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Originally Posted by Aramon
Dunes of Despair (Completion of Mission) - 12.5k
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Droknar's Rushers
Lasher Dragon
kleps
i'd never pay anyone to do a mission for me. i'd rather find a pug or do it with henchies. i've only paid for a droknar's run and more often times now you can find people that will give free runs.
Kishin
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Originally Posted by Aramon
These are some prices for runs Anton Hanneman and I do.
Beacon's to Droknar's Forge - 10k Elona Reach (Completion of Mission) - 4k Dunes of Despair (Completion of Mission) - 12.5k Ascalon City to Droknar's Forge - 25k We will also do custom jobs if asked, for the right amount. Our prices are a little higher than others, because we feel we provide the best and fastest service available. When you want to get somewhere on the map fast, Trust LRS! |
Seriously, that's such a scam its almost ludicrous. 12K for a mission people can sleep walk through? My guild group and I spent the last five minutes of Dunes playing Rock, Paper, Scissors with each other on the altar while the Ghostly Hero did that voodoo he does so well.
P.S. Considering the standard rate for Droknar's runs is around 4-5K, and seems even to be trending downwards lately, your customers are either nonexistent, or supreme dunces who haven't been to Beacon's Perch long enough to see the pricing.
4thVariety
I can't see what is wrong with using the pass. It's not more of a challenge than ascension, only better. This is not the game telling you what to do. This is you having this idea of going there. And while the designers could just turn it off, they in fact did not. Instead they put more malice into this thing than Sauron in all his rings. They show you that they don't like what you are trying. they make you miserable and suffer on each step. but still, it can be done; the designers gave you a fighting chance. without exploits, without tons of cash from other characters. And if you don't like my buying the armor afterwards then get a fresh character around level 18, never mule him anything, don't beg other people to donate you stuff. Then PM me, meet me at Beacon's Pearch and we have a not so short walk outside. I'll WALK you there, no fee involved. If we're in Droknar you will simply smile at all those Lvl12 guys because you realize they missed on hell of a ride and you didn't. I'm still two missions away from ascension but I don't hink they are nearly that much fun. On my next character I will do the same thing. Going to Droknar via the Lornar before Ascension.
Then of course I met some supposedly pro clan players today, who thought they would simply rush their latest lvl17 member over the pass by means of their lvl20 characters. I helped them, I warned them, they did not believe me and turned around after 25 minutes. Since then Lornar is in my opinion the greatest gift to all the real old school players who remember just how hard games used to be.
Then of course I met some supposedly pro clan players today, who thought they would simply rush their latest lvl17 member over the pass by means of their lvl20 characters. I helped them, I warned them, they did not believe me and turned around after 25 minutes. Since then Lornar is in my opinion the greatest gift to all the real old school players who remember just how hard games used to be.
Mitsu Bishi
To those telling us the exploit is in dead low-lvls getting resurrected automatically on the port from area to area - what if they would stay alive? Just stay outside of Beacon's Perch and wait for the runner to complete his job? Just stay at the beginning of Dreadnought's (might be difficult because the mobs are jam packed around the portal) and at the beginning of Snake Dance? You're also getting ported alive - the dying isn't necessary, it's just to enjoy the view (a good runner won't need any meatshields).
I don't consider it an exploit (haven't been runned, made it through the missions) and won't mind when people use it. It's cheesy to go to the low-lvl arenas with Droknar's armor and Elite skills from the areas around but the random arenas are too random to call it unfair. Next time there's one of those people on your team. Just have fun.
I don't consider it an exploit (haven't been runned, made it through the missions) and won't mind when people use it. It's cheesy to go to the low-lvl arenas with Droknar's armor and Elite skills from the areas around but the random arenas are too random to call it unfair. Next time there's one of those people on your team. Just have fun.
Lost
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Originally Posted by Aramon
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JMFD
I faught my way down through lornars to rankor to forge with my first character in a well-coordinated group. When I got to beacons with my second character I really, really didn't have the patience to do it again.
A very friendly w/m called Lord Bleyz offered the solution in a 3k rush (back when they were going for up to 10k) So I took it, and made some friends on the way.
A very friendly w/m called Lord Bleyz offered the solution in a 3k rush (back when they were going for up to 10k) So I took it, and made some friends on the way.
Anton H
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Originally Posted by Lost
I hope you meant Thirsty River instead, and even then no mission is worth more than 1k (and only if you're desperate I suppose, I personally would never pay). Dunes can be done with a group of level 10s.
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Dunes is part of the ascension package... mostly due to it being so utterly boring that it alone is not worth nearly any amount.
To a question asked earlier:
Rushing Ice Dome is impossible. Period. Therefore you need to hitch a ride at Ice Caves to make the Citadel from Droknars via starting at Iron Mines.
