Blinding Flash needs nerf now?

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

remove their atunements with enchantment removal.. bubye blind?

Mental Leteci

Mental Leteci

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Originally Posted by Luddendorf
Let's see: Eles are arguably the worst class along with necros. Monks, Warriors, and Mesmers are easily the top 3 and Rangers have a niche role too. Necros and eles have their points but they are nowhere near as important or commonplace as the 3 main classes. Saying there is no good/bad class is sheer stupidity and I hope it would be self-evident why. Ok,either you just started to play this game or you just don't understand it. When this game was released even 2 months after no one wanted a mesmer in their groups because everyone was saying mesmer is the worst class there is. Look at them now. Now,look at that guy who said about 20 good things about ele. I mean,if ele is bad what should you say about the ranger? All he can do is spread poison,run,interrupt and what? Trap? ...
Look,ele is an awesome class and I'm not talking about air ele... I'm talking about any ele.

JR

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mental Leteci
Ok,either you just started to play this game or you just don't understand it. When this game was released even 2 months after no one wanted a mesmer in their groups because everyone was saying mesmer is the worst class there is. Look at them now. Now,look at that guy who said about 20 good things about ele. I mean,if ele is bad what should you say about the ranger? All he can do is spread poison,run,interrupt and what? Trap? ...
Look,ele is an awesome class and I'm not talking about air ele... I'm talking about any ele. Actually Luddendorf was right on the money, in the context of the current PvP environment.

Watch more observer mode in my opinion.

selber

selber

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mental Leteci
Look,ele is an awesome class and I'm not talking about air ele... I'm talking about any ele. That's not true. In fact - if there wasnt EP and Healparty I doubt if we would see Eles in High-End-GvG at all.

JR

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Quote:
Originally Posted by selber
That's not true. In fact - if there wasnt EP and Healparty I doubt if we would see Eles in High-End-GvG at all. Aside from certain forms of spike, of course.

makosi

makosi

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Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

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[QUOTE=Stockholm] Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
I've maintained the idea (controversially - don't flame me) that this game was built around the warrior
QUOTE]

Wrong
This game was built around the concept of each class complementing each other and and all missions can be played without a warrior so thats not true.

And stop nerfing skills just because they bug you in PvP Or GVG, just found out that an item that was nerft on the US and EU servers is still availeble on the korean server so good luck in PvP or GvG if you get all your nerfs. You obviously haven't seen the video of the group of 6 warriors and 2 monks clearing Sorrow's Furnace. And you might not have noticed a little build called IWAY either that only dominated HA for what..... 3 months minimum?. The game was built for the warrior and casters get nerfed... warriors continue to hack n slash and there's not much to counter them.

Mental Leteci

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Ok wait. I noticed a lot of people here think ele shoudl be used just to spam blinding flash and windborne/heal party etc. It's totally wrong. 1st of all who said it needs to be an air ele? Just because other people play it,doesn't mean you have to. Observe mode is the worse thing that could happen to new players. They only play what they see there. You should try it yourself.

rii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

UK

Warriors were not implemented as the end all of the game, they were implemented as a concept just as elementalists were. It just turns out they are better than elementalists for various purposes and for various reasons.

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theres not much to counter them Thats the stupidest thing I've heard all week.

As for casters being nerfed... well they were. If by 'casters' you meant things like chain lightening among others, yes they were nerfed. Thats because 5 eles casting a chain with a large aoe that could easily kill three/four people was retarded.

The problem with eles is they arent designed for DPM... when you give all the lines an elite that deals 100 damage but once every 20 seconds its clear your not designing them to put out damage over the course of a minute (with elemental skills at least). What they are good at is spiking people down. The only problem with such a transparant tactic.. is either
a) the spike is deadly, spammable, and precise - when it is it will be considered imba.
b) the spike either isnt deadly, has a long recharge, takes a while (1-2s) to pump out, or has some other mitigating factor - in this situation, its not worth running spike against a decent team since they will just do x y z and you loose.

After that, there are basic considerations like split tactics etc... but as a simple black and white interpretation it more or less works.

