Dye Charts [MERGED]

junit

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

D/

props for such a good dye thing dude

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Avaith, I would only be guessing if I said black and silver. Silver dye on 15k pyro, which is what my ele has does seem to make it metalic, however there is a hint of purple (base colour) that shows through the dye. On most monk armour, black and silver make a dark silver, of course this doesn't hold for all dye.
My suggestion is to try either black and silver, or black, silver and purple and see how it goes. Only mix it once and test it on the piece of armour where the effect will be most noticeable. I know black is expensive, but the way I figured that black and blue does not make dark blue was to try it.

m0gden

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Arkangels

I slogged through the post hoping to find the answer to my prayer's but to no avail. I think I've spent ~100k trying to make a dark red through the uses of black dyes and whatnot without much luck. Anyway, I'm using it on my female Ranger wearing 15k druids. With the dark red hair nothing really fit's and I refuse to wear armor bought to look nice if it's not nice looking. If you knew any proper combinations for a dark red I'd be very happy. So far I've had a load of purples and pinks that looked washed out.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

m0gden: even black looks pretty washed out on 15k druids, so that might be a good indication that a nice solid dark red is simply not possible.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

Is the initial post being updated with any new charts and information?

I know I have sent a pm to Fexx offering to model some of my Armor and help provide some of the dye.

I could of course do it myself but I figure some of you already have the experience and worked out a system to know exactly how many of each dye, get shots, edit them together etc.

A list of Armors that I can model:
Ranger (Male):
15K Drakes
15K druids
Fissure (soon)

Ele (Male):
15K Pyro
15K Aero

Warrior (Male):
Fissure
Charr Helm
Lieutenant's Helm
Stonefist Gauntlets

Necro (Male):
15K Scars
15K Tormentors
Fissure


Mesmer (Female):
Droks Enchanters (with Performers? Gloves)

Monk (Female - Dark Skinned): (Would really like to do this one as tats show differently on dark skin v light skin)
Dragon Tats
Droks Star Tats

As I said if anyone would like to have a model, I think getting a really comprehensive guide that is consistent with the way the items are done in the first part would be great! I can help supply the dye. Just ask for your expertise and experience

<--- My IGNs
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Fezz

Fezz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Alabama

Charter Vanguard

The original post does still get updated, I have just been lazy recently and not had anything to be added.

I am in the process of finishing the Necro armors right now, and I believe Scutilla has more Warrior stuff.

If you would like to do a section for you Monk tatoos, just message me in-game and I will snap the shots and put them in a chart. It takes 8 of each Dye(including Dye Remover, but not including Black) for each armor piece, this usually costs around 10k.

We can talk more in-game if you want.

Scutilla

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

I don't have the Warrior stuff, but I do have pics for Necro FoW and Holy Rods (I'll send them over to you eventually, don't worry ). Progress on collecting for the warriors has been very slow since I've been focusing more on saving up for Factions, but I'll try to get those at least done sometime.

Fezz

Fezz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Alabama

Charter Vanguard

No hurry, I understand to need to save some gold for factions.

And thanks to Cherno the Dye mixes on Monk Tatoos for a dark skinned monk will be here soon.

Jhonatan Myst

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Almelo, The Netherlands

Mutants

Could somebody (or more ppl) make pictures of dyed items (like shields, staffs etc.)?

And im looking for nices dyes on mesmer male virtuoso's armour, can someone post some pics of that too?

TY very much.

(im sorry if my english is bad, im dutch, so)

Fezz

Fezz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Alabama

Charter Vanguard

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhonatan Myst
Could somebody (or more ppl) make pictures of dyed items (like shields, staffs etc.)?

And im looking for nices dyes on mesmer male virtuoso's armour, can someone post some pics of that too?

TY very much.

(im sorry if my english is bad, im dutch, so)
I will be getting to more non-armor items eventually, armors just take my priority.

And for your Mesmer, the chart with the Female Virtuoso should be similiar, if not the same for males(haven't really tested this enough to officialy say anything).

Morwen theWhite

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Indiana

Seekers of Vahalla [SoV]

Mo/Me

Does anyone know how to get Monk Ascetic's FoW armor dyed red. I've tried so many different combinations and can't find one.

Venenatus Ensis

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Chicago

Mo/

Morwen: check the first page, i think there are charts of monk Ascetics and that should work the same as FoW Ascetics

Fezz

Fezz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Alabama

Charter Vanguard

Quote:
Originally Posted by Venenatus Ensis
Morwen: check the first page, i think there are charts of monk Ascetics and that should work the same as FoW Ascetics
I could swear I sent the link with the FoW Tatoos to Frog, but I guess I didn't.

Anyway Monk FoW Tatoos(M).

Scutilla

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

How peculiar... I replied to a post, but in the time it took me to write the reply the post was moved/deleted...

Fezz, if I see you on AIM tonight I should have the Necro FoW, Warrior 15k Ascalon, and Holy Rod pics (and maybe one other if I get a chance to do it this afternoon) ready to send to you.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

Any idea when those dark skinned monk pics are going to be done and updated? I am wanting to maybe change colors again and would like to use that as reference. Also Fezz, I am still available any time you want to do some of the other types as your time permits.

Thanks!

Fezz

Fezz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Alabama

Charter Vanguard

Been real busy with school recently, but I have spring break next week so I should be able to get more work done.

I have managed to get some of the pics sorted out, but I will give those monk pics priority.

