A solution to negativity: Charge a monthly fee

Calimar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Silver Limon

E/Me

The point is not about having or not having the money meaning you're smarter. The point Taliesin was trying to make is that people won't pay just to harass others.

But you see, those people are NOT paying (or playin) to harass. They are playing to enjoy themselves just like we do. The problem is, we don't find their amusement funny. Which is entirely our right since they make our game worse, which is definitely NOT in their right.

Those I find most annoying are not the little arrogant jerks in towns. Those I hate are those who jump in a group then go afk the whole mission forcing you to either go back to town or drag them around "for free", also down one man. Those I hate are those who do something stupid then leave you in the middle of the tombs down one man or down 2 people.
Another misconception is that GW is a free game. It is not. Realize it. The 50$ you pay for it are roughly equal 10 months on another game. So it's not free, it's just costing less and less the more you play. If you get banned after two weeks you basically paid 100$ a month. Difference is that we're now paying a flat.

If someone knows WHY should a fee change something, let me know. I can't see why. But please, thikn about all the morons in all other P2P games when answering.

Not rhetorical, not meant as flame-bait.

Ecclesia Angelfire

Ecclesia Angelfire

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

We Merry Few

E/Me

The way I see it, a great deal of the younger crowd who plays guild wars have no job and cannot afford a monthly fee. As well, having to pay a monthly fee makes you feel "obligated" to play alot because if you do not play for a month, then you wasted that month's fee. As someone said earlier, the day they charge a monthly fee, I leave forever. Also, I think that if they release chapter updates every 6 months or so, that are available as downloads only, therefore eliminating the cost of boxed versions, and charge the price of the original game, then they can still make plenty of money. Furthermore, if you do not like the rude people, take henchmen. I have finished every mission in the game with henchmen, including ascention, once after the recent patch that made ascention harder, so if you cannot do that, I guess you have a few things to learn about the game. As far a PvP and Gvg, if you have "lamers" in your GvG or PvP team, it seems to me that you need to be a bit more selective. Just my honest opinion.

Akilles

Akilles

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Brothers of the Jade

How I bought Guild Wars.....

One day while I jumped in TS to play some Halo PC I noticed 2 friends were not playing halo, they said they bought Guild Wars

"Whats that?" I said

"It is a cool Massive Multiplayer Game! Dude you gotta get this!!!!" said the friends.

"HAHA, I dont think so, if I pay for a game, why the hell still pay for it months after? I will NEVER get a MMO" I replied.

"There is no fee you buy the game and that is it!" they gleefully responded.

Akilles than hit up google and saw the graphics were great and it indeed was FREE, within minutes Akilles bought Guild Wars and played with his friends.

Calimar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Silver Limon

E/Me

Same here Akilles.

And yes Ecclesia, I'd leave too. It's true that most kids have no job... but their parents do have one and will pay. See WoW, SWG, EQ, DAOC, Myth of Soma and you name it. Monthly fees have never stopped anyone from being a jerk.
Someone on this thread (so sorry don't remember the name) said they would feel more justified: "I pay for this game, I do what I want!"
In my experience, it's a very likely scenario.

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Kids' parents paying their monthly fees is their way of making themselves feel 'involved' in their children's lives. They pay it to "keep them happy" and busy. Just because some teens have no jobs doesn't in any way insure that they won't still be around.

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

my mom conects with me by making me cut the lawn and telling me to go to bed when i stay up till 6 am.. isnt that just the sweetest thing (ok so we do more than that)

as much as i would love to play a "real" MMO i would never make my mom pay for a game, unless she will play it more than i do (but she has to learn how to turn on a computer first), i guess some kids just dont feel the same way i do

Lorelei

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere unexpected

Noooo. If you want monthly fee, go play WoW or Eve.

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

i have a good idea how to lower negative coments Anet could add a super cool smiley face with a thumbs up that says "you one cool dude/dudete"... or people could stop looking at all the negatives of the game and focus on all the positives instead.. just a though

audioaxes

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

this game aint worth a monthly fee

Thanas

Thanas

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Star Riders (StR)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Talesin Darkbriar
/dodges missiles and flaming objects

I know, I know! ANet said the game is "free" once you purchase it and will only charge for future expansions and such.

