Since the Slots debate is off and running again, I thought this issue deserved its own thread to discuss.
Why would anyone not merge accounts? Is two slots worth being trapped in one area, with no way to access any old skills or news skills across all your characters?
This is not a thread to discuss slots. This is just to hear (hopefully) from someone who is planning not to merge accounts, and to hear his or her reasons.
Is Anyone not Merging?!?
Mordakai
Killmur
I plan on merging BUT I may endup buying a second copy of Factions and reactivating my FPE account.
Big_Iron
/merge
Former Ruling
Only an idiot wouldn't merge. People don't look at it both ways...They think they are getting cheated but their not.
Anyway you look at you owning 1 game on your acct gets you 4 slots, and owning two gets you 6 slots.
People say "But People with only Factions gets 4 slots with factions and I only get 2 RIP RIP JIP RIP JIP BLAH" My response?..."Well DUH....Didn't you get 4 slots with your first game on acct?" "Yea...well..." "Yea just shut up thats what I thought."
/merge
Anyway you look at you owning 1 game on your acct gets you 4 slots, and owning two gets you 6 slots.
People say "But People with only Factions gets 4 slots with factions and I only get 2 RIP RIP JIP RIP JIP BLAH" My response?..."Well DUH....Didn't you get 4 slots with your first game on acct?" "Yea...well..." "Yea just shut up thats what I thought."
/merge
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Former Ruling
Only an idiot wouldn't merge. People don't look at it both ways...They think they are getting cheated but their not.
Anyway you look at you owning 1 game on your acct gets you 4 slots, and owning two gets you 6 slots. People say "But People with only Factions gets 4 slots with factions and I only get 2 RIP RIP JIP RIP JIP BLAH" My response?..."Well DUH....Didn't you get 4 slots with your first game on acct?" "Yea...well..." "Yea just shut up thats what I thought." /merge |
Let's keep this on possible reasons why people would not merge (I think it's pretty obvious why people are merging...)
Former Ruling
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
Thanks for your thoughts, but I really don't want to turn this into a slot debate.
Let's keep this on possible reasons why people would not merge (I think it's pretty obvious why people are merging...) |
"I think it's pretty obvious why people are merging" - To get access to their unlocks and such on faction based characters.
Saying dont mention slots is like saying "Hey, Lets talk about why people get jobs, but NO TALKING ABOUT MONEY and/or MONEY ISSUES"
Mordakai
Right, well, to be clear:
We can discuss the issue of why people wouldn't link without calling them idiots or telling them to shut up.
There are plenty of threads doing that already.
So, yes, you need to mention slots obviously, but you don't have to be rude about it. That's what I was getting at. I didn't want another flame thread.
We can discuss the issue of why people wouldn't link without calling them idiots or telling them to shut up.
There are plenty of threads doing that already.
So, yes, you need to mention slots obviously, but you don't have to be rude about it. That's what I was getting at. I didn't want another flame thread.
Diablo???
I rather have one big cake, than two little cakes.
/merge.
/merge.
Da Cebuano
exactly, what are you gonna do w/ your prophecies only account when you'll be playing factions mostly? what about the stuff you're accumulated in phophecies if you can't use them in factions? no point in not merging, but GG to others who don't.
SilentAssassin
I am not happy with the only 6 slot things, I want 1 slot extra for PvP
BUT
I am merging just because I pvp alot and need all skills for this
BUT
I am merging just because I pvp alot and need all skills for this
eternal pho
if only there could be 8 slots...
neoteo
my math is simple
4 slots = 1 year of game
2 slots = 6 months
if we are going to have guildwars 5 , 6 , 7 ... i hope 20 !! where is the reason for not merging , 1 huge world , or 20 mini worlds ? ...
who doesnt want to bring his first char to the latest chapter ... i dont think anyone who only has one guildwars acount and get factions will not merge.
people not merging , have 3 guildwars acount and will buy 3 factions acounts , merging some and others dont ... slots maniacs
4 slots = 1 year of game
2 slots = 6 months
if we are going to have guildwars 5 , 6 , 7 ... i hope 20 !! where is the reason for not merging , 1 huge world , or 20 mini worlds ? ...
who doesnt want to bring his first char to the latest chapter ... i dont think anyone who only has one guildwars acount and get factions will not merge.
people not merging , have 3 guildwars acount and will buy 3 factions acounts , merging some and others dont ... slots maniacs
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by neoteo
my math is simple
4 slots = 1 year of game 2 slots = 6 months |
If someone buys Factions, (installed separately) they get 4 slots.
If they merge with Chapter 3 (6 months later) they get 2 more.
In other words, your math should be:
4 slots = initial purchase
2 slots = each merged account (from what we know so far)
so much for not being about slots. I suppose it's inevitable
neoteo
guildwars 1 = 4 slots = 1 year
guildwars 2 = 2 slots = 6 months
guildwars 3 = 2 slots = 6 months
where did i fail ?
not merging should mean you dont have anyother guildwars acount thats why you get 4 . in any version.
if you get factions first you get 4 , and then if you buy chapter 3 you get 2 more , and if you get chapter 1 you get 2 more ..
guildwars 2 = 2 slots = 6 months
guildwars 3 = 2 slots = 6 months
where did i fail ?
not merging should mean you dont have anyother guildwars acount thats why you get 4 . in any version.
if you get factions first you get 4 , and then if you buy chapter 3 you get 2 more , and if you get chapter 1 you get 2 more ..
