I have noticed over last few days to week less & less people around, if I had to make a guess % I would say 20-30% less people about.
I am based in Australia so yes my play time is usually USA bed time, but I have played since GW was release world wide, and that was like 2 months ago and just this last week ive noticed alot less people about.
I only have 1 assumption for why this is, Tombs mission, its VERY HARD to get a group that can survive the first round let alone get all the way through, and everyday you don't make it ELITE teams are getting better.
I was in a almost perfect group made it through all the challenges and was 1 challenge away from getting to HoH, soon as the map started and other team names poped up - we saw Sissy Boys as one of the oposition, first thought from everyone was they will win we will lose.
Well we didnt ever get to see em some asian group killed us real quick. Which was weird as we killed alloposition upto that point pretty fast and easy, and to be killed so fast in final challenge was so depressing.
SO unless you in a guild group who know each others strengths & weakness's and unless yoru team is perfectly setup ie (smite group - or shutdown group) you havent got a chance.
I have been trying to get to HoH from Tombs since week one of GW and never have made it, I have made 3 lvl 20's now my main now is a healing monk, and I do a real good job but still never have made it.
Thats why I think people are either leaving or playing far less, because you don't stand a chance in Tombs - I can't even begin to contemplate how hard HoH is if Tombs is so hard to get through.
GW already dying off?
Zaxon
Swarnt Brightstar
One time I got pretty close... I got my butt handed to my on a silver platter lined with gold filled with rubies...
but yeah, I do notice less and less people goin on... I am US too
but yeah, I do notice less and less people goin on... I am US too
KingKryton
everytime i have made it to HoH we lose cus all the other teams are korean or we have had some ppl DC and by sheer luck. Half time the other team seems so shit but sumhow they win????? im sure there are cheats around by now.
Gbuslayer
Holy you racist , the koreans are no better or worse than us, they simply plan more, they don't play any more than the hardcore gamers from the states, theres simply more of them
there are no cheats as far as I know there are macros but there aren't any programs smart enough to be able to predict a randomly generated team of people who make mistakes and do things quite randomly
As for less people at any given time yes, but only because people aren't spending every minute of thier spare time, I do know quite a few who stopped playing altogether but they stopped a month ago or so, most everyone else simply plays less since theres not enough to do, there needs to be an objective beyond the hoh and the end of the game . . . customizing guild halls or even creating your own lot somehow that you could customize
there are no cheats as far as I know there are macros but there aren't any programs smart enough to be able to predict a randomly generated team of people who make mistakes and do things quite randomly
As for less people at any given time yes, but only because people aren't spending every minute of thier spare time, I do know quite a few who stopped playing altogether but they stopped a month ago or so, most everyone else simply plays less since theres not enough to do, there needs to be an objective beyond the hoh and the end of the game . . . customizing guild halls or even creating your own lot somehow that you could customize
Silver Spectre
Guild halls should have hang out spots where only your guild can enter and just chat...
Guild storage.
Comps
Expansion soon would help.
More advertisment?
I know plenty of people who are geting the game FOR summer..... exam time remember!!!
Guild storage.
Comps
Expansion soon would help.
More advertisment?
I know plenty of people who are geting the game FOR summer..... exam time remember!!!
hassoon
Yes theres less people,but thats hardly a surprise.You can only do so much and then the game becomes major boreing.Lack of content major nerfs every time you turn around etc.I am sure this is all part of ANs battle plan,sell a ton of games then annoy the PvE crowd into leaving.Saves a lot of money on bandwidth,and theres a good chance most will return with the next expansion.There will remain a hardcore group who lack the time to play a lot,and the 12 year old PvP crowd. Acctually its pretty shrewd on ANs part.
Algren Cole
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Holy you racist , the koreans are no better or worse than us, they simply plan more, they don't play any more than the hardcore gamers from the states, theres simply more of them
there are no cheats as far as I know there are macros but there aren't any programs smart enough to be able to predict a randomly generated team of people who make mistakes and do things quite randomly |
you can't honestly believe that....there are hacks for this game...whether or not they are publicly available I don't know.
Ketendra
of course there are hacks for this game (try and name a single game that doesnt have at least one) But I think Gbuslayer was more upset that the previous poster implied that the Koreans only win due to hacks.
Sledge
I dunno.
Got on my new w/n in old ascholon and started out in district 36.
Perchance alot of people have began new chracters?
And my elementalist started out in a pretty high district also.
Never know, maybe everyone made new guys at the same time.
Got on my new w/n in old ascholon and started out in district 36.
Perchance alot of people have began new chracters?
And my elementalist started out in a pretty high district also.
