I suspect future chapters would provide similar amount of slots for addition if you link them as well to your current account. And also PvE only players dont really care about UAS anyways hence this provide them an alernative to be able to play all classes with having to buy 2 copies of GWP should they choose not to unlink them.
Look at it this way, if Anet decide to give us the 8 slots for linking, those pples who have only GWP or GWF only will start to complaint about unbalancing issues of character slots forcing players to buy GWF and link them to be competitive ...blah bla blah
Secondly having the 8 slots would lock Anet into giving us additional 4 more for the next chapter which may not even have new professions, raising expectations digging a large hole for themselves 4+4+4=12 slots...... i dont think even i would use that many but we will complaint that its our right we paid the money for those slot.. blah bla blah...see where this is going?
Please dont be mistaken, i am a player who wants more character slots as well and i wont have enough to play the ritualist cause i wanted to roll a mesmer and a assassin from the 2 slots from linking. But seening how the retail model Anet choose to adopt, i find it hard to hope that it will change from the 2 slot we will get from linking the both chapters and 4+4 unlinked. hope it makes some sense.
Seran
Merged: Character Slots
Thallandor
Loviatar
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If they are "halves of a great hole" then it is an expansion, which would justify 2+ character slots. But if we see it as an expansion then why is it going to costs $50, the price of a whole game? Bottom line is A-net is being stingy with their recurring customers.
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import your character and you might call it an expansion.
did they charge full price for a new games worth of content?
they sure did.
could you pick it up and play it without having the original BALDURS GATE and get a full game?
yes ypu could and they got a full price for a full game.
FACTIONS offers you 2 simple choices.
play it as a seperate full game in and of itself
OR
you can choose to merge your accounts and continue the adventure (same as BG) with your chapter 1 characters and given a 2 slot bonus for the new professions so you do not have to delete a single character to add your 2 new adventurers.
you may not like one/both of the new professions in which case you can fill out the core 6 from chapter 1 instead.
wsmcasey
I've solved my problem and deleted all my characters.
I'm building only 1 pve character to play with until factions is released. So, when factions starts and I merge accounts, I'll have 1 lvl20 character that I enjoy from chapter1 and 5 extra slots to do what ever I like in factions. I don't really enjoy chapter1 anymore since I've done everything, I even shelved the game for 2 months and came back a month ago just to start getting bored again.
I'm thinking of it like a good spring cleaning. A fresh start. A new experience. I might as well make that new factions experience with new character names and faces. It was a hard decision to let go of old characters I played for so many hours, but its just a game.
The only bummer I had in doing it was expert salvaging one of my warrior armors with superior absorption only to get 40 iron ingots
Stupid game. Why pay extra gold to the merchant for an expert savage if the damn thing doesn't work! Lost about 50k because of that crap.
I'm building only 1 pve character to play with until factions is released. So, when factions starts and I merge accounts, I'll have 1 lvl20 character that I enjoy from chapter1 and 5 extra slots to do what ever I like in factions. I don't really enjoy chapter1 anymore since I've done everything, I even shelved the game for 2 months and came back a month ago just to start getting bored again. I'm thinking of it like a good spring cleaning. A fresh start. A new experience. I might as well make that new factions experience with new character names and faces. It was a hard decision to let go of old characters I played for so many hours, but its just a game.
The only bummer I had in doing it was expert salvaging one of my warrior armors with superior absorption only to get 40 iron ingots
Stupid game. Why pay extra gold to the merchant for an expert savage if the damn thing doesn't work! Lost about 50k because of that crap.
TRUEgamer
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The only bummer I had in doing it was expert salvaging one of my warrior armors with superior absorption only to get 40 iron ingots
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That really, really sucks. I would've started killing merchants if that happened to me.
wsmcasey
I would gladly pay an extra 1-5k for a Super Duper Expert Salvage kit if I knew the damn thing would work!
Thallandor
i have a Sup ABS rune on my platemail armour i am planning to scrap.......sure makes for a comforting though after reading that. Sorry about the salvage though.