Here's why they should charge a modest monthly fee to play:

1.) It immediately removes 99.9% of the complete morons currently polluting the game. Don't even get me started; there's been enough threads on the average IQ of the atypical GW player, and its in the single digits.
(No, your normal or high IQ doesn't compensate for the other 99%)

2.) It adds positive reinforcement to naming policy and bannable offenses.
Who cares how they act once they've steamrolled through the game once with their Warrior/Monk already? This is the consensus I get from GW idiots everywhere. Add a monthly fee - something to lose - and they will be better behaved.

3.) It provides ANet with the operating capital to ramp up operations if desired.How many posts here are asking for more expansions?
Look, EQ2 charges $15.00 a month PLUS incidentals for what is by all accounts a broken, unbalanced, worthless slug of a game. They still have players in the 10's of thousands who just can't part with their cash quick enough.
If ANet charged even a modest $7.00 per month it would still be the online deal of the 21st century. If you can cough up $50 for the game, $7 is skipping one lunch at McDonalds - come on, its not unreasonable.

4.) A monthly fee adds a "legitimacy" to Guild Wars that non-players assume does not exist.
My dork friends are all still playing EQ2.
Why?
First of all, they spout "Guild Wars only has 20 levels - how could it possibly be any good." (I send screenshots and they tell me they are doctored lol...)
Secondly, their logic follows, "And they don't even charge a fee to play it, so we know it's not any good."

Charge a fee, and these players will suddenly raise their eyebrows and say collectively, "hmm...maybe I will check that out."
Simple human psychology 101.

In closing, flame at will if you must, but the possibility of ANet adding a modest monthly fee would actually improve the gaming community as well as provide them with the resources to do bigger and better things.

/dons firesuit

Talesin
I have said this before. This is a ridiculous idea and possibly the worst. First things first. One of the biggest selling points for guild wars is the lack of an online fee. They make their money through team speak and through selling new material, in much the same way as the SIMS but obviously a whole lot better .

Within the game the skill system and skills take presecendance over time spent. Games like Diablo2 have you spending huge amounts of time collecting UBER items in order to even begin competing with other players. If you cannot invest huge amounts of time in the game then you are at a distinct disadvantage and might as well not play. Guild Wars however allows you to play without such fears. If you play an online game and pay a fee you are not going to play now and again. Since this a waste of money. Therefore an online fee is contridictory to the style of play ANet is trying to encourage.

Now if you look at most MMPORG's out there at the moment, you will realise that GW is a lot less feature rich. It appears the game has been designed with the notion in mind that it will never be fee based. Thus to make the game fee based would mean a revamp of the entire game engine, mission structure etc etc. Players would expect a more freeform environment and would expect a lot more from the game designers.

The fact that you brought this up shows that you have not clearly thought this through at all. Since it requires a complete reversal in Anets current thinking!

Damon Windwalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Wandering Gits

Here is why they should NOT start charging:

ANet advertized this game as being free of monthly fees. "A monthly fee will never be charged."

The day they start instituting a monthly fee after saying that they would never have a monthly fee is the day that I start (or join) a class action lawsuit. Not only is that highly unethical and immoral, it is also highly illegal.

Beta Ray Bill

Beta Ray Bill

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Frozen North

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damon Windwalker
Here is why they should NOT start charging:

ANet advertized this game as being free of monthly fees. "A monthly fee will never be charged."

The day they start instituting a monthly fee after saying that they would never have a monthly fee is the day that I start (or join) a class action lawsuit. Not only is that highly unethical and immoral, it is also highly illegal.
Though I'd be reluctant to start a class action, I think I'd probably join one.

The "no monthly fee, no hidden fees" was what sold me. There's no room in my budget for a monthly fee of any kind outside of phone, electric, water, mortgage, etc.

Besides, I firmly believe they'd never do it anyway. It's not their business model for GW. Renovating a business model is more than changing your approach to business; it's reorganizing your staff, changing your financial structure, adding new advertising to the budget... all in all a very EXPENSIVE proposition. It would take them a great deal of time to recover from the cost of the reorg. It's not a money-making deal for them.

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

I agree Beta Ray: It is NOT in ANet's best interest to go against their original advertising....at least at this point. They could, however, begin to explore 'pay to play' with expansions. Technically, they'd not be violating their "no monthly fee, no hidden fees" thing for the original GW. But the box I have doesn't say anything about future expansions.

Blaze

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Dragons of Legend

R/Mo

Monthly fee? Pshaw. I felt forced to play Everquest 2 because of the fee, and therefore, I only played for thre days... And then proceeded to lose interest.

