Note for all survivor title seekers

zakaria

zakaria

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Survivor
Granted to a character who has reached 140600 experience points without dying.
Seekers of this title must stop joining PUGs parties, they leave parties in the middle of quests or missions when they sense any danger of getting killed.You are ruinning parties and we have to start from beginning.

Please all seekers of this title play with henchmen not with us.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

I'm not surprised at all that this is happening. Heck it happend once in a while even before titles were in because people wanted to keep their "No deaths" streak going.

Quite sad really.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Wish they'd just remove this title and get it over with, lame how to get it you need to start a new character for a start.

kade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Currently residing in ToA dis 1

Mo/

must you start a new character, or just have a streak of 140k exp with no deaths?

Diluant De Peau

Diluant De Peau

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Shadow of Lust [SoL]

W/N

It is a one time shot...like a hardcore mode...you die once on a new char before hitting that xp...and the title is lost...

I admit I was so close to it...and died due to hench stupidity...as in the hench agroed a group while I was recharging skills and boom couldnt do anything but die...not even time to log out...

I wouldnt play with a pug group cause I wouldnt want to play cautious with others around...but with the hench...they really mess you up now...and I can see why people want real folks to count on...

Daemon Dremora

Daemon Dremora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Millington, TN

Seele Erntemaschine {Nein}

my assassin was up to about 50k exp and then boom died cause i stopped paying attention to my life and i died.....i was so sad...but i stayed with the group and finished the mish...leaving never even crossed my mind. i just dealt with it. so yeah all yo ppl leaving parties because of this need to stop. it is really annoying.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

I do have a fear of players of this phrase "When the going get's tough.. the tough get going" and this title.

I will not exclude anyone from a pt (if I'm a leader) but... fear that this will cause people who advertise going for this title... to get a bad rap pretty quick, just like grabbing an War/Monk and in the back of your mind, hope there not going to shout at the monk and aggro too much until you see them play for a bit.

Also not the explorer title and the no death title may never both get to 100%, you die in the "training" area aka 1.x% of the cantha map..

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Why don't they make this a No Death Streak? I've got 4 characters, all with deaths already, so that's 4 characters already that can't get this title.. That's pretty lame.

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

Well i for one wont be inviting any *survivor* into my PuGs.

I think theres good in this as well, it helps me to aviod rage quitters in PuG groups but i feel sorry for those who are truely skilled in the game being labelled together with rage quiters.

Edit for grammer

BlueNovember

BlueNovember

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTS GW2 items for Zkey

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thallandor
Edit for grammer
...

Anyway, I was under the impression that the title is achieved from just getting the XP in a 0 death streak, and not necesarrily in one instance/session. Seems to make more sense anyway.

SylverDragon

SylverDragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cheshire, UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by EternalTempest
Also not the explorer title and the no death title may never both get to 100%, you die in the "training" area aka 1.x% of the cantha map..
If you mean when instructor Ng has you all die to demonstrate the res shrine, that doesn't show up on /deaths.

zerohaste

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Is this really going from 0 to 140,600 exp without dying, or is it simply gaining 140,600 exp without dying? There's a big difference between the two. I find it hard to believe that it would be the first one.

Either way, I question the need for a title like this. I'm sure it'll cause far too much harm.

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

I haven't fought in Cantha with anything but henchies. And I didn't even know about 'Survivor'. OH, and I have died plenty of times.

Yes, this will result in many 'survivorquit' instances.

Swinging Fists

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by SylverDragon
If you mean when instructor Ng has you all die to demonstrate the res shrine, that doesn't show up on /deaths.
I can confirm that that death is NOT counted. I went through that, died, and still have 0 deaths.

sgtclarity

sgtclarity

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

I Can Break These C[uffs]

W/

This title is way too OCD for me.

kade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Currently residing in ToA dis 1

Mo/

can anyone confirm whether its a streak or 0-140k?

Aki Soyokaze

Aki Soyokaze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Vancouver

It's going from 0-140k without dying. The level after that is 587,500k without dying.

jean1190

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

Enuk

Mo/Me

A friend of me got his survivor title from 200kxp without dying... And he was already level 20.

Tortoise

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Daunting Tempest

Mo/

1. You have one shot at getting hit. It's not a winstreak. It's playing with 0 deaths. If you die once you will never be able to get it. The title started showing up at 10k xp on my new ranger but didn't even start to show on my warrior after 40k xp. Can't remember who, but someone claimed they had farmed 80k xp to check it and there was no sign of the title yet.