Never know, maybe everyone made new guys at the same time.
Firestreak
Lol, Although it's probably the same for us, it certainly doesn't help that you can't pronounce the name of the Korean you're trying to attack.
However, if you take into account 2 things.
1. The technology in Korea is a heck of a lot less than in America and Europe, computer wise, and
2. Koreans do the exact same thing's that we do (Either have guild member pvp battles, teamspeak battles, or random group battles), and we get destroyed by them
I honestly think that Korean's do cheat. On one occasion I was attacking an enemy and literally none of my skills had their effect take place on the enemy. I'm not being racist, it's just an incredibly unfortunate thing that exists in the game.
On a side note, the 4 vs 4 arenas needs a HoH style thing, and we need to introduce 1v1 arenas.
However, if you take into account 2 things.
1. The technology in Korea is a heck of a lot less than in America and Europe, computer wise, and
2. Koreans do the exact same thing's that we do (Either have guild member pvp battles, teamspeak battles, or random group battles), and we get destroyed by them
I honestly think that Korean's do cheat. On one occasion I was attacking an enemy and literally none of my skills had their effect take place on the enemy. I'm not being racist, it's just an incredibly unfortunate thing that exists in the game.
On a side note, the 4 vs 4 arenas needs a HoH style thing, and we need to introduce 1v1 arenas.
Child of Mars
define 'no effect on the enemy'... there's probably some skill combo being used there... obsidian flesh, spellbreaker etc.
Alathys Tylderaan
I can quite honestly say that Korean players do not cheat. What I can say is that Korea has a huge gaming culture and it can end up with a lot of pressure on Korean players to win, and as such they practice far more than any of us would consider healthy and they really do use some great builds. They also have a great sense of teamwork, something i find lacking in US and EU teams.
Santosh
Have ANY of you been to Korea? Don't start assuming you know what Korean gaming is all about until you've been there, please.
Korean gaming is a big time entertainment industry there. Did you know that good PC players in Korea get star status? I mean, they are treated like Hollywood stars, with endorsements and paychecks. Yes, they get paid! Much like superstar athletes we have here in America. They actually get paid to play a game. That is why they can spend a lot of their time planning strategy, customizing their characters, etc. And GW is NOT the only online game they are good at.
So there, now you know.
Don't believe me? Check this: http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/sp...ing1&pagenum=1
Korean gaming is a big time entertainment industry there. Did you know that good PC players in Korea get star status? I mean, they are treated like Hollywood stars, with endorsements and paychecks. Yes, they get paid! Much like superstar athletes we have here in America. They actually get paid to play a game. That is why they can spend a lot of their time planning strategy, customizing their characters, etc. And GW is NOT the only online game they are good at.
So there, now you know.
Don't believe me? Check this: http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/sp...ing1&pagenum=1
crazy diamond
The game has been out for what, like a month? And already people are saying its dying out?
When you get to high leveled areas, yeah it looks pretty empty, but take a trip back to pre-searing or early post-searing Ascalon and you'll see the game still has thousands of new players starting out. It's not dead yet by a long shot.
As for the Koreans, if they realy were cheating so much, they'd probably have favor all the frickin' time. But in reality US and Korea are pretty much neck and neck at holding favor. I think its just sour grapes on the losers part, blaming it on cheats instead of their lack of skill.
When you get to high leveled areas, yeah it looks pretty empty, but take a trip back to pre-searing or early post-searing Ascalon and you'll see the game still has thousands of new players starting out. It's not dead yet by a long shot.
As for the Koreans, if they realy were cheating so much, they'd probably have favor all the frickin' time. But in reality US and Korea are pretty much neck and neck at holding favor. I think its just sour grapes on the losers part, blaming it on cheats instead of their lack of skill.
Night Daftshadow
I still the same amount of people playing Guild Wars since the first day it was release until now. Some districts are full with players while others are less. But there's a lot of players though.
Most of the time I see America and Korea holding the favors. Europe is the weak link. I hardly see Europe with the favors.
Most of the time I see America and Korea holding the favors. Europe is the weak link. I hardly see Europe with the favors.
shinseikaze
i play occasionally now for UW/Fissure runs......but yes I agree more end game content would definately help
PS Koreans don't cheat some of them are better than us why others we are better than them
PS Koreans don't cheat some of them are better than us why others we are better than them
XENOGEARSHARINGAN
yeah true it is frustrating to loose but it just a game lets remind ourselfs that. i am too getint pretty bored beacuase not enough content was put into game, which you could have known from starty beacouse many magazines rated this as a pvp game. but this is a frustrating pvp game beacouse not many of us will always want to do battle at tombs. also most of the time while your trying to do battle you are either picked or never picked depending on your class, which i found ranger wer not getting chosen enough. so in a way we are being outcasted in a game which is funny, and koreans do kick our ass sometimes but couse i agree they do have better teamwork than most of us. and as for the new areas i think they will be kinda if not imposible for most people to make it there. since you have to go true lomars pass, into camp rankor in order to access areas. hey is ther another way to get to camp rankor it seams you can get there true draknor forge?
