Something must be done !!!

i guess you can call this a rant if you like but I was just at lion Arch with my 3rd character trying to find a group to do villainy.

it was imjpossible to get a group together seeing as everyone is using the CHAT CHANNEL for trading.

after numerous attempts to try ang get people to use the TRADE CHANNEL i get up trying to find a group.

Anet I am asking you to do something about this. the trade channel is there for a reason. there is no excuse for spamming the local channel with trades and I am sure there is something in the TOS about spamming. one of the defanitions of spamming is using something for soemthing other than it's intended use.

I am rather positive that since there is a seperate CHAT CHANNEL the purpose of the local channel is not for trade.

I am asking for something to be done about this as it is a very severe annoyance to say the least.

I will even go as far as to say ban accounts for repeat offenders. there has to be a way to monitor this be it moderators or whatnot.

thanks for your time

/report function should be introduced?

Definitely need an ingame dedicated /report function to take care of trouble makers and maybe even a way to add a instant screenshot along with it.

that would take all of 15 minutes....

but they're busy implementating a Rare Weapons Trader...so you're shit out of luck

I just find it more than rediculous that this goes unchecked. not only does it ruin the game for people trying to get groups it is blatently agains the chat rules there yet nothing is done.

they can ban a borderline offensive name but for truly offensive things nothing is done.

ANet should ban these people. One warning first, then ban them for clogging up the channel with whatever crap they might be selling. I don't care for some godly sword with 2-6 dmg , I am LFG!!!

I had some jackass in Lions Arch tell me that District One was for trading, and if I wanted to talk to players, to go to another district.

ahh, finally something that actually does piss me off!!!

At first I figured these people spamming trade in local chat were just new and din't know their were seperate channels for trading, well, I politely told them how to access and use the trade channel, and to please use it, as local channel was not for trading.

No response. But he continued to spam.

Then I found him and walked up to him and opened trade box to get his attention, then I realised he was lvl 20 and about blew up!!

This was about 2 weeks ago, now you can't even decipher local chat from trade garbage in the local chat.. It's seriously pissing me off.

/report would be really nice, for trade spams in wrong channel and for any other innapropriate behavior in game

Just put an autofilter on "all" that sends every line with WTS, WTB
, WTT, buy, sell, trade and some others into the trade channel.

What are you guy talking about? Most of the spams I see in Lion Archs are colored in light pink which is the color of trade spam, is it not?

i know, just stand there in any towns and look at the local channel, it will quickly fill up with trade items or WTB message!

most of the time, if someone want to join a group, you message will usually get wipe out by wave of WTB, WTS message..

Yes, absolutely this is a huge annoyance. Trade spammers on the local channel. Ugh. Trader-freaks. Flay them alive witha vampiric whip of snarkiness, says I.

I would also like to see a GROUPING channel added. Then the local channel could be just for people to actually (gasp) talk to each other.

--Nokomis

Turn of the trade and emote channels and see what is mostly spamming the all channel...

All Anet has to do is get a part time intern to stand in lions arch and give a warning to anyone that posts any trading message in 'All'. If they disobey the warning, kick them so they have to reconnect. Third offense, kick them for 10 minutes and so on.

Eventually everyone will get the point and no one will send any trading messages in 'all'.

Hell I'd do it for free, just give me the power and 10 minutes and you'll never see anyone trade in 'all' ever again.

I dont advocate spamming in the local channels, but sometimes leaving one or two WTB in the locals wont hurt anyone. i dont know about anyone else, but when im buying and selling stuff after a while the pink text starts to blur together... so sometimes the white text makes a nice change. and another thing, most people who spam their items, have local chat turned off, and vice versa, local people have trade channel turned off, so in order to maximize your potential buyers it only makes sense to put it in local and trade channels...

Just my $.02

Leaving 1 or 2 WTBs in local channels will open the door for leaving 3 or 4 WTBs in locals, and that will open the door for leaving 5 or 6... In the end you will have local channels as trade channels.

Just my $.03

Something definitely needs done about this. And while they are at it at a permanent filter for the words godly and noob in all their variations.. Every time I see those words I have to supress the urge to vomit all over my keyboard. "godly" is both overused and totally inaccurate.. there are NO "godly" items in this game.

As far as Noob goes.. I willing to bet that everyone but the idiots that use it constantly are about tired of seeing it chewing up screen space as well.

Banning people is stupid. Why would you ban someone for posting text? And the text isn't even racist or offensive for that matter. The fact that you can't get a group together sounds like a personal problem.

If it's that big of a deal, I'd suggest to Anet that a trading outpost be made.
Just a simple little town where people can trade items, etc.

Well, I always ask people who use the normal channel for trade to take it to the trade channel.