2. My new Canthan ranger is a proud survivor (360k xp right now) and though I am playing more carefull then I would normally play I would never leave a party, ever. I'm not even keen on mapping out when I'm using henchies... I've encountered my share of near-party wipes but so far I've had only one occasion in which I was forced to map out (doing Seabed with henchies, they all died one by one and even my res sig couldn't save the day).
I can see how this title might affect pugs and although I haven't had the misery of people 'zoning out' this is a potential threath indeed. How bad it is right now, I cannot tell.

3. Whether or not someone is showing his 'survivor' title is not a reliable source of info whether they will leave when the going gets though. The chicken-survivors can act just as every other pugger, not warn you about their aspiration to be a survivor and STILL leave you hanging. Creating a decent PUG is still better done through talking then through looking at titles.

4. Getting a survivor title is dead easy. If you do all the quests on Shing Jae you're already lvl 18. A couple of skill caps and a couple of quests later and you have the title. Getting to 'indomitable survivor' (580k xp) is something worth noting. Survivor is nothing really.

5. As a survivor I'm not keen on joining pugs. Not because I would map out but mainly because I wouldn't wanna be surprised by a bad monk myself. The healer henchies might not be very good, at least I know what they're capable off and more importantly: what they're not capable off.

6. Don't diss all survivors though. Surviving is not easy and requires you to pay attention all the time. If you're unable to pull properly, to manage your aggro, identify the right targets, keep an eye out on your monks and know just what your party can and cannot take you'll fail sooner or later, whether you map out or not.

Yuo Can Do It!

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tortoise
1. You have one shot at getting hit. It's not a winstreak. It's playing with 0 deaths. If you die once you will never be able to get it. The title started showing up at 10k xp on my new ranger but didn't even start to show on my warrior after 40k xp. Can't remember who, but someone claimed they had farmed 80k xp to check it and there was no sign of the title yet.

2. My new Canthan ranger is a proud survivor (360k xp right now) and though I am playing more carefull then I would normally play I would never leave a party, ever. I'm not even keen on mapping out when I'm using henchies... I've encountered my share of near-party wipes but so far I've had only one occasion in which I was forced to map out (doing Seabed with henchies, they all died one by one and even my res sig couldn't save the day).
I can see how this title might affect pugs and although I haven't had the misery of people 'zoning out' this is a potential threath indeed. How bad it is right now, I cannot tell.

3. Whether or not someone is showing his 'survivor' title is not a reliable source of info whether they will leave when the going gets though. The chicken-survivors can act just as every other pugger, not warn you about their aspiration to be a survivor and STILL leave you hanging. Creating a decent PUG is still better done through talking then through looking at titles.

4. Getting a survivor title is dead easy. If you do all the quests on Shing Jae you're already lvl 18. A couple of skill caps and a couple of quests later and you have the title. Getting to 'indomitable survivor' (580k xp) is something worth noting. Survivor is nothing really.

5. As a survivor I'm not keen on joining pugs. Not because I would map out but mainly because I wouldn't wanna be surprised by a bad monk myself. The healer henchies might not be very good, at least I know what they're capable off and more importantly: what they're not capable off.

6. Don't diss all survivors though. Surviving is not easy and requires you to pay attention all the time. If you're unable to pull properly, to manage your aggro, identify the right targets, keep an eye out on your monks and know just what your party can and cannot take you'll fail sooner or later, whether you map out or not.
Actually, Survivor IS something if you try to get it in Tyria. I'm sure it's easy to get in Cantha with all this talk of level 15+ by the time you're out of the noob area. But in the original campaign, it is hard.

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

W/

Well guess its back to carefully modifing my hp into a 55 with a new character then.

Tobias Funke

Tobias Funke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Following of Xanthar

Me/N

My .02

If have to go back to town to prevent dying and loosing your streak, you don't deserve the title to begin with.

That is all.

Akhilleus

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxiemonster
Why don't they make this a No Death Streak? I've got 4 characters, all with deaths already, so that's 4 characters already that can't get this title.. That's pretty lame.
same...
another one of the titles that screws over the people who've had the game for a while.

Kerrick??

Kerrick??

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobias Funke
If have to go back to town to prevent dying and loosing your streak, you don't deserve the title to begin with.
quoted for truth.

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

Go to tyria and solo a farming area that you know you won't die from easily and repeat.

xiaotsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Doomlore Shrine

Just Us Gamers [JUGs]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuo Can Do It!
Actually, Survivor IS something if you try to get it in Tyria. I'm sure it's easy to get in Cantha with all this talk of level 15+ by the time you're out of the noob area. But in the original campaign, it is hard.
Considering the fact that every monster on the main island in Cantha is level 20+, it pretty much requires you to be 15+(my assassin was 17 from doing all the starter island quests, and only those) by the time you get to the main island. It's still complicated to get Survivor in Cantha...I was going for it, almost had it, and boom, someone aggro'd too many groups and they chased me down Why must they always target the monk? Lol, oh well, it's not like it's important, if I couldn't survive, I don't need the title


