Purchase More Character Slots!

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul Torn
EDIT: I doubt they will continue to add additional slots each expansion now, it would not make sense business wise
any time a chapter has a new profession instead of just more content they will have a slot (s) for the new profession (s) otherwise no.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

hmm I just thought of something..

Slots are $10 a shot... GW Retail is around $40... you get 4 slots in an unmerged slot... aka it divides evenly but the bonus is there merged...

Soul Torn

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

check your 6

Disciples of Mordor (LOTR)

Quote:
Originally Posted by EternalTempest
hmm I just thought of something..

Slots are $10 a shot... GW Retail is around $40... you get 4 slots in an unmerged slot... aka it divides evenly but the bonus is there merged...

Thats exactly why they priced it that way.

coldplay

coldplay

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

NYC

Daoine Sidhe

Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonfilms
Exactly! The no monthly thing becomes a license to milk it.

More weapons skins for $5 - 'hey we have no monthly'
More storage for $3 - 'hey we have no monthly'
Combine 2 accounts $10 - 'hey we have no monthly'
Server goes down - 'hey we have no monthly'
Faster server access $10 -'hey we have no monthly'
I am afraid of A-net may go down to this road. Selling character slot just a start.

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Anyone who is complaining isn't making much sense - as it is if you want more slots you need to do what I and many others did - buy a whole copy of the game to use that way. The WONDERFUL people at anet finally saw that people really wanted the extra space, and that it is reasonable, and probably when they were working on giving us extra slots for Factions ensured an easier way to add more slots. Those who have another account, it's too bad, but you know what - it's a bargain at 10$ If I wanted all 8 of my slots to be playing Factions I'd need to buy 2 copies of Factions - this way I spend 10$ a few times and I'm set with one copy. Add a few more expansions and I'll have saved a ton of money compared to buying extra copies of each. It looks pretty good to me.

coldplay

coldplay

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

NYC

Daoine Sidhe

Quote:
Originally Posted by EternalTempest
hmm I just thought of something..

Slots are $10 a shot... GW Retail is around $40... you get 4 slots in an unmerged slot... aka it divides evenly but the bonus is there merged...
A-net should charge $25 for a slot cuz I will get 2 extra slot only if I merge my factions account to original account. that's $49.99 for 2 slots

Soul Torn

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

check your 6

Disciples of Mordor (LOTR)

Quote:
Originally Posted by coldplay
A-net should charge $25 for a slot cuz I will get 2 extra slot only if I merge my factions account to original account. that's $49.99 for 2 slots
$49.99 buys you 2 slots, and also Cantha, which is what you are really paying for

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by coldplay
I am afraid of A-net may go down to this road. Selling character slot just a start.
I sincerely hope not. Just look what Bethesda have done; they marketed Oblivion primarily as an Xbox 360 title (whereas previous games were PC primary), removed more features from the prequels and have now gone on to charge money for honestly completely worthless sounding mods e.g. horse armour. That's from the previous game where they made 8 free mods.

Now I know it's a business and done to make money but I'd think Guild Wars has sold enough and will continue to sell enough that Anet/NCSoft don't feel the need to start using dubious tactics like removing things/holding them back and then trying to sell them to everyone at extra cost. Brand loyalty and a huge fanbase that generally likes the game is more important than trying to make a quick buck - they will lose customers if they go down that path.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

$10 per slot is exactly what you pay for a game you do not link.

4 character slots and 1 storage at $10 each = $50

This is far from a rip off and is exactly the same as buying a brand new account. Since GW is impossible to run 2 instances at the same time withough breaking the user agreement I'd agree with these prices.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

if you go back some of the people wanting slots said they would go as high as 15 a slot.

10 is a bargain. you asked (whined) they gave you what you said you wanted now you whine some more

Server goes down - 'hey we have no monthly'

HOW OFTEN IS IT DOWN COMPARED TO THE OTHERS?

Elmer Acco

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

Lost In Tyria

W/E

I for one am very excited about this. Some quick math tells me that 4 character slots @ $9.99 = $39.96 instead of $49.95 for another account saves me $9.99 plus I dont have to deal with the problems associated with having two accounts. Way to go A-net!!!

Soul Torn

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

check your 6

Disciples of Mordor (LOTR)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
if you go back some of the people wanting slots said they would go as high as 15 a slot.

