How to kill Doppelganger - Guide to all classes

Olim Chill

Olim Chill

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

USA

DMI

N/

^Agreed, easy as pie. You don't even need the additional attack skills. [skill]Charm animal[/skill], [skill]Comfort animal[/skill], & your weapon will do just fine.

The Daemon Warrior

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Netherlands

The Celestial Fellowship [CeF]

W/

Easiest way for Warriors is just 2 bring ripostes and Glads (just make sure u dont attack )

jon0592

jon0592

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

What's the latest for Ele? arcane echo MS then flare + fireball?

Brian the Gladiator

Brian the Gladiator

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Michigan, USA

Us Are Not [leet]

E/

I think I've posted this before in this thread but it keeps getting overlooked...

Any/Me

[skill]empathy[/skill]
Domination Magic --> 12

Usage: Cast Empathy on target foe. Repeatedly hit the "Q" and "E" keys on your keyboard. The arrows the doppelganger shoots will be dodged as he takes damage from Empathy. THE EASIEST WAY TO KILL DOPPEL ON ANY CHARACTER IN HARD MODE OR NORMAL MODE!!!

sixofone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

P/

Just bring Iron Mist and let him hex you, and don't bring any lightning spells! You're immune to any damage he throws at you while you toast him!

Taurus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mexico

Go for the eyes [jizz]

W/Mo

you peoples are enarmos neubs
i know how beat dipplelonger -> http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10201818

You Look Grim

You Look Grim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Ecnegilletni Laicifitra [朔mud]

if you're a monk
just bring some form of degen.
cast it on him and cast reversal of fortune
over and over on yourself, and dont wand him (=

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurus
you peoples are enarmos neubs
i know how beat dipplelonger -> http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10201818
Ah, the infamous dooblegonger thread - one of my all-time favourites!

Alathaea

Alathaea

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

None

R/

Rangers have it amazingly easily. I just took Apply Poison and Burning Arrow and then had 6 5-cast spirits. He got to Burning Arrow and was halfway through firing when he died.

And it works exactly the same on HM. Easiest Tyrian HM, hands down.

arual

arual

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

I've used the same build to kill the Doppelganger in Hard Mode and easily get the bonus on various character classes and it works pretty damn efficiently;

Attributes:
Curses: 12

Skills:
Enfeeble
Insidious Parasite
Spiteful Spirit [elite]