Marc Grahamsworth
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Have ANY of you been to Korea? Don't start assuming you know what Korean gaming is all about until you've been there, please.
Korean gaming is a big time entertainment industry there. Did you know that good PC players in Korea get star status? I mean, they are treated like Hollywood stars, with endorsements and paychecks. Yes, they get paid! Much like superstar athletes we have here in America. They actually get paid to play a game. That is why they can spend a lot of their time planning strategy, customizing their characters, etc. And GW is NOT the only online game they are good at. So there, now you know. Don't believe me? Check this: http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/sp...ing1&pagenum=1 |
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Akilles
just what i was gonna say, koreans are prolly the most fanatical gamers world wide. the gamer ration is like 1:1!!!! The spend TONS of time in internet game cafes and since they pay i am sure they dont intend to lose! lol
also, i played with some koreans, they do stratagize b4 every battle, and above al excercise PATIENCE!!! something that 1% of americans actually have. I love my USA but we have no patience, drive our roads, wait in a line of 5 or more ppl at mcdonalds and u know what i mean.
They just need good american leaders out there. AND DO WHAT THEY SAY!!!
PS.
if you ever want to game to get to the HoH then get both TS and Ventrillo.
also, i played with some koreans, they do stratagize b4 every battle, and above al excercise PATIENCE!!! something that 1% of americans actually have. I love my USA but we have no patience, drive our roads, wait in a line of 5 or more ppl at mcdonalds and u know what i mean.
They just need good american leaders out there. AND DO WHAT THEY SAY!!!
PS.
if you ever want to game to get to the HoH then get both TS and Ventrillo.
Eos
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i am too getint pretty bored beacuase not enough content was put into game, which you could have known from starty beacouse many magazines rated this as a pvp game... hey is ther another way to get to camp rankor it seams you can get there true draknor forge?
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Anyway, I work at an EB Games in the evening, and today I sold a copy of BF2 to almost everyone I sold a copy of Guild Wars a month and a half ago. Its the same group of people over and over, that always move on to the next "hot thing". I'll probably pick up BF2 in a month or two so don't get me wrong, but the majority of these people are idiots, and its good that they are moving on. Hopefully the crowd will thin out nicely.
Ishamael Sedai
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Have ANY of you been to Korea? Don't start assuming you know what Korean gaming is all about until you've been there, please.
Korean gaming is a big time entertainment industry there. Did you know that good PC players in Korea get star status? I mean, they are treated like Hollywood stars, with endorsements and paychecks. Yes, they get paid! Much like superstar athletes we have here in America. They actually get paid to play a game. That is why they can spend a lot of their time planning strategy, customizing their characters, etc. And GW is NOT the only online game they are good at. So there, now you know. Don't believe me? Check this: http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/sp...ing1&pagenum=1 |
I can believe what you say but what does setting foot in Korea have to do with any of this? I haven't set foot in Washington DC lately and can still know what is going on there. I haven't set foot in France and could find out what is going on there. Someone could go to Korea without it having anything to do with videogames. Good overall point, but a bad way to start your point.
Shadowdaemon
i can tell people are playing less lately just from my guild members, it used to be about 30 of the 50 were on at all times, lately its more like 5-10 of em
also, koreans arent any better than anyone else, you people are just racists
also, koreans arent any better than anyone else, you people are just racists
mr. big popo
Bah Gw Isnt Dying Thats Bs
Ellestar
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SO unless you in a guild group who know each others strengths & weakness's and unless yoru team is perfectly setup ie (smite group - or shutdown group) you havent got a chance.
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To noob whiners in this thread:
Yeah, sure, Koreans cheat, other groups suck and they win only by cheating. They call that cheat "skill and teamwork".
βlitzkrieg
Yeah it is bloody hard to teams to get in now days.
I used to get in about everyday for a round or two, but I haven't been in in ages, and same groups are owning it over and over again.
Don't know how you'd fix that though
I used to get in about everyday for a round or two, but I haven't been in in ages, and same groups are owning it over and over again.
Don't know how you'd fix that though
Manderlock
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So just join a guild. What's the problem? If you want to win, then you should always be in a guild in any competitive team-based game.
