (maybe never).
Neriandal Freit
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This height/facial structure argument is silly. This is a game where potions can turn people into gnomes and candy corn, and where gods can turn mortals into pigs. Simply changing someone's face would seem like a trivial matter.
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It's not so much an argument though as a debate. As I learned over the weekend, appearntly I love to debate and I don't even realize it :P
Peter Acid Eater
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Update their face entirely? Isn't that creating a new character and just using the old one as the ride? Kind of sad isn't it?
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Such things should apply to Guildwars reguardless if we come back from the dead or not, because if we didn't in this game, would you still be playing it with one life? (The teleport to places, well, no argument there. At first I was like "this is sad...", but, it's in there and I'll take it as it's my only option unless I want to go way to far for a simple, simple quest.) Hair Color/Styles should really be the only major thing we should be able to change on a character, unless one day they impliment the changing of eye coloring (which then we'll see, I want to change my lips, eye shape, ears and toes tooo!!!!!!, so I doubt it). But, for the most part, we only get one chance to make a height of a character, we shouldn't get a "Get out of jail free!" card and at will change our height and entire face. |
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My entire point is that requiring me to delete my Warrior; who is 1.5 years old, has numerous elite skills, has a few titles, and has several armor sets, in order to use a feature of the new campaign is silly and quite annoying. IMO, my chars titles, skills, and armor sets make him much more "him" than what facial model he's using.
We agree to disagree as there is no point in arguing. I doubt I'll convince you and you're currently not convincing me. If you feel that the ability to change your char's face destroys "who they are", then don't use it. But why penalize others who want use a feature afforded to them by the new campaign? You have your personal, morally based objections, but unless there is a serious, logistical reason, I fail to see this request as unreasonable.
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Hm... for those that like the new faces, there could be a 'one time' remake anytime new faces are added to a campaign.
Players would be warned: "this will be the only time you'll be able to change your character appearance". New things would be only the new ones added for the particular campaign, so if new faces are added to another, you won' be able to change other characters, only the ones of that campaign. You'll be sent to the character creating an you'll be able to change the face model and skin tan, but not height. |