Fezz

Fezz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Alabama

Charter Vanguard

Update:

2 Dye Mixes on Necro Bonelace(F)
2 Dye Mixes on Necro Body Scars(F)
2 Dye Mixes on Necro Collector's Armor(F)
2 Dye Mixes on Necro Tormentor's(F)
2 Dye Mixes on Necro Fanatics(F)
2 Dye Mixes on Necro Necrotic(F)
2 Dye Mixes on Necromancer's Armor(F)

2 Dye Mixes on Monk Tatoos on Dark Skin(F)

Have the info the first page update sent off to Frog so it should be up there soon, but until then here are the most recent updates. Enjoy

Naqser

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/A

Northern Borderguard

N/E

if u mix several dye removers on a single dye, will it be more transparent then? like blue + dye remove + dye remove + dye remove

Fezz

Fezz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Alabama

Charter Vanguard

Quote:
Originally Posted by Naqser
if u mix several dye removers on a single dye, will it be more transparent then? like blue + dye remove + dye remove + dye remove
NO, Dye remover just acts like the base color of the armor. So on Monk Tatoos it would just be like mixing Blue+Blue+Blue+Blue, or on necro it would be like Blue+Red+Red+Red, etc.

Fistandantulus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
Coolest armor set of all is the Crystalline:



Of course, you have to use buggy beta Nvidia drivers to get it.
so thats just a bug and not an actual dye?
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i can model 15k tats on light skin, normal scars, and soon 15k scars if you need it still.

Venenatus Ensis

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Chicago

Mo/

so, who's making the chart for the factions armor?

Fezz

Fezz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Alabama

Charter Vanguard

Quote:
Originally Posted by Venenatus Ensis
so, who's making the chart for the factions armor?
I am once Factions is released.

Fezz

Fezz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Alabama

Charter Vanguard

2 More charts:

2 Dye Mixes on Ele 15k Aeromancer Armor(M)

2 Dye Mixes on Ranger 15k Druids(F)

They should be on the first page soon.

Scutilla

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

D'oh, alright Fezz, I promise I will get you those shots tonight- I keep forgetting about it. (15k Druid Male, 15k Ascalon Male, FoW Necro Male, and Holy Rods)

The Mo Show

The Mo Show

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Middletown Massacre

Me/Mo

I went to dye my -50hp Grim Cesta and -20hp Divine Symbol, and i thin they got some weird patterns, can you help me out with those??

Fezz

Fezz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Alabama

Charter Vanguard

I will try to get to the -50 Grim Cesta, but I really want to finish the last dozen+ armors before factions comes out.

If you would like, you can do like cherno has been and buy the dyes(8 of each) and I will come mix them, take the screen shots, and them into a chart. But I have to save my gold for the last of the armors.

The Mo Show

The Mo Show

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Middletown Massacre

Me/Mo

another question, on like the basic armors, for instance mesmer enchanters, to get black, do you just dye it with 1 black dye? or do you ahve to mix it with something else to overcome the previous green color?

Fezz

Fezz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Alabama

Charter Vanguard

Black is a really strong color, so one Black Dye should be enough to overcome the base color of the armor.

Venenatus Ensis

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Chicago

Mo/

Fezz is right, as usual

cainvonlucifer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Norway,Oslo

Army Of The Lotus [TLA]

R/

nice free bump.

johnactor

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/Me

would S+S+S+Y be different to Y+S+S+S?

And can I confirm that I get a different colour to either of the above if I first mix Y+S then separately mix S+S, then put two together subsequently.

Sorry if noob questions, I just want to be sure before i fork out a load of cash.

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

Don't mix identical colors.

You have to mix Y + S, THEN mix your results with another S. Other than that hard rule, you can mix dyes in any order.

Venenatus Ensis

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Chicago

Mo/

Johnactor-

this has been touched on, no they would be the same because, as was said, you would have to do S+Y or Y+S first

Scutilla

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

I think that if you mix S+S and then add the other two to create YSSS, it would work out the same as if you started with Y+S. It's just that most people have their silvers all in one stack (and you can't mix two dyes when they're in the same stack together).

samurai snack

samurai snack

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

British Columbia, Canada

Dawn of the Luxons [Dawn]

W/

OH MY GOD i loved this thread , thing is, u need the dye combos for the beginning warrior armours from ring mail-wyvern

Dark Suoon

Dark Suoon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Organization of Dawn [DAWN]

W/D

wow this thread is tight man, i will be using this alot

johnactor

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/Me

Interesting, why have I read on the mesmer armour thread people doing YSSS rather than YSS? It seems from your responses that the last S would not make a difference. Or I'm completely misunderstanding.

Fezz

Fezz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Alabama

Charter Vanguard

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnactor
Interesting, why have I read on the mesmer armour thread people doing YSSS rather than YSS? It seems from your responses that the last S would not make a difference. Or I'm completely misunderstanding.
Every Dye you add will make a difference, even if its just a very subtle one. And the more of Dyes you add the less each color sticks out. So with just 2 Silver the Yellow will be more noticable, thus people use 3 Silver.

Venenatus Ensis

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Chicago

Mo/

look at the first couple pages and you can see the dye percantages when mixing.
Y+S= 50% yellow, 50% silver
Y+S+S= 33% yellow, 66% silver
Y+S+S+S= 25% yellow, 75% silver
and so on and so forth

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scutilla
I think that if you mix S+S and then add the other two to create YSSS, it would work out the same as if you started with Y+S. It's just that most people have their silvers all in one stack (and you can't mix two dyes when they're in the same stack together).
Mixing Silver and Silver makes Silver. Therefore, it is unwise and pointless to mix two Dyes of the same color. In order to make the YSSS color/shade, you must first mix a Yellow and a Silver (in either possible order), then add the subsequent Silver dyes to the mix.

I do believe this has been discussed at least once, if not thrice, over the course of this thread.