As for warriors.. high armour and strong self healing capabilities combined with almost imba ias to adrenal spike... serve a much greater role than eles do in offense. Its just a plain fact that unless the spike is absolutely tight (see above) DPM is the much stronger option.

jackie

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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[QUOTE=makosi] Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm

You obviously haven't seen the video of the group of 6 warriors and 2 monks clearing Sorrow's Furnace. And you might not have noticed a little build called IWAY either that only dominated HA for what..... 3 months minimum?. The game was built for the warrior and casters get nerfed... warriors continue to hack n slash and there's not much to counter them.
I guess you haven't heard All-Mesmer / Ranger Events.
8 Mesmers Clearing UW / FoW / Sorrows / Tombs.

And for the domination of HA, mmm if you look what builds hold you might notice they aren't iway...IWAY is there just because it is easiest build to form.

Warriors get much attention because they are the most popular class. Easy & simple to play.

I disagree with everyone saying some profession is more effective or more important than other. That is just plain stupidity. Every prof plays vital role.

Stockholm

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Thank You jackie,
thats what I was trying to say. by the way thats not a quote from me.

makosi

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"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

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There isn't much to counter warriors - especially in pvp. "Thats the stupidest thing I've heard all week" is a glib remark and you didn't justify yourself. What I meant was, there are very few ways to prevent yourself from being damaged by a warrior if you're a caster keeping in mind that your armour IS weaker. Casters need their self healing, ressurection skills and energy management and blinding flash is inefficient in itself because of the zero dmg and 15 energy cost. That doesn't leave many skill bars open for damage. Sure, you can bring wards - even more energy and even less damage on your skill bar. My point is, casters (like eles) can are useless against hammer warriors (for example) unless they take the defensive approach which leaves little room for damage. When you do try to deal damage, you can be knocked to the ground for up to 4 seconds and take a beating with your teeth in the mud.

A few examples of anti-warrior skills:

Signet of Midnight: Good duration, good recharge, seen by many people as a waste of an elite.
Faintheartedness/Shadow of Fear: Works well but it doesn't change the fact that they will cause all sorts of conditions and still deal damage.
Spirit Shackles, Spirit of Failure, Price of faliure - 3 seconds cast time...

rii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

UK

If you honestly want to shutdown warriors... make a hexer, and pick up any 5 of the amazing hexes availiabale for raping warriors. Combo in some degen for when there arent enough warriors around... then get a flash turret on top of that.
As a quick example:

Spiteful Spirit [e]
Spirit of Failure
Price of Failure
Soothing Images
Drain Enchantment
Faintheartedness
Parasitic Bond
Resurrection Signet

A little overkill.... but that kind of build leaves warriors in the dust... the only reason people dont do it is its an entire character. Degen teams have it easy and duel flash in the current standard build is usually enough. Your not going to stop them killing you... thats naive. You just have to bring their damage below a critical level so your monks dont get basically overloaded.

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Blinding flash doesn't need a nerf
it can be removed by a good monk o so quickly, and to be able to "spam it" u need to take at least 1 other skill or even 2

makosi

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"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by rii
If you honestly want to shutdown warriors... make a hexer, and pick up any 5 of the amazing hexes availiabale for raping warriors. Combo in some degen for when there arent enough warriors around... then get a flash turret on top of that.
As a quick example:

Spiteful Spirit [e]
Spirit of Failure
Price of Failure
Soothing Images
Drain Enchantment
Faintheartedness
Parasitic Bond
Resurrection Signet

A little overkill.... but that kind of build leaves warriors in the dust... the only reason people dont do it is its an entire character. Degen teams have it easy and duel flash in the current standard build is usually enough. Your not going to stop them killing you... thats naive. You just have to bring their damage below a critical level so your monks dont get basically overloaded. Cheers, i'll give it a go.

sabzero

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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if conditions annoy you, choose necro as a 2nd prof and use plague touch.

blinding flash = change target to an enemy warrior/ranger or anything close, plague touch it then ur set.

thats normally what i do. or just hack away and hope you get lucky with that 10% hit chance.

Xpl0iter

Xpl0iter

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Originally Posted by Mental Leteci
I would totally disagree. If you think so you're not using it right.
There is no worst/best class in this game. Every class is good. Seems like you just purchased this game for saying something so awkward. I suggest you read forums over ele debates before saying that.

Regardz
An Elementalist.

