ok listen to this
i was with a party at the thirsty river and we had got to the last section where there is three bosses.
there was a 2 gold staffs and a gold peice of armour just behind us reserved for other people
my party charged randomly into the 3 groups and obviously got slaughtered and i managed to escape with the hero as i was the monk hanging away from the combat.
i did not have rebirth but i did have res but it was useless as they died as soon as i ressed them.
so i decided to wait and pick up the gold items myself and they tried to report meand wouldnt stop private messaging me so i had to set them to ignore
now i know for a fact that none of you would charge hopelessly to your deaths if you knew 3 gold items were going to be available in 5 min and you couldnt save your freinds.
so is that still unacceptable to all of you or are you the sort of people that say no to everything if the game doesnt go in their favor all the time.
Stolen drops... Can anything be done?
karl h
KrisTof
I would have picked them up, then handed over their property back to them after the round...
Like in the real world, some clearly don't have any sense of ethics...
PS: Thank god for these forums, my ignore list becomes longer (I use it as a reminder on who not to party with)
Like in the real world, some clearly don't have any sense of ethics...
PS: Thank god for these forums, my ignore list becomes longer (I use it as a reminder on who not to party with)
hassoon
If you had the slightest bit of class you would have given the items to the people who were supposed to get them.
DrSLUGFly
just tonight, a fiery dragon sword dropped for one member, another asked for it, but the reserving player was afk. We waited and under all remaining players consent, the person who asked for it picked it up when it unlocked. This happened later in the same mission with a person who had been afk for much longer. Perhaps, for all fairness (cuz sometimes, I would agree with the person doing this, not in your situation obviously though) they should impliment a "release drop" button. After the timer runs out, you could get a 10 second or 15 second pop-up that says "release this item as public?" and once the timer runs out without a response, it becomes public by default. This way, nobody could do this stupid thing to you, and if someone is afk and you're choosing between go through the portal and wait god only knows how long for the person to come back, you can just grab the item and go through.
Ashleigh McMahon
Please try to keep this thread clean.
Regards, Ashleigh
Regards, Ashleigh
Night Daftshadow
easy solution, if you are alive and do not pick up an item after 5mins, it becomes public. if you die, then all of your unpicked items will not go public at any time at all. the public rule only applies if you are alive.
recap:
Alive, items go public after 5mins if they are unpicked
Dead, items never go public, only until you are alive again and 5min rule apply
i think a solution for afk ppl is that the game will boot the person who has afk for more than 10mins. i believe this is fair because afkers really annoy me and other ppl as well.
recap:
Alive, items go public after 5mins if they are unpicked
Dead, items never go public, only until you are alive again and 5min rule apply
i think a solution for afk ppl is that the game will boot the person who has afk for more than 10mins. i believe this is fair because afkers really annoy me and other ppl as well.
karl h
ok firsty please dont mention anything about the real world in this game as i do know the game is designed to be as real as possible but it isnt real and we all know that.
for a fact in real life if most people found something lying around on the floor they wouldnt be returning it.
secondly in real life you wouldnt let people die so since your basing most your ideas on what you would do in real life doesnt that mean that we should also ban people for letting other people die?
i do get the reason some of you people are angry as it has happened to me many times but you just have to forget about it and try to be more careful with your lifes in future.
all we can do is hope that arenanet and ncsoft pick up on some of your ideas and maybe there is a way to forward your ideas to them instead of talking between ourselfs?
for a fact in real life if most people found something lying around on the floor they wouldnt be returning it.
secondly in real life you wouldnt let people die so since your basing most your ideas on what you would do in real life doesnt that mean that we should also ban people for letting other people die?
i do get the reason some of you people are angry as it has happened to me many times but you just have to forget about it and try to be more careful with your lifes in future.
all we can do is hope that arenanet and ncsoft pick up on some of your ideas and maybe there is a way to forward your ideas to them instead of talking between ourselfs?