10 is a bargain. you asked (whined) they gave you what you said you wanted now you whine some more

Server goes down - 'hey we have no monthly'

HOW OFTEN IS IT DOWN COMPARED TO THE OTHERS?


/signed and qft!

Josh

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonfilms
Its a ripoff. $10 for a character slot?

This just proves the point that silly Math that Gaile and crew tried to pass as logic why only 2 extra slots - was silly of course. How can we not laugh at that now?


Unfortunately, the cynical truth - more money - has always been the real reason.
RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO of, sorry mods/admins, but that is pathetic, when will people learn to shut the hell up?

Whenever an update is out, there is ALWAYS someone who is not happy. This game doesn't cost monthly and have constant down-times *COUGH* WOW *COUGH* and has wonderful graphics that isn't a game that needs a high-end graphics card to play and we get constant updates in 1 of the best ways possibly streamed to us with fast download rates.

And the only way ANet get money is people buying the actual Game itself and a few other minor ways probably somehow.

Also, this feature has been requested for TOO long, now it's out soon, it's coming, sit down, shutup, enjoy the feature. Don't want to buy more slots? Go cry else where.

ANet have plenty of things to pay for and they have a minimal amount of income resources to my view at the moment, they have to pay for Advertisement, Shipment, Staff Wages, Competition Prizes, Merchandise, Servers, etc the list goes on.


Although the next thing on the list, people will be whining to buy more Storage, it's guaranteed and I can't blame them, as with just 4, Storage is too little. But come to think of it, I guess they could just buy another Slot for a Mule but that's just a pain...lol.


Soul Torn: I guarantee they will still give slots with each expansion that includes new professions.
twicky_kid: You can run 2 Guild Wars without breaking any agreements...

coldplay

coldplay

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

NYC

Daoine Sidhe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul Torn
$49.99 buys you 2 slots, and also Cantha, which is what you are really paying for
$49.99 bought me 4 slots, and also Tyria, 1 year ago. Gosh, inflation is good.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
if you go back some of the people wanting slots said they would go as high as 15 a slot.

10 is a bargain. you asked (whined) they gave you what you said you wanted now you whine some more

Server goes down - 'hey we have no monthly'

HOW OFTEN IS IT DOWN COMPARED TO THE OTHERS?
Yep - Keep an eye on FFXI for there new expansion and the downtime they will have geting PC, XBOX360, and PS2 updates .. and you pay 12.95 a month

Soul Torn

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

check your 6

Disciples of Mordor (LOTR)

Quote:
Originally Posted by coldplay
$49.99 bought me 4 slots, and also Tyria, 1 year ago. Gosh, inflation is good.
haha, good stuff there coldplay. Makes sense to me, except you can always use it as a seperate game and get your moneys worth. $49.99 gets you 4 slots, and all of cantha. If you look at it that way and dont merge then its equal

I think they worked it the only way they could in order to release a full game and not an expansion.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

This is great! Now i can have all 8 primary professions on one account and multiple pvp slots. Yay!

I would have paid even more than $10 for additional slots!

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonfilms
Don't try to mathemically explain this using previous math techniques supplied by ANet because it will fail.

Slots are not content in the same way that $10 portion of GW:Faction is not just a slot.
Still the same value. The $10 one time charge is cheap for an additional slot that last FOREVER.

I found $50 in just change the other day.

OFF-TOPIC

Oh yeah for Bank Of America users you can have your changed saved for you automaticly. There is a program that uses your debit or checking that will take your change and deposit it into a saving account on every purchase. Example if you bought something that is $3.72 it will round up to $4 and deposit the 0.28 cent into your savings account for you.

Over time that can really add up.

Arcien Trueflight

Arcien Trueflight

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Retrieving an arrow from my latest kill.

Nova Alliance [Nova]

R/E

You know, a good point to be made is that you don't have to buy the slots...No one's forcing you, and yet, people still complain about them... You can either shut up and pay up, if that's what you want, or you can do exactly as your doing now and go without the opportunity. It's really that simple...Doesn't really seem like there needs to be that much a big deal about it. Anet needs profit. We need character slots. Unless you plan on picketing the office to save yourself the few dollars between having the slots and not having them, and be able to buy yourself a coke and a bag of chips to placate your boredom, then really. Buy the slots, or don't.

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonfilms
Its a ripoff. $10 for a character slot?

This just proves the point that silly Math that Gaile and crew tried to pass as logic why only 2 extra slots - was silly of course. How can we not laugh at that now?