RotteN

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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blinding flash doesn't need a nerf, it's a condition, there are billions of ways to get rid of those ... and even with all the blinding flash spam/blurred vision/shadow of fear/faintheartedness/.... (insert all the other warrior hate here), warriors are still able to kill, so it's not overpowered either ...


and to Xpl0iter : if you think ele's are the worst class in the game, why are you still playing one ?

makosi

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"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RotteN
blinding flash doesn't need a nerf, it's a condition, there are billions of ways to get rid of those ... and even with all the blinding flash spam/blurred vision/shadow of fear/faintheartedness/.... (insert all the other warrior hate here), warriors are still able to kill, so it's not overpowered either ...


and to Xpl0iter : if you think ele's are the worst class in the game, why are you still playing one ? "warriors are still able to kill,"

Yes.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by thor hammerbane
no other profession can shut down a war or ranger as fast as ele currently.
One word for you. WRONG! Spiteful Spirit, Spirit of Failure, Clumsiness. If you keep on attacking through those then you're dead. Ele's can shut down warriors and rangers but honestly necros and mesmers are far more proficient at it. It's the good old, stab yourself in the face tactic. In fact I'd hate to see the damage spike that those three skills working in concert and firing off all at once would cause to a single character. The bad thing is that a N/Me could keep all of those on you more or less indefinately with a modicum of effort. These skills are nice in PvE for damage, especially SS, but in PvP they function as shut downs unless your target is a complete moron.

Frost_

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by thor hammerbane
I don't want this thread to sound like im whining, but ive had enough of ele's just spamming blinding flash. They can consistently keep on atleast 2 targets, this is why i feel it is overpowered. Gale was a great skills for warriors to use, every w/e used it; It got a nerf. Crippling shot was a great skill for rangers to use in GvG and the like, they could spam it on an entire team;it got nerfed. Every single air ele has blinding flash, i think it deserves a nerf. Something as simple as a 2 second casting time, or a longer recharge time. I am fed up with Air Ele's just spamming this. Other usefull skills got nerfed as well, Distortion, Offering of Blood. All these skills dealt with spamming.


Blinding flash is another one that i think should be added to these "spammable nerfs". Please A-net, nerf it now! blinding flash - 15 energy

martyr/restore/mend ail/mend condition - 5 energy

call for a monk to remove

the end

oh and a lot of warriros use plauge touch and stuff like that so you can just give it back

and the only time i think theve nerfed something because it was spammable was because emos would put up zealouts fire and then just spam draw conditions with ether renewal(or some other ele elite i dont remember)

Xpl0iter

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@ Thor
Dude, you need to PLAY as an ele in pvp to KNOW what you are talking about. I do not want to flame you any more than i already have, others are doing an excellent job at it too. Read what Starbo just said to u in his post.

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Originally Posted by RotteN
blinding flash doesn't need a nerf, it's a condition, there are billions of ways to get rid of those ... and even with all the blinding flash spam/blurred vision/shadow of fear/faintheartedness/.... (insert all the other warrior hate here), warriors are still able to kill, so it's not overpowered either ...
"warriors are still able to kill"
Exactly. And we can't. A mesmer can tease a warrior with hexhes, so can a necro, though necro wont be as efficient as a mesmer. But, eles... well, thats a whole different issue now, isin't?

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Originally Posted by RotteN
and to Xpl0iter : if you think ele's are the worst class in the game, why are you still playing one ? Ur not getting it, are u ? Let me make it easy on you rotten. What i am saying is that, i LOVE ele, and its the WORST class right now, which it should *NOT* be. get it? I Love eles right now in guildwars not cause of their skills, but cause of my own nature which attracts me to this specific profession. What i HATE the most is the fact that, ANET needs to WORK on this class. I hope i am quite *clear* this time. This profession class needs Serious work done. You need to have a look at ensign's thread. Have fun searching. it is called Why nuking Sucks.


Regardz
An Elementalist.

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Ensign's Conceptual Issue With Elementalists Thread http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=141050

Lodurr

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xpl0iter
@ Thor
Dude, you need to PLAY as an ele in pvp to KNOW what you are talking about. I play as a War most of the time and I agree with Thor. All those condition-removers have a cooldown time while Blinding Flash has almost none, and Eles focused on it can keep it up nonstop. I played a game in TA where I was Blinded literally every five seconds, and even using the best condition remover of them all--Plague Touch--it was a big hassle. If I didn't bring a condition remover, or used something like Purge Signet that took 20 seconds to recharge, I would be Blinded 100% of the match and there would be nothing I could do to be effective.

That's called an exploit.