And then there's Runescape. Swarming with idiots, not the best graphics, but for five dollars a month to become a member... The idiots are still there, but what you get isn't bad at all, with so many new skills and additions for members.

It's that simple. Charge for Guild Wars, and most people will leave, never to be seen again, and there will be a lot of idiots. It's a good game, and for fifty dollars, you get your money's worth. I've groyped with people on dial-up and 55k connections before, and it doesn't take too long for them to pop up-And so, for the 'casual gamer' or die-hard player, good game.

elthrain

elthrain

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Wa

R/Mo

I'm gonna say... ummm... NO! monthy fee=bad thats why this gane has done so well, at least 1 of the reasons, i can handel the people who are annoying if there is no monthly fee.

Beta Ray Bill

Beta Ray Bill

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Frozen North

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aniewiel
I agree Beta Ray: It is NOT in ANet's best interest to go against their original advertising....at least at this point. They could, however, begin to explore 'pay to play' with expansions. Technically, they'd not be violating their "no monthly fee, no hidden fees" thing for the original GW. But the box I have doesn't say anything about future expansions.
I don't have my box in front of me (I'm at work), but I seem to remember them saying "no monthly fees, no hidden costs, no additional charges ever" outside purchasing the software. They never seemed to mention expansions, but I was led to believe that future chapters would follow the same business model.

Besides, I don't know how they could institute monthly fees for expansion players and not for Chapter 1 players. There would be a great disparity between the haves and have-nots, even moreso than the extra chapter content would create. I think it would develop a "sense" in players that ANet is going back on their advertised promise no matter how much they tried to justify their new position. There's just too much potential for bad PR.

And you just know some litigation-happy lawyer will conjure up a class action lawsuit based on "false advertising" which, if nothing else, will drain capital from ANet's resources and prevent them from doing what they really want to do: continue working on a great game. If that happens, nobody wins, especially the devoted player.

Talesin Darkbriar

Talesin Darkbriar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

California - irrigated desert...

The Myrmidon

E/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Warrior Dood
if someone is caught for violating the EULA have them Branded on thier character for X amount of time. If they keep violating the rules after so many allowed violations then they are banned. I would think having a big red Brand right on thier character would let the community know what kind of A-hole they are. Or it it could be a big old Sandwich Board on thier front and back of thier character. Something to humiliate the violater and warn others of what they might be getting into if they deal with this person. You could wave your mouse over the character and then see a bubble stateing the crimes/violations commited.
I think this is as excellent idea.
Might I suggest the following placards?

"I'm a griefing A-hole"
"I scam newbies"
"I can't shut my foul spewing pie-hole"
"phallic-obsessed"

I'm certain ANet could put polite, but humorous lingo on the signs. Perhaps if violators agreed to wear these while online for 1 week worth of playing time (actual online hours) The placard would be removed. Otherwise, stronger measures should certainly apply.

Excellent Idea Old Warrior Dood.

Talesin

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aniewiel
Kids' parents paying their monthly fees is their way of making themselves feel 'involved' in their children's lives. They pay it to "keep them happy" and busy.

That and they don't have to listen to "MOMMY I WANT A TWANSFAWMAH!!!"

I wouldn't say the game isn't worth a monthly fee. I'll just say I wouldn't pay one.

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beta Ray Bill
I don't have my box in front of me (I'm at work), but I seem to remember them saying "no monthly fees, no hidden costs, no additional charges ever" outside purchasing the software. They never seemed to mention expansions, but I was led to believe that future chapters would follow the same business model.

Besides, I don't know how they could institute monthly fees for expansion players and not for Chapter 1 players. There would be a great disparity between the haves and have-nots, even moreso than the extra chapter content would create. I think it would develop a "sense" in players that ANet is going back on their advertised promise no matter how much they tried to justify their new position. There's just too much potential for bad PR.

And you just know some litigation-happy lawyer will conjure up a class action lawsuit based on "false advertising" which, if nothing else, will drain capital from ANet's resources and prevent them from doing what they really want to do: continue working on a great game. If that happens, nobody wins, especially the devoted player.
LOL! Exactly!

However they could argue (though it wouldn't be in their financial interests to do so) that "no monthly fee, no hidden costs EVER" only covered the original release.

But you're right about some class action happy internet ambulance chaser trying to make a stink about it.