Aradia Ashkal
Someting similar happened to me the other day but we were on theother side much like some stated before. We had this jerk who claimed to be stuck with lag and couldnt move yet he could watch the battles without lag and never actually lagged out of them game. He just wanted the free ride. Not only that but he was very rude and keep spamming the chat while the rest of tried to fight. Well a few minutes after the lag a gold scroll feel for him. And he started bitching about how oneof needed to pick it so he could have it after we won. Well my husband did pick it up but after another 15 minutes of his spammin and rude behavior while they rest of where getng our butts kicked for him He did not recieve is scroll.
Darkest Dawn
I had a guy in my guild who's inventory was full. He dropped a lot of what he was holding and I picked it up so he could free some spots for good picks. Afterwards when he had spots open I gave the stuff back.
Another time I helped somone by using my own salvage kits to liquidate their plain jane items into crafting materials and gave them back to them.
It's this type of looking out for one another and the teamwork that goes with it that make gaming enjoyable.
As an officer in my guild, I'm trying to share these qualities with my guildmates, and you know..... it's working. We halp each other out, and those of us who are higher and further in the game help, and give to the others not as far along.
I also found that just helping out in general is cool. I was in Beacon's Perch with my lvl 20 warrior when this guy(not in my guild) asked me if I had any better weapons to sell him. I said yes, how much did he have to spend. He replied that he had 3 hundred and something, and some iron ore for a hammer if I had one. He was like level 12 or something.
I said sure, and proceeded to sell him my extra gold hammer that had a 39 max damage and some other extras.
When he got it he was in shock and couldn't thank me enough! lol now I bet he's kicking some serious tush with that hammer.
Now I could have sold that for some nice gold, but hey, what the heck. It's fun to help instead of just being a greedy bastard.
Another time I helped somone by using my own salvage kits to liquidate their plain jane items into crafting materials and gave them back to them.
It's this type of looking out for one another and the teamwork that goes with it that make gaming enjoyable.
As an officer in my guild, I'm trying to share these qualities with my guildmates, and you know..... it's working. We halp each other out, and those of us who are higher and further in the game help, and give to the others not as far along.
I also found that just helping out in general is cool. I was in Beacon's Perch with my lvl 20 warrior when this guy(not in my guild) asked me if I had any better weapons to sell him. I said yes, how much did he have to spend. He replied that he had 3 hundred and something, and some iron ore for a hammer if I had one. He was like level 12 or something.
I said sure, and proceeded to sell him my extra gold hammer that had a 39 max damage and some other extras.
When he got it he was in shock and couldn't thank me enough! lol now I bet he's kicking some serious tush with that hammer.
Now I could have sold that for some nice gold, but hey, what the heck. It's fun to help instead of just being a greedy bastard.
Algren Cole
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I had a guy in my guild who's inventory was full. He dropped a lot of what he was holding and I picked it up so he could free some spots for good picks. Afterwards when he had spots open I gave the stuff back.
Another time I helped somone by using my own salvage kits to liquidate their plain jane items into crafting materials and gave them back to them. It's this type of looking out for one another and the teamwork that goes with it that make gaming enjoyable. As an officer in my guild, I'm trying to share these qualities with my guildmates, and you know..... it's working. We halp each other out, and those of us who are higher and further in the game help, and give to the others not as far along. I also found that just helping out in general is cool. I was in Beacon's Perch with my lvl 20 warrior when this guy(not in my guild) asked me if I had any better weapons to sell him. I said yes, how much did he have to spend. He replied that he had 3 hundred and something, and some iron ore for a hammer if I had one. He was like level 12 or something. I said sure, and proceeded to sell him my extra gold hammer that had a 39 max damage and some other extras. When he got it he was in shock and couldn't thank me enough! lol now I bet he's kicking some serious tush with that hammer. Now I could have sold that for some nice gold, but hey, what the heck. It's fun to help instead of just being a greedy bastard. |
Eagle923
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Now I could have sold that for some nice gold, but hey, what the heck. It's fun to help instead of just being a greedy bastard.
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Last night, I gave away in Ascalon City and Ft. Ranik:
gold Vampiric Half Moon bow of Fortitude, with +20 health.
a few purple and blue hammers
numerous collectors healing anhks
and I bought a set of ranger armor (fur and everything) for a complete new guy that was lost after searing.
MechaStyle
Is there anything that can be done to punish this particular person? I'm not so much upset about the loss of the item as the principle of having it stolen. Sure, I could just play with my guild/friends, but it shouldn't have to come to that... Sad, really.