Xpl0iter

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Originally Posted by Lodurr
I play as a War most of the time and I agree with Thor. All those condition-removers have a cooldown time while Blinding Flash has almost none, and Eles focused on it can keep it up nonstop. I played a game in TA where I was Blinded literally every five seconds, and even using the best condition remover of them all--Plague Touch--it was a big hassle. If I didn't bring a condition remover, or used something like Purge Signet that took 20 seconds to recharge, I would be Blinded 100% of the match and there would be nothing I could do to be effective.

That's called an exploit. Beside keeping you blind, what else that ele did? were you Dishing out more damage compared to ele? or was he killing you with blind on you all the time?
Mind you, that happens to be one of the effective skills we got which we can spam while a warrior spams with his weapon. Think about it for sometime.

Regardz
An Elementalist

Luddendorf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lodurr
I play as a War most of the time and I agree with Thor. All those condition-removers have a cooldown time while Blinding Flash has almost none, and Eles focused on it can keep it up nonstop. I played a game in TA where I was Blinded literally every five seconds, and even using the best condition remover of them all--Plague Touch--it was a big hassle. If I didn't bring a condition remover, or used something like Purge Signet that took 20 seconds to recharge, I would be Blinded 100% of the match and there would be nothing I could do to be effective.

That's called an exploit. That's called you're dead wrong. An exploit? What a joke. Learn how the classes work.

That ele is going to be crying when he has a mesmer on him. With proper enchant stripping/diversion he isn't going to be doing anything with either prodigy or dual attunements.

If you're getting beat by blinding flash in TA plan for it and have one of your offensive casters bring a draw conditions. That will single handedly beat the blinding flash especially if the guy has a reliable energy engine (like offering or prodigy).

In RA the situation is more dicey since you can't plan for anyone else bringing it and the 2 best options are mend ailment and plague touch for self removals. Timewise things are nearly the same. Basically 5s per blinding flash, and 5s per condition removal. The energy is where the issues are though. 2 pips with 5e removal vs 9 pips with 15e application. Then again, he has to use all his energy to keep blinding every 5s and if an ele has no energy to do anything else hes basically useless except for that task, except you the warrior can continue banging away with great dps and spike for no energy cost.

Xpl0iter

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agreed with ludden

Rhidan Rennon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lodurr
I play as a War most of the time and I agree with Thor. All those condition-removers have a cooldown time while Blinding Flash has almost none, and Eles focused on it can keep it up nonstop. I played a game in TA where I was Blinded literally every five seconds, and even using the best condition remover of them all--Plague Touch--it was a big hassle. If I didn't bring a condition remover, or used something like Purge Signet that took 20 seconds to recharge, I would be Blinded 100% of the match and there would be nothing I could do to be effective.

That's called an exploit. It's counterintutive to call something unbalanced when playing in Ra/Ta when these arenas are effectively built on the idea of unbalance. I can simply pacifiy spam you and take you out of the picture but that doesn't mean the skill pacify( hardly used nowadays) is overblanced. Simply because one time someone effectivly prevents one type of damage dealer of inflicting dmg does not mean that any skill is unbalanced. Think about all the times when a domination mesmer has come in and competly disabled a boon prot. We don't consider many of those skills undbalanced.

The problems rests within Ra/Ta's inability to allow for the fluid transfer of pressure, damage, and support. Let's take for instance the boon prot from above. He probably can go agianst team after team of warrior heavy teams because he recieves little pressure other than focused damage. He starts a next match only to be flat out owned by a mesmer. This results from multiple sources: the monk has no dedicated support heal as the healing is very focused, the damage can't apply pressure to the mesmer because they have to drop the monk, and there is no direct caster pressure that can effectively put out the mesmer while maintnaing damage on the healers. I think this results from the lack of skill slots in Ra/Ta, the lack of experiance in players, and also a lack of communication.

So don't go around thinking the elementalist who just owned you has unbalanced skills but realize that the arena of your choice is highly designed to be unblanced. You will lose and win more over the long run based of the builds of other teams.

cookiemonkie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thats really the nature of 4vs4. There are skills in this game that seem overpowered, blinding flash IS NOT one of them. When you go to TA someone on your team has to have a conditions removal besides just the monk. The monk has no room in TA for hex removal since protective spirit is needed and also contemplation of purity as well as signet of devotion to handle energy denial and hexes, someone else on your team should have a couple of hex removal spread amoung 2 other members.....