Unfortunately, the cynical truth - more money - has always been the real reason.
/agree

Perhaps if the price was more reasonable like half what they are asking it might be fine.

SilentAssassin

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

1 extra slot for meeeee

man A.net, I love you !!!!!

Renegade ++RIP++

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Crimson is correct though.

In the previous threads concerning characterslots on factions we got put off by the happy bunch that slots where not content in a similar way as access to the continent was. So why these people considered the loss of 2 slots when merged as a non issue contentwise spoken. And now when we disagree these same people that previously stated this state now that characterslots are in fact content... please make up your minds... since it can't be both. If it isn't content then the equation of 4*10 + access to cantha = 50 is complete and utter bunk, since if we would consider that reasoning it would in my view be more something along the lines of: 4 *2.5 + access to cantha + new skills = 50. Although we could even discuss the number 50 seeing that i can easilly buy it already for less then 40 bucks... (see the tesco thread, or check some other online shops) which would value the access to cantha to a negative value comparatively speaking. And if it is content, then you will have to agree that with the merger we did get the shaft. in any case, its a win win situation in any case for me, seeing you guys will have to admit to be wrong at least once

edit: spelling

coldplay

coldplay

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

NYC

Daoine Sidhe

I get the feeling of A-net is getting greedy. maybe they need cash to make up for sales drop

TalonTheCat

TalonTheCat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Black Cat Guild

Mo/

Yipee! I wish I could merge my two accounts too, but can't have everything.

crimsonfilms

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcien Trueflight
You know, a good point to be made is that you don't have to buy the slots...No one's forcing you, and yet, people still complain about them... You can either shut up and pay up, if that's what you want, or you can do exactly as your doing now and go without the opportunity. It's really that simple...
Seriously, people have to stop resorting to this 'don't buy it' or 'go play WoW' counter. It is a cop out. And ignores the point of a forum - you know to discuss things? To write about our opinions and experiences?

Can we be more tolerable or enlighten to elevate beyond the 'STFU'??

If people played WoW instead or just accepted the 2 slot pseudo math you would have probably not have gotten your $10/slot option to begin with.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...09#post1279209

Biggest news I've heard from Gaile in a long time.

Timeline for buyable character slots is sometime in Summer.

I assume the Item Aggro "bug" will be fixed before Factions is released, so Ritualists will be able to play as normal characters.

Arcien Trueflight

Arcien Trueflight

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Retrieving an arrow from my latest kill.

Nova Alliance [Nova]

R/E

Yes, but complaining over the monetary difference between a character slot that you only have to buy ONCE, and whatever else your going to use the 4-5 bucks else to do, what is the better option? I don't find 10 dollars disagreeable at all. You pay 40 for 4 slots, and 10 per. Makes sense to me. I'll do it, and I'm poor as hell already...But I need the slots, don't feel like shelling out for an extra account, and this way I can swap my items in between characters without having my guildies store 'em for me. It's a win-win for both us and Anet. People just like to complain.

Katari

Katari

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Upstate

Me/

Allright, ignoring whatever you may think about the 4+4=6 deal...

Lets say you want more slots, you have two options:
Buy 2x accounts, which would cost 50x4=$200 for 12 slots if you're getting factions. And they're not even linked.

Or you could buy more slots: 50x2+6x10=$160 for 12 slots And you get the benifit of having linked storage faction and fame. Of course most people won't go ahead and purchase 6 slots, so it's like having the option to buy half a game.

If I feel I don't have enough slots, I could spend $200 and not have linked accounts. Or I could spend $130-$160 and have them all on one linked account.

If chapter3 adds two more chars, and two more slots, then it'll look even better. $10 is a little less than I expected per slot personaly, I love the idea.

coldplay

coldplay

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

NYC

Daoine Sidhe

Interesting pricing theories:

1.
Faction is priced $49.99, which makes it like a brand new first tie game like GW:Prophecies was. Well, it carries over a lot of stuff from Prophecies. I will have to spend about $20-$25 worth of value for "copy-paste lines of codes work"

2.
$10 for a character slot, $40=4 character slots. So all the Cantha, pvp contents and other stuff worth $9.99 only. I wish I had choice to pay $9.99 for Factions without extra character slot.