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by neoteo
guildwars 1 = 4 slots = 1 year
guildwars 2 = 2 slots = 6 months guildwars 3 = 2 slots = 6 months where did i fail ? |
Your Math only works for those presently playing GW. Anyone who purchases Factions as their first GW product will be on a 6 month timeline for expansions (if things go according to plan).
Chapter 2 (new) = 4 slots = 6 months
Chapter 3 (linked) = 2 slots = 6 months
Chapter 4 (linked) = 2 slots = 6 months
18 months = 8 slots.
(As opposed to us, where 18 months = 6 slots) Make sense?
EDIT: Actually, the later you get in the game, the more instant slots you have access to, because you can immediately buy past Chapters to get instant slots without waiting. Basically, linking slots to a timeline just doesn't work.
neoteo
well , actualy i think anet should give just 1 slot , for people being so anoying
crimsonfilms
I have 2 accounts. I am only buying one and merging. ANet's greedy 6 slot if merged policy is idiotic. No 4+4 = 6 math is going to convince me and others alike. No extra money from me.
BTW - merging content argument is a red herring. Its an attempt to confuse the matter.
As if merging is somekind of special gift to us LOYAL users. What did they expect? People not merge?
They make it sound like as if merging is some kind of luxury. It is at best an expected feature.
BTW - merging content argument is a red herring. Its an attempt to confuse the matter.
As if merging is somekind of special gift to us LOYAL users. What did they expect? People not merge?
They make it sound like as if merging is some kind of luxury. It is at best an expected feature.
Mordakai
I guess I should have titled this thread:
"Is offering 4 slots for unlinked accounts a false choice?"
"Is offering 4 slots for unlinked accounts a false choice?"
neoteo
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Originally Posted by crimsonfilms
I have 2 accounts. I am only buying one and merging. ANet's greedy 6 slot if merged policy is idiotic. No 4+4 = 6 math is going to convince me and others alike. No extra money from me.
BTW - merging content argument is a red herring. Its an attempt to confuse the matter. As if merging is somekind of special gift to us LOYAL users. What did they expect? People not merge? They make it sound like as if merging is some kind of luxury. It is at best an expected feature. |
thats not it at all , its very simple , of corse people that have the game will merge , the point is , for people that dont have they can play chapter 2 without having to buy the first one.
i really think anet should cut down the merging slot bonus to 1 , people are stupid to complain so much , 1 slot is what they sould give .
guildwars is 1 game . you dont need to buy all expencions to play it , thats why when not merging you get 4 slots . its your starter kit .
if you dont want to merge becose you only get 2 extra slots , well dont merge it , thats your problem .
if anet would just give one for the merging , i think people would see it more like what im saying and not even would thing about 4+4=8 ...
but they are nice , they give us 2 , and we cry about it .. booooo
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by neoteo
i really think anet should cut down the merging slot bonus to 1 , people are stupid to complain so much , 1 slot is what they sould give .
but they are nice , they give us 2 , and we cry about it .. booooo |
Before it gets closed, let me just say, as long as some people want to try out every Profession primary without deleting old characters, then some people will complain. As customers, that's their right.
Anet isn't being "nice", they're being good business people... because there's no way 4 linked slots cost significantly more than 4 unlinked slots.
But Anet know most people will link, so they save money (?!?) by having most players have 6 slots instead of 8.
Those that want more, will buy more copies, thus making Anet - more money!
I have no problem with this, I want Anet to make money. I just think they should be up front about it, and all this "fuzzy math," "balance issues", and other baloney just pisses off people who know better.
neoteo
you want to know my real opinion , if this was a " true " RPG game , 1 slot in first chapter and if you merge you get zero .
you role play that char or you dont play .
you role play that char or you dont play .
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by neoteo
you want to know my real opinion , if this was a " true " RPG game , 1 slot in first chapter and if you merge you get zero .
you role play that char or you dont play . |
Thank Anet this is not a "true" RPG...
neoteo
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
If this was a "true" RPG, everytime you died, you'd have to make up a new character.
Thank Anet this is not a "true" RPG... |
Zehnchu
Keeping on topic.
Yes I will be /merging.
Yes I will be /merging.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by neoteo
yes , and you'd have to sleep and eat also
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It's too bad D&D didn't do that with their online game... sounds fun! /sarcasm
Actually, can you imagine the props for a Level 20 in a game where you did have to re-roll a level 1 character when your old one died?!?