Some of you must have ran into me in TA playing my blinding ele At 15 energy cost casting blind around leaves the ele with very little energy to do much else with.... sure the air ele may be able to provide spike damage every 25 seconds or so, but really thats about it if they are busy blinding the entire time. And the time that the ele spikes a target, the damage isn't very impressivd at all compared to mezmers or warriors addrenaline spikes.

If you want to see whats annoying and spammable right now, its the dodge / storm chasser / oob / Vampiric touch / Vampiric bite Ranger.... From what I've seen since the Factions release, its becoming the IWAY of team arenas. Use Awaken the blood; sprint up to a target... and spam away vampiric touch / bite.... just watch your screen to make sure diversion doesn't come up as a hex condition and you're set. Backfire / Spell breaker doesn't work since both are "skills".

Dove_Song

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

nerf it now, every GvG I've been in for the past month I've had to go trapper b/c I am blind 90 percent of the time.

I think Ele's should be given their "gangbuster" powers back...i'd rather get killed by a huge NUKE KILLS FIRE BURNFEST...then die from bordem...

Turning Ele's into Blind Bots is not the way to keep the class viable in PvP.

We still win...but it's just rediculous....I'm tired of fighting 5 mes/ele's that all use blind then orb....

they go man to man...blind all the potential attackers...then call a target and spike it....

the recharge on this should be 45 seconds at least.

Ele's have plenty of other defensives that work in a blanced way...mist form...kenitic armor....obsidian flesh...etc.

Personaly......we're waiting till this FoTM wears off.

Xasew

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Storm Bearers[SB]

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There are so many new enchantment removals, that it's now more balanced than before.

Xpl0iter

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dove_Song
nerf it now, every GvG I've been in for the past month I've had to go trapper b/c I am blind 90 percent of the time.

I think Ele's should be given their "gangbuster" powers back...i'd rather get killed by a huge NUKE KILLS FIRE BURNFEST...then die from bordem...

Turning Ele's into Blind Bots is not the way to keep the class viable in PvP.

We still win...but it's just rediculous....I'm tired of fighting 5 mes/ele's that all use blind then orb....

they go man to man...blind all the potential attackers...then call a target and spike it....

the recharge on this should be 45 seconds at least.

Ele's have plenty of other defensives that work in a blanced way...mist form...kenitic armor....obsidian flesh...etc.

Personaly......we're waiting till this FoTM wears off.
*Laughs* judging a profession just by Blinding Flash? Am amazed.

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Originally Posted by Dove_Song
"Ele's have plenty of other defensives that work in a blanced way...mist form...kenitic armor....obsidian flesh...etc." You ripped dude? If we are there just to defend ourselves, its better we dont even go there at first place. if we can't contribute to the damn team and help save them, what is our point in that team any way ? Clear me, i am waiting.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

LMAO @ 45 seconds. If thats not a completely pointless rant that bypassed your brain i don't know what is. Your all whining simply because that blind bot ele is stopping you hurting anything? Anet stopped eles hurting anything, they found a new role instead, stopping YOU hurting anyone.

If you can't take it anymore go make yourself an elementalist and go kill the Master of Lightning in Isle of Nameless or go laugh at the Master of Hammers/Axes feeble attempts to hit you through Blind.

Xpl0iter

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
LMAO @ 45 seconds. If thats not a completely pointless rant that bypassed your brain i don't know what is. Your all whining simply because that blind bot ele is stopping you hurting anything? Anet stopped eles hurting anything, they found a new role instead, stopping YOU hurting anyone.

If you can't take it anymore go make yourself an elementalist and go kill the Master of Lightning in Isle of Nameless or go laugh at the Master of Hammers/Axes feeble attempts to hit you through Blind. Couldnt have agreed more.

gabrial heart

gabrial heart

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Eles have been nerfed hard, over and over... now there are not too many of them left. Just in pvp random and 4v4 arenas I may run into 5 or 6 eles a day as compared with 10 bazzilion warriors rangers (lately) and necros. How about throw dirt? Bet you dont like that skill either, why dont we nerf that one too! Oh wait, rangers went interupt instead so casters (like monks especially) can't get a spell off. Everytime I use my warrior in pvp gvg, I have no complaints compared to being a monk, which is almost totally useless in 4v4 and random arenas anymore. Most guilds that are any good in hoh run 3 monk builds anymore simple because monks have it the hardest.