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

Again this thread is straight out of Blizzards and Sonys Press room. Its nothing but propaganda trying to Force Guildwars to have a monthly fee to protect Worlds of Warcraft market share. nothing more, nothing less. you want to play a watered down game with monthly fees and exploits out the a$$ in the way people steal from the battlefield, and cheat by being allowed to buy gold and items from e-bay, then go play that game and leave us alone. your just freaking cause people are leaving Worlds of Warcraft every month in favor of a free open service which will always be GuildWars.

I would rather see them close the door completely then go to a monthly fee structure like the rest. If they ever do this I KNOW that they will loose Thousands of players. maybe even in the millions. It just becomes another worthless Everquest, or Words of Warcraft. both of which I have played both during beta and after release only to drop after the 1st month because I do not believe in a game that cost $50 only being playable for 1 month. If there is no single player mode or Free way to play the game NO game is worth $50 just for the right to be charged more to continue to play it.

My understanding is that the Sorrows Furnace update (FREE) is left over stuff from Chapter 1 that was unfinished from the launch. After that. beyond exploit repair there is not going to be anymore updates. The Tournament is something they had planed since the early betas, but it was something that needed more work. As such they continued work on it. I anticipate the markets to stabilize themselves in a matter of months. And the Influx of new supplies to the traders is set automatically on the server. so its not hard to manage. One person can effectively do it actually. The developers are going to make tweaks to the engine as they need too for Chapter 2 (paid) development, but beyond that, I doubt they will be making any major changes once Chapter 1 is finished. So people can talk till they are blue in the face and I doubt you will see anything changing after that last update.

Gbuslayer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by GraceAlone
I haven't read through the entire thread, sorry, but here is my 2 cents. If ANet starts charging for the game, then I will no longer play. The entire appel of GW for me was the no monthly fee. Personally I'm of the opinion that I bought the game, why should I have to continue, monthly, to buy the game? But that's just me. Personally it is easier to drop $50 once a year on a game then to spend $20 a month for a total of $240, over the course of a year. So I'm very glad that ANet will never charge
Well i've only read up to this point and just in reply to this type of thinking why should they pay thier employees thier wage until the game is done and then continue paying it after the game is completed, Without monthly fees those games can not exist in a state of perpetual motion having it worked on every day of the year(although not always updated daily) they still have to pay thier employees, people don't always realize that when a game is released the company backing it is already in the hole, seeing as how they have paid people to develop it for often times years before its release and then they pay to produce the games and manuals itself(as well as advertising)

Guild Wars was a risky venture at best, due to all of the above and because of thier no monthly fees you lose a lot of services such as any form of message board or direct contact with Devs or support staff via customer support

And instead of following thier own plan for things to come they try and appeal to the masses and hope it works out in the end

Guild Wars is on unstable ground at best, while there are no specific numbers that I have seen for guild wars I can only assume from my own experiences that the community has shrunk since release in my first guild after release I had to kick a good 20 people a month and a half after release due thier month long inactivity, as well as the 4 or 5 friends that I had before the game was released who have also been inactive for over a month due to the boredom, even I wane in this dark hour

TheGreatBoo

TheGreatBoo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

PA

Once again I'm a free agent. Quality guilds ahoy?

Adding a monthly fee will not be a miracle worker. No, I doubt that it will get rid of any dumbasses, noobs, or otherwise. What it will get rid of is people who appreciate the game, but simply can't afford to pay for it monthly. I for one, would have to lay down my {weapon of choice here} if they began charging a monthly fee. Yes, I do have a job, but its hard enough to pay for car insurance and the like. One of the major signing points that guildwars established was that it was free. This got a fair bit of attention. I almost purchased wow until I heard that this was free. I looked further into the game, and thankfully I picked up this game. I have a friend who purchased wow and ff11. In my opinion, both of them aren't as good as guildwars. And yes, they are loaded with obnoxious brats who think that their time and money entitles them to godhood. In most cases, it's not even their money. When I picture grievers and morons, a snotty rich kid tends to come to mind. When you have to work for money, you begin to appreciate its value. There is no debate here. All adding a monthly fee would do is decrease the number of good players, and instead of limiting the number of bad players, it would instead make them believe that their opinion is the word of some god. Their ego's don't need any more boosting.