Usage:
  • Switch to a Necromancer secondary and max out your Curses attribute to 12, the others can be left at zero. Equip the following spells Enfeeble, Insidious Parasite, and Spiteful Spirit - also using them in that order too. Leave the rest of your skill bar empty; this will increase the amount of time the doppelganger spends attacking. Do not attack the doppelganger yourself, just stand still and let his attacks hit. As long as both Enfeeble and Insidious Parasite are cast then even an armour rating of 60 should give you a net health gain, even if only by a small amount.
  • It is advised that, for a couple of reasons, a Staff or Wand/Off-Hand combination be used during the fight. Firstly the enemy AI will constantly use Enfeeble against certain character classes using martial weapons, such as a Monk with a Totem Axe, to counter this simply use any spellcasting weapon. The second reason is related to energy. If the three spells are cast as soon as possible then the fight will be over in less than 20 seconds; ie. before any of the hexes have the chance to expire and they will not need to be recast. This means that energy regeneration is not particularly important, the main factor to control is the initial energy pool of the character fighting. A full cast of all three spells costs a relatively mediocre 35 energy, if you do not have that much energy (ie. a warrior with no Radiant Insignia) then you must use a combination of weapons that raises your energy by over 10, preferably 15; a Staff or a Wand and Curses Focus is advised for this. If you already have the required energy, for example on an Elementalist with some points in Energy Storage then consider taking a shield for a small amount of extra armour, even if you don't meet its requirements.
Notes:
  • This has so far only actually been tested on a Warrior, Ranger, Elementalist, Necromancer and Monk. All of these successfully completed the bonus on their first attempt - except that time I forgot to put point into Curses
  • It's never actually explained why using a martial weapon and the Doppelgangers constant recast of Enfeeble is bad in the main section. I'll answer that here instead; by constantly casting Enfeeble against the player the Doppelganger cuts down on its time attacking and therefore the damage it takes. Therefore there is the chance that the hexes will run out whilst it still has a low amount of HP left. For classes with enough energy a second cast of SS simply finishes it off but for Warriors this might not be so easy - using a Staff therefore makes it just that little bit easier. For the record I always used a staff and have only tried the Wand/focus method using Droknar's Blood Scepter on my Monk, it worked fine though and I'm pretty sure the AI treats Enfeeble casting the same on all spellcasting weapons (since they're usually not much of a threat).
  • This build has the advantage over any other in that not just will it work for any Primary profession but that the three spells required are all from the Prophecies campaign. A perhaps added difficulty would be that this build uses an Elite Skill that people may not have learnt on the ascending character. As a boon though Spiteful Spirit is very easy to cap from Nighh SpineChill near Camp Rankor; the other two spells can be learnt before the Crystal Desert is even reached.
  • You could add other spells such as Reckless Haste but doing so in fact makes it take longer for the doppelganger to die since he spends more time casting spells and less time attacking.
  • Characters with Necromancer as their primary profession obviously cannot (nor do they need to) change their secondary profession to Necromancer. In these cases the secondary profession is irrelevant. Necromancers can however put more points into Curses making the fight even quicker.
Source:
I didn't create the build; the original came from some notes on how to kill the HM doppelganger using a Necro. I realised it might work for all classes, I tested it and then wrote it up a bit. The version here is pretty much a direct copy and paste from the version that is hosted on one of the wiki's;
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/User...nger:Hard_Mode

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurus
you peoples are enarmos neubs
i know how beat dipplelonger -> http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10201818
aaah... 2007, those were the days. Im proud to be #9 on that tread.

Anyway, anyone can beat their dooplepooper with insidious parasite and price of failure. easy peasy. Just go any/N. An IAS speeds it up and taking enfeeble takes his damage down.

bas koopman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Looking for a GvG guild

W/E

beat him on a lvl 10 necro with just SS and alot of dodging. he's too easy to deserve his own topic

centur

centur

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Russia, Moscow

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

Fastest way to kill it with pve skills - doppel didnt use it either.
I did hardmode doppel with bonus in around 15 seconds with following (primary N but anyone can do it with secondary N, even without elite)
Awaken of the blood (cast before steps on the stones)
Spoil Victor (not required, but in that cause u should dodge a bit, with sv - just stand still)
Barbs,
Ebon Assassin,
Order of pain
Finish him!
Just cast in that order. Beat HM Doppel in less than 10 seconds.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

I always found the method for Rangers works for all classes so long as the secondary is Ranger. Long casting rituals just seem to always confuse the Doppleganger no matter what... of course... except Hard Mode.

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

Class: Mo/Me

It took me 15-20 seconds to kill doplee using smiting build and arcane echo (the only mesmer skill) in hard mode.

Panais

Panais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Binge And Purge [HET]

D/W

nm hb wand
hm pet bow

Trinity Fire Angel

Trinity Fire Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

The Desert

Legions of Engalion [自由]

Mo/W

bah.... it;s easier than that. HM dopple in < 10 secs. have any primary profession you like and have /Ranger as secondary.

give him 7 spirits and you take Ursan. toast the dopple ganger while he wastes his time setting up 7 spirits.

we did this for my friend when she was doing her survivor. in both NM and HM. easiest 130,000 XP in the whole ledgendary survivor experience

Taurus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mexico

Go for the eyes [jizz]

W/Mo

really ... how did this get approved as a community work ?