GranDeWun
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Originally Posted by 4thVariety
I can't see what is wrong with using the pass. It's not more of a challenge than ascension, only better. ...Since then Lornar is in my opinion the greatest gift to all the real old school players who remember just how hard games used to be.
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PS: So I did it from the other direction with the lvl 20 henchies. At least they don't quit.
Lasher Dragon
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Originally Posted by Anton H
Rushing Ice Dome is impossible. Period. Therefore you need to hitch a ride at Ice Caves to make the Citadel from Droknars via starting at Iron Mines.
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Shadowfox1125
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Originally Posted by Itbegins
the funny thing i have had 3 of the same people above rush me my favorite by far tho is.
Graka ekieron-charges 5k when you get there Thirty round clip-5k when you get there |
I must have been lucky, he only charged 3k me upon arrival at Draknor's Forge.
He had a person stay at the portal just in case he was about to die.
pretty smart.
Bormil Stonemight
I get a real kick out of ruining business for everyone charging 5k when my partner and I come through Perch for 5+, up to 15ish free runs a day. We get some decent income from donations, but that's not at all a reason for running it. Mostly it's for the joy of racing one another, helping people, and of course out of spite for all of you greedy bastards who charge insane amounts to simply walk somewhere.
CharSol
Does anyone know any trusted runners on european? I can find 6 thousand noobie people screaming for runs but not a single person offering them
SOT
I will personally pay 25-30k for someone to run me to Droknar's Forge, and I will pay 15k up front.
Lasherdragon, I know you from the game and here, so I trust any rec you make.
Lasherdragon, I know you from the game and here, so I trust any rec you make.
lishi
25-30k??
first time i paid 4k
second time i nice pretty girl in bikini runs me for 1k ...
first time i paid 4k
second time i nice pretty girl in bikini runs me for 1k ...
Red Sonya
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Originally Posted by CharSol
Does anyone know any trusted runners on european? I can find 6 thousand noobie people screaming for runs but not a single person offering them
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Precision
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Originally Posted by CharSol
Does anyone know any trusted runners on european? I can find 6 thousand noobie people screaming for runs but not a single person offering them
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Lampshade
lol I couldnt get my characters rushed.
I havnt been able to beat the mirror for 3 hours.
I havnt been able to beat the mirror for 3 hours.
Age
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Originally Posted by p0t4T0
I admit, ive rushed a few low levels to Droknar, but i only charged 5k each :P
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Anton H
Any Europeans desiring a run can message me. I have ran many Euros before. 
I have lowered my fare to 5k in lieu of recent shortfalls in pricing across the game.
-Anton.
I have lowered my fare to 5k in lieu of recent shortfalls in pricing across the game.
-Anton.
plouyd
i pay 5k for a run from Ascalon to my friend. Yuki Five Rings..
probably will run you for 2k from beacons.. the first time i made a new char and had it ran he didnt die once the whole time
probably will run you for 2k from beacons.. the first time i made a new char and had it ran he didnt die once the whole time
entropy
lol i think your friend ran me 2 though it was on donations... to droknars
SJG
Lowered you price from Beacons Perch to Droknars to 5K? That's terribly expensive, I think the normal price seems to be 2-3K. I mean, it's not like it even particularly difficult.
wheel
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Originally Posted by SJG
Lowered you price from Beacons Perch to Droknars to 5K? That's terribly expensive, I think the normal price seems to be 2-3K. I mean, it's not like it even particularly difficult.
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Orochim4ru
I've gotten incredibly speedy runs for free... i dont' really care if he's been doing these runs since dinosaurs roamed the earth: 5k is a rip
wheel
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Originally Posted by Orochim4ru
I've gotten incredibly speedy runs for free... i dont' really care if he's been doing these runs since dinosaurs roamed the earth: 5k is a rip
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Old Dood
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Originally Posted by wheel
He can charge whatever he wants to charge, and if people want to pay 5k to be rushed, then that's great. He's not ripping anyone off, and they're not getting ripped off. Back when I rushed, I charged 8k, and people would pay that solely based on my reputation from the forums as a rusher. At the time the going rate of a rush was 4-5k, yet people still paid it because they were familiar with me, trusted me, and generally just prefered me rather than the other rushers. They were aware of the competition, yet they paid the extra amount. What YOU view as a ripoff isn't going to be the case for everybody. You may find value in spending time looking for a budget rusher, while other people find value in watching an expert rush and paying a little more for the name brand. You really have no basis of argument for calling his prices a ripoff.
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When I am in Beacon's Perch and I see people quoting 5K and up for a rush, I let all the people know in the open chat those prices are too high. Wait around or change districts and they will find it much cheaper.