Andy_M
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WAS BALDURS GATE 2 an expansion or was it a standalone game?
import your character and you might call it an expansion. did they charge full price for a new games worth of content? they sure did. could you pick it up and play it without having the original BALDURS GATE and get a full game? yes ypu could and they got a full price for a full game. FACTIONS offers you 2 simple choices. play it as a seperate full game in and of itself OR you can choose to merge your accounts and continue the adventure (same as BG) with your chapter 1 characters and given a 2 slot bonus for the new professions so you do not have to delete a single character to add your 2 new adventurers. you may not like one/both of the new professions in which case you can fill out the core 6 from chapter 1 instead. |
I wasn't going to comment in this thread because I have made my point clear many times (and it's breaking into my Oblivion time..) but the above comparison is so bad as to be untrue. Comparing Factions to BG:2 - not the same situation at all.
Loviatar, I respect your point of view and your posts but BG:2 ? Come on...
Anyway I got me Vamps to kill for cash - laters.
Loviatar
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I but BG:2 ? Come on...
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i liked booalso how is OBLIVION GOING?
IS IT AS GOOD AS PROMISED ?
I AM WAITING FOR A VIDEO CARD UPGRADE TO ENJOY IT FULLY.
rollntider
hmm..i read a interview it might be an older one that they would have new professions with each new chapter. Maybe they changed that
Loviatar
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hmm..i read a interview it might be an older one that they would have new professions with each new chapter. Maybe they changed that
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recent interview(strain?)
Kais Unduli
I have read in interviews with Jeff Strain that there will be new professions with each chapter along with new character slots with each chapter. Don't remember if it was 2 for 2 regarding each new part, but I would hope so.
Mordakai
I think there will be two new proffessions per chapter for awhile, but I can foresee a time in the future with no new professions. I'm thinking about Chapter 10+.... (24 professions by Chapter 10?)
By then, they can simple "revamp" older professions, and people who missed a Chapter will be happy, and people who have the profession already will get a chance to find even more skills.
By then, they can simple "revamp" older professions, and people who missed a Chapter will be happy, and people who have the profession already will get a chance to find even more skills.
Mordakai
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I've solved my problem and deleted all my characters.
I'm building only 1 pve character to play with until factions is released. So, when factions starts and I merge accounts, I'll have 1 lvl20 character that I enjoy from chapter1 and 5 extra slots to do what ever I like in factions. I don't really enjoy chapter1 anymore since I've done everything, I even shelved the game for 2 months and came back a month ago just to start getting bored again. I'm thinking of it like a good spring cleaning. A fresh start. A new experience. I might as well make that new factions experience with new character names and faces. It was a hard decision to let go of old characters I played for so many hours, but its just a game. |
It's funny, after playing a W/Ra in the Preview, I actually thought about scrapping my W/Mo from Prophecy. Right now, I'm stressing trying to get her through all the missions before Factions is released... and why?!?
Why not just delete her and start over? After all, I don't even have any Sup Runes, or 15k armor, or any of that... so, thanks for your post, I'm actually considering doing the same thing.
(Sorry about the Sup Rune. But, who knows, maybe they'll be more common in Factions.... wishful thinking).
rollntider
There has been countless debates on whether 4+4=6 we all know the math.
I am not cancelling my factions pre order, and i am not gonna say 4+4=6 is awesome.I understand why they are doing it, but I digress.
This is a simple solution I think Anet needs to consider and i think would make everyone happy and actually net arena net more sales.
SInce currently you get 4 slots for each chapter (4 stand alone prophecies and 4 stand alone factions) and they will be 6 once merged, why not allow 9 when merged, and add +1 for each expansion. Example
4 (prophecies)+4 (factions)= 8 slots +1 bonus for merging accounts that induces people that are factions only to go out and purchase prophecies, they may never play it, but heck you get an extra slot for it.
Now you have 9 for merged accounts and chapter 3 is now out.
Ok for people that have factions and chapter 3 they now can have 9 slots.