Reiden Argrock
Sorry, don't really think there can be anything done about it, I can guaruntee I'll never grp with this person, but I would suggest to avoid future incidents, if your low on health, grab your drops then worry about the mobs if your still alive
sorry again
-Reiden
sorry again
-Reiden
MechaStyle
I appreciate your sympathy. But don't grieve for me, grieve for humanity. J/k. ^^
Algren Cole
there's really nothing you can do....but don't let this turn you into a player that grabs his drops in the middle of battle...I assure you that drop stealers are the minority. I've picked up blue/purple items that someone has forgotten to grab and at the end of the mission in TeamChat I let them know that they forgot to grab their purple/blue item and start a trade session with them. There's enough drops for everyone...there's no need to comprimise your morals and steal someone elses....there's also no reason to leave your team high and dry just to get that purple drop.
Sir Skullcrasher
for the future patch, A-net should make the items that is drop for a specific players to be pick up by that person. That means if you die and there a gold storm bow assigned to you and you died, that bow would still be your to pick up after you died .. that my two cents 
hassoon
Ever notice when you complete a mission how a inventory box shows up asking if you want your loot?How bout that all loot is locked to a person and if he dies or evryone dies he still has the option to take it.
Zaklex
You all realize that the lockdown used to be only 30 seconds, and why he waited 5 minutes I'll never know, for I believe the item is reserved for your character for only 60 seconds now(possibly 3 minutes, but I highly doubt that) and not for 5 minutes, so if a purple or gold item drops, your best option is to pickup it up right away(it usually drops were you're fighting so you aren't leaving anyone high and dry).
Darkest Dawn
LOL, yeah, I may be a sucker, but I hope I wasn't. I hope he(or she) got to use it in battle, In the shiverpeaks, that hammer with the required 8 hammer mastery, can put a hurting on them baddies.
Algren Cole
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LOL, yeah, I may be a sucker, but I hope I wasn't. I hope he(or she) got to use it in battle, In the shiverpeaks, that hammer with the required 8 hammer mastery, can put a hurting on them baddies.
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either way you helped a noob....and that was your intention. [thumbsup]
Night
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Is there anything that can be done to punish this particular person? I'm not so much upset about the loss of the item as the principle of having it stolen. Sure, I could just play with my guild/friends, but it shouldn't have to come to that... Sad, really.
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As far as punishment, I don't see how. Even screen shots may not be able to prove how long it was that he/she left you dead so they could grab the item. I don't know hwhat good it would do to complain but then again 1 or 2 complaints probably won't get them into trouble but if this is his/hers regular tactic then a few complaints might get him into trouble or at least a look by the powers that be. So I would go ahead and send an email to ANet. Let them know that you realize if you were the first one complaining they may not do anything, you just wanted to a get rapport going so that they could possible start a log on this person.
This leads me to another possibility (but I think it would get way too abused) some type of thread that allows users here to post on bad/scamming players. List character name and type and what exactly they did. After so many complaints on the same character, they get published on that list(being that someone will probably attempt to get someone else in trouble for no reason whatsoever plus misunderstandings do occur and the mods and admins would have to get involved so again I don't know if its even feasible).
We'd have to constitute what is considered bad manners ie charging outrageous prices imo isn't bad manners nor is not knowing what to do but scamming someone or leaving during a mission without a valid reason, I would consider to be wrong. We'd also have to allow the accused the oppurtunity to defend themselves and give their reason or rationale as to why they did.
Pretty much intense thing that could get abused (of course putting in some constraints may ellivaite this but who knows) and probably not doable but hey at least talking about it is better than doing totally nothing. I know in D2 HC on several boards we maintained a listing of known Pkers and Hack pkers so that we knew to avoid any games where those names showed up in.
johnisme
If a person intentionally waits to acquire a dropped item to become public before the original owner it was tagged to is rezzed then thats shameless and i would be mad,no need for anybody here who's had this happen to grow up.