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Fire Angel
bah.... it;s easier than that. HM dopple in < 10 secs. have any primary profession you like and have /Ranger as secondary.

give him 7 spirits and you take Ursan. toast the dopple ganger while he wastes his time setting up 7 spirits.

we did this for my friend when she was doing her survivor. in both NM and HM. easiest 130,000 XP in the whole ledgendary survivor experience
Yes, but people ascending do it when they are usually under level 20 in NM and Ursan blessing is an elite that requires EOTN.

Coming up with core skills/Tyrian only skills that beat doppleganger is the interesting part. Both in HM and NM.

spyder0527

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

A/D

I didn't know that this was a problem

I solo'd him with my moebius blossom assassin build if anyone can't do it with an assassin..

Unreal Havoc

Guest

Join Date: Dec 2007

I came up with this for an A/R due to the Dopplegangers inability to use a pet.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/User:Sel...leganger_Spike

Works a charm if you're a Survivor too as it's pretty much fail safe, tried and tested.

Tamgi Sun

Tamgi Sun

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

UK

R/Rt

Shattersin, run through your chain 2 or 3 times then laugh in his face ^^,

Burning Freebies

Burning Freebies

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

The wonderful land of gift giving

[FoW]

E/Mo

[QUOTE=Ogg]

Elementalist: Meteor Shower, Firestorm, Aura of Restoration + flare. Remember to move out of AoE-spells when double casts them on you. Before stepping on that last stone, cast Aura, then MS on double, then FS. And then at your leisure just flare it to death.No longer works, as double will move out of the way.

There is nothing special I did on my ele character. I just bought Aura of Restoration, Fire Storm, Flare, Double Dragon (elite), Liquid flame, Immolate, pheonix and Fire Attunement. I casted aura and fire attune before entering the arena. When i got there, i casted FS then Liquid flame, then immolate and pheonix, then flared him to death. I only needed 2 flares to kill him. It took me around 20 seconds with this build. However, cause Anet decided to improve the AI of dopple, he decides to escape the raining fire skills, a distance crippling skill would mean he takes longer to move so the fire showers will hurt him for longer. So, with this distance cripple skill, cripple him, use glyph on concentration, then MS, then flare, liquid flame and immolate him till he dies. This should work, hopefully, if there is a distance crippling skill.

the deadly azin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Phoenix Dynasty [Tear]

R/

as a ranger just bring traps and rituals and you can kill him in under 30 seconds easily

Burning Freebies

Burning Freebies

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

The wonderful land of gift giving

[FoW]

E/Mo

I checked the wiki and found 2 easy ways.

1.)Bring Arcane echo and Ebon Vanguard assasin support. Cast arcane echo before stepping on the third rock. When in the arena, cast the support skill. Then cast the arcane echo duplicate. This does require a high rank (I tried it with rank 2 in HM and failed, badly)

2.)Equip Mist form and Empathy. Cast mist form before the third rock. When in the arena, cast empathy on the dopple. He will attack you, causing him to die slowly (a high domination magic and water magic rank is neccesary), while mist form will cause him to deal no damage to you. You MUST NOT attack him, or you will die slowly as well. Reapply mist form to yourself and empathy to him until he dies. This method is fail safe if you follow the above rules.

DBZVelena

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Holland

The Forever Knights

R/Mo

For W/Mo:
Frenzy, Life Attunement, Deadly Riposte.
In Normal you have a dead Doppelganger withing 10 seconds.
Thus you get bonus too.
Of course this does mean you'll need a sword. And don't use the first 2 skills, those are for doppelganger to kill him self with.

Hara Makoto

Hara Makoto

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

London, UK

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

R/

ebon sin support , PI , ursan .. can't go wrong with it :P

I Jonas I

I Jonas I

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2008

With a necromancer:

Awaken The Blood, Order of the Vampire, Enfeeble, Reckless Haste, Price of Failure.

Usage: Don't use order of the vampire. keep enfeeble, Reckless Haste, and Price of Failure on him at all times. Don't attack him, let him kill himself.