Gbuslayer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

don't take me wrong here, I am in no way agreeing to the monthly fee, for that would be suicidal at this point for arena net, half thier user base likely has no way to pay for the game nor would wish to do so
And as for comments about purchasing additional expansions at later dates that information was out there when I bought the game after the second preview event and I purchased it knowing that it was quite possible they could charge for them(although they stated that any expansions to be purcahsed would add atleast as much content as was already in the game

Blow_Holez

Blow_Holez

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Mascoutah, Illinois

Dragon Busters (DB)

R/Me

hey, all i did was read the forum title, not read a single thing said in this thread but.. HELL NO! Thats a good enough arguemnt for me!

Quote:
Sorry to double post, but i do see where the creator of this thread was going. Maybe charging lik 2 dollars a month would't be bad... Anet would still make a milloin or so a month lol. Still, I do not want monthly fees!
***added the double post part to this original post to keep you under the "no double posts" count***

Somhairle Isis

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

KILLinois

Defiant Fist

W/Mo

What makes this game so good is the constant streamlined data, the depth, the fun, etc etc ALL FOR FREE!

I abhorr the idea of pay to play. I don't think ANY game should be pay to play.
Think about it this way. You pay 40 bucks for a pay to play MMO and then 15 dollars a month.

In one year you've spent 220 dollars on a game. THAT, I don't care HOW you look at it, is theft.

TheGreatBoo

TheGreatBoo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

PA

Once again I'm a free agent. Quality guilds ahoy?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Somhairle Isis
I abhorr the idea of pay to play.
Oh, nice word choice. Thats quite a vocabulary you've got on you there somhairle haha.

Guild Master

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/W

I looked at WoW and the monthly fee alone, despite all of the fun content it has in there, made me avoid it at all costs. Guild Wars is just as fun, but without a monthly fee. Guild Wars is tended towards casual players who want to have fun in an online community without putting themselves in debt. Adding monthly fees will not get rid of the people who ruin the game, but instead get rid of the fans who loved the game for everything about the game that makes it good. If I wanted to play a non-linear Guild Wars with a monthly fee, I would play World of Warcraft or Star Wars Galaxies. Guild Wars is a game Arenanet made for people to enjoy without paying for every month. Arenanet will never make a monthly fee for expansion packs, as an update, a marketing ploy, etc., period.

slasc

slasc

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

[MSSB] My Sister's Stinky Box

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talesin Darkbriar
In California, we have some really nice parks and they used to be free admission.
After years of people defacing monuments, vandalizing park property and features, and generally making asses of themselves to everyone else's detriment, the parks instituted a entrance fee.

Problem solved.

You see, griefers on a whole don't want to pay a fee to destroy something for everyone else. They'd rather go where its free admission.

Talesin
Dude, California is not exactly a state I would model anything after. No offense, but there's a reason it couldn't pay it's own electric bills. My point is not to diss California though (it's a beautiful state), but rather to state this :

The reason people complain is because something is not working the way they were a.) expecting b.) wanting or c.) needing it to.

I have several disappointments with this game. I've stated many of them here in this very forum as I've raised a few ideas for improvement. If I was WILLING to pay a monthly fee, this would not be that game I'd play.

If they EVER start charging a monthly fee in ANY way/shape/form I will be gone.

You might come back and say that i must be one of those stupid people. Those idiots. Those complainers. (Well, I guess I do complain in the form of suggestions.) The truth is, I play decently well. I am not one of the people drawing xxx pics on the mini-map. I don't ridicule noobs. If I don't like a group, I leave. I don't start groups just to leave. I don't even play with groups most of the time anymore to avoid the very people you mention. However, they have as much of a right to play this game as you or I do. Deal with it.

(speaking of joining groups and then having people ditch out...
/temporary change of subject for story time :
I was in a group in Divinity Coast the other day. The character I was on was a mesmer, and the second lowest person in th group. The lowest was a monk. Halfway through the map, the higher levels started laughing and dropped out. (stupid bastards) Then, the next two gave up and dropped. Me and the monk, the lowest two levels of the original group finished that map on our own. That may have been the funnest mission I've ever run because we had to be damn clever to make that work.)

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jwh6913
the day they start charging, I will leave GW forever
/signed.

i bought this game because they made the 'no fee' promise. that, and the game is just good.

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talesin Darkbriar
I think this is as excellent idea.
Might I suggest the following placards?

"I'm a griefing A-hole"
"I scam newbies"
"I can't shut my foul spewing pie-hole"
"phallic-obsessed"

I'm certain ANet could put polite, but humorous lingo on the signs. Perhaps if violators agreed to wear these while online for 1 week worth of playing time (actual online hours) The placard would be removed. Otherwise, stronger measures should certainly apply.