Those that have all 3 have 4+4+4=12 + 2 bonus slots (for having 2 expansions) =14
those that have only factions + chapter 3 have 9
and those that have Prophecies and chapter 3 have 9 slots.
And keep doing this for each expansion, i think people will be more than please with this.
I think it is a fair solution, and will make all of your current customers happy. This will induce any newcomers to get the older chapters and reward loyalty for those that have been there. I think for newer players the majority will not want to buy the older game.
I am not sure this is a petition, but I am tired of both sides arguing the 4+4=6 argument.
I am not cancelling my factions pre order, and i am not gonna say 4+4=6 is awesome.I understand why they are doing it, but I digress.
This is a simple solution I think Anet needs to consider and i think would make everyone happy and actually net arena net more sales.
SInce currently you get 4 slots for each chapter (4 stand alone prophecies and 4 stand alone factions) and they will be 6 once merged, why not allow 9 when merged, and add +1 for each expansion. Example
4 (prophecies)+4 (factions)= 8 slots +1 bonus for merging accounts that induces people that are factions only to go out and purchase prophecies, they may never play it, but heck you get an extra slot for it.
Now you have 9 for merged accounts and chapter 3 is now out.
Ok for people that have factions and chapter 3 they now can have 9 slots.
Those that have all 3 have 4+4+4=12 + 2 bonus slots (for having 2 expansions) =14
those that have only factions + chapter 3 have 9
and those that have Prophecies and chapter 3 have 9 slots.
And keep doing this for each expansion, i think people will be more than please with this.
I think it is a fair solution, and will make all of your current customers happy. This will induce any newcomers to get the older chapters and reward loyalty for those that have been there. I think for newer players the majority will not want to buy the older game.
I am not sure this is a petition, but I am tired of both sides arguing the 4+4=6 argument.
Mordakai
Sounds awesome... but if Anet won't even give us 4 slots linked, what makes you think they'll give us 5?
And by Chapter 10 people who have all the chapters will have 49 slots (if I'm reading your suggestion correctly).
And by Chapter 10 people who have all the chapters will have 49 slots (if I'm reading your suggestion correctly).
rollntider
yeah....and its a suggestion
yangster
Why do people have to complain so much about this simple thing?
There is no monthly fee so deal with what they give you and be happy.
There is no monthly fee so deal with what they give you and be happy.
wsmcasey
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Wow, I am impressed.
It's funny, after playing a W/Ra in the Preview, I actually thought about scrapping my W/Mo from Prophecy. Right now, I'm stressing trying to get her through all the missions before Factions is released... and why?!? Why not just delete her and start over? After all, I don't even have any Sup Runes, or 15k armor, or any of that... so, thanks for your post, I'm actually considering doing the same thing. (Sorry about the Sup Rune. But, who knows, maybe they'll be more common in Factions.... wishful thinking). |
Inureface
Sometimes you have to wonder, will they even last long enough to chapter 10? For some reason, I just have some serious doubts they'll make it past 4 or 5.
Mordakai
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Why do people have to complain so much about this simple thing?
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So they are unhappy, and as they paid money for this product too, they have a right to their opinion.
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After the deletion I just made a W/Me............. I'm saving my money for factions.
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wsmcasey
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Why do people have to complain so much about this simple thing?
There is no monthly fee so deal with what they give you and be happy. |
When you settle for second best you get second best.
Mordakai
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Sometimes you have to wonder, will they even last long enough to chapter 10? For some reason, I just have some serious doubts they'll make it past 4 or 5.
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I think GW will last 3 years... but I'm guessing Chapter 10 could be a milestone event. Either it will launch GW 2
. All speculation, of course, depending on how much competition Anet faces from other "free" MMORPGs.
wsmcasey
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Ok, this may be a stupid question: but why did you delete your Warrior just to make another... warrior?!?
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The run from ascalon all they way thru the jungle hitting each stop took about an hour. I sat back and watched, surfed the net, ate some ice cream, and chatted with friends online. Multi-tasking at its best!