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

yey!!!!! finally a charachter for every occasion!!!!!!

devils wraths

devils wraths

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

the fianna [fi]

E/Mo

one thing i wanna know are you limited to how many u can have on your account or not.

wheel

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

Guild Wars Factions: Upgrade Edition
  • Add 4 character slots to your existing 4!!! 8 total!!!!
  • Access to Cantha!!
  • $69.99
Guild Wars Factions: Standard Edition
  • Get 4 character slots!!
  • Access to Cantha!!
  • $49.99
I love how ArenaNet charges more for repeat customers to get the same utility out of the same product as a new customer. Way to go!!! Seriously Anet, if you want to have your current customer base expand, stuff like this needs to stop happening.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade ++RIP++
Crimson is correct though.

In the previous threads concerning characterslots on factions we got put off by the happy bunch that slots where not content in a similar way as access to the continent was. So why these people considered the loss of 2 slots when merged as a non issue contentwise spoken. And now when we disagree these same people that previously stated this state now that characterslots are in fact content... please make up your minds... since it can't be both. If it isn't content then the equation of 4*10 + access to cantha = 50 is complete and utter bunk, since if we would consider that reasoning it would in my view be more something along the lines of: 4 *2.5 + access to cantha + new skills = 50. Although we could even discuss the number 50 seeing that i can easilly buy it already for less then 40 bucks... (see the tesco thread, or check some other online shops) which would value the access to cantha to a negative value comparatively speaking. And if it is content, then you will have to agree that with the merger we did get the shaft. in any case, its a win win situation in any case for me, seeing you guys will have to admit to be wrong at least once

edit: spelling
<- Content with 6 mergeds slots. They only promised 1 from the start, gave us 2.
<- Content with $10 slots. Seems fair price and a requested feature.

I'm happy with both and don't feel we got the shaft.

Storage is mute point due to soon changes on how things are stored to end up giving us more room w/o needing to buy anything and it will be free to all C1 and C2 owners.

Diluant De Peau

Diluant De Peau

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Shadow of Lust [SoL]

W/N

kinda crazy 10 bucks for a slot...meh

doomqueen

doomqueen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Anet is like blizz we NEED^^ money more money... what we ll do who have 2 acc, dam why they didint tell this before, i'm totaly disapointed what they done to ppl who have 2 acc or more acc.
maby in future ll can buy more storage, pet control, henc control... they have all on to do list... grrrr

coldplay

coldplay

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

NYC

Daoine Sidhe

"PPL, pay $20 for a flawless Factions account merge, its a win-win !!!"

I kinda like this appears on Guildwars.com

Josh

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by wheel
Guild Wars Factions: Upgrade Edition
  • Add 4 character slots to your existing 4!!! 8 total!!!!
  • Access to Cantha!!
  • $69.99
Guild Wars Factions: Standard Edition
  • Get 4 character slots!!
  • Access to Cantha!!
  • $49.99
I love how ArenaNet charges more for repeat customers to get the same utility out of the same product as a new customer. Way to go!!! Seriously Anet, if you want to have your current customer base expand, stuff like this needs to stop happening.
Yes but you see, when this idea was suggested, people were willing to go as high as $15, so $10 seems fine I guess.

wheel

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Yes but you see, when this idea was suggested, people were willing to go as high as $15, so $10 seems fine I guess.
I have no problems personally with the $10 per slot, but if those who have purchased both Factions and Prophecies don't get 8 slots out of the gate, they're getting ripped off.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by wheel
Guild Wars Factions: Upgrade Edition
  • Add 4 character slots to your existing 4!!! 8 total!!!!
  • Access to Cantha!!
  • $69.99
Guild Wars Factions: Standard Edition
  • Get 4 character slots!!
  • Access to Cantha!!
  • $49.99
I love how ArenaNet charges more for repeat customers to get the same utility out of the same product as a new customer. Way to go!!! Seriously Anet, if you want to have your current customer base expand, stuff like this needs to stop happening.
You forgot to subtract the amount for the fact that your 4 existing characters also have access to cantha, and the 4 new ones have access to tyria.

Rok

Rok

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Guild Wars

Wow, you guys just like to complain don't you? Kinda sad really.

$10 for another slot is fair. I will buy 2 so I have 1 slot per primary profession and that is enough for me. Other people will buy as many as they can for extra storage/mules. We will have to wait and see when it is implemented if they will impose a limit - although it seems likely there will be, how many can you fit on one screen?

Thanks Anet for listening, good luck dealing with all the constant complainers!