Mtank325
I'm debating right now in my mind. I probably will, but I was thinking of not for a few reasons. I figure firstly that I don't really do the missions with my level 20s now in Prophecies so the chances of me doing any other missions with my current characters in Factions would probably be unlikely. Second, I would like to get the two new characters plus recreate my first character ever, but then I figure I might not like either Assassin or Ritualist so perhaps I'll end up having a slot for it anyways. Thirdly, I think having a second account would be beneficiary for being able to branch these two guilds that I'm in/associated with, but then there's the whole alliance thing and guesting isn't that bad. Fourthly I don't know if I want to re-do everything and I would like to be able to pull out my stronger characters in newer areas to explore first.
I'm leaning towards merging, but meh, it's still a months away.
I'm leaning towards merging, but meh, it's still a months away.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Mtank325
I'm debating right now in my mind. I probably will, but I was thinking of not for a few reasons. I figure firstly that I don't really do the missions with my level 20s now in Prophecies so the chances of me doing any other missions with my current characters in Factions would probably be unlikely. Second, I would like to get the two new characters plus recreate my first character ever, but then I figure I might not like either Assassin or Ritualist so perhaps I'll end up having a slot for it anyways. Thirdly, I think having a second account would be beneficiary for being able to branch these two guilds that I'm in/associated with, but then there's the whole alliance thing and guesting isn't that bad. Fourthly I don't know if I want to re-do everything and I would like to be able to pull out my stronger characters in newer areas to explore first.
I'm leaning towards merging, but meh, it's still a months away. |
To summarize your points:
- If you're not bringing in your level 20s from Prophecy, why bother?
- Re-make old characters (I identify with this, actually - I'm thinking about remaking my Mesmer and Warrior in Cantha skins)
- Two Guilds
Wrath Of Dragons
/merge
Grimm
I will be cheerfully and without a second thought merging.
IMO, only an idiot would not.
IMO, only an idiot would not.
Killmur
Once I merge I may remake my Ele as a Factions E/Mo. I already will be making my old main character into a A/R. If I do so then I will have 2 Core and 4 Faction slots. I wouldn't mind remaking my Ele in Factions. It would be both for new looks and the fact that she has 299+ Deaths. I uh made the mistake of getting her to L20 as a E/N... Also I wouldn't mind experiencing Factions from scratch with my Ele.
lyra_song
If you want to be competitive in PVP, you pretty much HAVE to merge.
CyberNigma
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Originally Posted by Diablo™
I rather have one big cake, than two little cakes.
/merge. |
:-)
EDIT: I probably am going to merge. I haven't committed to anything yet, except since I am a Guild Leader the experience of the PWE wasn't so bad that I wouldn't get it (got the pre-order). So that's a definite on getting it (unless something changes my mind between now and then), and maybe (probably) on merging my two accounts.
CyberNigma
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Originally Posted by neoteo
you want to know my real opinion , if this was a " true " RPG game , 1 slot in first chapter and if you merge you get zero .
you role play that char or you dont play . |
another player Jane to play when Barbara is hosting,
a character John to play in when Bob is hosting while Jim is out doing mundane things in the background,
and Jenna to play while Barbara is hosting and Jane is in the background doing mundane things..
We have all roleplayed differently over the past 20-30 years I imagine...
:-)
neoteo
there is a good reason for not merging some where
if you want to be in 2 guilds
and start 3 or 4 RPG chars no matter where ...
i agree with all the reasons for merging and not merging , i dont agree with the slot complaining.
if you want to be in 2 guilds
and start 3 or 4 RPG chars no matter where ...
i agree with all the reasons for merging and not merging , i dont agree with the slot complaining.
Sereng Amaranth
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Originally Posted by neoteo
well , actualy i think anet should give just 1 slot , for people being so anoying
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give them half a slot!!! only level 10 for you!!!
ok guys...maybe you are forgetting...you don't get just 2 characters for Factions...you bring your other 4 friends there also
as Gaile has said before...
8 * 50% < 6 * 100%
and if this logic continues...
12 * 33% < 8 * 100%
16 * 25% < 10 * 100%
etc
Corinthian
You can't have everything. I have a PVP slot, a warrior, ranger and a monk. I do not have an ele, necromancer or mesmer. I also want a ritualist and an assassin. That would be 5 more slots! However, I'll be merging, and let other people be the assassin, mesmer, necro or ele. Possible reason not to merge is to have every class primary playable in PvE. So far that's the only reason I can come up with. 
anonymous
I'm merging because missing alot of skills from ch1 and unlocking everything again plus being limited to one chapter is not worth 2 slots imo.
burtonk
I am not going to merge, I am treating this second chapter as a new game and will start from square one with everything. I have played the first chapter for a year and have enjoyed it, so I think I will do the same with chapter two.
Kool Pajamas
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Originally Posted by burtonk
I am not going to merge, I am treating this second chapter as a new game and will start from square one with everything. I have played the first chapter for a year and have enjoyed it, so I think I will do the same with chapter two.
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DFrost
I'll definitely merge since I want my current characters to access all areas, both in Tyria and in Cantha. Consequently getting only two more slots isn't really a problem for me, since I have no plans to make both an A and a Ri. Neither of the new classes seem as interesting to me as the ones in Prophecies. I actually might end up making a necro and saving the last spot for a PvP character.