Ofcourse, banning people who use the normal channel for trade is overly harsh, and doesn't address the cause of the symptom, which is that GW's system is poor for both sales AND grouping. There needs to be a dedicated system for both (something which I've already posted about multiple times, so I can just hope that Anet is paying attention...)

To be fair, it's a bit of a consensus that district 1 and 2 are Trade Districts, and so it would be EASIER if you did go to another district to group. Not saying there's anything against doing it in 1 or 2, but you are making it needlessly hard on yourself.

Finally, Galrath is easier to complete from Temple of Ages. 2 extra party members, plus 30% less walk.

Creston

Yeah I agree sometimes the spam on the local channel for WTB WTS WTT wahtever gets too annoying which then forces me to basically shut off all of the channels besides my guilds channel which it shouldnt have to be that way. anyways maybe a traders district should be added in? thus aleavieating the spammers on the local channel, I know that anet has taken steps to reduce the spam by puting in timers between msg's you can enter in but still when im looking for a group for a mission or wahtnot I dont want to compete with WTS: MAX DMG - FIERY FELLBLADE OF FORTITUDE - PM ME!!! so yeah maybe a trader district or an autoboot system that boots you after so many repeated msgs???

why would yo uban them?????

simple SPAMMING!!!!!!!!1

spamming is not allowed and to use the local chat channel for trade is spamming pure and simple.


using a channel for anyting other than it's intended us is spamming.


and as for getting a group it is impossible because of all the trading giong on in local channel

Yeah, like somebody said about the rare weaps trader... A.Net focuses on the stuff which isn't as pressing. They are trying to avoid the big issues by giving us little worthless things like the sound when you get a whisper. Yay!

This is a really big problem, not only is it bad that people spam in public chat, but in the trade they try and sell "GODLY" and "UBER" items. Very often they don't post stats in the message, and many times they do not respond to a whisper asking to see the item. I especially love godly 11-15 dragons swords. very powerful.

sorry to burst your all knowing bubble my friend BUT!!!!! trade channel is for trading and local is for chat.

period end of story!!!

Do you have ANY idea how much this would be abused? It's been proven many times that people in general don't use their brains, and usually don't use their common sense when it comes to things like trying to get people in trouble. I have a feeling if this were implemented, half of the /reports that they would get would be "OMG HE BEET ME IN PVP WTF.NET I WAS USING A FIRE SWORD." I think it's a good thing it takes a little while to truly fill out a report -- keeps most of the irrational people from using it.

But aside from that, I really think Anet should introduce something like an Auction House where people can go and just sell things. Right now Lion's Arch seems to be the place to do that, which really annoys everyone who tries to do anything else there.

it IS annoying, but when this is a problem ill swap over to dist 4 or higher, and then its not a huge problem. getting a groups dosent mean you "have" to be in the first 3 districts, and naturally thats where people will go to sell, given how those ones will fill up first

First of, you need to stop drinking so much coffee, and calm down before you give yourself an aneurysm. You're acting like they took over your computer and nuked it or something.

Second, re-read the very FIRST line I typed. Did you read that? Now think about it. Oh my God, I actually agreed with you!

So get off your sarcastic horse.

Creston

you agree with me then you told me it was concensus that dist 1-2 were for trade lol.

which one it is???

it is not acceptable my friend i am sorry.

trade cahnnel is for trade why is that such a hard concept for these people to understand>?

The simple way of preventing people from abusing a /report command would be to have some sort of penalty attached to false reports. Anything from a loss of some gold (maybe a platinum or two, taken from your storage, possibly go into negative if they don't have any) to flat out disabling them from ever using it again.

I don't think there's a need to report people who spam trade, maybe just an auto-warning or auto-kicking (or temporary was of disabling their local channel) if they use any form of 'WTS', 'W T S', 'Want to sell', or any sort of thing to try and get around it (using any of those would give you a warning and not send your message). Maybe warning the first time they do it in the local (for those who forget and accidently type it there once), and a kick or mute if they do it too many times in X amount of time. Mute could go anywhere from 10 minutes to a day, depending on how many times you've been muted before.

It doesn't bug me. I even do it. Sometimes it's the only way for people to get thier items noticed. If you go to LA, the pink text becomes a blur. Then BAM! White text. Your item is noticed by someone, or the whole district! Sounds good to me.

typical, if something is not going your way then just do something that is not supposed to be done. you are a prime example of what i am talking about.

very intreesting responses so far

Okay, maybe thats what people need to stop trading in 'all', a second color.

A second color for trade would probably prevent people from going into all, cause then that would mean they would have to shift $ then shift % then shift !.