Gerbill
if someone really waits full 5 minutes for a drop to become public yes then I agree that's lame.
but if you fight and you die at the start of a battle, let's say 1 monk survives.. and it's 4 minutes later and he rezzes a few people it becomes public he picks it up you get rezzed didn't get it.. so be it, afterall you died.. he did not.
but if you fight and you die at the start of a battle, let's say 1 monk survives.. and it's 4 minutes later and he rezzes a few people it becomes public he picks it up you get rezzed didn't get it.. so be it, afterall you died.. he did not.
Sekkendou
Bleh, join a real guild and just go with guildmates. Then this sort of crap doesn't happen. If it still happens, you can either leave the guild or get them booted. It all comes down to playing with trustworthy people. In EVERY MMORPG greed will be a huge factor. I've had this same sort of thing happen to me multiple times in pickup teams. It annoyed me more that the idiot was making us all wait to get rezzed than it did he was taking the item. I'm already past the point in GW where money really maters, so people doing this sort of dumb **** doesn't phase me that much.
ICURADik
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While doing quests in Underworld, a gold max storm bow dropped for me. I died quickly after I saw it dropped. There was only one person left alive. This person waited around for about 5 minutes, then picked up my bow and proceeded to rez one of the monks.
I'm doubtful anything can be done about this, but I felt like letting everyone know just how pathetic people can be sometimes. I really want this person to be banned, although I guess it is pretty unlikely anything can be done. I took a couple screenshots, one with the person standing next to the bow while it said that it still belonged to me, and one with the text saying he had picked it up. The user name was Liela Eolithic of guild [RR], playing a R/Mo. Any comments or suggestions? |
wgregory87
hahaha I've done that to someone for a rune (mind you he went AFK for 5 minutes so I didn't feel the slightest bit bad.) Theres actually 2 ways to look at this. The person that got the drop and is extremely lucky, or the person that didn't get the drop and is extremely unlucky. Now if you're the only person left... maybe the drop is for you at that point.
Having drops never go public would be STUPID. If this happened there would be so many good items gone to waste. Lots of people dont pick items that are good for you and bad for them. Also if someone leaves then a good drop just went to waste and everyone feels bad. A possible solution could be to make the drop non visible to anyone except the claimed name. And then after it becomes public there could be a message on screen " This item just went public ". Maybe not even show when people pick items up. Because the less godly drops you see someone else get, the less you feel shitty that you're getting nothing.
Having drops never go public would be STUPID. If this happened there would be so many good items gone to waste. Lots of people dont pick items that are good for you and bad for them. Also if someone leaves then a good drop just went to waste and everyone feels bad. A possible solution could be to make the drop non visible to anyone except the claimed name. And then after it becomes public there could be a message on screen " This item just went public ". Maybe not even show when people pick items up. Because the less godly drops you see someone else get, the less you feel shitty that you're getting nothing.
Perishiko ReLLiK
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I suggest that they just never let non-quest items become public...
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Arvydas
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hahaha I've done that to someone for a rune (mind you he went AFK for 5 minutes so I didn't feel the slightest bit bad.) Theres actually 2 ways to look at this. The person that got the drop and is extremely lucky, or the person that didn't get the drop and is extremely unlucky. Now if you're the only person left... maybe the drop is for you at that point.
Having drops never go public would be STUPID. If this happened there would be so many good items gone to waste. Lots of people dont pick items that are good for you and bad for them. Also if someone leaves then a good drop just went to waste and everyone feels bad. A possible solution could be to make the drop non visible to anyone except the claimed name. And then after it becomes public there could be a message on screen " This item just went public ". Maybe not even show when people pick items up. Because the less godly drops you see someone else get, the less you feel shitty that you're getting nothing. |
sysfailur
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I suggest that they just never let non-quest items become public...
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MechaStyle
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I just talked to him. He says you were a noob, and he sold it for 115k.
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Wrath of m0o
I agree with Konquest's reply. Start the timer when you are revived.
Sekkendou
or just make all drops visible only for the person they dropped for.
Divinus
I think all non-quest are NEVER public. If you do get disconnected it'd be nice to log back in and have the "loot box" similar to in missions. I'd be pissed if something godly dropped and then my cable went out.
For all of you who keep spatting this "You died, your fault, it should be public" bullshit, you're turning this game into Diablo 2. A bunch of eleven year olds completely ignoring battle and clicking on the map in a seizure-like madness. Completely oblivious to everyone else and only worry about yourself - why PUGs suck ass.