Crystal Lake

Crystal Lake

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

Mo/

Just did this one today.
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Didn't really need the strip Enchantment at all. I cast Fire Attunement, then "I am the Strongest", then Flare & AoR. Then Ear bite as soon as you have some adrenaline - the bleeding helps take him down quickly. He got me the first 2 times but on the third time I got him in about 2 minutes.

I am no further than rank one in either Norn or Dwarf reputation.

Ghostcell

Ghostcell

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

=VX9=

N/Mo

just do it the slack way...ursan

Sjeng

Sjeng

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

in my GH

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

W/

I used this for my warrior in HM.

[build=OQITE5JXn5uoVgOA3pz2554cAA]

Let him cast spirits while you frenzy away with a 20/20 15^50 hammer.
After he's done casting spirits, spam dwarven battle stance and finish him off.

Burning Freebies

Burning Freebies

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

The wonderful land of gift giving

[FoW]

E/Mo

Crystal lake-Nice method. Im r8 norn, so i pobably would have done slightly better, because im r6 delver.

Ghostcell-Not a good idea, but a good idea. He cant use it, but you cant heal fom his attacks. Equiping ursan with 2 other PvE skills that will help you would work, but not well on HM.

Sjeng-Nice idea. Those spirits wont help, but hes programmed to use them.

Nice builds guys, keep them coming!

Amazing Stroopwafel

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

R/

Mo/N OR N/M
[scourge sacrifice][awaken the blood] ANY sac skill and gg doppleganger

Koga1990

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2012

Order Of The Sun

R/Mo

for a ranger/any class beating the doppleganger is very easy.. it may have been where your pet wouldn't come with you before but its not that way now.. simply set up troll unguent (wilderness survival of 4) and max out your beast mastery.. set up bestial pounce, call of haste, poisonous bite and feral lunge (to counter his heal from troll unguent), otyuhgs cry, and comfort animal. since the doppleganger has no pet the pet skills are completely useless to it. also works for any/ranger as well.

Rising Hero

Rising Hero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2012

RotPK

haha, not bad, but might be few years late there

ninagarrett

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2013

rajo

this is an awesome thread! Thanks for bringing this up and sharing all these tips. This has been very helpful to me.

rogerdave

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2012

Any/necro. Equip +hp shield and wand Max curses cast insidious parasite recast as needed do not attack and watch him die. Even faster if you take evas, ymlad, and finish him.

Happy Muffin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2015

Aw Snap Its Almost 420 [Toke]

W/Mo

I know someone hasn't posted here in a while but I having some trouble beating my Dopple with my lvl 5 e/w. Do you guys have any suggestions?

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Not sure whether you're going for low level obby armor or are just low level... probably doesn't matter. Some advice in no particular order:

-Eles can load up on useless enchants to eat up time while you deal damage. Take all the attunements, for example.
-Warriors can take Frenzy and not use it.
-Your low level shouldn't compromise your armor level. Get 60AL armor and slap Aeromancer insignia on them. Wiki says it's Chaos axe deals lightning damage, so that'll set you up with 80AL. With 160 base health, you can add a sup vigor rune and four vitae runes for a total of 250 health. If you go with a melee weapon and shield, you can boost these numbers to at least 96AL (shield bonus, if you can find one with another +10AL vs lightning that'd be good) and 340 health. Based on those numbers, it looks like you should at least break even on survivability.
-Damage looks like it'll be the issue. If you can outdamage it, you should be able to take care of healing simply by breaking off and waiting for regeneration (obviously you'll need to dodge the ranged attacks), though again I'm not sure that'll be necessary.
-Running Riposte + Deadly Riposte should be effective too, especially if you've got Gladiator's Defense. In fact, this would be a good option because the damage will only be affected by your Tactics attribute.
-Something else to try, possibly even in the same build, is taking Glyph of Sacrifice and Meteor Shower. With some luck, it'll burn the Glyph on an attunement while you can save it for MS.

Hopefully some combination of that advice will get the job done.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Augury_Rock