Even better: How about a second trade channel, shift $ could be just for Buying (WTB), then the second trade channel shift % would be for Selling (WTS).

There would be no excuses of blurring of text, cause you'll see two separate colors for buying and for selling and easily identify whos buying and whos selling.

Or, use my first idea and get a part time intern to warn people that trade in 'all' and if it comes down to it: Kick them for a certain period of time.

banning for trying to sell one's in-game items? give me a break. that would be ludicrous

it is not the players' fault that there is no viable trading system in Guild Wars. if you want to blame someone for that, blame the devs for not making an auction house or other viable trading solution

the trade channel scrolls by way too quickly to read anything. using the trade channel is a great way to give yourself a migraine headache mighty fast.

why should players be forced to give themselves migraine headaches just to sell their items?

i know it's easier to blame the players than the devs, since most fans like to think of the devs as angels who have made a perfect game.

don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to disrespect the devs. they did do a lot of stuff right.

but that doesn't mean the player base should "let the devs off the hook" for not implementing a decent trade system. and thus turn on each other for trying to sell their items in the only way that doesn't cause headaches

Completely agreed. Also stating (The new improved ignore function. Thread has now begun.) It works like a charm!

You're stupid. Bottom line stupid. The trade channel is a very easy function, and all you have to do is scroll through it at your own pace. It's not hard for anyone who uses 5% of their brain. Really. I do not blame the dev's as much as i blame the stupidity of human beings. Seriously. Who would have thought that people would be so stupid? Not them... But me, from my first job at Mcdonalds... i noticed lots of people are quite stupid... not to mention complete zombies to comercials. But heck, that's life, and we must deal with it.

No, banning for selling items is not what's happening. It's the spam in the all channel that's getting them banned (check your own terms of agreement, before you sound like more of a jackass).

in the time it took you to yell at people u coulda just changed districts

If something like this bothers you that much....you are totally unprepared mentally for the real world.

and yes....it's common knowledge that Dist 1 and 2 are used for Trade....that's not to say that Trade doesnt happen in other districts...or that people should be using the Chat channel for Trade....but Creston was right.


If I were you I'd turn my computer off for a week or two and evaluate what is actually important in my life.....cuz I'm most certain "Getting people to stop using the Chat channel for Trade" wouldn't be high on my list.

The easiest way I see to resolving this issue it to make 1 or 2 districts in the main towns, such as Ascalon and LA as Trading Districts only.

This could have several benefits to the rest of the gaming community and overall performance of the game.

It would save all those people trying to look for a group from having to troll through the Spam to find someone who wants to group, and those that are looking for something to buy or sell know where they need to go.

This would lower the amount of trade spam in the other towns which would reduce overall lag, as they would now have just 1 or 2 districts they can trade in, so wouldn't have to spam the channels as often to get noticed and try and outspam everyone else.
This way, they could have 4 trade channels of different colours so all there items would get noticed more easily.

It would save the frustration on people who get annoyed by this(I do, but I move town), and they don't have to tell people to use the Trade Channel anymore, which in itself would greatly reduce the lag.

Having just a few Trade Districts would also help A-Net and GW Support track unscrupulous individuals who are cheating, scamming whatever you will and make it easier for them to become banned, as they would have less logs to look through, again reducing the amount of lag.

And the bonus for Traders is they can get on with what they want to do, and trade without them having to worry about all those that keep telling them what to do, which reduces lag yet again, as they no longer have to reply with F&*K Y8u, and P67s O#f etc etc.

If anyone is caught abusing this system outside the Trade Districts, they get a warning. If they are caught again, they get a 1 week ban, and if they are caught for a 3rd time, they are banned for good.

You could then remove the Trade Channel from all the other districts and hopefully this would also help improve the performance as there is one less channel to monitor in all the districts.

This, in the end would save having to worry about a reporting feature being abused by individuals, and would probably be a lot easier to maintain and implement.

Anyway, just my thoughts after reading what has been posted here.

If you check that little check box on your Message box that says √ Trade and uncheck it.. you wont get the spam. Its NEATO!!!

I think you missed the point. They are spamming the All Chat channel with Trade Spam. Althought that option is good, it doesn't help with the All Chat being Trade Spammed.

The only reason people spam /all with their trade garbage is because most people don't want to see the crap so they turn off /trade. This pisses the trade junkies off so they use /all so people are FORCED to see their crap or else utrn all chat off all together in which case the spammers also win. It's no differetn then EMail spammers who spoof addresses and circumvent anti-spam software by mixing up letters etc in their emails.


It's the WILL to do it, not the actual act, that people should be banned for. The people who put a random WTS in the /all aren't the problem, it's the fools above who cant stand people not being forced into watching their advertisements who are the problem.