Mordakai
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I got tired of the name and face, just wanted a change. I'm not growing to attached to this one (hence the cheapo armor from henge of denravi). I'll probably make a new one when factions is available, until then I'm just playing around / killing time.
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Well, thanks for the inspiration anyway... I'll let you know if Mysti Lynn dies heroically or not!
Former Ruling
4+4=6? WTF are these people smoking?
The Equation is:
Game1=4, Game2=2 so Game1+Game2=6.
Game1 lets say..you bought ch1 first. thats your Game1. you got 4 slots did you not?
Well if Factions is your game1, you get 4 slots with it... If its your game2, you get 2 slots with it.
Anyway you go about it, 2 games merged = 6 slots. They are just doing it backwards. They arent getting more than you.
The Equation is:
Game1=4, Game2=2 so Game1+Game2=6.
Game1 lets say..you bought ch1 first. thats your Game1. you got 4 slots did you not?
Well if Factions is your game1, you get 4 slots with it... If its your game2, you get 2 slots with it.
Anyway you go about it, 2 games merged = 6 slots. They are just doing it backwards. They arent getting more than you.
rollntider
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4+4=6? WTF are these people smoking?
The Equation is: Game1=4, Game2=2 so Game1+Game2=6. Game1 lets say..you bought ch1 first. thats your Game1. you got 4 slots did you not? Well if Factions is your game1, you get 4 slots with it... If its your game2, you get 2 slots with it. Anyway you go about it, 2 games merged = 6 slots. They are just doing it backwards. They arent getting more than you. |
Gli
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i am not gonna say 4+4=6 is awesome.I understand why they are doing it, but I digress.
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Kattox1
lol i barely use my 4 slots now so im happy with 6 altogether.
I've got a friend who says he wont buy guild wars because theres TOO MANY character slots and he wants to focus on only one... makes you think doesnt it you selfish people. XD
I've got a friend who says he wont buy guild wars because theres TOO MANY character slots and he wants to focus on only one... makes you think doesnt it you selfish people. XD
heavy metal rules
wtf another one of these threads again....it's officially beer time now...
Gli
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lol i barely use my 4 slots now so im happy with 6 altogether.
I've got a friend who says he wont buy guild wars because theres TOO MANY character slots and he wants to focus on only one... makes you think doesnt it you selfish people. XD |
Sunai
I have to wonder why the hell you need so many character slots every campaign. 30 characters ftw?
Mandy Memory
Thats way too many slots...I dont even wanna ever scroll through those.
Imagine trying to play your 49th character.
Imagine trying to play your 49th character.
neoteo
mmm , what if
4 slots for 1 year of game
2 slots for each 6 months
4 slots for 1 year of game
2 slots for each 6 months
Mordakai
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mmm , what if
4 slots for 1 year of game 2 slots for each 6 months |
lyra_song
I would like to hear more comparisons with MMORPG expansions, as to how they handled additional slots or lack of additional slots.
neoteo
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Uh, isn't that what we have now?
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Mordakai
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I would like to hear more comparisons with MMORPG expansions, as to how they handled additional slots or lack of additional slots.
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Of course, other MMORPGs have servers, which I don't really understand, but apparently you can have x Characters on y Servers. So you have xy slots. Course, I have no idea if you can trade items between servers, or how this works practically...
neoteo
in WOW , nop you cant trade anything , not even chat , cant add to friends list , nothing , if its another server , its like it doesnt exist .. they say they are working on it , but i dont believe they will .
Mordakai
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in WOW , nop you cant trade anything , not even chat , cant add to friends list , nothing , if its another server , its like it doesnt exist .. they say they are working on it , but i dont believe they will .
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neoteo
im not sure about that , i did a 14 day trial , but only got in 3 times :P
made a char in a diferent server from my friend , it was hard to find out that i wasnt speling is name roung , i was in another server
made a char in a diferent server from my friend , it was hard to find out that i wasnt speling is name roung , i was in another server