For all of you who keep spatting this "You died, your fault, it should be public" bullshit, you're turning this game into Diablo 2. A bunch of eleven year olds completely ignoring battle and clicking on the map in a seizure-like madness. Completely oblivious to everyone else and only worry about yourself - why PUGs suck ass.
crazy diamond
This is why I always pick everything up, even the stuff I wont use. Being a warrior I'm usualy right there when things drop, so it's not a problem realy.
Personaly, I'd rather trash the stuff I wont use than let it go public and have someone else pick it up.
Personaly, I'd rather trash the stuff I wont use than let it go public and have someone else pick it up.
Fantras
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You died silly. How can you get mad at that? You are lucky he waited 5 minutes.
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ok listen to this
i was with a party at the thirsty river and we had got to the last section where there is three bosses. there was a 2 gold staffs and a gold peice of armour just behind us reserved for other people my party charged randomly into the 3 groups and obviously got slaughtered and i managed to escape with the hero as i was the monk hanging away from the combat. i did not have rebirth but i did have res but it was useless as they died as soon as i ressed them. so i decided to wait and pick up the gold items myself and they tried to report meand wouldnt stop private messaging me so i had to set them to ignore now i know for a fact that none of you would charge hopelessly to your deaths if you knew 3 gold items were going to be available in 5 min and you couldnt save your freinds. so is that still unacceptable to all of you or are you the sort of people that say no to everything if the game doesnt go in their favor all the time. |
This post is great. These are the only two turd lickers on my ignore list. Worthless *expletive deleted*
Luggage
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your best option is to pickup it up right away(it usually drops were you're fighting so you aren't leaving anyone high and dry).
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Shadowdaemon
it is about 5 minutes on the drops being reserved, so unless you die, i see no reason to leave something lying for 5 minutes unless you didnt see it, and if you didnt see it, you certainly dont know it was yours.
ive had people take my drops in fissure when i have died, oh well, good luck for them, ill even go back with the same group, im not that worried about a few items
and as for people getting in trouble for taking a drop that has went public, you all know they go public after a while, it is so others can pick up what you dont, so people arent going to get in trouble for picking up something they are allowed to.
the one guy kinda makes me mad if he is deliberately avoiding battle just to get the party destroyed to get their drops, however he wont get in trouble either, if you email anet about it they will just tell you not to party with him
ive had people take my drops in fissure when i have died, oh well, good luck for them, ill even go back with the same group, im not that worried about a few items
and as for people getting in trouble for taking a drop that has went public, you all know they go public after a while, it is so others can pick up what you dont, so people arent going to get in trouble for picking up something they are allowed to.
the one guy kinda makes me mad if he is deliberately avoiding battle just to get the party destroyed to get their drops, however he wont get in trouble either, if you email anet about it they will just tell you not to party with him
KingKryton
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Its not stealing, you died. Think about it. A dead person cannot own anything. Why do you think the developers made it possible for the item to be "public"
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XENOGEARSHARINGAN
yeah this truelly suks and it has happen to me. we wer on group to undwerworld and we had this two monk(scamers). so we wer in underworld and wer wer kilin smites i had a stormbow drop, purple, and some other guy had an eternal sheild drop. well we died becuse the monk did not heal us he just ran then he waited about 5 min then picked up our loot and told us if we wnted to be rez to give him 5k. of course wer wer pissed
good thing is he got banned because taht some serius abuse if you tell arenanet about this and have proof of all that he did liek the chats and stuff sometimes they will bann.
good thing is he got banned because taht some serius abuse if you tell arenanet about this and have proof of all that he did liek the chats and stuff sometimes they will bann.
Makkert
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/ignore Sir Bakedalot Thank you sir!!!!
/ignore leia ellessar Thank you sir!!! This post is great. These are the only two turd lickers on my ignore list. Worthless *expletive deleted* |
I would love to add people to my ignore list, but it seems capped at 25. not jus 25 ignore, no. 25 = friends + ignored. and frriends are more important then ignored people, so i find myself emptying my ignore list.
shame, i wish i could extent it.