EDIT: Those of you complaining about having to start a new character: You, too, don't deserve the title, if you did, you would still have 0 deaths from the beginning of the game, because you would probably have ragequit a few times yourself. No offense to anyone, of course.

master_ranger_matt

master_ranger_matt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Salt Lake City, Utah.... no im not mormon

Radicals Against Tyrants [RAT]

R/Me

This title just plain sucks. You either have people who leave or won't do anything for fear of actually taking damage, and then you have the people who get power leveled and ran everywhere as soons as possible, neither of which seems fair (at least to me anyway).

salaboB

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by xiaotsu
EDIT: Those of you complaining about having to start a new character: You, too, don't deserve the title, if you did, you would still have 0 deaths from the beginning of the game, because you would probably have ragequit a few times yourself. No offense to anyone, of course.
Or they weren't trying hard to earn a title, and thus didn't bother being as careful as they would have otherwise been.

Oh, and PvP deaths count too. Better not step into an arena...

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by master_ranger_matt
This title just plain sucks. You either have people who leave or won't do anything for fear of actually taking damage, and then you have the people who get power leveled and ran everywhere as soons as possible, neither of which seems fair (at least to me anyway).
... or people that did all the quests and missions.

I got my Survivor on my mesmer from doing all the Shing Jea and mainland quests, at 160k now, and still at 0 deaths. Moved over to Tyria and running the missions there with PUGs. Maybe I play a little more carefully, but I wouldn't quit midgame. It's really a learning experience, makes me add more defensive skills to my build, and it doesn't harm the team to have a careful player with Rebirth to rez them all if need be.

As someone said, getting Survivor isn't much nothing for Canthan charas atleast. You can get it easy doing the fedex quests, and henching the shing jea missions, just to be sure

Prolly my tries at Indominable Survior stop at Vizunah Square tho.

edit: before Vizunah Square, stupid Mayhem in the Market, took few wrong turns

studentochaos

studentochaos

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Seeking atm

N/

I have my ranger going for Indominable and I am at 250k now. The first title wasn't too hard but after this point it is not so easy. However, I only hench it because while I have yet to need to map out (including Vitznah Square), I reserve the right to do so if I must.

The real problem is the bosses. Double damage from an AOE puts so much hurt down that I have to be very careful. Double self heals and defensive stancing for sure....

Vaga

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Pointless title anyway, people only look for titles for PvP experience.

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vaga
Pointless title anyway, people only look for titles for PvP experience.
wth do titles as 'Drunkard', 'Explorer/Trailblazer/Grand Master Cartographer', 'Protector of Tyria/Cantha', 'Seeker of Wisdom', 'Skill Hunter' etc etc have to do with PvP? Are all those titles pointless as well?

Everyone doesn't PvP anyways c.c

iShiver

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/Mo

I think rage quiters would be a big problem. *smile* They should get points to the 'moody stage in life' title, especially if they include a combination of rudeness or shortened words before quitting, like the one I saw last night.


I'd like to see a good citizen/friends title where other people can add votes to your character. You have 1 vote to give to every other GW account (maybe character??), only one chance to vote for that account/char to reduce the abuse of the ragers with multiple accounts/chars. Theres no vote deduction.

So the more different ppl you team up with and make friends (not bitch moan etc) the more points you could amass.

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by iShiver
I think rage quiters would be a big problem. *smile* They should get points to the 'moody stage in life' title, especially if they include a combination of rudeness or shortened words before quitting, like the one I saw last night.


I'd like to see a good citizen/friends title where other people can add votes to your character. You have 1 vote to give to every other GW account (maybe character??), only one chance to vote for that account/char to reduce the abuse of the ragers with multiple accounts/chars. Theres no vote deduction.

So the more different ppl you team up with and make friends (not bitch moan etc) the more points you could amass.
Nice idea, but it would be abused to something very unreliable, guildies giving ++ votes etc etc

Artisan

Artisan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Sunset City

Ark Royal [ARK]

A/R

I'd like to see a 'jackass' title myself...

Mr Slashalot

Mr Slashalot

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Check out my Assassin,
Proving they dont all die in seconds just people dont know how to use em



you wont see to many assassins with it

Tobias Funke

Tobias Funke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Following of Xanthar

Me/N

Should be a Leeroy Jenkins title for how many times you got your team wiped out.

-Old 3FL-

-Old 3FL-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

Western Australia.

Crystal Mountain [CM]

W/

i reckon titles and rank should be removed
they make players idiots ... :-/

Miakoda

Miakoda

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Me/

In Cantha it is extremely easy to get the first tier, it has no correlation to how skilled a player is.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Slashalot
you wont see to many assassins with it
yup