-Next to no anti-interupt options
-Crapola e managment (unless your a bonder) channeling? what a joke!
-Almost ALWAYS the 1st target of aggro
-waaaaay too low base e for 8 man team
-WEAK ARMOR! lol

I'm not bitching, I love the challenge of being a monk! So buck up you tough guy/gal warriors, it'll be ok...

cookiemonkie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

FoTM? Its a valid build, has always been that way. Nothing new. Mist form, Obsidian Flesh, Kinetic Amor? Do you even know those skills and how (in)effective they are over the course of a battle, they do NOTHING to help your team. So are therefore useless to bring into team battles, those are PvE skills.

Blinding Flash is balanced perfectly fine. Too bad for the ele that the "energy storage" mainly for ether prodigy since every other energy storage skill is trash along with every other damage skill. That leaves the ele with nothing left but to use ether prodigy and spam defensive skills. ANET balanced the elementalist in such a sucky way.

Evilsod

Evilsod

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England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

I really doubt this was how they intended the ele to turn out. They just don't have an offensive role anymore, watching the top guilds in a GvG a week back they're E/Mo did nothing but spam Party, Blinding Flash and the occasional Ice Spikes to slow people down. Windbourne Speed obviously to help flag running etc, they really are no use as offensive characters, just snare and defensive.

Besides, Flash costs 15 energy, unless you spend your elite on Ether Prodigy there is no way in hell you can keep that up. With the new 1v1 feature try thinking up a pure ele build to kill a real person. Rangers just quit before you start, warriors, not a chance, mesmers, necros even a smiter monk? You lose miserably against all of these like it or not, add Blinding Flash in there then you can at least save yourself against Warriors and Rangers, and of course any team members they're attacking.

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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Ok im gonna take the middle ground here and just say it is slightly unbalanced. I mean I have played all the classes with many builds, ect, and i must admit that blinding flash is kinda unfair. Ele's can bring Air attune to reduce energy cost somewat and still keep spamming with energy regaining skills watever their preference on that matter. Considering that they have the ability to spam it, and with its relatively short casting time making it very hard to interupt. Also if you are lucky enough to have a monk in RA, (which i play very often as one), it is very hard to keep blind off those warriors with pretty good condition removal, due to cooldown times and the fact that is RA you cant build the same builds that work in GvG. I mean i could handle in GvG, conditions easily with certain builds, but they wouldnt work in RA due to the variety and the random part of it. So in RA, yes blinding flash is overpowered (even adding a sec or 2 to the recharge or lessing length a second or two could make the difference), but in all other pvp no it is not. If you dont bring condition removal in gvg and are complaining about it shame on you lol.
~sry in advance for any typos didnt proof-read to find any major errors.
~~edit: fixed a few grammar mistakes

cookiemonkie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

You are going to RA and saying the skill is unfair?

Xpl0iter

Xpl0iter

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Just A Digital Pimp Slap [DPS] - Guild Co-Leader

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Ok im gonna take the middle ground here and just say it is slightly unbalanced. I mean I have played all the classes with many builds, ect, and i must admit that blinding flash is kinda unfair. Ele's can bring Air attune to reduce energy cost somewat and still keep spamming with energy regaining skills watever their preference on that matter. Considering that they have the ability to spam it, and with its relatively short casting time making it very hard to interupt. Also if you are lucky enough to have a monk in RA, (which i play very often as one), it is very hard to keep blind off those warriors with pretty good condition removal, due to cooldown times and the fact that is RA you cant build the same builds that work in GvG. I mean i could handle in GvG, conditions easily with certain builds, but they wouldnt work in RA due to the variety and the random part of it. So in RA, yes blinding flash is overpowered (even adding a sec or 2 to the recharge or lessing length a second or two could make the difference), but in all other pvp no it is not. If you dont bring condition removal in gvg and are complaining about it shame on you lol.
~sry in advance for any typos didnt proof-read to find any major errors.
~~edit: fixed a few grammar mistakes am wondering what i should reply you with after reading your post....
Should i recomend you to try the built you actually mentioned in your post while being an elementalist? I suggest you stand in the shoes of that build which you just mentioned above before you even reply to me.

Sure, for PVP, you don't find it overpowered, but for RA, you do.
You, a ranger out of all, who has a trick for every possible side, plays one of the dirtiest builds arround to farm, has excellent damaging and hindering capabilities at most of the times, is saying blinding flash is overpowered, based on RA? ZOMG, i smell ...... a ranger.

Regardz
An Elementalist.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Just look on the bright side, the air ele isn't E/N using Virulence to add insult to injury