I was charged 1.5K for my rush. The guy was a nice person. He showed us the view, the dwarfs getting wiped out,etc. He even wanted us to try to make it with him just to show us how hard it is. I made it about half way.
So when people say it is a rip-off to charge 5K I have to agree with them. The market has changed. More competition has driven the price down.
SJG
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Originally Posted by wheel
Anton is one of the best runners out there, he's been doing this before you even knew droknars rushing existed. his previous price was 10k, so yes it is a large price drop. he's one of the fastest rushers there is, and he can charge whatever price he wants. when you pay that extra 2-3k, you're paying for a show, not just to get there. plus, he's guaranteed to get you there, none of this "i've made 40 (read: 0) runs before, my price is 2k"
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How much faster can one runner be than another? I never really stop when I'm doing the run, so there's not alot of variability in it.
Paying 2-3K for a show? Well, I suppose if that's what people want. Although I'd be surprised if many were willing to pay double price for a "show". Sure he can charge what he wants to, but that doesn't stop it being steep.
As for being guaranteed to get you there, how difficult is it? Once you have the right skills it's a doddle. Do any runners regularly fail to get there?
the elder lionheart
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Originally Posted by p0t4T0
If you want rushing there PM me, i can take you there.
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reddude
i got rushed there today for free. it was pretty fun watching him do it with all his doging and stuff... better then i can play the game
Mavrik
I got mouthed off by a guy who was asking for 5k to run people from Grendich courthouse to Yak's Bend and I told him he was asking way to much. The trip is at best worth 500g for a run, if that. Oh well.
Guild-Hall Messenger
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Thank you Dralon.
65 posts and Dax still isn't getting it. He doesn't like the practice, and I feel him on that. But he must accept he was in error calling it an exploit. |
nooby nooby
Well if anyone needs a run i only charge 2k:1k snakes 1k camp msg me if you want in =P well not today im bizzy
IGN I Eat Food
IGN I Eat Food
Old Dood
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Originally Posted by Guild-Hall Messenger
Can someone please close this thread, this post is meaningless, also the thread is extremely long and offers no solutions.
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Remember....Life is not Fair....
Thank you for your understanding....
Varcon
Just got rushed today for only 2k, by Guthra Stonefist.
He was very good, polite, funny, and charged the money at Camp Rankor.
He's also on the European servers, which is of course good for me.
He was very good, polite, funny, and charged the money at Camp Rankor.
He's also on the European servers, which is of course good for me.
trelloskilos
Personally, I have mixed feelings about Runners between Beacons Perch and Droknars/Rankor etc.
Yes, you're always going to get scammers who will take a lowbie's cash and leave them stranded at some point along the run...
The lowbies themselves, even if they find a good reliable runner, they can get their Droknars armour and...er...that's about it. They'll get pwned outside in any area of the high Shiverpeaks, and apart from the armour at Droknars, there really isn't anything else there that they couldn't do in LA.
My other bugbear is that even with honest and fast runners, only W/Mos can actually really do it, and any other classes can't make money from doing it this way. That kind of gives W/Mos another big advantage in moneymaking, while all the other classes are limited to low/mid level farming for their gold.
Having said all that, I'm glad to hear that there actually are some runners who take their job seriously, and don't rip people off.
Yes, you're always going to get scammers who will take a lowbie's cash and leave them stranded at some point along the run...
The lowbies themselves, even if they find a good reliable runner, they can get their Droknars armour and...er...that's about it. They'll get pwned outside in any area of the high Shiverpeaks, and apart from the armour at Droknars, there really isn't anything else there that they couldn't do in LA.
My other bugbear is that even with honest and fast runners, only W/Mos can actually really do it, and any other classes can't make money from doing it this way. That kind of gives W/Mos another big advantage in moneymaking, while all the other classes are limited to low/mid level farming for their gold.
Having said all that, I'm glad to hear that there actually are some runners who take their job seriously, and don't rip people off.
johnnylange
Has anyone been noticing a increase in the amount of runners? I'm talking about the ones who are, skipping their way though most missions and winding up in the crystal desert at lvl 14! The problem I see is many are just simply rushing to get from point A to point B and not taking the time to learn how to really use their character class. Mmm...maybe this is part of the reason why it seems even harder to find good groups for the ascending missions.
Axle_Fieshe
i like rushers. i didn't have to do all the missions again on my second character. the more runners the better. if u don't want low lvls in ur group then:
a) don't invite them
b) leave the group
a) don't invite them
b) leave the group
generik
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Has anyone been noticing a increase in the amount of runners? I'm talking about the ones who are, skipping their way though most missions and winding up in the crystal desert at lvl 14! The problem I see is many are just simply rushing to get from point A to point B and not taking the time to learn how to really use their character class. Mmm...maybe this is part of the reason why it seems even harder to find good groups for the ascending missions.
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