Excellent Idea Old Warrior Dood.

Talesin
/signed!
sorry for double post...

SOT

SOT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

East Texas

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Warrior Dood
Talesin Darkbriar layed a post out in the open. It is not a popular post...but, he at least used his brain and made a suggestion. Build on that suggestion instead of attacking it. It is easier to Destroy then Build.
SOE propoganda is not an idea any of us who love this game WILL, SHOULD, or CAN take seriously. What he did was not offer a solution to some rampant problem that anet has on its hands. What he did was post a mega rant about people who piss him off, personally, and made it a broader confrontation by insinuating a random % of people who he believes to be idiots in a game that is being played by many many people. Apparently, his pissoff should be mine, and I disagree.

As before, if you cannot ignore someone, or swap districts, then you belong offline. Trying to start a monthly fee discussion of any kind is intentionally anarchic, and is designed to get the responses that inevitably arrived. That is not seeking solutions, that is causing problems on purpose. Therefore, this thread has no merit at all.

Methuselah

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

GWAA

N/E

I agree with most of the posts here. If there were a fee, I would not be playing. I have long looked at MMORGs and never played due to the fact that some months I might have lots of gaming time, others none at all. Why would I want to pay a fee for something I would not use to the fullest?

Guild Wars offers an opportunity to play with my friends in a RPG setting for free. I dont have problems with "idiots" online because its easy to ignore idiots. I have been playing quite a bit the past few months and have only had two or three groups I joined that I felt people were playing like "idiots". I either ignored them or left.

Just keep play within your own guild or if you dont like who is playing, just like changing the TV channel or radio station, find a new game!

I also agree that the monthly fee would only give people more ammunition to whine because now they are paying for a service.

You will NEVER keep any online game "idiot" free, the larger the group...the more stupid people you have...just like in real life.

KEEP GW FREE !!

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

you dont need a monthly fee , the morons will leave , give it some time ... the game just started

Nad

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talesin Darkbriar
I think this is as excellent idea.
Might I suggest the following placards?

"I'm a griefing A-hole"
"I scam newbies"
"I can't shut my foul spewing pie-hole"
"phallic-obsessed"

I'm certain ANet could put polite, but humorous lingo on the signs. Perhaps if violators agreed to wear these while online for 1 week worth of playing time (actual online hours) The placard would be removed. Otherwise, stronger measures should certainly apply.
Talesin
OMG that is the best thing ive heard in this tread so far. I would freaking love to have "I'm a griefing A-hole" over my head, so people in the arena know whats comming!!

Digitalblast

Digitalblast

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Calgary AB.

Wanta Fanta [WTF] mo/mes, war/el, nec/ra

E/N

This thread sucks. close and ban please.

Bloods

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

This suggestion really sucks...
in my suggestion, if you want bad manner'ed people to stop, squelch them.

eveler890

eveler890

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

California

[Lisz],[Pain],[hgm]

Mo/

I love guild Wars but lack the disposable income to constanty pay a monthly fee for a game - i need food and rent and college money and there are only so many hours a week that one perosn can work. I would be incradably sad if guildwars started charging because i would have to leave the first game i have fould in a LONG time that i actually enjoyed playing. my recommendation is to shut off your chat window. plz close this thread it is negitive and hurts alot of people

bobrath

bobrath

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Scouts of Tyria

Of course dragging it up from 2 weeks of obscurity (last post before yours was 7/21)probably doesn't help either...

Snuk the Great

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Glow in the Dark

R/Me

well, still want to loose my egg here (lol, dont think this is used in english. It means give my opinion cause I need too :P.)
Anway, they could not even add a fee. That would be doing the opposite of what they say that they would do. Besides, this game is such a succes because it is free.
Ah oke, feels a lot better, you can close em now :P.

zehly

zehly

Sunshine

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Wired

Daughters of Ananke

Mo/E

This idea is almost as absurd as saying, "OK -- GPL software is no longer free, you must pay for all your GPL'd software." HELL NO.

Charge me for the game? Better hope I don't find the corporate bastard who signed off on that one... I'll shove a nice "Ebon Foot of Fortitude" up his....

*EDIT* Do you honestly think this game was cheap for a college student, computer hacker like me? I had to budget it in between the porn, anime, and Starbucks...