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OOOoooooo burned
Its not going down hill,. Im shure that there are people like me who will break then come back after a while. I did it with D2, Ill do it with GW.
bee65n
1. The technology in Korea is a heck of a lot less than in America and Europe, computer wise, and
Lmao. Why do you people talk if you are ignorant?
Lmao. Why do you people talk if you are ignorant?
Wa$d
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1. The technology in Korea is a heck of a lot less than in America and Europe, computer wise,
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βlitzkrieg
Koreans don't cheat - there are no cheats as of yet.
Koreans are clever, and think more than the average snotty-nosed yank who moans and complains, and blames everything on other people. They are a much closer culture than western, and this helps them immensly when planning/playing.
Koreans are clever, and think more than the average snotty-nosed yank who moans and complains, and blames everything on other people. They are a much closer culture than western, and this helps them immensly when planning/playing.
Manderlock
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Koreans don't cheat - there are no cheats as of yet.
Koreans are clever, and think more than the average snotty-nosed yank who moans and complains, and blames everything on other people. They are a much closer culture than western, and this helps them immensly when planning/playing. |
Yea, thoughs damn yanks get on my nerves too.
Im from Texas therfore NOT a yank.
Wa$d
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I can believe what you say but what does setting foot in Korea have to do with any of this? I haven't set foot in Washington DC lately and can still know what is going on there. I haven't set foot in France and could find out what is going on there. Someone could go to Korea without it having anything to do with videogames. Good overall point, but a bad way to start your point.
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........sure you do, yeah go to CNN and read all the bias articals there or MSN or, WNBC, or CBS, or for the best biasness go to turn on the radio and listen to NPR aka nation public radio aka stronghold of the left aka mount everest of bias, and you Know what happens in France huh........i bet the politions in DC thought they did to until they found out about weapons deals in iraq......you know all Ishamael Sedai, all there is to be know and the guy you were critizing makes a better point than you ever will.
Aaaaagh
I would have to think it is common for any game on release to experience a high burst...which can inevitably only be followed by some type of decline.
Am I noticing less players at late nights? Yes. Does this mean players are leaving? Sure, players are leaving, but newbs are buying too, the initial excitement has worn off and players simply arent dedicating all their free time to play.
If I had to guess, I would expect the numbers of players on at one time to drop further still, then stay pretty stable until an expansion, where there will be another burst of player numbers.
Keep in mind, Im a moron and this is all propaganda.
Am I noticing less players at late nights? Yes. Does this mean players are leaving? Sure, players are leaving, but newbs are buying too, the initial excitement has worn off and players simply arent dedicating all their free time to play.
If I had to guess, I would expect the numbers of players on at one time to drop further still, then stay pretty stable until an expansion, where there will be another burst of player numbers.
Keep in mind, Im a moron and this is all propaganda.
Wa$d
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Koreans don't cheat - there are no cheats as of yet.
Koreans are clever, and think more than the average snotty-nosed yank who moans and complains, and blames everything on other people. They are a much closer culture than western, and this helps them immensly when planning/playing. |
, but Korean's are much smarter than us, and coming from a right wing nationalist, this really pains me to say this, btu just look at their school systems.
βlitzkrieg
I don't think they're smarter, just use their brains more effectively, and and don't act like little morons at puberty.
hassoon
Koreans per se are not smarter than us.They are much better educated,and much more focused.You won't likely see the korean PvP crowd screaming for instant gratification,IE no work gimme everything for nothing that will be the Amarican side.Also their technology broadband wise is far superior.
Louis Ste Colombe
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1. The technology in Korea is a heck of a lot less than in America and Europe, computer wise...
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I'd say that Korea and Japan are way ahead both US and Europe as far as computer technology, network or cellphone (not that it matters...) are concerned. That's personnal experience speaking...
You need to travel a bit, maybe
Louis,
RTSFirebat
Maybe this thread should be locked... seems to be giving a negtive image of the game and making people talk all kinds of rubbish.
Shamblemonkee
I think some people are maybe getting confused between North and South Korea 
Syncrosonix
cool, if the idiots are dying out....does that mean i can finally start being apart of competent groups during co-op missions? i'm so sick and tired of people bailing once the shit hits the fan, their death penalty drops below -20%, impatient people dropping out simply because we're not moving at a pace they would like, or we're going a little too quick for their likings, arguing with fellow teammates who don't like one another from a pvp fight, claiming the other cheated or whatever, or we decide the bonus should be done some other time down the road.
hassoon
No because it will be the idiots who stay while the more mature people leave.